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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: earlier thread, my hypothesis was that mr. nist wanted some dope and literally the only way he could conceive of getting it was to... make it
asciilifeform: wanted in the sense of, to eat, personally
asciilifeform: i have no idea if this makes sense to anyone but me
decimation: it strikes me as more likely that it was some lowbrow schmoe with a gand scheme
asciilifeform: if i needed dope for something, would be just as stuck as if needed plutonium
asciilifeform: it literally does not exist in my universe
decimation: you have the mental capacity & resourcefulness to make some
decimation: not that it would be a terribly wise course
asciilifeform: mr nist-dope exploded even with pro equipment
asciilifeform: a not-uncommon situation in perfectly legit organic chem, incidentally
asciilifeform: just ask uncle al
asciilifeform: (who once lost, iirc, half of his skin)
decimation: my former high school chemistry teacher complained about chemical engineers; they seemed to think nothing of boiling hexane
asciilifeform: how do you intend to remove it from solution without boiling ?
phf: i assumed same thing as asciilifeform, because sop in soviet union. my uncle died like that, botched centrifugation to extract alcohol from whatever was available, at his lab
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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in the near east, it is - i am told - traditional to blow oneself up with peroxide of acetone
asciilifeform: (would-be 't3rr0r1st35111!!!')
BingoBoingo: Well Hydrogen peroxide can be stable in some solutions. More organic peroxides... less so
phf: (or, for the curious, expected ethanol, but got methanol)
asciilifeform: ^ traditional 'prohibition' death
asciilifeform: in usa also
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BingoBoingo: <phf> (or, for the curious, expected ethanol, but got methanol) << This is why I greatly prefer distilled spirits to beer
decimation: hydrofloric acid is pretty nasty too
BingoBoingo: This is La Monde! Where do you expect anything that isn't nasty!
hanbot: le monde.
BingoBoingo: Eh, only 600 ml of vodka in tonight so far. Got the sads over Judge rotation.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Apparently that article has drm preventing my access
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asciilifeform: ^ often incorrectly attributed, in nth-generation derp sources, to methanol
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: AH, proto-glyphosate
mircea_popescu: << wow srsly ? never heard of this one. how much ?
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 02:24:55; BingoBoingo: cazalla: Yeah. Dude ran to. Exit scam.
mircea_popescu: i recall back when he was promoting it, it having a very distinct bitcoin-insanity vibe to it.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll have to dig up what the minecraft casino was called. Forums figured ~150 BTC. Happened if I correctly recall right around TradeFartress deflated
BingoBoingo: BitVegas it was called
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 04:03:36; asciilifeform: i have no idea if this makes sense to anyone but me
BingoBoingo: If university lab offers glass and hard to find reagents why not?
BingoBoingo: It reportedly takes serious glass to make serious glass
assbot: France to reduce reliance on nuclear power - News - NHK WORLD - English ... ( )
asciilifeform: 'They said it would be unrealistic to close more than 20 of 58 reactors now in operation in the next 10 years. The legislation also includes a target of reducing the country's greenhouse gas emissions by 40 percent by 2030, compared to the level in 1990. The new law aims to eventually halve France's energy consumption by 2050 from the 2012 level.'
asciilifeform: ^ entirely realistic. france --> morocco.
asciilifeform: as was the plan.
decimation: wtf why stop using nuke plants
asciilifeform: because what do bedouins need mains current for
decimation: talk about decline
BingoBoingo: lol, small difference between studio apartments with gypsum drywall and mudhuts which happen to have a lot of gypsum in the walls. Just normally the huts are more durable
asciilifeform: 'The senior officers of the GRU have a particular dislike of Western nuclear power stations, which reduce the West's dependence on imported oil (including Soviet oil) and make it stronger and more independent. They are one of spetsnaz's, most important targets.'
decimation: lol turns out they didn't need to blow them up
asciilifeform: 'useful idiots' in europe are the gift that will keep on giving for a century+.
asciilifeform: of course, it was rather like bio warfare, nobody ever found a way to keep them out of ru proper
asciilifeform: wind blew'em back in
decimation: heh yeah it's true
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> wind blew'em back in << Ru shares the problem with US east coast
BingoBoingo: Can't avoid shitting where it eats
decimation: asciilifeform: also the germans did something similar
decimation: after the fukoshima thing showed how the worst-case scenario wasn't particularly dangerous
decimation: of course, it's always 'because reasons' - certainly it's not because in their heart of hearts they wish to destroy themselves
asciilifeform: jp, if you recall, played with 'cancel the nuke plants' until they got tired of breathing diesel smoke and didn't feel like going back to the 17th c. quite yet
BingoBoingo: decimation: I beg to differ
BingoBoingo: Problem is stupid nuclear plants that can't sustain cooling... Like my laptop
decimation: sure they can. designs exist today that would self-quench under any disaster, without power
decimation: fukoshima was a mediocere design in an idiotic location
decimation: and operated by idiots
asciilifeform: designs exist that fit in a cellar ('pellet system')
asciilifeform: could cost what a truck costs
decimation: yeah, free-floating uranium pellets
BingoBoingo: decimation: Yes self quenching and sane designs exist, but BUILT where?
asciilifeform: 'But It Would Be Wrong!' (tm) (r) (uncle al)
decimation: BingoBoingo: of course, nobody builds new designs because reasons
decimation: even though they have turned out to be extremely profitable
BingoBoingo: Calloway County Missouri has comparatively new reactor. Shut down and restarted because stupid all around. Even in middle of nowhere.
decimation: even 40 miles from ascii is a nuke plant that has been relicensed for another 20 years as I recall
BingoBoingo: <decimation> even though they have turned out to be extremely profitable << Fiat arbitrarity prevents this
BingoBoingo: Gotta preserve the existing ones by population centers
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: usg is specifically opposed to inexpensive, simple, reliable fission
asciilifeform: the costly, finicky, occasionally problematic kind - they're fine with
decimation: it's not hard to do the math and realize that a few hundred kg of U is way cheaper to supply in the long run than massive quantities of coal
BingoBoingo: Eventually USG will fall and finally I can ssemble motorcarriage I like
asciilifeform: (can you say 'petrodollar', kidz?)
decimation: the coal lobby hates this idea, for one
decimation: not just oil but also coal
decimation: major political muscle there
asciilifeform: it isn't even about selling coal
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (can you say 'petrodollar', kidz?) << Shame when everythig is forced to move to corn plastics
decimation: plus, coal plant shits more radiation everywhere in the form of C14
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it isn't even about selling coal << During my two years at Mizzou they installed a Wood Chip furnace at their power plant.
