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asciilifeform: phun phakt: napoleon was a closeted maths type
mircea_popescu: i occasionally set up boxes myself too.
asciilifeform: even has a theorem of his own name
mircea_popescu: alf has a good point, there IS an appeal to making own car.
mircea_popescu: there's also an appeal to cut one's own neck.
assbot: Napoleon's Theorem -- from Wolfram MathWorld ... ( )
trinque: I'm on a crippled device atm, but is capitalism unencumbered by the state not enough of a thing to do?
trinque: it is for me
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure. intelligence not impeached. just, there's this entire "genius" myth built around him because it was a particular time in the letters.
asciilifeform: like every other mega-hero
mircea_popescu: trinque as a boy, i was very distraught to find from my mother that if one invents something, he doesn't merely have to say what it should be
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nah that's jp << Japs introduced to baseball ways to make sure pitchers retire at the age they should just be getting interesting
mircea_popescu: but also, HOW to make it.
asciilifeform: ^ this really got me down, as a boy
asciilifeform: i also remember being told this.
mircea_popescu: i had a brilliant concept for a watch
asciilifeform: sorta assumed that grinder types would make it
mircea_popescu: steve blows stole my idea!
asciilifeform: if you told'em
mircea_popescu: see ? now that's something to envy.
mircea_popescu: this position.
mircea_popescu: fuck revolution, i want a computer that does what i mean.
decimation: ^ computer barbarism?
asciilifeform: revolution is so that you can make this 'computer' from meat.
asciilifeform: screaming, writhing meat.
mircea_popescu: you only think this works because you can't try it.
mircea_popescu: much like the alchemists of yore tricked the kings of yore
asciilifeform admits that can't try
asciilifeform: and yes, alchemists did not have access to fast neutrons
mircea_popescu: i can and have. it works as well as you'd expect, if you thinkj about it.
asciilifeform: may have cooled their enthusiasm, if they had
mircea_popescu: ie : when it works you didn't need it, and when it doesn't it doesn't help you anyway.
trinque: The best method I see is being more or less invisible until such time as one's wealth can be used to undermine the other thing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45900 @ 0.00055291 = 25.3786 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu references the "for honor" thread here
trinque: Hi, Satoshi.
BingoBoingo: The part where starting pitcher finishes game by tossing in the bullpen tends to lead to irreparable elbows. US pitchers jsut start getting interesting around 32-26, Japanese pitchers would be candidates for tommy joh 2, 3, or 4 at that age + cartiledge dammage
mircea_popescu: trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ?
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
asciilifeform: part of the reason for cutting heads is so that no one even begins to idly contemplate the notion that 'you didn't build that'
mircea_popescu: why do you care ?
assbot: Erika Mustermann — Wikipédia ... ( )
BingoBoingo: Hardest part of making own car is what to do to cool steam while parked.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you let it out.
asciilifeform: and get new water from the spout.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha what
asciilifeform: like any decent locomotive in a civilized town.
mircea_popescu: you buildion train orcar lol
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But then you have to feed fresh water or material gets released
BingoBoingo: From reactor of course
asciilifeform: run sodium cycle.
asciilifeform: to hell with water.
mircea_popescu is looking forward to his friends building own cars, will have inexhaustible supply of french fries thusly.
decimation: no, coal gas
BingoBoingo: Last time I planned car was ignorant of sodium cycling/Thorium reactors
BingoBoingo: Of course reactor goes in rear to allow for lead plate in seat backs
phf: there was a bunch of young pioneers car building clubs when i was growing up. that and model airplanes
decimation: it's my understanding that model airplanes mostly use electric engines now, no nasty 'glow gas'
BingoBoingo also later, in college conteplated building "Lotus 7" but remembered grander ideas. Decided was snooze.
asciilifeform missed all of the good stuff, but had elder brother. and thus from as old as could speak and think, already regarded civilization as a strictly past-tense affair
asciilifeform: decimation: i was quite surprised to learn that at least one of the 'self-beheading incident' model choppers was electric !
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asciilifeform: now ^ ~that~'s progress!
decimation: heh really
asciilifeform: 'here comes a candle to light you to bed, here comes a chopper to chop off your head' (tm) (r) (orwell)
decimation: actually electric would be much better in terms of throttle response
asciilifeform: this is why there was no (afaik) petrol-fueled model 'quadcopter'
phf: decimation: i thought electric stuff is what you get in a prebuilt models, you can still buy a nitro engine
decimation: yeah no electro-mechanical throttle
decimation: phf: sure, folks still use
decimation: to me the serious business is a full four-cycle engine
assbot: The OS-Graupner Wankel engine ... ( )
asciilifeform: actually the real deal might be a locomotive-style drivetrain
asciilifeform: where petrol engine turns dynamo, which powers a mighty multicopter
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> this is why there was no (afaik) petrol-fueled model 'quadcopter' << Thought this was more because making differentials was hard
asciilifeform: you need rapid and extremely replicable control over thrust
asciilifeform: for the self-balancing deal
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, that's why serious folks use turbines
assbot: MQ-9A Predator B UAV ... ( )
decimation: plus plenty of power for electrics
asciilifeform: phf: how does this machine stay horizontal ?
asciilifeform: ailerons ?
asciilifeform: i mean, yes, it is elementarily possible to turn 1001 propellers from one engine if you wanted to
asciilifeform: but you don't get the gyroscope balancer thing
asciilifeform: where you can kick it and it stays in same place.
phf: asciilifeform: that's what it looks like, re ailerons, the image is from here
assbot: Description - Gas Copter ... ( )
asciilifeform: just pointing out that the appear of the multicopters is precisely that you don't need movable aerodynamic surfaces
asciilifeform: or much aerodynamism at all
asciilifeform: sorta the logical maximum of 'offload complexity to software'
phf: asciilifeform: right, it's a bogus website anyway. i was more curious how differentials look on a quadcopter, and that came up
asciilifeform: pertinently, i went for a walk in nyc on saturday
asciilifeform: in time square, found a ruined toy quadcopter
asciilifeform: worth no more than fiddybux when new
asciilifeform: gave it to a phriend, who will strip away the dirt, it will fly
asciilifeform: because just about all of the complexity is in the computer.
decimation: wow predator weighs 10k pounds
decimation: that's a big aircraft
asciilifeform: empty ?
BingoBoingo: decimation: Predator follows USg school of design which created "Abrams"
asciilifeform: decimation: source for the 10k?
decimation: no full takeoff weight
asciilifeform: i think this is a 4-5x overestimate
decimation: link above ^
decimation: "Another version of the Predator B, with a 20-ft. wing extension, started flying in late 2002. The standard MQ-9, at a takeoff weight of 10,000 lb., can carry 3,000 lb. of payload and 3,000 lb. of fuel."
asciilifeform: saw it in museum, hanging, fuselage was the size of a compact car
decimation: "The version with the wingspan extended to 86 ft., about the same as a 737 airliner, can carry 34 hr. of internal fuel. With two 1,000-lb. drop tanks and 1,000 lb. of weapons it can fly a 42-hr. mission."
asciilifeform: what's that for, nyc to afghan and back ?
decimation: no, so they can orbit about interesting areas for a long time
decimation: I remember watching a tv show about B-2 bomber crews. they showed a 'simulated bombing' of baghdad from nebraska
decimation: crew actually locked themselves in simluator for 40 hours
decimation: not nebraska, whitman afb in missouri
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assbot: Google Maps ... ( )
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asciilifeform: the infamous, original, flying goldentoilet
decimation: indeed.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> not nebraska, whitman afb in missouri << Drinking with friend at University of Central Missouri we played a game of guess which middle aged air force folk were B-2 pilots
decimation: sounds like a boring job, honestly
decimation: take off, fly straight for 40 hours
asciilifeform: like commercial flying bus
decimation: yeah except mil bomber probably has fewer ammenities
assbot: Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. ( )
decimation: I did a tour of wwii era bombers, they were horrible places in which to spend time
decimation: tiny crawlspaces, tiny cabins
assbot: Google Maps ... ( )
asciilifeform: old rusty tub ?
