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assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.020499 = 0.164 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 95 @ 0.02069 = 1.9656 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.02069 = 3.1035 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0201 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.020001 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.019818 = 0.1189 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.019815 = 0.9313 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0207 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.019811 = 0.5745 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02020001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.020489 = 0.2049 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2729 @ 0.00069892 = 1.9074 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02049 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.02069 = 0.7655 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [+]
jurov: inhies, go to #bitcoin-assets-trades then
Chaaang-Noi: we dont stfu, you gtfo :)
inhies: jurov: im already there
inhies: its not that the talking interupts the trade data
inhies: its that the talking is fucking stupid
Chaaang-Noi: you mean like what you just said?
inhies: yes
inhies: exactly
Chaaang-Noi: silver took a more than 5% hit out the gate this morning, crazy
ThickAsThieves: he's trolling he'd drunk
Chaaang-Noi: nothing wrong with a bit of drunk trolling here and there :)
Chaaang-Noi: TAT i think we fail at auction
ThickAsThieves: price escaped us
ThickAsThieves: i sold some AM for 2.19512 earlier
inhies: you auctioning am shares?
ThickAsThieves: new record
Chaaang-Noi: what exchange?
ThickAsThieves: random bf market buy
Chaaang-Noi: maybe an ooops
Chaaang-Noi: i sold a good lot at 2.089
Chaaang-Noi: well as much as id like to stay and fuck around im off to burma
ThickAsThieves: 'can u help me out understand the whole thing about buying shares of the asicminer , i see that u offer some PT shares, im not very frindly with all that, i wanna know how to make money with those since im looking to invest some btc around.'
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02069 = 0.0414 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.134999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.134999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.108 = 0.54 BTC [-]
parseval: I finally finished parsing all of the Gox trade data up through April
inhies: fun
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02069 = 0.1035 BTC [+]
inhies: i downloaded it all from bitcoin charts the other day
inhies: took like 48 hours
inhies: and resulted in a 150mb sqlite3 db
parseval: Nice.. this is about 448mb in a postgres database, with ORM wrappings
inhies: sounds complicated(er)
inhies: i need to re-do my scraper
inhies: and get the data from gox itself
inhies: before the DHS steals their servers
furuknap: What are you guys using it for?
parseval: I'm going to use it in my charts, initially. I want to see the dollar value of these securities over time
inhies: magikz
parseval: eg, use the historical value for BTC against historical trade price
furuknap: Ah... Sierracharts has some nice analysis features. If you do C++, it shouldn't be too hard to map that there. I've been pondering writing a BTCT trade engine module, but I realized it's 20 years since I wrote C++, so I skipped it :-)
parseval: This way we can identify which stocks are most susceptible to currency risk
parseval: Sierracharts is nice, but I'd rather make something web based
furuknap: I see.
parseval: It doesn't run on Linux anyway
inhies: i use it for backtesting my bot
inhies: parseval: what do you use for charting?
parseval: I guess I could try it in wine though
inhies: i raelly like highcharts
parseval: Highstock
inhies: but the flexibility they offer also seems pretty limiting at times
furuknap: Wine or VM.
inhies: parseval: oh you run that one chart site yea?
inhies: ..maybe
parseval: Yeah, that's just a dev server, nothing too fancy yet
inhies: fuck
inhies: too much drinking
inhies: parseval: link?
inhies: ah yes yes
inhies: this is the site i was thinking of
inhies: good work man
furuknap: It's actually very fancy because it does exactly what someone needs. I like it.
inhies: iirc your server caches the data from the exchanges
inhies: is that bitfunder or btctc?
parseval: btc-tc
inhies: sorry
inhies: just saw that on the homepage
inhies: bummer
inhies: i was going to ask how you parsed the js object that bitfunder serves
inhies: but.. nevermind :)
parseval: thank you, furknap
inhies: your charts are quite fast
furuknap: He posted that in the AM-thread a bit back.