decimation: asciilifeform: that's the 'bootleggers' to the 'baptists' - the enviro-nuts
asciilifeform: usg doesn't like the idea of plebes with megawatt in their pocket, that's all
decimation: asciilifeform: I was pondering this the other day with the supposed 'tax-free' retirment scheme called Roth
decimation: you can gift your tax free account to your spouse when you die, but if your kids get it they must begin drawing down
asciilifeform: afaik all such chumpatrons are approximately the same
asciilifeform: 'jam tomorrow'
decimation: yes but this particular feature is interesting: why would usg want to ensure that the children fail to gain 'independent wealth'
BingoBoingo completely weaned from butane lighters nao
asciilifeform: because that's for the aristo children
decimation: of course, the answer is the same as your powerplant theory: usg-unapproved power centers must be strangled in the crib
decimation: some pleb saving and endowing a fortune outside of usg's control is unthinkable
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decimation: the mind boggles at the various little staffers dreaming of ways to ensure the survival of the present usg regime even long beyond their own retirements
asciilifeform: there is no reason for them to have to think of it. it is baked into the machine
asciilifeform: 'we do x because the 3-ring binder says: do x'
asciilifeform: and it will read 'x', not 'y', because if it were 'y', and 'y' is, e.g., 'disinherit john brennan rothchild' someone might Have Problems
asciilifeform: i.e. Accident4lly!11 nailgun himself to his pillow in bed, while in a single-car crash, of natural causes.
decimation: asciilifeform: the amusing thing is that lord rothchild need not even make his position clear, it's already imagined and taken into account
BingoBoingo: Naptha, fuel of the future
asciilifeform: decimation: naturally. a 'lord' who has to actually dictate every 'x' is no lord, but 'floor boss'
decimation: indeed once he has to show up and explain it the gig is up
asciilifeform: 'the spartan speaks with his' nailgun.
BingoBoingo: EARTH, WATER? You will find plenty down THERE!
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mod6: ;;later tell jurov nevermind, i reformatted it a bit and resent, went through this time.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
decimation: for instance, this 1974 film showing street scenes in Rhodesia, where you can see how the black folks were being oppressed
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BingoBoingo wonders what it says of Anglo society that Dante is exalted while William Blake is mentioned only in horror tales.
asciilifeform: wasn't there a link just earlier today re: dante banned
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BingoBoingo: Yes, I dropped it.
BingoBoingo: But when was Blake ever allowed
decimation: < also amusing, rhodesian gentleman discovers bat guano deposits on his land, oppresses black folk into helping him dig it out
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BingoBoingo: 62249, Highland, Illinois
BingoBoingo: sorry last msg for prison bitch
decimation: BingoBoingo: surely prisoners have no internet
BingoBoingo: Shhhh... I got dreamz
BingoBoingo: Madness? THIS IS SPARTA (or about 30 miles away from Sparta, IL)
decimation: < here's the british oppressing rhodesia with hydroelectricity
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pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes merci !
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform nice finds. yes, treblinka wasn't -only- rebellion, but 0.5% of jews killed in 'shoah' fought back in the way depicted in those films. not great.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: but if i say that 0.5% is too small, what's a better proportion ? double digits doesn't sound unreasonable.
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pete_dushenski: ;;later tell bitstein toda raba !
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell Adlai your transliteration broke my (online) translation skillz !
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: << omggtfo 'Gherush 92' belongs in the 7th circle
BingoBoingo: We really need to flatten the circles a bit
pete_dushenski: it just so happens that i just finished alberto manguel's 'curiousity', which is in essence a long-winded essay about la commedia.
pete_dushenski: can't say i'd really recommend manguel's book, it was a bit too much about him being old and his life and times living all over the world
pete_dushenski: but at least the guy's well read, there's no denying that
pete_dushenski: the breadth and depth of his cross-references between la commedia and the entire western cannon is not to be downplayed
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pete_dushenski: never hit publish right before going for a spot of exercise, all the little holes and parallels reveal themselves through physical motion !
pete_dushenski: the parallel between italy and jamaica struck me this time round.
pete_dushenski: "Italy is well on its way to answering the corollary of the question answered by Jamaica, namely “What would Africa look like if we gave it a whack-load of European infrastructure and walked away ?” and therefore answers the question “What would European infrastructure look like if we gave it a whack-load of Africans and walked away ?“"
pete_dushenski: it's almost poetic.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: The way you've been qntra'ing this month you jsut might beat me in word count. Try
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: who me ? dude, you're on an absolute tear !
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Yes you.
cazalla: BingoBoingo is the eternal qntra salesman
pete_dushenski: i dun think the rest of us combined will beat bb
BingoBoingo: If qntra is a serious endeavour, one month someone with their name not on the contract will get high wordcount score.
pete_dushenski: cazalla: the easiest sell is when you believe in the product.
BingoBoingo: ^truth
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You in the last day or so been following my legal odessy?
pete_dushenski: just that you had court today ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: No what happened today. What happened earlier this week. When alleged "victim" of thing allgeded to be "crime" got a pussy pass on a felony. Because Dallas Cook fake libertarian only runs to the police for every problem he has.
assbot: Prosecutor declines to issue charges against Belleville city clerk | Belleville News-Democrat ... ( )
BingoBoingo: Mr. White Trash I am alleged to have disordere, while the elected clerk of the village of Belleville did indeed get a pass on maliciously committing a politically motivated felony on one of his elderly constituents.
pete_dushenski: so you're not in the plumbook, and this is news ?
pete_dushenski: what, like u.s. law treats all men as equal ?
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 00:11:06; mircea_popescu: and most importantly, where is the fraud, racketeering and criminal organisation/conspiuracy indictment for the us marshall in question ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Nah my misdemeanor was continued because judge roll over.
BingoBoingo: And I lack knowledge of whether misdemeanor alleged of me was by me or not. By city clerk gets to avoid prosecution for felony direction of police violence?
BingoBoingo: What is plumbook?
pete_dushenski: !s plumbook
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assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 14:52:06; asciilifeform: << for utter n00bz
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: If you want to write a piece on the wickedness in Belleville... I'd have to let cazalla approve or deny that
pete_dushenski: mebbe in the morning, depending what time i crawl outta bed.
pete_dushenski: can't say i'm super drawn to the belleville scandal though, not my usual cup of qntratea
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You have all the time in the world. God only knows the prosecution case has had the same.
BingoBoingo: If nothing else pete_dushenski Maybe you will find a way to shit on 'Murica from your safe space in the hat
BingoBoingo: Also 4 grams of blackpowder would let you throw a small enough rock from Belleville to Ferguson
pete_dushenski: skipping through my last few qntra articles, seems like 'cybercrime' and fiat finance are my go-tos. who knew ?
BingoBoingo: Or as us in the Country like to call Belleville, East-East-St Louis
BingoBoingo: I know right?
BingoBoingo: Literally anything that's shitty is shitty because of fiat
pete_dushenski: literally eh ? how about ugly chicks ? aren't they ugly regardless of fiat ? does fiat make them even more ghastly to behold ?
pete_dushenski: if so, how ?
BingoBoingo: Ugly chicks are ugly because of transcendant aesthetics.
BingoBoingo: There are truths that are rooted beyond x and y pulling their cocks
BingoBoingo: !s jennifer
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BingoBoingo: Jennifer Richmond is a sexy girl is prison because the dry old she dinosaur on her case couldn't accept prostitution without victimization
pete_dushenski: so fiat teaches her victimisation, which makes her more unattractive ?
pete_dushenski: not a bad theory.
BingoBoingo: Whether it is biological drive or aethetics that transcend mundane understanding, Frau Richmond has an entirely aesthetic appeal lacks
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Fiat teaches the negress with butts on both sides is her equal. That is the problem.
pete_dushenski: $amzn up 17% after-hours on an announcement of... profit !
pete_dushenski: losses were expected, +$0.19 per share posted.
BingoBoingo: Dat timing
pete_dushenski: and speaking of their successful hosting services...