assbot: Google Maps ... ( )
decimation: that is rather odd, being off the flight line
decimation: asciilifeform: ah, it's a training area for fire fighters
decimation: which it is why it is next to that pond I think
assbot: Google Maps ... ( )
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trinque: mircea_popescu | trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ? << perhaps bitcoin is well upstream of anyone's revolution
trinque: and perhaps structures that are quite old and have always been there will continue to work happily, while others may wither and die
trinque: seems to be the way life reacts to environmental change
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mircea_popescu: wouldn't surprise me.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> you buildion train orcar lol << notrly that bad of an idea. external combustion engine has its upsides, among them workable in 'jungle conditions;'
ben_vulpes practicing hitting far right keys w/pinky
mircea_popescu: i never heard of the jungle train
ben_vulpes: gasenwagen though.
ben_vulpes: ah hm wrong reference.
ben_vulpes: low-efficiency vehicles that burned * and pushed gas through pistons?
ben_vulpes: anyways, point of junglengine is to burn whatever's around and produce rotation. i've always planned this to be a 'tesla turbine' hooked to washing machine motor for ease of fabrication.
ben_vulpes: could just as easily be stirling.
mircea_popescu: seems to me jungle is everywhere cut down by diesel engines.
ben_vulpes: ain't much diesel left.
assbot: Bonneville Stirling Engine ... ( )
BingoBoingo: Moar diesel
ben_vulpes: you know BingoBoingo i think you have a thing
ben_vulpes: in the way that mircea_popescu has a thing
mircea_popescu: i hjave a thing ?!
ben_vulpes: oh don't be coy
mircea_popescu: coy's my thing!
assbot: Thisfatfuck - SLiMGUR ... ( )
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I'm jsut addressing the energy crisis
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cazalla: i thought mircea_popescu's black dick tumblr shots were bad but BingoBoingo is in a league of his own
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scoopbot_revived: Eulora's largest trade to date and assorted teologico-socioeconomic considerations
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 01:15:25; gernika: mod6 let me know if there's anything else I can do to help with this. Would suck if x% of pogos wedged at 168001
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cazalla: if BingoBoingo and mircea_popescu links had a baby
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shinohai: Jesus Christ my email is unreliable lately, I'm going to have to find something better.
fluffypony: shinohai: Facebook messaging
fluffypony giggles
shinohai: kek never even had a "facebook"
shinohai: twitter is about the limit of my social media presence
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shinohai: I guess I could join this shit:
assbot: Catter - The first anonymous social media network for cats ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3239 @ 0.00051534 = 1.6692 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: << i will repeat, i currently have no wedged nodes. even incitatus caught up yesterday and has been synced continuously since.
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 01:20:23; mod6: my one gentoo (all ascii's patches through verifyall x86-64/glibc) build got all the way up to where nsl is wedged. but my openbsd one is crawling along on verify all also... so far: height=220047
asciilifeform: mod6: dulap (s.nsa flagship node) unwedged on july 10 when i fixed its clock. 'zoolag' was never wedged in its whole life thus far.
asciilifeform: all three nodes are currently up
asciilifeform: 366601 at this time
asciilifeform: dulap has 71 peers which is a new record.
asciilifeform: zoolag - 63
asciilifeform: incitatus - 30
shinohai will report back with another node if he can ever build the damned thing.
kakobrekla: i have and
kakobrekla: which is the third?
kakobrekla: ok ty
asciilifeform: ^ incitatus
kakobrekla: do they have any dns entries set? (i know you cant use it directly)
asciilifeform: the first 195... is
asciilifeform: 96... -
asciilifeform: 64... - none
assbot: Operators Arrested for Running Illegal Bitcoin Exchange ... ( )
kakobrekla: i can put a on them ?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: aha
mod6: <+asciilifeform> 366601 at this time << ah ok. i'll start mine back up later. i had shut it down because it had been on the same block for >36 hours.
asciilifeform: mod6: what was this ?
asciilifeform: as in, what was running, built how, and on what ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115214 @ 0.0005182 = 59.7039 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: it was: gentoo x86-64 glibc: v0.5.3.1+{ these patches in this order: } built with stator build script. connected to: running with verifyall - ran great up until a few days back. we discussed this.
asciilifeform: link to thread ?
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 01:11:24; mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, confirm that on ur one node i'm wedged at 365441
asciilifeform: and was this an '-addnode' or a '-connect' sync ?
mod6: -connect
mod6: -connect -myip -verifyall
mod6: i don't have much more info than that right now. can revisit later though for sure.
kakobrekla: ok, so theres now and
asciilifeform: i'd prefer the original names
kakobrekla: you can have both
asciilifeform: ty kakobrekla
asciilifeform: but must remind folks, no dns in therealbitcoin
asciilifeform: gotta ping'em
kakobrekla: its generally wise to avoid dns where possible
kakobrekla:,, is set
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133700 @ 0.00051005 = 68.1937 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: thanks kakobrekla
kakobrekla: muh plesuar
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89100 @ 0.00051464 = 45.8544 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai: mats u there b ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143852 @ 0.00051033 = 73.412 BTC [-] {3}
bitstein: ;;later tell pete_dushenski mazel tov!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Adlai: ;;later tell pete_dushenski shetizke leamlot velo lemitzvot!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171300 @ 0.00050937 = 87.2551 BTC [-] {4}
kakobrekla: ;;later tell pete_dushenski saj ni važno kaj je, le da bo zdrav fant.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: !up asciilifeform
mod6: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: !s
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00053745 = 14.9949 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 05:41:58; ben_vulpes: you know BingoBoingo i think you have a thing
gabriel_laddel: If you're reading it, it's for you + wrong in all the right places?
assbot: Operators Arrested For Violating Anti Money Laundering Laws | Qntra ... ( )
trinque: just outlaw entrepreneurship and be done with it.
trinque: tired of this "just the tip" nonsense
gabriel_laddel: << I would pay for a video of Stoya reciting PURSUING THE LIMITS OF FAILED SYMMETRY + a few other Schwartz works while being fucked.
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 14:48:21; mircea_popescu: actually it's probably ready for a revival, if people like stoya, kim kardashian and whoever else of the new slut generation can be arsed.
trinque: we can't even do communism right
gabriel_laddel: There is a lot to do in this vein, actually.
gabriel_laddel: Sasha Grey sorta got that, but only after she finished her career.
gabriel_laddel: Or instead of the "stupid student fucks teacher" trope, reverse it. Stud teacher is teaching Taylor's therom incorrectly, smart, slutty student explains & fucks.
gabriel_laddel: With lots of hitting, choking and "give me the CORRECT solution you stupid slut"
trinque: bahaha, this is more insight into gabriel_laddel's fetishes than I ever needed
gabriel_laddel didn't even know he was into this, until now
gabriel_laddel: thanks MP
trinque: gabriel_laddel: I added conkeror to my stumpwm setup
trinque: one thing I don't like is that different conkeror windows do not have the same buffers list
gabriel_laddel: trinque: wtf do you have multiple windows for?
trinque: multiple screens.
gabriel_laddel: yeah, idk
gabriel_laddel: trinque: you prolly want the masamune "backdoor" for conkeror
trinque: I mean, it's a minor quibble.
gabriel_laddel: allows scripting with parenscript
gabriel_laddel: It still fucking sucks, but eh
trinque: I'm not gonna push ya to gimme masamune til you're done.
trinque: bu tI'll probably keep grabbing components in the meanwhile
gabriel_laddel: Just grab it
gabriel_laddel: .../masamune/browser/
gabriel_laddel: it's all in there
trinque: ok, I'll check it out
gabriel_laddel: there is a default .conkerorrc file that is required to run it called default-conkerorrc.js
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72000 @ 0.0005345 = 38.484 BTC [-]
gabriel_laddel: trinque: do you want CL work?
trinque: nah, I'm already maxed out
assbot: Universal finds pirated copy of Jurassic World seeded from its own servers | Technology | The Guardian ... ( )
mats: shinohai: am here
trinque: shinohai: beatings for these hashbang people telling me to sh <(curl anythingontheinternet)
trinque: though I guess they acknowledge it in the source
trinque: tls 1.0, sha1 sigs, lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 283850 @ 0.00053804 = 152.7227 BTC [+] {3}
shinohai: trinque: they are trying to be clever. I never talk to most of 'em. I just pay my bill every month
shinohai always likes having extra shell capacity
assbot: Hacking Team: a zero-day market case study ... ( )
mats: these names, man
mats: >NEONNIPPLE: Office 2007, Word + Excel, required ActiveX control, required user interaction (going to Edit menu)
mats: >BACKPAIN-FUN ($100k): Multi-OS Flash SOP bypass
trinque: mats: has to go without saying at this point to disable flash...