parseval: No, not yet.. I think the largest dataset is less than 150k
inhies: im working on a web interface for my bot using highstock
inhies: any plans on offering a candlestick chart?
inhies: with adjustable periods?
parseval: I've been planning to add one, I hadn't thought about adjustable periods yet, but I like the idea
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.4899 = 0.9798 BTC [+]
inhies: without adjustable periouds you just end up with a candlestick chart like havelock has
inhies: like a daily candlestick
inhies: which is alright i guess, but hourly, daily, etc would be nice
inhies: not sure hwo you could cleanly integrate that in with the standard highstock range selector
inhies: (1 day, 1 week, 1 month, etc)
parseval: It would need a page reload, or possibly some ajax pulling of a new piece of series data, because it'd essentially be a different series on the chart
inhies: yea
inhies: you wouldnt really even need to do any crazy ajax
inhies: just more parsing of the standard data
inhies: to group it in to perioids
inhies: and then make a new series
inhies: then just swap out the series on the chart when a link is clicked or something
inhies: also, my mtgox USD db has 5070757 rows
parseval: I've only got 4,745k, but that is only counting up to April 29th
parseval: I need to go pull the rest of the data from gox still
inhies: tahts odd
inhies: mine is through like may 13th or something
inhies: but still
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.4115 = 10.2875 BTC [+]
inhies: it shoudlnt be that far off
inhies: im WAY ahead
inhies: parseval: you just pulled trades yea?
parseval: Yeah
inhies: so did i
inhies: what was your start date?
inhies: also, this is what ive been playing with http://jsfiddle.net/5m9Nx/14/
inhies: EMAs on the charts
parseval: July 2010
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 149 @ 0.0205 = 3.0545 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02079 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02069 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.02079997 = 0.312 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.02069 = 0.4759 BTC [+]
parseval: I like those jsfiddles
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02089999 = 0.1045 BTC [+]
inhies: yea i think thats when mine started too
inhies: if not july, then august for sure
inhies: not sure why i have so much more data than you though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.02089999 = 0.1254 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 62 @ 0.0209 = 1.2958 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.02093874 = 0.2303 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 406 @ 0.0211512 = 8.5874 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0211512 = 0.1904 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 56 @ 0.0209 = 1.1704 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 44 @ 0.02069 = 0.9104 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6136 @ 0.00069819 = 4.2841 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2864 @ 0.00069772 = 1.9983 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 27 @ 0.021512 = 0.5808 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 36 @ 0.0206 = 0.7416 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02051 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 963 @ 0.0204 = 19.6452 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 2.06 = 18.54 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 88 @ 0.02069 = 1.8207 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.2499 = 2.499 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 36 @ 0.0214 = 0.7704 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.93086, Best ask: 122.78688, Bid-ask spread: 0.85602, Last trade: 121.89291, 24 hour volume: 24445.74160237, 24 hour low: 119.50000, 24 hour high: 124.50101, 24 hour vwap: 121.80684
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.011001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.011 BTC [-]
furuknap: I updated my article on why Mining investments is always a bet that prices will drop. Added a new question: http://coin.furuknap.net/why-investing-in-mining-is-always-a-bet-that-prices-will-drop/
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.0101 BTC [-]
furuknap: Can't really argue against math, but damn, people keep trying.
mircea_popescu: i don't think that's very well presented.
furuknap: What isn't?
mircea_popescu: while its true that for any purchase of mining hardware there's a price point where it becomes unprofitable,
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.49 = 3.92 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's nevertheless not exactly true that buying gear is a bet on price dropping.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [+]
furuknap: The article shows that a dropping price always yields a much higher profit than mining.
furuknap: *than mining alone
mircea_popescu: let's put it this way : it's true that a slut is a much better catch than a priss on any blind dating sit down
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.021512 = 0.043 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it doesn't follow that people going on blind dates are betting on sluts.
furuknap: That's not the argument from the article either. In fact, it's the exact opposite, because you're bringing your own dame to the party :-)
furuknap: Well, that's fine too, if you swing in that direction...