BingoBoingo: If nothing else though that movement has to suggest Dollars are going to balloon
pete_dushenski: 'fiscal year 2014 audit of treasury's compliance with the federal information security management act for its intelligence systems'
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: and that they're looking for even the faintest pulse as a SIGN OF LIFE
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: To be fair apparently AWS revenue is up after a steep drop last year?
pete_dushenski: "The report, prepared in September 2014, gave no indication the foreign intelligence network had been hacked. But auditors found up to 29 percent of Treasury's devices connected to the intelligence network did not meet federal cybersecurity standards." << i can't imagine these standards include 'avoid winblows'
BingoBoingo: No way they could
pete_dushenski: so what good are they you ask ? the theatre of security, my boy.
BingoBoingo: Personally I hope that OpenBSD treats MicroShaft with the same Courtesy they did MP after the check clears
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: probably not. which is why its lulzy
BingoBoingo wonders when ascii or other will perfect the peel money away from drunk Bingo Bot
pete_dushenski: "Following the blueprint of Fiat's marriage with Chrysler and a New York listing of the merged entity last year, FCA will create a Dutch-registered holding company for Ferrari and list its shares on Wall Street, according to the filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission." << inb4 ferraris are slapped with 'made in united states of africa' plaques
pete_dushenski: make that stickers.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: peel money ?
pete_dushenski: like for strippers ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Yeah. Me+Money+StripClub is the one of the fastest reallocation of resources capitalism has blessed us with
BingoBoingo: But asciilifeform Pointed out that a sufficient bot might be able to accomplish that feat.
pete_dushenski: or naphex's site
pete_dushenski: xotika or what was it.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Nah, takes a special kinda girl to peel my money away on a cam
davout: ohai all
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski is up late
BingoBoingo: Hai davout
pete_dushenski: bonjour !
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: 12:30am ain't that bad...
BingoBoingo hopes pete_dushenski takes the Belleville beat because that would be so many lulz. East-east St Louis fancies itself the Toronto of the Middle West...
BingoBoingo: Why actual Toronto is not sufficiently Middle or Western I dunno
pete_dushenski: we call toronto 'eastern canada' but they call themselves 'central'
thestringpuller: lol Missouri
thestringpuller: so much farm land
pete_dushenski: to ontarionians, 'eastern canada' is nubbins`-land
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Nah, east side of the river this time
pete_dushenski: and from here, twodogs might as well be in europe. it's another world.
thestringpuller: i thought nubbins` lived in trailer park boys land...
thestringpuller: nova scotia?
BingoBoingo: I may be in the minority anywhere else, but... Ant Man better than Avengers 2. Heist Movie with occasional distracting external references.
thestringpuller: ^^^ totally with you on that
thestringpuller: Also lots of references to Hank Pym beating his wife Wasp.
thestringpuller: they bastardized Darren Cross, but his comic story line would have been too dark for kids.
BingoBoingo also thought Edward Norton Hulk, or Fight Club Electric Boogaloo was best Phase 1 Marvel flick
thestringpuller: Better than Eric Bana's Hulk.
pete_dushenski: "Toronto taxi drivers are launching a class-action lawsuit against ride-sharing company Uber Technologies Inc [UBER.UL], seeking more than C$400 million ($307.27 million) in damages and an injunction to stop it operating in the Canadian province of Ontario." << speaking of those enlightened folk in toronto.
pete_dushenski: and yes, you'll also note that cad has been pummelled into the ground in the last 12 months.
pete_dushenski: was at or near parity for better part of a decade.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I remember when CAD passed USD
cazalla: BingoBoingo, ya get all duke nukem' up in the club.. "shake it baby"
BingoBoingo: cazalla: It's all about T-Swift now. Shake it off
cazalla: <<< ya know i couldn't do that much these days
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 04:16:11; BingoBoingo: Eh, only 600 ml of vodka in tonight so far. Got the sads over Judge rotation.
cazalla: drinking is sorta like weight training.. miss a couple weeks and you lose all those gains
BingoBoingo: It really is. My liver is Swoledamort
davout: looks like -assets hasn't changed that much during my absence :D
BingoBoingo: Why would it?
cazalla: figured it for a bad photoshop at first
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 06:34:27; BingoBoingo: 'Murican ingenuity
BingoBoingo: cazalla: No, real
cazalla: <<< his old stuff, and by that i mean his old stuff on australian tv before he was in movies is preddy gud for a laugh, but ya sorta need to grasp the context which is difficult for americans
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 06:44:49; thestringpuller: Better than Eric Bana's Hulk.
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BingoBoingo: Another problem with Avengers 2, Andy Serkis plays a man and not a CGI monster
cazalla: actually, that isn't even funny, seemed to be back in the 90s though
BingoBoingo: Still WTF director makes James Spader the CGI monster and Andy Serkis th human
cazalla: dunno why ya bother BingoBoingo, the shit they put out isn't even worth pirating these days, you'd have to pay me to watch
BingoBoingo: One has to catalogue the kicks
BingoBoingo: I mean occasionally there is a decent action scene
BingoBoingo: Like Iron Man vs. Tyler Durden
cazalla: marvel, DC etc etc never big here and i've never watched any of these types of movies, saw an old x-men from maybe 10-15 years ago nfi which one though
BingoBoingo: Oh, so you are just a Homer who likes Hugh Jackman for being an Aussie
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 07:23:14; BingoBoingo: Why would it?
cazalla: nah, can't say i like him as an actor
BingoBoingo: davout HRE and ruler of all the Frogophones, of course we would pause the world for you
davout: BingoBoingo: :3
davout: what's HRE ?
cazalla: one of my fav australian movies is Sirens on account.. titties when like 13
BingoBoingo: davout: Holy Roman, or I guess more recently Ramadan, Emperor. You know like Chuckles I
cazalla: imagine this shit on vhs.. kids today with their 4k streaming porn don't know what they missed
BingoBoingo: cazalla: If you have to watch a marvel movie though, at least Ant man is a better heist movie than new oceans 11. Just no where near as good as Con Air
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cazalla: funny you mention con-air.. i saw that one in cinema and still remember asking myself why they would send a man to jail for defending his wife and kid
cazalla: "that doesn't make sense"
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Because pussy pass 'Murica
BingoBoingo: Saved his family from a strong black woman
BingoBoingo: "Put the bunny, back in the box..." -Cameron Poe
BingoBoingo: "Why couldn't you put the bunny back in the box?" -Cameron Poe
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cazalla: rooshv is a bit of a numbnuts
BingoBoingo: He is, but still the lawgz going viral?
BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1
BingoBoingo: !up Duffer_
cazalla: can't imagine doing this fast seduction/ladder theory/red pill/whatever iteration it is up to shit in the age of tindere
cazalla: back in my day ya had to get the girl's number somehow, was none of this app matching shit
BingoBoingo: If you can think yourself black, you can be black
cazalla: my thinking was always.. why go for the 9's when you are assured to take home a 5-7
cazalla: 21 year old pussy slaying cazalla
cazalla: 33 year old cazalla dont slay shit lol
BingoBoingo: cazalla: You just as MP links suggest, imagine you are the BBC you want to be.
cazalla: who's got the time or energy
BingoBoingo: It's a sport. Like baseball ro waterboarding.
cazalla: too much sambuca
cazalla: thinking wtf is ro (romanian) waterboarding
BingoBoingo: Sorry, "or"
cazalla: anyway who wants to chase girls in their 30s
cazalla: that is for teens and guys in their 20s because they have fuck all to offer
cazalla: if i were to get back in that game, easier just to wave some money and get to it
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cazalla: maybe i need some joe rogan supplementation or something
BingoBoingo: I still got a few months before I hit 30
cazalla: i think it is the having kids that makes you all soft tbh
cazalla: trying to make another atm and i just.. i can't even lol
cazalla: gotta get back on the old nag tmw for another go
cazalla: makes me all soft i mean not you all, maybe freudian slip there lol
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cazalla: soft is having 1/4 of a 700ml bottle of sambuca and thinking of going to bed at 7pm heh
BingoBoingo: 3:40 am here
cazalla: meh i didn't get much sleep last night, son had 18 month mmrv yesterday and has been moody since
BingoBoingo saw hearing continued
cazalla: OBJECTION!
cazalla: did ya get all pheonix wright up in there?
cazalla: live footage from the BingoBoingo hearing
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BingoBoingo: cazalla: If this even goes to trial. I will magic the $300 fiat into existence for a jury.
BingoBoingo: It's fiat. Say it exists and it does.
BingoBoingo: !up SuchWow
cazalla: SuchWow, how about that dogecoin eh
BingoBoingo: Look, I am a serious bus, Ness.
SuchWow: cazalla: what does this chan have to do with dogecoin?
cazalla: speaking of movies again, looking forward to spectre even if every after goldeneye sucks shit
cazalla: SuchWow, show me on the doge dolly where palmer touched you
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Canon Casino Royal not that bad, has TV Hannibal
cazalla: i always liked 007 movies because he was cool, had the girls and now in spectre.. he has a 50 year old bond girl and an iphone.. i pretty much have this.. so much for suspending disbelief
cazalla: now everyone can be james bond!
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cazalla: don't get me wrong, monica bellucci is still very fuckable with all that make up on but she is no bond girl
cazalla: which means bond is no bond :\
BingoBoingo: Every now and then a true secret agent has to raid Queen Victoria's secret
cazalla: the next bond will prob be gay and black and there will be bond boys instead of girls
BingoBoingo: In that case I will just live and let die.
cazalla: what, do they expect BingoBoingo just to talk?
BingoBoingo: The amorphous "they" probably expects BingoBoingo to just quit and off himself. Shame they don't appreciate our up and coming tech journalism start-up.
cazalla: fwiw i plead guilty a couple times, but much younger and believe it or not, even stupidier
BingoBoingo: I don't plea because it is more expensive for the true enemy
cazalla: but then local magistrates here have a history of letting boys be boys.. just having a bit of fun type of shit
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BingoBoingo: Local magistrates here have a history of trying asbestos cases for the entire rest of USia, fuck them.
assbot: Free ice-cream for Uber followers in Gong | Illawarra Mercury ... ( )
cazalla: "but only for a day."
BingoBoingo: Why is Crocodile Dundee land is there a place named "Gong"
cazalla: see that light house, car park near it, pashed a few girls there in my time
cazalla: and a bit more but then that'd be braggin'
cazalla: the 'gong is yobbo for Wollongong
cazalla: aboriginal for no jobs since 1970
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shinohai: BingoBoingo: I need a qntrafier for btc articles from places like this:
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mircea_popescu: << really, there's no good reason for france to be anything else.
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 04:33:00; asciilifeform: ^ entirely realistic. france --> morocco.
mircea_popescu: << microsoft doesn't pay with actual money. their check never clears.
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 06:27:43; BingoBoingo: Personally I hope that OpenBSD treats MicroShaft with the same Courtesy they did MP after the check clears
mircea_popescu: openbsd decided it much prefers this, because the way to turn everything to shit is to surround everyone doing anything useful with a bunch of operational idiots.
mircea_popescu: this is the core and the root of the problem. and the fact that intelligent people are trained not to step on faces compounds it exponentially.
chetty: actual workers should be hermits
mircea_popescu: either that or should learn to spit on "helpful" this and thats.
mircea_popescu: << me either, but like "Avengers" - someone somewhere will be clinging on to anything.
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 08:09:42; cazalla: can't imagine doing this fast seduction/ladder theory/red pill/whatever iteration it is up to shit in the age of tindere
mircea_popescu: what's stars wars at , episode 500 ? the bold and the beautiful still running am i rite ?
shinohai: There is very, very little in way of anything entertaining on television here. The Bold and te Beautiful might actually be more entertaining than another rality show.
shinohai: *reality
shinohai is watching "Metastasis" right now though, and it is hilarious.
mircea_popescu never really had the patience.
mircea_popescu: << in which we learn cazalla looks just like a bodyguard i used to have. one of the better too.
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 08:14:11; cazalla: 21 year old pussy slaying cazalla
shinohai: I don't own a real television. Usually just watch everything on a PC
mircea_popescu: so watch italian tv
mircea_popescu: basically a buncha whores on a set talking all day.
shinohai: I watch Univision some, heck I wonder if I have any Italian language channels.
assbot: Buongiorno Benessere Rossitalia Rai Uno 02.03.2014 - YouTube ... ( )
mircea_popescu: << didn't know you swung that way ? was it your exposure to b-a ?
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 08:54:53; cazalla: the next bond will prob be gay and black and there will be bond boys instead of girls
mircea_popescu: >>< lmao they're re-doing a stupid piece we lolled at here a few days ago, which was re-doing for the mouthbreathers stuff that has nothing to do with what happened weeks ago because of what was said here months ago ?
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 10:21:22; shinohai: BingoBoingo: I need a qntrafier for btc articles from places like this:
mircea_popescu: what are you trying to do, cause a cycle ?
shinohai: Hopefully cause an event that leads to a collapse of shitty American media.
mircea_popescu: at least they scrubbed my name out of it, "constituency of chinese mienrs" nao
mircea_popescu: i guess i get the advantage of surprise the next time around too. pretty cool.
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mircea_popescu: < BingoBoingo funkenstein_ and who else wanted it ? pfd ?
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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al: phuctor is back
lobbesbot: New post: Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (PGP Corporation Update Signing Key; PGP Corporation Update Signing Key ; ) <>
asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes your bot misbehaves
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: these aren't new are they ?
asciilifeform: just the last N
mircea_popescu: well im off for nao
asciilifeform same. uranium mines
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funkenstein_: <-- somehow i missed this one which came out in year 0
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mod6: been stuck on block: 366662 for ~12 hours (since I restarted this patched up through verifyall gentoo build lastnight)
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asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: mod6: -addnode from dulap ?
mod6: -connect
mod6: yeah dulap
ascii_field: paste log ?
mod6: sure. give me a bit here...
ascii_field: dulap is 100% up to date chainwise
ascii_field: and has been since the 10th
ascii_field: currently 58 peers.
mod6: i could perhaps just try to restart it, but just wanted to let you know first before I shut it off or do anything else.
mod6: restart, etc.
ascii_field: no obvious clues in the log
ascii_field: i'm beginning to suspect network shenanigans
ascii_field: at any rate, we desperately need a multi-node version of '-connect'
ascii_field: (~NOT~ the same as '-addnode')
kakobrekla: but you can 'connect' to multiple nodes?