trinque: browser plugins in general
mats: yeah. HT email archives suggest they have a couple Silverlight 0days, but i haven't seen it in any of the released code
mats: lots of folks vulnerable to those -- people not on Chrome that use Netflix for example
trinque: yep, and even on chrome doesn't it use that widevine thing?
mats: 'widevine' is for mobile, i believe
trinque: my chrome had it before I turned it off
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
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assbot: Digital Misfits Link JPMorgan Hack to Pump-and-Dump Fraud - Bloomberg Business ... ( )
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thestringpuller: ascii_field: << This is pretty much sums up your thoughts on the matter.
solrodar: ;;later tell ben_vulpes any progress with the boost problem you had with my script? What was the problem anyway?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117700 @ 0.00050775 = 59.7622 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Universal Seeds Own Film to Pirates | Qntra ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153057 @ 0.00051866 = 79.3845 BTC [+] {2}
mats: BingoBoingo: that's a confusing title
BingoBoingo: Which part?
mats: mostly 'Seeds'
mats: the sentence is hard to parse if you don't understand the bittorrent protocol
BingoBoingo: Or Bukkake
mats: 'Universal Unwittingly Shares Jurassic World with BitTorrent Pirates' mebbe
BingoBoingo: Fine, title updated url same
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00052588 = 21.4559 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00052398 = 2.4889 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 276.35, Best ask: 276.59, Bid-ask spread: 0.24000, Last trade: 276.23, 24 hour volume: 7131.42363814, 24 hour low: 275.56, 24 hour high: 278.44, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
trinque: so, deedbot- has an open port 7000 connection, yet it is absent here
trinque: wtf?
mircea_popescu: absent where ?
trinque: it is not on freenode
mircea_popescu: ;;seen funkenstein
gribble: funkenstein was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <funkenstein> !register 6B0D10D1878DE25B4DA2695AB2B6360488298AB6
mircea_popescu: ;;seen funkenstein_
gribble: funkenstein_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 46 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <funkenstein_> re: hastings, uconnect: "boston brakes" is the term used in reportage by veteranstoday and others
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell funkenstein_ hey weren't you pretending to be a dwarf ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1584*.199
gribble: 315.216
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32355 @ 0.00053172 = 17.2038 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Nick Szabo: Bitcoin "more vulnerable to selfish mining if delays become more prominent, e.g., in the case of larger blocks" : Bitcoin ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90245 @ 0.00054253 = 48.9606 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: o wait, reddit disapproves of szabo now ?
BingoBoingo: Apparently
BingoBoingo: He was their Satoshi until he talked blocksize
mircea_popescu: must suck to be the dumb.
ben_vulpes: y'know trinque its probably cawsmic race
trinque: ben_vulpes: wut?
ben_vulpes: cosmic rays!
trinque: o lol
trinque: I'm gonna go with "wad of golang I'd rather kill than inspect"
mircea_popescu: << very much this. there's little hope to get the gearing smooth enough
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 04:15:36; asciilifeform: actually the real deal might be a locomotive-style drivetrain
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 04:23:12; BingoBoingo: decimation: Predator follows USg school of design which created "Abrams"
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 04:48:44; trinque: mircea_popescu | trinque what is this, "i'll date once i'm rich enough for it to work" ? << perhaps bitcoin is well upstream of anyone's revolution
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 14:58:22; kakobrekla:,, is set
mircea_popescu: holy shit FANT is boy in slovenian ?!
mircea_popescu: this is so cute
mircea_popescu: (jack of cards is fante in romanian; young man about town idem).
mircea_popescu: and obviously, zdrav-an, ie, zdrav-like = strong, hearthy.
kakobrekla: hehe cool
mircea_popescu: is vazno off "to see" root ?
kakobrekla: vazno ~ pomembno ~ important
mircea_popescu: aha. how do you say to see ?
mircea_popescu: << hehe it's how that place's been running for so long now...
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 18:17:06; trinque: tired of this "just the tip" nonsense
kakobrekla: "to see" would be close to 'videti'. sight is 'vid'.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel so talk to her, odds are she'll do it.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla aha ty!
kakobrekla: anyway, that line goes something 'it doesnt matter what it is, as long as the boy is healthy.'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64200 @ 0.00052398 = 33.6395 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 18:23:00; gabriel_laddel: thanks MP
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i got that :)
kakobrekla: ah :)
mircea_popescu: "As a result, their 0day providers tended to be small and unestablished. Some established exploit vendors, like VUPEN and COSEINC, did offer to sell Hacking Team exploits, but they were predominantly overpriced, second-rate, and not even 0day. As a result, Hacking Team was seriously exploit supply constrained because they had difficulty finding suppliers that they deemed reliable and reasonably priced. Their competitor
mircea_popescu: s, like Gamma International and NSO Group, prominently advertised their 0day capabilities, forcing Hacking Team to be defensive with prospective customers."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform satisfied nao ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00053178 = 28.2907 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Hacking Team's CTO claimed that VUPEN “burned” their (presumably unsold) vulnerabilities after a set period of time to move the exploit market; putting their deployments in jeopardy." doh.
mircea_popescu: "Exploit portfolios: VBI regularly sent portfolio updates to its customers. Though they were encrypted, Hacking Team's habit of forwarding encrypted messages unencrypted means that many of them are accessible. "
mircea_popescu: fucktards. how about that ?
mod6: asciilifeform: the build we were discussing earlier is now up and running against and seems to be pulling blocks again just fine.
mircea_popescu: "Several of these forwards included a PDF with VBI's entire exploit portfoli"
mircea_popescu: fucktard. HOW ABOUT THAT
mircea_popescu: he needed pdf don't you know.
mircea_popescu: buncha fucking amateurs this world is made out of i swear.
mod6: asciilifeform: up to, height=365462 now. and my other obsd build has been connected the whole time and still chugging along: height=224116
mircea_popescu: "Rosario is an Italian security researcher with specializations in browser security and fuzzing. [...] During this time he primarily focused on fuzzing SVG, XSLT, and XPath. He was paid $3.5k EUR per month" << alright ? guy made 50k a year. thinkaboutit.
mircea_popescu: "Fuzzer results: Though Rosario's fuzzers found numerous crashing test cases, like most fuzzer outputs few of them appeared exploitable. One of the first crashes that looked exploitable was an IE10 memory corruption that was patched within a week of its discovery. Soon after, Rosario found a Firefox crash that looked exploitable but only appeared to occur under memory pressure. Despite months of analysis, Hacking Team
mircea_popescu: was unable to turn this into a working exploit. It was discovered in October of 2013 and VUPEN used the same bug to win Pwn2Own in May of 2014."
mircea_popescu: geniuses over there.
mircea_popescu: i would say Vlad Tsyrklevich thoroughly vindicates my side in the original discussio re these schmucks.
mircea_popescu: they had to pick between opening webcam studio, call center or "security firm" and not able to find the female lips of either kind for either of the first two settled on what sweaty balls could do.
mircea_popescu: and guess what... "Vlad likes long romantic walks on the beach, e-mail him sweet nothings to using his gpg key." links to keybase.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51606 @ 0.00052398 = 27.0405 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: too bad for him, he put all this effort into writing a neat article in the hopes of maybe impressing people, he's almost there and then he shoots his sale in the head with stupid associations like that.
mircea_popescu: i guess it's the fate of the aspiring 14% to never know what actually sunk their decade of effort.
mircea_popescu: omfg who the fuck got bloomberg to put that stupid lined paper background. what, they think ima think they're moar professional like this ?
mircea_popescu: "Though these are separate cases, some of the individuals are linked. A principal in the alleged securities-fraud scheme is a business associate of one of those charged in the Florida bitcoin operation, a friendship dating back more than a decade to their days at Florida State University.