mircea_popescu: is buying a cup of coffee in the morning a bet that fiat will collapse by noon ?
furuknap: If you can resell it at noon and fiat will rise again, yes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9347 @ 0.00069867 = 6.5305 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yeah well, that's the problem.
furuknap: Please elaborate.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0215 = 0.1075 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 28 @ 0.021512 = 0.6023 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you've come up with an edge case and are phrasing the situation in terms of that edge case.
mircea_popescu: it's still an edge case.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8373 @ 0.00069772 = 5.842 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2792 @ 0.00069733 = 1.9469 BTC [-]
furuknap: You mean by using unrealistic numbers? The case presented is intended to simplify the scenario because it is easier to see when you don't need to argue with stuff like "well, my postage is cheap so selling yields more profit than that" etc.
mircea_popescu: no, i don't mean by using unrelisting numbers.
furuknap: Then I'm not following you.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.021512 = 2.1512 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0211 = 0.1055 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.021 = 0.21 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: is getting married a bet that your wife-to-be has an unknown uncle in argentina who will leave her a billion dollar inheritance ?
furuknap: No? Definitely not sure I'm following you, unless you're talking about a wife being a commodity that can be resold at a lower price point and you have to pay to get her.
mircea_popescu: ok. inasmuch as getting married isn;t a bet on some contingent future event
mircea_popescu: buying mining gear isn't a bet on some contingent future event.
furuknap: That doesn't follow at all. Getting married is not an investment that can be resold.
mircea_popescu: that's an irrelevant difference.
furuknap: Mining equipment is such a commodity. In fact, that's why I used the currency trick in the first section.
inhies: but
inhies: hrm
inhies: you can prett ymuch promise that mining rewards will go down
mircea_popescu: i can't discern if your motivation is to understand what you did wrong or to show the world how clever you are. which is it ?
furuknap: I'm trying to understand what I did wrong, definitely. Talking about getting married as an investment doesn't do that.
furuknap: inhies: Mining isn't actually part of the scenario at all, but is elaborated in the questions at the end.
mircea_popescu: ok. any one thing, no matter what thing you pick, has some directly connected bits and some contingent bits.
inhies: furuknap: yea i see
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0208 = 0.208 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.0207 = 0.3105 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 299 @ 0.0206 = 6.1594 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: as far as mining is concerned, difficulty is directly connected. the btc/fiat rate is contingent.
furuknap: True.
mircea_popescu: presenting any definite activity in terms of it being "A bet on X arbitrary contingency" is a peculiar and not particularly useful manner of speech.
inhies: furuknap: i see teh problem
mircea_popescu: you could as well say that buying mining gear is a bet on the aliens showing up and wanting to buy it for infinite money.
inhies: your blog post is not well presented because mircea_popescu didn't write it
furuknap: Ah, you're arguing about the wording. That's fine. The article is trying to show that in the case of a price drop, a miner gains more coins by holding gear. Difficulty isn't relevant here because mining isn't part of the equation.
mircea_popescu: well, you seemed to interested to know why people are throwing a fit avbout it.
furuknap: Yup, I get what you're saying about that :-)
mircea_popescu: it's the wording. any one miner knows he's not betting on THAT. so you'll get a lot of misdirected protestation
mircea_popescu: othe rthan that, sure, btc going up actually hurts mining investments.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as the mining rigs are fiat items pretty much.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.0205 = 0.246 BTC [-]
furuknap: I see. I'm fine with using provocative wording to cause a reaction. People tend to remember (if not agree) with statements that strongly contradict their perception of reality.
mircea_popescu: this is true, and i do it all the time myself.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it helps if you contradict something germane to the issue rather than something random, i think.
furuknap: I'm not sure it is as random as that. I wrote the article based on a lot of questions asked on the Reddit forums and people universally tended to completely ignore the effect of price fluctuations of their gear. One miner had just bought around 50 GPUs and hadn't realized that when the price of LTC dropped, he actually earned more from just having that gear than from mining.
mircea_popescu: this may also be true.