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nubbins`: "My Trezor finally arrived (but with scratches and rusted/not working cable)... I am happy anyway! I want to share my happiness :-)"
nubbins`: my actual sides.
nubbins`: guy orders device maybe a year+ ago. it finally shows up, scratched to shit, the usb cable is RUSTY and non-operational
ascii_field: for the love of god, montrezor !!!
ascii_field: (tm) (r)
nubbins`: but he's happy anyway.
nubbins`: he's so happy he needs to SHARE his happiness
nubbins`: at paying money last year for a rusty scratched-up piece of shit.
kakobrekla: and calls it 'valut'
mod6: <+ascii_field> at any rate, we desperately need a multi-node version of '-connect' << this would be great!
nubbins`: now he can finally plug a foreign usb HID device into point-of-sale terminals
nubbins`: or something.
ascii_field: kakobrekla points out that -connect does take multiples
nubbins`: (????)
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mod6: i'm wondering if i shouldn't just: A: 1) shutdown bitcoind, 2) restart bitcoind. If no further blocks are pulled, B: 1) shutdown bitcoind, 2) update time, 3) restart bitcoind
ascii_field: mod6: it wasn't your clock
ascii_field: that would show up in the log
ascii_field: instead, it is as if block were never sent.
mod6: ah right, there's a message about that.
mod6: forgot.
mod6: <+ascii_field> << Ah! so just -connect=dulap -connect=other
mod6: ?
mod6 tries
kakobrekla: i list them in the conf
mod6: ah ok
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BTR] 5000 @ 0.00111 = 5.55 BTC
nubbins`: i think it would be -connect=a -connect=b etc
mod6: !up ascii_field
mod6: ok restarting & connecting to dulap and incitatus
mod6: ok pulling blocks past 366662
funkenstein_: in numerology lulz news, current 42 coin supply: 41.96. Should pass 42 today.
ascii_field can only dream of such rich
punkman: speaking of which, 0.5.3 doesn't have the 21 million limit fix
ascii_field: punkman: which fix is that
punkman: iirc phoundation had a bug that'd let people mine past 21 million
mod6: are you talking about the subsidy overflow?
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punkman: mod6, dunno, can't find it in logs or google
mod6: this patch was submitted: but it is /already/ applied in v0.5.3 base, we never applied this patch. Here's the spot:
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mod6: I made brief mention of dignork's patch in the SoBA from December: http://thebitcoin.founation/ml/btc-dev/2014-December/000017.html
mod6: !up ascii_field
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mod6: one of these days, im gonna have to stop typing URLs. or start typing better! lol
assbot: Fix for GetBlockValue() after block 13,440,000 by ditto-b · Pull Request #3813 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( )
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punkman: slightly different issue there
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mod6: so yeah, that looks slightly different punkman
mod6: thanks for checking that out.
mod6: i'd think this is what we'd need to do there:
mod6: any thoughts?
funkenstein_ is wondering the utility of changing code now on an issue >100 years away
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: funkenstein_: years can pass quickly when usg diddles ntp
ascii_field: 'leap century' !
funkenstein_: lol :D
assbot: Palantir raises $450m in latest fund-raising round • The Register ... ( )
ascii_field: ^ possibly biggest direct nsa front after 'google'
mats: and Apple
ascii_field: apple sells toys
ascii_field: palantir sells gasenwagens.
ascii_field: i mean, ferfuxxake, look what they named themselves for
mats: Apple has the same SIGINT model as Google: vacuum all the data.
punkman: "Leap Centure" would be a good title for a sci-fi story
punkman: *century
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funkenstein_: The Palantíri were made by the Ñoldor in Eldamar, possibly by Fëanor himself during his time in Aman during the Elder Days in the Time of the Trees, and then given by the Elves to the Númenóreans, who kept them as heirlooms until the Fall of Númenor during the late Second Age; seven of these stones were rescued and brought to Middle-earth by Elendil and his sons and set in well-guarded towers throughout the Realms in
funkenstein_: Exile.
funkenstein_: ;;ud palantir
gribble: | Had a Palantir incident last night and I'm second guessing whether it was a good idea..." Person 2: "Yeah man, sometimes you have to be careful about Palantir.
mod6: !up ascii_field
assbot: Scotland Yard Requests Terrorist Content Removal ... ( )
mod6: seems like i've been hung up on block 366774 for while now. i'm connected to those two nodes...
mod6: nothing strange in the logs...
ascii_field: mod6: i see no useful clues in my logs, either.
mod6: ok.
mod6: thanks for checking
mod6: i'll let it go for a while. maybe it'll work itself out.
ascii_field: both nodes are fully synced
mod6: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.00054194 = 24.3873 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: soooo.... what's new
mircea_popescu: <mod6> i'll let it go for a while. maybe it'll work itself out. <<< pretty soon something like this is what ;;ud bitcoin will return.
mod6: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00054591 = 9.9356 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: << powercycle machine, powercycle house, powercycle internet...
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 15:08:15; mod6: i'm wondering if i shouldn't just: A: 1) shutdown bitcoind, 2) restart bitcoind. If no further blocks are pulled, B: 1) shutdown bitcoind, 2) update time, 3) restart bitcoind
mod6: :D
mod6: powercycle galaxy, powercycle universe
mircea_popescu: driver told me he heard they found a planet which might contain life 1400 light years away
mircea_popescu: wanted to know wtf light years are.
mircea_popescu: i told him nobody really knows, but light seconds are about ten times the circumference of the earth.
mod6: probably blew his whole concept of reality.
mircea_popescu: guy was certainly amused
mircea_popescu: ascii_field palantir 450mn, slashdot 20 mn, everything makes sense.
ascii_field: printing press - full, had to be emptied
mircea_popescu: so now owner of palantir goes out and buys himself fiddy million twenty dollar hookers, amirite.
mircea_popescu: coincidentally every female us resident under 30.
ascii_field: did beria buy ?
ascii_field: why buy what you already own
mircea_popescu: here's a fun factoid for you : just a shade under half of the us registered population (which means, about 60% of the actual population) pays no income tax.
mircea_popescu: i only ever ran a small town, but i never went for this bs. everyone has to pay A LITTLE. because otherwise...
mircea_popescu: because otherwise you don't own it.
mircea_popescu: so ... no. they don't own their arse.
ascii_field: hitler owns it
ascii_field: as i said earlier.
mircea_popescu: no such thing.
mircea_popescu: that government is so fucking weak, greece is actually a less decrepit state.
mircea_popescu: they don't collect, but they don't collect from like 1/3 not from like 3/5
punkman: they might not collect income tax from more than 1/2 of the population, but they collect through other means
thestringpuller: !up ascii_field
funkenstein_: heard in debate over tolls in highway robbers used to stop cars at gunpoint. now they build tollbooths.
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 11:45:30; mircea_popescu: in other news, three whores one bitch :
mircea_popescu: i think that's kinda the point.