mircea_popescu: The two are also identified in a previously unreported FBI memo that connects them to the investigation of the hack of JPMorgan as well as to incidents at Fidelity Investments Ltd. and E*Trade Financial Corp. JPMorgan officials argued initially that one of the largest U.S. bank hacks in history was the work of the Russian government."
mircea_popescu: herp. fancy this : governments currently confuse individuals for governments now.
mircea_popescu: " In June, JPMorgan reassigned Chief Information Security Officer Greg Rattray amid staff discord over his handling of the breach. Rattray and his boss, Jim Cummings, a former head of the U.S. Air Force’s cyber-combat unit, were the chief advocates of the theory that the Russian government was involved in the breach"
mircea_popescu: "On the 15th of this month Universal Pictures France filed a takedown request with Google (archived) demanding they remove from results sites hosting or linking pirated copies of Jurassic World. Among the addresses Universal demanded Google sanction was which is the IP address a computer reserves for communicating with itself. This means that not only was Universal seeding its own film to pirates, it was like
mircea_popescu: ly doing so from the same machine used detect and prepare a report on infringement for Universal."
mircea_popescu: epic lol of all time.
mircea_popescu: of course, this looks a lot more like someone not knowing their way around a netstat dump than a legitimate thing. because i don't imagine torrents work so that a computer ever advertises itself as localhost.
mircea_popescu: they'd have seen it as whatever its ip actually were, if actually seeding.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bingoboingo "Yet, in the situation where the very fabric and reliability of the Internet at large is threatened it is no one prerogative care that they are offering on open Denial of Service attack amplifier on their connection." i think you accidentally a verb.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 233850 @ 0.00051523 = 120.4865 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 23:20:34; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform satisfied nao ?
mircea_popescu: "Additionally, the FBI said that the Murgio sold bitcoins to victims of ransomware attacks such as Cryptowall. " << yeah, like various USG offices, including if memory serves a sherrif. i suppose this is now a crime, right ? selling bitcoin to the derps. them using public funds to pay the ransom IS FINE!
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 23:30:19; mod6: asciilifeform: the build we were discussing earlier is now up and running against and seems to be pulling blocks again just fine.
mircea_popescu: them having thew windows hole in the first time, for which they paid with more public funds, also fine.
mircea_popescu: just selling them bitcoin is bad
mircea_popescu: motherfucker shitforbrains.
asciilifeform: 'sold enemy of the crown water to drink' will eventually lead to gallows, yes
mircea_popescu: they sold the fucking crown AGENT water to drink.
asciilifeform: naturally
asciilifeform: how else caught !
mircea_popescu: nononono.
asciilifeform: !s strela
assbot: 19 results for 'strela' :
mircea_popescu: the sold bitcoin to some derps who needed it to pay cryptolocker.
mircea_popescu: such derps = usg law enforcement.
mircea_popescu: basically, the situation here is, us marshall goes into gun shop, buys ammo, shotos his wife.
mircea_popescu: is excused from murder, and from illegal use of his budget
mircea_popescu: but they propose the gun shop owner did somethingwrong.
asciilifeform: l0l aha
mircea_popescu: "By selling bitcoins to the victims, the FBI, notably, holds Murgio responsible for enabling the criminals responsible for the attacks to receive the proceeds of their crimes."
mircea_popescu: how about that ?
mircea_popescu: "the victims" aka government agents, who both provide the holes and the payments, are a-ok.
asciilifeform: << to be fair, we (at least i) do not know for precisely how many seconds of actual-work he earned this.
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 23:32:31; mircea_popescu: "Rosario is an Italian security researcher with specializations in browser security and fuzzing. [...] During this time he primarily focused on fuzzing SVG, XSLT, and XPath. He was paid $3.5k EUR per month" << alright ? guy made 50k a year. thinkaboutit.
mircea_popescu: because government shit don't stink.
mircea_popescu: fuck this.
mircea_popescu: so it's not the fucking marshall's office that ENABLED the criminals by paying tax dollars for windows shit
mircea_popescu: and it's also not the fucking marshall's office that ENABLED the criminals by paying them bitcoin
mircea_popescu: no, no, it's the bitcoin salesman that's to blame. he did it all!
asciilifeform: the only hypothesis that has a prayer of explaining all of this is that microshit is sacrosanct in usa
asciilifeform: a kind of national church.
mircea_popescu: i do not care for any explanation.
asciilifeform: students of collective madness might care for explanation
mircea_popescu: this is how people end up funding "terrorism", for the record, if anyone wondered.
BingoBoingo: Undid accidentalied
mircea_popescu: half a day of this shit, you're willing to pay money to anyone shooting that way.
mircea_popescu: in any case : the front against the usg in the cyber world is only going to strengthen the way it's going. within a decade we will see full area denial in the sense that no govt anything will still run online.
asciilifeform: ianal, but the legalistic talmudism (talmudic legalism?) under which the fl folks are being charged, was something more like 'sold ammo to fella who spoke of his criminal plan' rather than 'sold ammo to fella who turned out to be criminal'
asciilifeform: this is a traditional thing in usa
mircea_popescu: not what it says.
asciilifeform: 'In doing so, they knowingly exchanged cash for people whom they believed may be engaging in criminal activity. MURGIO and his co-conspirators have also knowingly exchanged cash for Bitcoins for victims of “ransomware” attacks...'
mircea_popescu: ie, defrauding the taxpayer to pay his cybercriminal buttbudies.
asciilifeform: does seem like a straight application of 20th c. u.s. law, though. where it is formally illegal not to turn stoolie.
mircea_popescu: how were they to know ?
mircea_popescu: here is the case : 1. us marshall got a friend of his to intall a cryptolocker on the office computer.
mircea_popescu: 2. us marshall stole money from the office budget, to buy bitcoin with
mircea_popescu: 3. us marshall gave bitcoin to his friend.
mircea_popescu: how is the bitcoin seller responsible for this ?
mircea_popescu: what if he had bought a cow ?
asciilifeform: sorta like dope peddler who buys a bag of 'coke' (sugar) from one usg provocateur and sells it to another
mircea_popescu: and most importantly, where is the fraud, racketeering and criminal organisation/conspiuracy indictment for the us marshall in question ?
asciilifeform: is considered just as guilty of the offence as one who was found with the genuine article
asciilifeform: in usa.
mircea_popescu: not AT ALL the same.
mircea_popescu: not at all the same.
mircea_popescu: it's sorta like the guy who does a lube job for the unmarked police car which the cop driving was using to steal coke from the evidence room.
mircea_popescu: they failed to indict the cop and are prosecuiting the mechanic.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck does this make sense.
mircea_popescu: "he drove it in, i lubed it. it's what i do. what the fuck do you schmucks want ?"
mircea_popescu: "i mean i get it, frantic activity as a cover for YOUR FUCKING IMPOTENCE, but really... get to terms with it already".
asciilifeform gives up trying to 'make sense' of this nyooz, because, yes, it does not actually make sense as presented by usg
mircea_popescu: this is why i say " within a decade we will see full area denial in the sense that no govt anything will still run online.". they're simply too weak and ineffectual to do anything that matters, and even they know it. by 2025 internet will be exactly like iraq for the usg.
mircea_popescu: "show up here and get deaded
asciilifeform: perhaps on that other internet, the one not owned & operated by usg subsidiaries
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "owned". they don't havew the grip to own with, which is what the haks prove, and they know they do not have the resources or werewithal to get it, which is what this deranged prosecutorial overactivity proves.
asciilifeform will probably have to take a plane (raft ? oxcart?) to visit ~that~ internet
mircea_popescu: it's a foregone conclusion, they may operate it, but only for us.
mircea_popescu: you're on it right now.
mircea_popescu: the situation is quite exactly like that of the "16 yo with a hot ass owned and operated by her dad". yeah, it's true he made it. and it';s also true that his choices are, either suck up to me when i show up and offer me drinks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: idk, last i checked i was on that one :
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mircea_popescu: or otherwise get beaten to shit, on a weekly basis,.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform won't last.
asciilifeform: where will 'it' go, and exactly why ?
mircea_popescu: same place jpm email archive went, for the same exact reason.
mircea_popescu: and i'll say this to assuage your doubts : i am the man who said "you are not safe, for we know where you live". a year and change later, reality has borne my saying : the entire usg employee list, leaked. etc.