mircea_popescu: truth of the matter is miners are so far away from any sort of financial understanding it's probably wasted effort to debate which of their dumbass notions should be contradicted etc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 512 @ 0.0205 = 10.496 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it certainly wasn't well presented seeing how nobody got it at the time.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00069571 = 14.7491 BTC [-]
furuknap: That is, and I'm not joking, the topic of my next article :-) Miners have a limited understanding of finance, just as financial people have a limited understanding of mining. When I talk to miners, they seem to argue that "just holding coins is really bad if the price drops while a miner can always resell his hardware" and not understanding anything about hedges in finance.
mircea_popescu: myeah. that's why i've made the futures etc.
mircea_popescu: really slow uptake. i guess that's what you get when something starts as a hobbist market : hobbists.
furuknap: When I talk to financial people, they tend to argue that "well, buying hardware is so much of a hassle, and what if it breaks? You're left with nothing!" not realizing how a miner with some hardwre competence can fix or replace hardware as easily as they purchase an option or future.
mircea_popescu: nobody's fixing much of asics, but anyway.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0214 = 0.107 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.059999 BTC [+]
furuknap: ASICs is a specialized piece of hardware that doesn't really have any resell value after a relatively short time. GPUs on the other hand has resale value, can be fixed, tuned, and easily replaced, and in some cases, it can even make sense to have a few spares laying around because unused cards don't depreciate much and thus isn't an asset cost.
furuknap: Have you considered adding futures and options on LTC too?
mircea_popescu: not really.
furuknap: A lot of mining operations popping up on LTC now could greatly benefit from hedging against price fluctuations. A fund that does LTC mining combined with a sound hedging strategy could really make a killing.
mircea_popescu: i'm a monomaniac sort of guy. i idle in one irc channel only. i handle one cryptocurrency only.
mircea_popescu: if i ever list ltc it will be because i'm moving off btc.
furuknap: I understand. Maybe someone else will jump on it, then :-)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.111 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1344 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.13483 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 2.13484 = 27.7529 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.139491 = 6.4185 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.146 = 6.438 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.146 = 10.73 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.1485 = 6.4455 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 2.15 = 19.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.16999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.16999 = 10.85 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1795 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.1795 = 10.8975 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.02085 = 0.1668 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.1798 = 10.899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 2.1798 = 23.9778 BTC [+]
furuknap: Geez-us.
inhies: to the moon!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 2.1799 = 50.1377 BTC [+]
furuknap: This isn't going to end well...
inhies: noep
inhies: lol
inhies: lots of auctions
inhies: people want out of the bubble now
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.1799 = 21.799 BTC [+]
furuknap: I hope this buyer has a lot of spare money and really, really doesn't mind losing it.
mircea_popescu: so basically you hope asicminer gets whales too
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.18 BTC [+]
furuknap: Actually, I hope this buyer doesn't get burned more than they can survive.
ericmuys_: furuknap: what's the difference saying that at 2.0 rather than 1.0 other than psychology?
furuknap: The major difference is that there is no fundamental value of AM to support such a high price. At 1.0, the value is higher than the price. At 2.0 the price is higher than the value.
mircea_popescu: i don't see it.
pizzaman1337: ASICMINER was discussed at one of the panels at bitcoin2013 earlier today, this could be a VC getting around to dumping some money in
furuknap: Most likely, the thing that has driven the price up 0.7 in the previous coupld of weeks is that people see the huge dividends, which cannot possibly continue.