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mod6: !up ascii_field
shinohai: Thanks a lot ascii_field, there goes my weekend
mod6: :]
mod6: wanna help test gentoo guide this weekend instead?
shinohai: I actually planned on that mod6, I got my lappy but it has a bad psu so I got to sauce one and some btc.
shinohai: Even tho I have never tried a gentoo install before :/
mod6: well, no worries. gentoo is a pain but the guide makes it pretty easy - hopefully.
mod6: let me know when you get something you an spin up a vm on or actal hardware
mod6: if anyone else wants to test the gentoo guide, gimme a holler. would like to get it verified before the end of the month.
joecool: mod6: yo
mod6: hey joecool
joecool: mod6: what are you needing tested? i have a few machines on gentoo
mod6: ah nice, we wanted to ensure our gentoo amd64 nomulitlib guide worked well for at least 1 third party before we put it out there to the list.
mod6: basically, it's just going through this step by step:
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 288.51, vol: 13880.67877035 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 285.59, vol: 9896.62287 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 288.5, vol: 21492.87866909 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 281.0, vol: 3.0962656 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 286.58, vol: 18904.49820000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 288.0, vol: 42.58702134 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 289.9776, vol: 78.87280006 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
cazalla: mod6, fwiw i used your gentoo install guide earlier in the week with no problems (couldn't get bitcoin up and running though, got stuck at though with some error about REALPATH)
mod6: and perhaps as soon as we send up the patched test bundle, someone could try compiling the static R.I. on there.
mod6: cazalla:
cazalla: mod6, 0x09 section of your guide
mod6: realpath should be on there by default iirc. but perhaps its not?
cazalla: curl wasn't either
mod6: section 0x9? are you talking about the how-to-patch guide? it's a separate thing.
mod6: yeah, curl certainly isn't installed by default
mod6: can't recall exactly about realpath
cazalla: yes i know but i would not be using the gentoo install guide unless i was moving on to the next guide, but i will have another go at some point
mod6: i still need to update the old how-to-patch guide etc. im actually pretty much complete on that... as soon as we give the green light on the test bundle i'll post my changes for that too.
mod6: !up ascii_field
cazalla: BingoBoingo, looks like your man Hulk Hogan is under attack again
assbot: Hulk Hogan fired by WWE after racist recordings emerge | US news | The Guardian ... ( )
ben_vulpes: never thought id see the day
funkenstein_: hehe, bet he wishes he never said that stuff about the Iron Shiek
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mircea_popescu: lol the libtards could never forgive the gawker sinkage huh
mircea_popescu: hulk hogan, old enough to have problems.
jurov: !t m f.mpif
assbot: Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
assbot: F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021519 B (Total: 427.54 B). Delta: 0.05 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+]
jurov: assbot on point, as always
jurov: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0035 / 0.00383295 / 0.00390807 (1953 shares, 7.49 BTC), 30D: 0.00136203 / 0.00396742 / 0.00469002 (8150 shares, 32.33 BTC)
joecool: mod6: sorry for the delay, i've been running no multilib on my systems for over 5 years now
mod6: joecool: ok good deal. i think this guide is more for people who haven't gentoo'd yet.
mod6: we're gonna nead help testing soon though. gentoo is one of our targets
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: mod6: since this is a static bin, the target - in the usual sense of the word - is a particular kernel abi, rather than gentoo, centos, etc
ascii_field: i.e. if there is anyone here with a linux box on which any of the bins built thus far fail to run, something is very very wrong
ascii_field: there are some possible corner cases:
ascii_field: iirc we never set a -march= in our flags
ascii_field: so the machine's local arch is used
ascii_field: (incl. potentially vendor-specific instructions, e.g., weird intelisms)
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cazalla: once i've finished grabbing gwern's archive, will be interest to search it to include some screenshots in these types of articles
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hanbot: general notice: anyone who has successfully built v0.5.3.1-RELEASE specifically on ubuntu please drop a line
mod6: ^^^
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asciilifeform: << incidentally, this is not unlike the idea that a farmer is 'weak' because he is only able to milk his cows but not the aphids living on the grass
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 18:15:59; mircea_popescu: that government is so fucking weak, greece is actually a less decrepit state.
nubbins`: aphid milk, nectar of the gods
asciilifeform: usg has a firm grasp on milking the real feed base - the low-six-fig-usd artisan
nubbins`: oh shit it's friday
asciilifeform: not only in the sense of taxation proper, but tacit permission of wage suppression cartels, etc. - the whole ensemble
nubbins`: wage suppression cartels!
asciilifeform: nubbins`: see log
asciilifeform: i'll also add that u.s. states are pretty good at milking the aphids - sales taxes of 5-10%
nubbins`: sales tax here is 13%
nubbins`: 14% Jan 1 2016
asciilifeform: leave no aphid behind!
nubbins`: heh.
nubbins`: used to be 12+7
nubbins`: which worked out, in practice, to ~20%
asciilifeform: how's that work
asciilifeform: national and local ?
nubbins`: 12% provincial tax, 7% federal
nubbins`: now it's a "harmonized"
nubbins`: some provinces have no provincial sales tax
nubbins`: actually, just one, alberta
asciilifeform: at any rate, ~THE~ american tax is: inflation. and it mainly affects folks with respectable, but firmly-fixed incomes
nubbins`: just american? :P
asciilifeform: whose net worth, if they happen to have one with a positive sign bit, consists of an unspent paycheque or three
asciilifeform: in usd.
nubbins`: but that describes almost every pensioner in north america :D
asciilifeform: for non-u.s. folk: the most explosively astonishing phun phakt re: american taxation, is that an extortionate tax (mechanically, lack of 'tax credit', but same thing) is applied to folks who refuse to do the mortgage thing
asciilifeform: (i.e. payments on mortgage are tax-deductible)
nubbins`: all payments or just the interest portion?
asciilifeform: interest, iirc
gernika: I will be negotiating the CPI (joke that it is) into my next contract.
nubbins`: i bet you have to pay capital gains tax when you sell it too
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assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 01:41:27; trinque: I took an adderall xr once and had an utterly terrible night, took notes on my entire calculus book
gernika: Never understood the mortgage interest tax credit. Seems like houses will just ... cost more.
nubbins`: houses will cost more, in general, until they don't.
nubbins`: interesting tidbit, i live in downtown st. john's, which happens to mostly consist of wooden row houses
nubbins`: went to renew my insurance
nubbins`: underwriter dropped my whole neighbourhood and we had to find a new one :0
gernika: why?
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nubbins`: gernika: because it's a tinderbox?
nubbins`: ^ st. john's, 1892
nubbins`: all those stone pillars you see are chimneys from houses that burned down
decimation: "“You have a vast cadre of people in the military — doctors, lawyers, intelligence specialists, cryptologists, mechanics — whose jobs are important because they support combat troops, but it is not their job to point weapons at people and kill them,”
assbot: Gen. Mark Milley: We Should Arm Military Recruiters | The Daily Caller ... ( )
decimation: "retired Navy Capt. Charles Stimson told Stars and Stripes. “I know JAGs (military lawyers), nurses, typists, legal clerks in the military who have never fired a weapon in their lives.”"
gernika: ah ok - close proximity + wood got it
nubbins`: so even though the fire station is so close to my house that i can hear the calls come in
nubbins`: it's almost impossible to get insurance
decimation: asciilifeform: usg should drop all income and gains taxes and only tax consumption
nubbins`: any home owners in here wanna share their annual insurance premium, as a percentage of the value of their home?
decimation: on the theory that those with actual wealth should only volunteer to pay tax
decimation: nubbins`: mine runs about 0.5%
nubbins`: mine, just over 0.6
decimation: you are in canada eh?