asciilifeform: so how many are heads on pikes now ?
mircea_popescu: turns out i perhaps DID actually know who everyone's cheating with at the time i said so.
mircea_popescu: actual physical pikes ? none.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174553 @ 0.00051326 = 89.5911 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: for that matter, leaked, but not - iirc - public
mircea_popescu: do you count lawsky ?
asciilifeform: from my perch, could be disinfo
asciilifeform: lawsky is still network 100x+ what i am
mircea_popescu: wasn't he super-hotshot and whatnot a eyar ago ?
asciilifeform: that's no pike.
asciilifeform: *net worth
mircea_popescu: ahnahahaah WHAT
mircea_popescu: you can't math, seriously.
asciilifeform: this may be true. my net worth is approximately 0
assbot: Banca d’Italia Ends AML/KYC For Bitcoin Businesses, Opts Out Of Economic Death | Qntra ... ( )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider i've done the aaaaah handfling at you.
asciilifeform considers.
asciilifeform: re: herr lawsky, wake me up when he's breaking his back 60-80h/wk to pay his rent.
mircea_popescu: which you know he isn't, because you assume so and that makes it a fact. meanwhilke you aren't, but you asume you aree, because idem.
asciilifeform: mandarins don't turn into mud dwellers in usa, in general
mircea_popescu: i can't argue with magicians now can i.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "he's a nigger which makes him a thief"
mircea_popescu: gotta try the mandarin cases invididually yes ?
mircea_popescu: sure, mandarins didn't use to. but then bitcoin happened and we've wrounght a trail of destruction the likes of which
mircea_popescu: was never seen nor will be seen again until next week's.
asciilifeform: it is true that i do not own a telescope with sufficient magic to show me herr lawsky standing in a welfare queue
asciilifeform: even if he is - through some miracle - in one.
mircea_popescu: you do, just dun' wanna use it.
mircea_popescu: it's very simple really : did he make da ? polcie comissioner ? housing comissioner ?
mircea_popescu: if he didn't he's fucked. and you knoiw he didn't, and you know he got kicked out
asciilifeform: why would i care what his title is
mircea_popescu: past this, it's really just wilful denial.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha.
asciilifeform: i care if he has to break his back in honest wurk or not
asciilifeform: and if not - why not.
mircea_popescu: HE cares what his title is dude. that's what he dedicated his life to : supporting himself through titleage. which he lost. wtf more is there.
asciilifeform: am i to think that he did not embezzle enough usd to live like taleb for his remaining days ?
mircea_popescu: maybe he turned overnight into a successful 0day broker ?
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the plain fact that there isn't half of enough in all of ny public system, recall the piddly sums they were prosecuting ex rankers for ?
asciilifeform: entirely likely that he turned, overnightm into successful dirt-on-his-colleagues broker
mircea_popescu: that doesn't pay.
mircea_popescu: no rat in the history of ratting ever ate well.
mircea_popescu: pay him a visit sometime.
mircea_popescu: not like he lives far off.
asciilifeform: iirc he was pulling in roughly 2x the traditional rate for a programmer in east usa
asciilifeform: (and, more importantly, for doing virtually nothing!)
mircea_popescu: 45 High St, Amherst MA. bring flowers, i don't imagine he'll kick you out. can have a nice cup of coffee.
asciilifeform: to schmucks like /me who barely subsist on what passes for honest work in usa, gavin et al are especially galling.
asciilifeform: even if it is not intuitively clear to mircea_popescu precisely why
mircea_popescu: or the imagination thereof.
mircea_popescu: which is why i suggest contact. it's a truth known since roman antiquity that only truth dispells the fantasms of onanism.
mircea_popescu: which is why they had all the status.
mircea_popescu: statues*
asciilifeform has met one or two of his local 'gavins', and saw precisely what he would expect to see of andresen
funkenstein_: early adopters comparing fiat salaries, news at 11
funkenstein_: g'day m'lords
asciilifeform: l0l what early adopter
asciilifeform has ~0 coin
funkenstein_ might need some dispelling os such fantasms
hanbot wonders why asciilifeform takes it for granted that the turned are also honest self-representatives
phf: i thought early adopters went by way of same in other gold rush situations. "bought pizza for half a pound of gold. later bought car for the other half. life's good mang". very few actually financially literate and with enough foresight for it to not be peanuts (i.e. "fortunes" ~~ 100-200k)
asciilifeform: hanbot: i don't. but i notice that the address mircea_popescu gave does not have an 'apartment #' in it; nor is it in east dc
asciilifeform: or even any place close to as cheap as where i live
assbot: US Standards Institute Moves From Timekeeping to Methamphetamine | Qntra ... ( )
funkenstein_: lmao, you'll keep some real good time on that shit
BingoBoingo: Also looks like has been hijacked to host spamzor articles
funkenstein_: <mircea_popescu> hey weren't you pretending to be a dwarf ? <-- yeah old story involving long dead game, also i don't need to pretend: mental dwarf
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Or have a good time on that shit.
funkenstein_: not really my thing
BingoBoingo: At the very least you can get your kitchen very clean
funkenstein_: in theory yes, in practice not so much
hanbot: asciilifeform so it doesn't "have" an apt number. not like he likely "has" the box at that address, in whatever construction it may be. can make up all kinds of ideas about what people have while it's on paper. what they really own is almost never recognisable from a list.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> << hanbot's node ? << awe f. how i grabbed the wrong ip ... gfdi
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 23:30:19; mod6: asciilifeform: the build we were discussing earlier is now up and running against and seems to be pulling blocks again just fine.
mod6: wait
mod6: 1800 IN A
mod6: what am I missing here. is that hanbots node?
mod6: i thought that was the dulap?
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 00:47:07; scoopbot_revived: US Standards Institute Moves From Timekeeping to Methamphetamine
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 01:17:16; mod6: 1800 IN A
asciilifeform: or rather, one of the 3 i presently maintain
asciilifeform: dulap, yes.
mod6: i think i misunderstand your comment "hanbot's node ?" then. i thought you were trying to indicate that I was syncing against the wrong IP
asciilifeform: mod6: i thought you were speaking of a node that was being built last night
asciilifeform: (hanbot was asking various things re: patches, etc)
mod6: ooh no.
mod6: sorry.
asciilifeform: << this is actually very much sop among folks with access to suppliers, glass, etc.
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 00:48:33; assbot: US Standards Institute Moves From Timekeeping to Methamphetamine | Qntra ... ( )
BingoBoingo: Uncle Al would be very welcome to contribute to Qntra if he ever took a break from disqus
asciilifeform: but from what i know, it is not normally done for profit in the usual sense
asciilifeform: but for more 'silk roady' reasons of 'want dope but no dopewot'
mod6: so I had this build that i created on the 13th: 20150713-v0531-patched-glibc-gentoo-statorBuildScript
asciilifeform: (in no case is the dope cost-competitive with the 'street')
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> but for more 'silk roady' reasons of 'want dope but no dopewot' << Sure but usually they evade detection as they don't light the world on fire. What if NIST dope hit a cesium clock? How many leapseconds would follow
asciilifeform: what if whitehouse kitchen greasefire burned clitler's clit ?
asciilifeform: doesn't happen
asciilifeform: plantations, even, had freestanding kitchens. (i was on an old plantation, and saw this alive, preserved, just last night.) for a reason..
funkenstein_: most addicts use croakers afaik
asciilifeform: wtf is a 'croaker'
mod6: and it sync'd against your dulap with -verifyall all the way up to 365454, then wedged for ~36 hours or so. but this evening, restarted it and continued sync'ing just fine.
mod6: sorry for the delay. lol, had to find block number.
funkenstein_: croaker is a "doctor" - gives "prescription"
asciilifeform: where is the doctor that prescribes meth ?
funkenstein_: slang i picked up from reading Burroughs
asciilifeform: in 1936 ?
mod6: currently on block: height=366125
asciilifeform: time machine ?
funkenstein_: amphetamines given to all age groups these days, just say "ADD" and you're in
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: washington pravda is telling us that this incident involved proper meth
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> where is the doctor that prescribes meth ? << Available as Desoxyn at most pharmacies
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: thought it was banned in usa
funkenstein_: i'm not sure what that extra methyl group gets you
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: fat solubility
BingoBoingo: Not at all, merely Schedule II
BingoBoingo: Prescribed mostly for shithead kids
funkenstein_: ah, so BingoBoingo's friends prefer it?
asciilifeform: at any rate, if any idiot could get meth by getting 'diseased', there would be no mega-contraband market
asciilifeform: (where is the underground 'prozac' market ?)