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 yeah, in pt shares. i see it /sarcasm
mircea_popescu: furuknap i'll tell you what has driven the price :
mircea_popescu: there's a crowd of idiots who want to invest in-crowd.
furuknap: It could very well be that someone overheard that a VC might enter and thought the tender would be higher than market.
mircea_popescu: the good news is that back in 2011 they had about 2mn btc, then in 2012 they had about 100k
mircea_popescu: and by now they're stuck with about 10k or so
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02085 = 0.1043 BTC [+]
furuknap: Oh, I know. The herd thing is dangerous. I just hope it doesn't taint BTC assets in general as bubble shares. I fear the train may have left for AM.
mircea_popescu: you're talking to the one guy who prevented that back when it actually had a chance.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't worry by now.
furuknap: I worry because others are greedy. I try to be greedy when others worry.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.18 BTC [+]
inhies: furuknap: i like that quote
inhies: the actual quote though, not your version :p
mircea_popescu: "My partner and I had reservations for 6:45. By 9:30, we still hadn't received our pizza."
furuknap: Heh, good ole WB has a lot of things right.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.6 = 3.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0006839 = 3.4195 BTC [-]
furuknap: Assbot really need to show options in a special way.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.179999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7004 @ 0.00068075 = 4.768 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0214 = 0.214 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00067 = 6.566 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 5 @ 0.014999 = 0.075 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 110 @ 0.02085 = 2.2935 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.16 = 4.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.6 = 4.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0061 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000666 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
ericmuys_: why can't the dividends continue? this thing didn't just start rising, it's been rising for months with consistently good dividends. what are you going to pull out and put it into? sdice? the funny thing about the dividends is friedcat could cash out as the price is rising and pay that as a dividend and it would be insignificant. 150 BTC * $125 = $19000. once a week, cash out 20k and pay it to the growing herd to
ericmuys_: keep them happy and keep the price going up steadily. and it seems like there's only a large dividend once or twice a month. he's probably not doing this, but it's funny that he could and it just pumps his company to extraordinary levels, but everyone remains happy if the funds (his shares) dont dry up
truffles: furuknap although ur explainations are clear, im confused
furuknap: Shoot.
truffles: arent btc's constant? i dont get the 40 to 1k thing
furuknap: That's a result of the exchange value. If prices drop, you get more BTC for your holdings. This will, even with realistic numbers, far outweigh any mining profit.
truffles: u mean fiat?
furuknap: I mean BTC prices in fiat or whatever other currency or holding you have. Same applies if you hold LTC.
truffles: so the bet is the value of random fiat goes down ?
furuknap: No, the bet ius that the price of BTC goes down compared to whatever value you hold.
truffles: i dont like that btc's fate is so tied to fiat
furuknap: It isn't, any more than the dollars fate is tied to yen or euros or ximabwean dollars.
furuknap: *zim...
truffles: so u say, but seems like a speculators game at the moment
furuknap: Think of it even simpler: You have two states of operation. One is gathering coins, the other is selling coins. When you are gathering coins, you want the price to be as low as possible and when you're selling coins, you want the price to be as high as possible.
furuknap: The counter-intuitive thing that miners miss is that they're arguing that they want to pay as much as possible for their coins and then sell for the same price, which doesn't make sense when you think about it.
truffles: well when it gets rly rly difficult im sure prices will be insane
furuknap: Doesn't really matter. A price drop is still more favorable for miners.
fiat500: how so
truffles: wouldnt all equipment be bought by then
furuknap: Quite the opposite :-) All the equipment shuld be sold then.
truffles: when bfl finally delivers okay
furuknap: okay what?
truffles: just throwing that out there..
fiat500: furuknap: cute analysis
truffles: "on’t forget to convert the value to USD, regardless of whether you buy it using USD or Bitcoins"
fiat500: "In short, buying mining equipment yields far more reward in Bitcoins when the value of Bitcoins drop than if Bitcoins rise in value."
fiat500: really irrelevant, what puritan is mining nowadays simply for the btc reward? :P
fiat500: i for one plan on converting to fiat right away
furuknap: Then you're no longer a miner, but a coin holder, and the argument doesn't apply.
fiat500: true, but i am generating coins for myself
furuknap: If you just want coins for the curiosity of it, you're not looking at profitability and might as well buy them.
fiat500: i mean i am not simply a holder, there is a positive delta of coins worth $x * n being generated
fiat500: the higher x is the more profitable i am
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.02085 = 0.5213 BTC [+]
furuknap: No, then you have not understood the argument.
fiat500: i get your argument, im just saying my value denominated in btc is not important to me
furuknap: So what is important to you?
fiat500: $_$
furuknap: Exactly. And your $ profit is much higher if the price of BTC goes down.
furuknap: In fact, like I showed in the updated question today, you have a 10x higher profitability in $ if the price goes down.