decimation: maybe find an independent insurance agent
nubbins`: got one 8)
decimation: I had good luck with one here in the us
nubbins`: none of the majors would even give me a quote
decimation: why do they think you are so risky?
decimation: poor construction?
nubbins`: <+gernika> ah ok - close proximity + wood got it
decimation: plenty of homes are made of wood in close proximity
decimation: there must be another factor
nubbins`: that close proximity? :P
nubbins`: most of the houses are 80-100 years old too
nubbins`: plenty of hidden roofs, double walls, etc
nubbins`: not at all unusual to chop a roof hole in a structure fire and find another completely rotting roof underneath
nubbins`: i had my shingles redone 3 years ago and they found FOUR LAYERS of shingles underneath the top one. The supporting wood was dust
decimation: I donno, seems pretty much like most older city blocks
nubbins`: pulling 2x4s in half with bare hands, etc
nubbins`: generally no firewalls between houses either
nubbins`: not that a firewall would prevent the flames from setting your roof on fire.
decimation: that is probably a big reason I would think
decimation: my understanding is that modern 'multi-family' housing typically includes 'fire clips' that ensure that a particular burning building collapses on itself
decimation: on the theory that it's better for the others
asciilifeform: like the (Official Truth version of) wtc, l0l
nubbins`: here's a government report from 2006
nubbins`: One gentleman from downtown St. John’s wrote to the Consumer Advocate:
nubbins`: “In November 2004 the house insurance dramatically escalated from $552.00 to $1,315.60. The municipal appraisal was constant. The insurance brokers advised me that it was almost impossible to obtain insurance for a downtown, partially attached house. They advised that the new rate was the best they could obtain. I personally telephoned two other insurance companies in St. John’s. In each call I was immediately asked the location of the
nubbins`: residence.
nubbins`: Upon responding I was promptly told that the company would not even entertain my request due to location. I therefore was forced to accept the $763 increase.”
decimation: asciilifeform: I saw the clips with my own eyes, made of shit metal that melts at low temps
decimation: asciilifeform: oh lordy don't tell me you're a 'truther'?
nubbins`: "Another couple from St. John’s advised the Consumer Advocate that, despite numerous attempts, they had not been able to obtain insurance at any cost for the past four and a half years on their attached King’s Bridge Road property."
nubbins`: imagine
nubbins`: not able to purchase fire insurance
nubbins`: at ANY COST
nubbins`: "IBAN confirmed that homeowners in the St. John’s downtown area have experienced difficulty in finding insurance coverage in the past. The reasons for this difficulty are the high concentrations of wood frame structures with varying type of occupancy and differing physical conditions."
nubbins`: translation: too many slums and boarding houses
nubbins`: wow, says here installing a woodstove would double my premium
nubbins`: anyway
nubbins`: i came up here 40 minutes ago to roll a jazz cig
nubbins`: back on track
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nubbins`: cazalla people tend to bump up the saturation in photos but it really does look like that
nubbins`: my house is just past the green spire in top left of frame
assbot: Hot Chip — Colours - YouTube ... ( )
cazalla: hard to imagine everyone agreed to it, was forced?
nubbins`: haha
nubbins`: in 1982 the pope came here and the gov gave everybody $$ to paint their houses
deedbot-: accepted: 1
nubbins`: Shane O’Dea, an expert on architectural heritage and historic preservation, said the idea of fancy window and door trim, and brightly-painted houses was born in 1977. In fact, the idea can be traced to one man, David Webber, the foundation’s executive director. In that year, the foundation took on a demonstration project by painting a sample block in bright colours, from Willicott’s Lane to Victoria Street, on both sides of the street.
nubbins`: ^ before this happened, most houses were painted with leftover marine paint from boats
nubbins`: and the city was drab as fuck
nubbins`: now it's just a thing people do. i have a friend who painted his house neon green
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cazalla: too exotic for my likings but i can see how it would appeal to creative types
nubbins`: yellow 123 is getting pretty popular these days
cazalla: our master bedroom is pink (forget the name of the colour) and that is about enough for me heh
nubbins`: sorry, i'm just using pantone numbers
nubbins`: some of them are burned into my brain
cazalla: yellow123 looks a nice yellow
nubbins`: #fdc82f for you hex colour types
nubbins`: yellow 123 is like the blue 072 of yellows.
cazalla: ill write that yellow down for when i paint son's room
cazalla: is that the blue facebook colour?
nubbins`: could be
nubbins`: blue 072 is one of the 14 pantone base colours
nubbins`: with which all others (incl. yellow 123) can be mixed
nubbins`: here's a diagram some may find interesting
nubbins`: the large coloured shape is the colour space of a standard human eye
nubbins`: the area inside the yellow triangle can be reproduced via sRGB (i.e. on your computer screen)
nubbins`: the area inside the pink blob can be reproduced via CMYK (i.e. printed products)
nubbins`: the black dots are the ~1,200 colours in the pantone matching system
assbot: The new PANTONE PLUS SERIES. - YouTube ... ( )
assbot: The new PANTONE PLUS SERIES. - YouTube ... ( )
nubbins`: drool
cazalla: on a scale of 1-10 such knowledge of colours interests me 0 but i can respect the enthusiasm and knowledge :)
nubbins`: cazalla, having a pantone book is like having a suitcase full of vials with "essence of ____" written on the labels
nubbins`: each one smelling of old leather, rustic tobacco, strawberry, green mould, etc
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cazalla: i bet you're the guy who steals all the paint swatches from the hardware store :P
nubbins`: nah, can't pantone match em ;)
nubbins`: look at that fucking press go
nubbins`: drool
cazalla: nubbins`, copics actually any good? missus has truckloads for some reason
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nubbins`: not my thing but from what i hear, yeah
nubbins`: dem brush tips
decimation: "As of the close, that had Wal-Mart’s market cap at $233.5 billion versus Amazon’s $224.5 billion, according to FactSet."
assbot: Amazon Is Now Worth More Than Wal-Mart - Digits - WSJ ... ( )
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decimation: < google salivates over the idea of appointing itself 'usg commissar of drones'
assbot: Google Wants a Piece of Air-Traffic Control for Drones - Bloomberg Business ... ( )
decimation: Dave Vos, who heads Google’s secretive Project Wing, told Bloomberg News in his most expansive comments on Google’s vision to date. “The idea being that it’s not ‘Google is going to go out and build a solution and everyone else has to subscribe to it.’ The idea really is anyone should be free to build a solution.”
decimation: translation: we will crush anyone who attempts to enter this space
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trinque: felipelalli: lol, looks like I need to make that regex greedy
trinque: I'll fix that then run your thing back through
trinque: "yo dawg, I heard you like gpg..."
felipelalli: trinque, what? :)
trinque: felipelalli: second signature got hacked off when it posted
trinque: no one could have ever forseen a signed message inside a signed message, you see!
decimation: asciilifeform, others: "I just committed a change making musl the new default libc in OpenWrt
assbot: OpenWrt Development List ... ( )
decimation: trunk, replacing uclibc."
trinque: felipelalli: second sig is gone
felipelalli: I just noticed it now
felipelalli: trinque, the problem was the UTF** again?
felipelalli: Or did I do something wrong?