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Nah. One of the kinds in my boy scout troop back in the day was on it. I'm guessing the profile for a kid that gets Desoxyn is maybe turning them into a hardcore addict at 13 might get them to focus on something.
BingoBoingo: Anyways levomethamphetamine is available over the counter
asciilifeform: go, isomerize.
asciilifeform: << the specifics of the dwelling aside, i am fairly confident that gavin doesn't have to show up to an office and program '9-5+' to get it
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 00:58:33; hanbot: asciilifeform so it doesn't "have" an apt number. not like he likely "has" the box at that address, in whatever construction it may be. can make up all kinds of ideas about what people have while it's on paper. what they really own is almost never recognisable from a list.
asciilifeform: instead, gets sinecure, like clinton
trinque: none of the drugs they prescribe are any fun.
trinque: if you're going to go to the trouble of buying illegal drugs, fuck prozac
asciilifeform: well yes
asciilifeform: hence i suspect that BingoBoingo is mistaken re: 'doctor prescribes'
asciilifeform: i once looked up, technically american doctors can (could?) even prescribe cocaine
asciilifeform: do they ?
trinque: they have some not-as-fun variant of that too
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i once looked up, technically american doctors can (could?) even prescribe cocaine << Usually only prescribed as a local anesthetic
asciilifeform: the strongest, iirc, known.
funkenstein_: benzocaine over the counter
BingoBoingo: Essential for ear, eye, nose, and throat surgeries because vasoconstrictor
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hence i suspect that BingoBoingo is mistaken re: 'doctor prescribes' << They prefer not to prescribe because of rectal exam they get for having patient on it
cazalla: <<< i was prescribed dexamphetamine, nfi if similar but never saw the appeal in eating em like m&m's
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 01:32:16; BingoBoingo: Prescribed mostly for shithead kids
hanbot: asciilifeform the specifics of the dwelling aside, i am fairly confident that gavin doesn't have to show up to an office and program '9-5+' to get it << no, he just has to behave like a proper shitconduit. there's a lot of ways to gain various degrees of access to things, and most of them are unappealing.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Nah that's a few steps down
hanbot: <asciilifeform> (hanbot was asking various things re: patches, etc) << still wip
trinque: I took an adderall xr once and had an utterly terrible night, took notes on my entire calculus book
trinque: because you know, I really needed to
trinque: in pen no less
cazalla: <<< not cocaine but i have mentioned before some doctors working in depression clinics here prescribe ketamine
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 01:37:58; asciilifeform: i once looked up, technically american doctors can (could?) even prescribe cocaine
cazalla: charge well for it as well, something like $1000 a course
trinque: iirc mdma is now being used in some PTSD cases here
cazalla: we never did get the florida style pain clinics here though
trinque: as well it should be
BingoBoingo: Now ketamine is great.
trinque: I don't particularly like being that far from knowing where I left reality
BingoBoingo: Also merely Schedule III
funkenstein_: so many schedules, so little time
BingoBoingo: trinque: Too expensive to go that far. If you want to go that far there's cough syrup
assbot: Sipa what have you done ? ... ( )
trinque: heh
trinque: salvia though, enjoyed the shit out of it
trinque: whole thing was utter nonsense, including which way was up
BingoBoingo: I planted a bunch of different plants from the salvia genus in the front yard this year. None are recommended for recreational consumption.
funkenstein_: nice work, how do they grow?
BingoBoingo: Vertically with nice flower spikes
BingoBoingo: Also big leaves.
cazalla: trinque, i'll pass having watched numerous "bad salvia trip" videos on youtube
BingoBoingo: Kept throwing up fresh stalks of flowers all the way from early may when I planted them to a couple weeks ago on the purle ones. White ones less established by still flowering and growing
mod6: asciilifeform: so we'd like to have dumpblock go into the release if possible -- both dump and eat need a bunch of testing and I've got some automated test scenarios working around dumpblock already. but I ran into the seg fault lastnight with too few parameters, i think i fixed it with this simple change:
mod6: thoughts?
mod6: i have a replacement patch ready to go if you're alright with that change.
trinque: cazalla: those are the kind of people that fight when an undertow grabs you at the beach
trinque: you're headed out, back later
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Look at Reddit's pathetic attempt to head off Euloria
assbot: [Request] Bitcoin economy plugin for a minecraft server. : Bitcoin ... ( )
cazalla: trinque, not the sort of people you'd want to share a beer with let alone anything else
mod6: <+asciilifeform> (hanbot was asking various things re: patches, etc) << ahhh right. hanbot, did you have any luck getting any of the patches applied?
hanbot: mod6 not yet, still working on the, which so far won't build 'cause i haven't sorted the dependencies yet. i'll for sure update here once back at it.
mod6: ok, you're on ubuntu right?
BingoBoingo: To build stator on "Linux Mint" and ubuntu like I had to first hunt down and install the compilers, because why would a *nix need to ship with compilers
mod6: if anyone has built this on v0.5.3.1-RELEASE feel free to pitch in here...
BingoBoingo: Craptop's synced up to block 279xxx on stator
funkenstein_: it built for me on ubuntu with build-essential
mod6: but on debian, which is similar in a way to ubuntu with `apt-get`, you need to first update apt-get (anyone correct me if I'm wrong): `apt-get update` and `apt-get upgrade`
mod6: then this is what we used to get the deps setup on debian 6 -- the package names might be similar on ubuntu:
hanbot: mod6 yeah, doing this on an old ubuntu laptop.
mod6: oh.
mod6: hmm
hanbot: package names should be the same, yeah. only package i haven't been able to find in .deb form is glibc-static, see
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 01:28:32; hanbot: so .deb package checked against .rpm file list shows libc_stubs.a missing, the other eleven are present. debian says no .deb packages contain this guy. i'm assuming i need it. still errorful after grabbing everything else here (errorflurry: ). doesn't look like that missing library has anything to do with it, but prolly
hanbot: but! i have to get openssl, bdb, & boost sorted first, for which i plan on using ben_vulpes ' ak47 doohickey.
mod6: you know... it looks to me from that dpaste that it might not be finding the openssl/boost headers
mod6: i dunno, maybe im wrong.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol k
assbot: Dante's Divine Comedy 'offensive and should be banned' - Telegraph ... ( )
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell diana_coman i found the snag : CHAT_SYSTEM_BASE in chat options for it to be logged.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You don't understand. They are both World Building games. Why should actual economy make Euloria BEtter!!!HERPITY!!!
hanbot: mod6 right, so i'ma use relevant snippets of (will not compile release itself with this), then see, will report.
assbot: [BTC-dev] another script to build reference implementations ... ( )
BingoBoingo: Is anyone else hoping for cheap open-channel SSDs. Seem like they would be great for raid 1+5
mod6: hanbot: actually make sure to use this one: 000130.html -- the original one was setup for macos
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i think there was already minecraft bitcoin casino or something like this a few years back, shitty game for autists anyway
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Yeah. Dude ran to. Exit scam.
cazalla: ah, really? i don't remember hearing that part
BingoBoingo: Minecraft seems to mostly attract small children and autists. A very dangerous combination... legally
BingoBoingo: cazalla: It was a while back. Dude also ran an operation called "BitAds"
BingoBoingo: Pre-Qntra so not really news
assbot: Most awkward moments at Minecon 2013 - YouTube ... ( )
mircea_popescu: god damned... so it turns out "modern" bios came up with the idea to introduce an "auto" ps/2 initialization, which means that if the ps2 mouse is present at boot, all works as expected, but if ps/2 mouse is not present at boot ONCE then the mouse will never again work and you're more than welcome to figure out what the shit happened.
mircea_popescu: who does these things!
mircea_popescu: "faster post time". fuck your mother it's unmeasurably faster. how long it takes to init ps/2, 3 microseconds ?
mircea_popescu: "oh but everyone uses usb mice!!1". no, actually, they don't. look at the rf profile of the usb vs ps2 sometime and figure it out.
mats: iirc Apple is responsible for 'EFI'
mircea_popescu: woudln't surprise me.