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.016739 BTC [-]
truffles: this just reminds me of poker where players get rakeback(bonus) from casinos & the rakeback kings want higher rake to get more rakeback..
furuknap: I don't play pokwer so I have no idea what that means :-)
truffles: pay more fees to get more bonus
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.16 = 6.48 BTC [+]
truffles: poker is fun u should try it
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1796 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.16 = 8.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [+]
furuknap: Nah, I don't gamble, and that applies to my investing too. Boring, yeah, but I sleep well with open positions.
ericmuys_: furuknap: this article makes no sense. if it takes 1 GPU 1 week to mine 1 BTC it doesn't matter how much the GPU is worth in USD. what 1 BTC is worth is what matters. higher is always better unless you consider the difficulty decreasing as the price decreases. otherwise common sense is pretty good here. "When the price of Bitcoin rises, our value denominated in Bitcoin drops drastically. When the price of Bitcoin
ericmuys_: crashes, the amount of Bitcoin our holdings represent goes through the roof!" - that's only if the value of a USD is directly polar to a BTC, but it's not, a USD is based on a world of economics and BTC can capitalize on that.
truffles: poker's a skill game
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.6 = 6.4 BTC [-]
ericmuys_: ^
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1798 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1798 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.000666 = 0.002 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1911 = 0.3822 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1798 BTC [+]
furuknap: eric: You probably don't understand something in that article. The GPOU and BTC is irrelevant. Difficulty is irrelevant. Mining is irrelevant. USD is irrelevant. Hence the A, B, and C in the first part of the article.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010098 BTC [+]
ericmuys_: furuknap: sure but that's only in a vacuum situation where B and C are tied. they are not in reality. this logic is just twisted
Chaaang-Noi: lol mind fuck
Chaaang-Noi: <assbot> [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.6 = 6.4 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: <assbot> [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1798 BTC [+]
furuknap: Quite the opposite, those values are completely independent.
truffles: maybe some1 got a discount
Chaaang-Noi: i bet an options contractr
Chaaang-Noi: its just reported weird
ericmuys_: furuknap: "When the price of Bitcoin rises, our value denominated in Bitcoin drops drastically. When the price of Bitcoin crashes, the amount of Bitcoin our holdings represent goes through the roof!"
ericmuys_: that was an option
aknap3: you'll be seeing more of those
ericmuys_: @Chaaang-Noi
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1779 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: yeah :)
Chaaang-Noi: tehy shoudl report them better
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [-]
jurov: some day google buys asicminer.. and the community will be liek http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/yahoo
truffles: ive got lots of random yahoo emails no!
jurov: need moar
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 56 @ 0.00273 = 0.1529 BTC [-]
jurov: It’s strange how Yahoo didn’t catch on to basically the whole of tumblr not wanting them.
jurov: They’re basically that really annoying person that doesn’t get the hint you don’t want them around
jurov: hahahaha
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 114 @ 0.00273 = 0.3112 BTC [-]
fiat500: Chaaang-Noi: ive been looking at COG.F
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 71 @ 0.00279 = 0.1981 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: fiat500 yeah, it is interesting, esp at what the stock price is now
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.00273 = 0.1092 BTC [-]
fiat500: "One (1) COG.F represents a contract for twenty (20) COGNITIVE shares, to be delivered upon arrival of said mining hardware.
fiat500: If there isn't enough demand to purchase a single bitcoin miner after a week of the first sale of a COG.F contract, COG.F purchases will be refunded."