assbot: Anime nerds are trying to Google bomb ISIS - Jul. 23, 2015 ... ( )
trinque: felipelalli: nah, muh regex is derped
trinque: I'll fix it this evening and send your thing back through
felipelalli: thank you very much. Actually you can ignore this. This was just the proposal contract, not the final yet.
trinque: eh I'll still send it through as a test case then
felipelalli: But I'll send a similar soon.
trinque: cool, sounds fine
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assbot: Skipping church? Facial recognition software could be tracking you - The Washington Post ... ( )
decimation: I considered building something like that myself
decimation: of course wapo thinks it's an evil idea, but perfectly fine for usg/telcoms to do it
decimation: obviously this kind of thing is going to slowly expand to be 'normal' in almost all situations
mats: time to bring back the hoodie and aviator sunglasses look
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cazalla: this is probably common to every library now but i look at the melbourne public library's website and notice they have ebooks available for loan.. go to loan ebook but can't because someone else has it out on loan and they only have 1 copy available
decimation: cazalla: doesn't that strike you as the dumbest thing ever?
cazalla: someone somewhere must be making a killing off such a scheme
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cazalla: i figured the loan button was just another way of saying download, should've known better
decimation: yes, it's certainly the case that your tax dollars are going to some kind of 'authors collective'
cazalla: trying to suss out if they charge late fees on ebooks now
decimation: I thought most of those 'ebook lending schemes' worked on some kind of time-based poison pill
assbot: Loper OS » To Lend is the Right of an Owner – That is, Not You. ... ( )
decimation: asciilifeform: what annoys me even more is that the selection of 'lendable ebooks' is complete shit
asciilifeform: unsurprising
decimation: usually throwaway fiction, never worthwhile technical books
asciilifeform: if someone is dumb enough to buy into such a chumpatron, why bother serving up anything but pablum
decimation: you would think they could at least serve up google's copy of pre-1923 books
asciilifeform: decimation: folks would cotton on to the truth - them being entirely free - pretty quickly
decimation: so the proles could read the victorians lamenting their future dumb asses
asciilifeform: last thing the 'ebook' racket wants is an infinite fountain of free.
asciilifeform: << the 'face recognizer' thing is setting the stage for some epic lulz. think 'sausage attack.' just about all the commercial face processors readily fall for inkjet-printed masks that wouldn't fool a child
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decimation: ^ all biometrics fall to similar kinds of sybil attacks
cazalla: asciilifeform, seems an obvious prediction in hindsight.. i guess i should step inside the library more often
decimation: cazalla: the problem is that most american libraries have gotten rid of their physical books
decimation: or carry nothing but similiar pablum
cazalla: i called them up regarding the late fees and no, no late fees on an ebook, librarian told me without prompting that they don't support the kindle either
asciilifeform: cazalla: the libraries where i live, still have books
asciilifeform: but the only ones with serious books are at universities
asciilifeform: the municipal libraries are being converted to halls where homeless folks can check email, yes.
cazalla: their ebooks use this software apparently,_Inc.
assbot: OverDrive, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( )
cazalla: well, software developed by that company anyway
cazalla: "The company's global network includes more than 27,000 libraries and schools."
asciilifeform: 'In January 2009, OverDrive informed Fictionwise that it would no longer be providing downloads for purchasers of e-books through Fictionwise as of January 31, 2009. No reason was provided to Fictionwise as to why it was being shut down. This prevents previous purchasers from being able to renew their books on new devices. Fictionwise was working to provide replacement ebooks for its customers in alternative, non-DRM-protected
asciilifeform: formats, but did not have the rights to provide all of the books in different formats.'
asciilifeform: it has ~always~ been abundantly obvious what 'content vendors' think of folks dumb enough not to pirate.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, either they think they can't 'reach that market' or they are dumber than the average prole
asciilifeform: copyrasts whine about 'if you made movie, you didn't make that movie' but there can be no such thing as too cruel a revenge for 'if you bought a book, you didn't buy that book'
decimation: asciilifeform: actually I find youtube to be an interesting case here
decimation: many otherwise strict copyrasts load up youtube with their warez (where they are easily copied)
decimation: they can't help themselves because 'think of the publicity!'
asciilifeform: they still persist in delusions of 'ownership'
asciilifeform: try displaying the thing outside of turdtube, sans pestilential ads, etc.
decimation: yeah, there's a tacit agreement - you can copy our stuff but only we can sell it
decimation: actually what I find far more offensive than pablum-slinging are the academic publisher fiefs
asciilifeform: these exist at the pleasure of usg.
decimation: sure, but they use their exalted position to keep out those who don't have 'notes from stalin'
asciilifeform: but also because today's academitards are risk-averse sheeple of the worst kind.
asciilifeform: 'can't put paper on www, it isn't prestigious'
decimation: 'need prestige to get sinecure'
asciilifeform: the operative word is 'get'
asciilifeform: get where, from who
asciilifeform: point the finger - there.
decimation: generally the crown, or one of its organs
asciilifeform: crown could, if wished, proclaim tomorrow 'any academic claiming a publication on his cv that is not freely available on www is committing fraud, and liable'
asciilifeform: don't hold your breath for this. but ~could~
decimation: they kinda made a halfass derp in that direction
decimation: but it has enough loopholes to not make a difference
asciilifeform: precisely the kind of faux reform that exists to 'check a box'
asciilifeform: 'see, we tried'
asciilifeform: but it is a mistake to think that elsevier, wiley, et al exist to 'keep research from the plebes.' no one gives half a rat's arse about plebes. they exist as an inevitable fly on the juicy meat of the university
asciilifeform: just like the suppliers of $100 test tubes and $500 table legs
decimation: yeah, the plebes are kept out merely as a side effect of the gorging
decimation: because if the shoe-shine boy could get in on the racket it's already blown its load
asciilifeform: yes, elsevier is in the position to 'you get to pay us $2mil/yr or you don't get to run a university library'
asciilifeform: but it is one of 1,001 such entities
asciilifeform: gigantic bags of money don't come with arms and legs, can't defend selves from rentseekers
decimation: as for 'sheeple' - you of course realize how thin the shadow of an implication of a threat you would need to make for a tenure-hopeful to be thrown into near-suicidal doubt
asciilifeform: ergo when usg throws money to academitards, it really enriches the vultures who feed on the latter
decimation: yeah, like the 'gold rushers' of yore, the folks who got rich were the middlemen
asciilifeform: drink that cup of its-weight-in-gold water.
asciilifeform: delicious.
asciilifeform: and costs just the same across the street, too.
asciilifeform: because - it can.
decimation: yeah, the miners were not known for actually holding gold
asciilifeform: and it is very much not because they did not want to.
asciilifeform: (at times, the 'water sellers' are peculiarly slow to catch up - consider, for instance, that mains current cheap enough to mine btc with at a profit still appears to exist somewhere !)
decimation: asciilifeform: actually I was thinking about how one could buy otherwise useless land in the desert, get usg to subsidize solar, and sell space in a 'miner's datacenter'
asciilifeform: good way to build a free gift of hash for usg
asciilifeform: i'll pass.
decimation: 'you didn't mine that bitcoin'
asciilifeform: and... where did the tx spam go
asciilifeform: i miss it so
decimation: free testing service?
asciilifeform: was very good test for me nodes
decimation: I guess the 'bitcoin core' devs and their patrons are regrouping
asciilifeform: making list of whose packets to drop must be hard wurk
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