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 01:51:42; mod6: asciilifeform: so we'd like to have dumpblock go into the release if possible -- both dump and eat need a bunch of testing and I've got some automated test scenarios working around dumpblock already. but I ran into the seg fault lastnight with too few parameters, i think i fixed it with this simple change:
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00053176 = 28.1833 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: << reminder to experimenters - given as this is a ~static~ binary, it oughta run on any reasonable linux, once built
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 02:00:34; mod6: ok, you're on ubuntu right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00051664 = 14.6467 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: so conceivably no need to build it again and again on every single machine you own
asciilifeform: (esp. if you insist on owning boxes running cripplex unixen, e.g., 'ubuntu')
mircea_popescu: worth testing this theory
mircea_popescu: with all the shit we've had to go through with silently pseudostatic binaries
asciilifeform: the one and only real test...
asciilifeform: i didn't even discover the pseudostaticity of 'pseudostatic' bin until attempted a pogo run
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what bios is this
mircea_popescu: assus' new uefi shit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28250 @ 0.00053178 = 15.0228 BTC [+]
asciilifeform surprised that mircea_popescu isn't baking 'coreboot' (aka linuxbios) for his iron
mircea_popescu: why would i run the same thing everywhere.
asciilifeform: it doesn't have to be same!
asciilifeform: 1,001 config flagz.
mircea_popescu: aaanyway.
asciilifeform: also will note that ps/2 is plenty 'loud'.
mircea_popescu: << mentions of a certain car are in the logs.
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 00:42:40; phf: i thought early adopters went by way of same in other gold rush situations. "bought pizza for half a pound of gold. later bought car for the other half. life's good mang". very few actually financially literate and with enough foresight for it to not be peanuts (i.e. "fortunes" ~~ 100-200k)
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 00:46:05; asciilifeform: or even any place close to as cheap as where i live
asciilifeform: what of it
mircea_popescu: < "i think maybe i'm a little fast but you can't really tell"
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 00:50:02; funkenstein_: lmao, you'll keep some real good time on that shit
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ so you tried eulora yet ?
mircea_popescu: cuz we need more miners.
mircea_popescu: especially the manic kind.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: When is hosting sources for the cal3d and crystalspace dependencies?
mircea_popescu: ah right. ima get on that liek right nao.
BingoBoingo: I just updated my system this week so the dependencies I compiled at their wrong version last week were purged.
asciilifeform: 'NIST Building 236 was previously used for combustion research but is now used for scientific research, Port told the AP. The Drug Enforcement Administration is investigating the case jointly with the MCPD.'
assbot: 2 Killed, 8 Injured in Louisiana Theater Shooting | NBC4 Washington ... ( )
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> wat << OpenBSD doesn't maintain binary compatibility between releases. They do stuff like kill deterministic rand() between 5.6 and 5.7
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what, kernel abi changed ?
asciilifeform: or just libc
BingoBoingo: In this case it seems the kernel abi
asciilifeform: what can i say, build along with kernel then
asciilifeform: or even into it.
funkenstein_: mircea_popescu, it looks awesome from your stories, i don't usually play games with graphics these days but time to change that methinks
BingoBoingo: It's what I did when I updated this time. Between Kernel, userland, and stuff I like only ~6-8 hours of compiling
asciilifeform: wai wat?!!
asciilifeform: on what?
BingoBoingo: AMD E-350
asciilifeform blows dust off e350
BingoBoingo: Like an Intel atom, but with 2 cores and GPU
asciilifeform: iirc 'atom' was 32bit only
asciilifeform: so no, not as crippled
BingoBoingo: Ah, this is AMD64 all the way
BingoBoingo: I will say 5.7 has much better radeon GPU driver than 5.6
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: these work great under 'coreboot'
asciilifeform: give it a shot
asciilifeform: it is pretty easy to build
asciilifeform: if your bios eeprom is of the removable eight-legged kind, you can even buy one with room for bitcoin proper
BingoBoingo: I might have to when 5.8 comes around. It is a Lenovo X120e running an Intel wireless card
asciilifeform: portable?
asciilifeform: never once seen one with removable eeprom
asciilifeform: (unless you own a hot air station)
BingoBoingo: Dunno if ROm is detachable, but machine is portable
BingoBoingo: Never really identified the ROM in the many times I took this bitch apart to replace fan
asciilifeform: if portable, then forget it
BingoBoingo: The only thing that's broken during any of the disassemplies of this machine so far was the connector to the internal speakers. I consider that an improvement.
assbot: Nanette Packard ... ( )
BingoBoingo: mats: She could get it
asciilifeform: wai wat
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: wat nao?
mats: it's too bad there's no field for what they did to end up a convict
asciilifeform: aha that
mats: I bet this one killed her husband
asciilifeform: theoretically - this is public record
asciilifeform: could provide service!
asciilifeform: index'em
assbot: Jennifer Richmond 156562 ... ( )
cazalla: i use to write a few girls from that site BingoBoingo, inevitably they all asked for money
assbot: The Accused Madam: The Unique and Selective Prosecution of Jennifer Richmond ... ( )
cazalla: actually, it was write an inmate but similar shit
asciilifeform: how do you know they even existed.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: That's whar girls do
BingoBoingo: That Jeniffer actually seems like the sort mircea_popescu respects
BingoBoingo: cazalla asciilifeform: This is why you check the news to make sure they got arrested for something cool
cazalla: lol yeah, i'd scope them out on google prior to writing
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: << mine. the socketed eeprom is under the white 'e350m1' sticker above the pcie slot.
BingoBoingo: Also apparently St Clair county judges hit maxint and rolled over. Case continued till late September still at evidentiary hearing
cazalla: can't blame a guy for wanting his own bonnie parker
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nice board. Real SATA and Real DIMMS
mats: the girls just wanna buy some Nivea lotion and candy at the commissary
BingoBoingo: The Jennifer Richmond link at blogspot, even though on blogspot seems to accurately reflect many aspects of pisshole US courts
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: cheap, and 100% blobless-linuxable and 'coreboot'able. what's not to like.
asciilifeform: not so cheap it can be dropped from a plane, no
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: My only complaint is hard to cool in a portable while keeping bitcoin in sync
asciilifeform: and will only get rare, collectible, when amd is done dying
mod6: asciilifeform: re: << looks fine. << want me to send this up then?
asciilifeform: mod6: i'd prefer if you patched my patch
asciilifeform: (or the output thereof)
asciilifeform: there is, imho, never any reason to duplicate lines in patches
asciilifeform: multiplies the work of reading, for no real gain
cazalla: <<< anyway, you want their mug shots, not glamour shots, this is how i thinned the field when writing heh
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: i'd prefer if you patched my patch << huh, ok. i kinda figured it'd be less messy the other way around. but... sure.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In Lenovo's X140e they have a version they brand on AMD's A4 line which seems like a die shrink of the E-350. I can't find anything on Liberating it though.
asciilifeform: mod6: patch the result of my patch
asciilifeform: ought to be very short
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i see very little appeal in screwing with portables
asciilifeform: if you carry one, as a necessary evil, to earn bread with - that's one thing
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mod6: patch the result of my patch << So if I figure out "diff" should I submit mintxrelayfee flag against, stator, or specify all preceeding patches.
BingoBoingo: Portable is necessary evil to me because moves.
BingoBoingo: Craptop syncing stator on mint may as well be desktop, just going to run as fixed node when sync'd, this machine though moves
asciilifeform: craptops, in my experience, aren't really built for 24/7 duty
asciilifeform: esp. under load.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: patch the result of my patch << will do!
phf: re atom, it is 32bit only. i tried running stator on atom board with openbsd, it overheats, deferring until i figure out a cooling solution
asciilifeform: phf: what board ?