Chaaang-Noi: i personally dont hold any, but might buy some later
fiat500: a week?
fiat500: this was introduced in march
fiat500: or is it 1 week per "contract"
Chaaang-Noi: you only get the shares when you they get the asics
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.02085 = 0.146 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: so you have to wait until bfl or whoever ships
fiat500: yeah im fine with that
Chaaang-Noi: okay, then go for it :)
fiat500: im just wondering if this fund is still alive
Chaaang-Noi: it was 2 weeks ago, im sure it is now
Chaaang-Noi: im pretty close with the operator
fiat500: man that kid is 16? heh
Chaaang-Noi: i think 18 now
Chaaang-Noi: but he has been honest and hard working, i personally trust him
Chaaang-Noi: he has about 20k usd worth of my btc, and im about to give him a shit load more
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02085 = 0.1043 BTC [+]
furuknap: Cognitive also has an early Avalon order, right? Will the COG.F fund convert when that arrives or only when all their ordered ASICs arrive?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 49 @ 0.02085 = 1.0217 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: only when the new asics come in
Chaaang-Noi: that old order is not related to the 7 bfl preorders
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 27 @ 0.000696 = 0.0188 BTC [-]
furuknap: Ah, so basically, it's a bet that the price of cognitive is higher than 0.125 at the time BFL ships.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.02084 = 0.3126 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1779 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: yeah but im not even sure what asics they will buy
furuknap: Seems reasonable. The operation has been stable, the new Avalon will surely increase profits... The time is important, though. Of course, in theory, BFL can announce they've solved all their issues tomorrow, in which case this is an easy way to double money.
Chaaang-Noi: you should talk with him, or read the thread maybe to get more info
furuknap: I did, but it wasn't entirely clear when the orders were placed.
Chaaang-Noi: yeah i hold cog as a hedge against my AM, cuz they are heavy avalon and BFL
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.02085 = 0.2919 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: im not sure the orders ahve been placed, i think this is fund rasing
furuknap: OK, so let me rephrase... It's not clear when the orders will be placed (and thus when the conversion might happen).
Chaaang-Noi: could be a great deal, could be fail
furuknap: I don't see why they couldn't used the raised funds to make purchases already, though. I mean, if a great deal comes up and they're short a few bonds, they lose out even if they have the funds at hand.
Chaaang-Noi: i just have low ball bids and some times people sell into them, but not for months
Chaaang-Noi: my cost average is like .11
Chaaang-Noi: i dont know, im just a 5% stock holder, i dont pick what happens
fiat500: theyve already sold 53btc worth, shouldnt that be enough for at least 2 singles?
Chaaang-Noi: i dont know, he has 4 motions up already
Chaaang-Noi: read them i guess first
Chaaang-Noi: oh the motions are on the real stock not the cog.f
Chaaang-Noi: honestly i dont know a whole lot about it other than what i have told you guys
fiat500: i voted on those already
fiat500: but COG.F strictly says shares to be delivered upon receipt of hardware bought using COG.F funds
Chaaang-Noi: thay have not bought them yet
fiat500: hmmm
fiat500: then it would make more sense for me to just order a single for myself right now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 37 @ 0.0214 = 0.7918 BTC [+]
fiat500: does he hang out on irc?
Chaaang-Noi: garr something if so
Chaaang-Noi: garr2555
Chaaang-Noi: he has been here off and on
Chaaang-Noi: he is a busy guy
Chaaang-Noi: i talk with him on skype
ericmuys_: quick question, at 0.5 and 0.2 for basic-mining and cog, respectively, some dudes consuming mining hardware, waiting on asics, how does 2.0 for asicminer, an actual manufacturer + miner, overvalued?