BingoBoingo: Well machine presently on, the X120e, I like to much to call craptop. Ran 2010 vintage games when on Winblows.
phf: soekris net6501-50
asciilifeform: mod6: overall idea is, 1) to minimize the total count of lines for readers to read 2) preserve chronology - 'mr x did this, then y found mistake, fixed, ...'
mats: BingoBoingo: how about an 'ultra small form factor' machine?
asciilifeform has always been astonished at how overpriced 'soekris' product line is
asciilifeform: and i mean factor of 4-5x
BingoBoingo: mats: As I use portable integrated display and kbd necessary. 'ultra small form factor' becomes attractive to me when very cheap colo offered. Otherwise display places natural minimum size
assbot: net5501-60 Board only - Products ... ( )
assbot: PC Engines apu1d4 product file ... ( )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: soekris is popular among BSD folk because reputation
asciilifeform: 'how would you like less of everything, plus intel turd, plus 2x the cost'
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, i remeber reading this in the logs
BingoBoingo: net5501-60 Board is probably too little processor for reasonable bitcoin, especially in portable
asciilifeform: and 'engines' isn't even an esp. cheap vendor
BingoBoingo: E350 routinely pulls 25-33% CPU use staying sync'd not including new block spikes
asciilifeform: hey, incitatus is a 'celeron'
asciilifeform: circa 2007ish
BingoBoingo: Or so corenetworks says
asciilifeform: let's put it this way, it is certainly no faster than one.
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile X120e with E350 sits on knee while I smoke cigarettes in garage (maybe should stop doing this)
phf: asciilifeform: fwiw i've not tried pcengines yet, but i might get it for an additional openbsd machine on your recommendation. compared to soekris though a lot of boards that i tried have dodgy reliability. i.e. random crashes. like BingoBoingo said though, this might just be a reputation impression
BingoBoingo: phf: You edit login.conf on openbsd to free up ram, yes?
asciilifeform: phf: i have not personally tried openbsd on them. but note that if you buy the 'apu' model, must also buy the metal tin. there are no screwholes for heat sink. it is pressed on by the board mounting upside-down in its native tin case.
BingoBoingo: Heat has always been the real enemy
asciilifeform: phf: also note that it is 'headless'
asciilifeform: !up sueastside
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phf: BingoBoingo: i haven't, but that board specific board has 1gb of ram, and i'm hardly using up 200mb right now
phf: but i'll read the mans
asciilifeform: exercise for alert reader (tm) : write a program which generates 'girls' for BingoBoingo to send money to.
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mats: women's prisons sound like an extra long trip at the country club
cazalla: asciilifeform, you can write with zero intention of sending money, replies usually stop by the 3rd or 4th letter although a few girls wrote me 10 pagers
mats: fucking volleyball
assbot: JL: When Whiggers Attack! ... ( )
cazalla: i had one inmate write to say the warden or whatever had just informed her her father had died while she was writing the letter (requested money same letter).. so i scan the obits for where she grew up and it was there, but letters stopped after the next letter
BingoBoingo: The Federal prison in Greenville actually closer to me than county's own jail
BingoBoingo: Southern Illinois is truly the Australia of the 21st century
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: My chess coach during my youth was actually a salaried chaplin there. Was part of the team that gave Timmy his last rights.
asciilifeform: wasn't that in indiana ?
BingoBoingo: It was
BingoBoingo: Terra Haute, also reasonable drive from here
asciilifeform: and wai wut, you get >1 priest ?
asciilifeform: spiffy!
BingoBoingo: They brought in a team though to avoid objections.
BingoBoingo: This is 'Murica. Stimulants are hard to get, but damn it you will get your spiritual needs addressed in prison.
assbot: Google Maps ... ( )
BingoBoingo: Also yes once again county fair this week is happening practically in my front yard.
BingoBoingo: Combine demolition derby tonight.
BingoBoingo: Once you've seen it twice you've seen pretty much all the outcomes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I actually go to the Greeneville DMV usually because no waiting. If wait then I go to the Pinckneyville DMV because even less waiting
cazalla: BingoBoingo, end the evening with a fireworks display?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Nope
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i see some changes and i don't want to publicize the wrong package so this will have to wait until chetty shows up. im making it a top priority, should be hours.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Unless if that is a suggestion, then maybe
cazalla: BingoBoingo, it is how country fair held where i grew up always ended
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Cool, because my entire concern is wrong package. Especially given the current host's reputations
assbot: Google Maps ... ( )
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Doesn't end until Sunday. Used to run Sunday to Saturday. Now Runs Tuesday through Sunday.
decimation: BingoBoingo: isn't there a big prison near Terra Haute?
BingoBoingo: decimation: Yeah, that's where the Feds reintroduced the death penalty
mircea_popescu: honestly this entire bs caught me unaware in spite of yeah shoulda known better. somehow assumed wtf, it's foss, will be ok.
mircea_popescu: anyway. will keep mirrors of signed copies.
decimation: Terra Haute is kinda an armpit but Rose Hulman is nice
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ it only has a little gfx anyway
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You ever Google Maps the former Prison at Tamms? Greenville is merely Federal Medium security. Tamms was Illinois own Super Max until Amnesty International shut it down.
mircea_popescu: "Here I am! I am a single, attractive, outgoing, " ....
mircea_popescu: bitch... you're in prison!
mircea_popescu: outwhat ?
asciilifeform: ingoing.
mircea_popescu: she also likes to travel.
mircea_popescu: "ok, let's go to dubai" "k ima ask my guard. uh... can we go to block B instead ?"
asciilifeform: who said prisoners don't travel
asciilifeform: in usa, they often get shipped, bound and gagged, in a bus, across the country
mircea_popescu: how much travel to courthouses do you think i engage in?
asciilifeform: often for no special reason
asciilifeform: usedtabe called 'bus therapy', i'm told
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> in usa, they often get shipped, bound and gagged, in a bus, across the country << When traveling in search of fiat income I see many.
BingoBoingo: Not long ago on I-64 there was a multi-prison bus accident near Nashville Illinois. Fun reports.
mod6: i think the turdolator ate my email
asciilifeform: iirc, in us - just as in su - it is not permissible to open a prisonwagen outside of the wire. and if it burns in a wreck - tough cookies for the occupants..
decimation: many of these prisons are in rural areas with nothing else going on; most of the guards are multiple generations in the job
mircea_popescu: << basically this is the argument against sr economicality all over again then ?
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 01:33:14; asciilifeform: (where is the underground 'prozac' market ?)
mod6: ;;later tell jurov can you check the btc-dev list and see if I have an email stuck in there?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 19-07-2014 01:48:06; decimation: "Buffeting its load of tightly packed bodies, the gaily painted orange and blue truck drove on through the streets, passed a railway station and stopped at a crossroads. There, halted by a traffic-light, stood the dark-red car belonging to the Moscow correspondent of the Paris newspaper LIBERATION, on his way to a hockey match at the Dynamo Stadium. On the side of the van the correspondent read the words
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ended up mostly sending prisoners to hospitals in St Louis Missouri and Springfield Illinois. More Urgent cases... Went the extra hundred or so miles to Springfield.
asciilifeform: eyheyhey
mircea_popescu: what's the couint by now
asciilifeform: ' many' keys '...have you killed today!'
BingoBoingo: 100 who wants to write the qntra?
mircea_popescu: 485121325 digits
mircea_popescu: that's not updated is it
asciilifeform: it moves when the motor stops
mircea_popescu: Submissions: 1001109 << ehehe
asciilifeform: (which is probably next thursday at this rate)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Would you like to grace qntra with news on the 100 keys factored?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo may have the honour
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30042 @ 0.00053178 = 15.9757 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: i'm about to turn in for the night
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 03:52:52; mircea_popescu: << basically this is the argument against sr economicality all over again then ?
mircea_popescu: you just said bs pills market doesn't exist.
asciilifeform: appears (from my admittedly distant perch) to exist for certain pills and not others ?
asciilifeform: and for the wotless, nothing exists but the embezzled labware (or sr, when there was one)
decimation: not a big street market for warfarin
BingoBoingo: Pills are like unix. Market gets more interesting for less documented and harder to accomplish.
mircea_popescu: << actually this is a fairly legitimate way to try and hinder btc mempool propagation from the usg side.
assbot: Logged on 24-07-2015 01:44:48; BingoBoingo:
mircea_popescu: course we nuked dns meanwhile, but the power rangers will have problems.
mircea_popescu: more "ba parachute jit" stuff.
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