fiat500: ericmuys_: if you think AM is overbought, you would think those are too
Chaaang-Noi: i dont think AM is over valued
Chaaang-Noi: i think cog might be a bit over valued, but im using it as a hedge
Chaaang-Noi: i dont know enough about the other one
ericmuys_: fiat500: ah, but the opposite is not necessarily true of course
Chaaang-Noi: also i bought cog at .11 and that was undervalued
parseval: cog really needs BFL to ship
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 62 @ 0.02085 = 1.2927 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: well they are buying avalon chips too
Chaaang-Noi: he is just one f the few people i trust, so bfl might fuck him, but i dont think he will fuck us
parseval: I thought they hadn't ordered that yet and were wavering on whether to go to AM for the next one
Chaaang-Noi: they have 7 very early orders for the 60 ghs unit, but they want to order more
fiat500: its up for a vote
Chaaang-Noi: i think they have avalon ordered as well
Chaaang-Noi: they paid for asics about a year ago
Chaaang-Noi: really read the thread if you want to buy :)
fiat500: ive been reading, only thing holding me back is timeline
parseval: Well, it's better to buy in early rather than late. Once they get their hardware the price is going to jump
ericmuys_: ships in 2 weeks
parseval: It's always 'two weeks'
parseval: I have no faith in BFL's stated timelines anymore
Chaaang-Noi: 4 to 6 weeks
fiat500: hardware that hasnt been purchased yet is even more ephemeral than the stuff that was ordered last year :P
ericmuys_: parseval: or the speculators won't be happy with the dividends and end up bailing
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 65 @ 0.02085 = 1.3553 BTC [+]
parseval: True.. I think the COG.F shares were priced a little high. 2.0 would have been better than 2.5
fiat500: i think the price is right
parseval: Considering that at the time the price was down to around .15
ericmuys_: considering the premium you're paying on this asic speculation, it could already be at the price it should be
fiat500: assuming we arent talking about an interest-free loan for several months
ericmuys_: really anything could happen haha
Chaaang-Noi: yeah anything could happen
Chaaang-Noi: id not go all in on that, but some cant hurt
furuknap: It seems to me, at least on the surface, that GOG.F is a reasonable purchase. Timing is actually less important if the manager is reasonable (like Chaang says). 2.5 BTC invested in mining is 2.5 BTC invested in mining regardless of when it happens. If the investment is sound, it doesn't really matter when that happens.
PsychoticBoy: just a quick poll: I have an Avalon (65Gh/s)
Chaaang-Noi: congratz!
PsychoticBoy: Should I start a 100 or 500Mh/s perpetual mining bond?
PsychoticBoy: thanks
PsychoticBoy: lets say 500Mh/s at 1 btc?
Chaaang-Noi: i personally would not be interested unless you were just giving it away
PsychoticBoy: sounds good or not?
PsychoticBoy: a give away huh? ;)
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.020251 = 0.405 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 55 @ 0.02025 = 1.1138 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: some ppl are trying to get rich by dividing asicminer shares like TAT or just the PTs but thats not my cup of tea
fiat500: PsychoticBoy: im interested
fiat500: how many shares are you thinking of issuing
PsychoticBoy: 120 shares
fiat500: lol.
PsychoticBoy: at 500Mh/s
Chaaang-Noi: i think there would be some interest, but not really from me
fiat500: but how many would you keep for yourself
PsychoticBoy: or 600 at 100Mh/s
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.19899 = 0.398 BTC [+]
furuknap: fiat, he just told you the numbers. It's a 65 GHs Avalon. The math from there is pretty basic.
PsychoticBoy: only 60Gh/s will be divided in shares the rest I will keep (5-6Gh/s)
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.199 = 0.398 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 21 @ 0.2 = 4.2 BTC [+]
fiat500: furuknap: yeah but why would he only keep 5GH/s for himself
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.2499 = 2.2491 BTC [+]
fiat500: i thought he had mucked up the numbers
PsychoticBoy: as back up ;)
PsychoticBoy: and it is perpetual mining bond at a fixed MH/s
furuknap: Because he's cashing out future profits by selling bonds?
PsychoticBoy: so who cares what I keep ;)
fiat500: PsychoticBoy: do you have the hw right now?
PsychoticBoy: I have 14Gh-s FPGA farm and an Avalon
furuknap: Then go for it. I'd think 100 MH wuold be an easier sell, though.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2355 = 1.1775 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: I will PM Ukto (bitfunder) and hopefully launch the asset in 1-2 weeks
furuknap: Do BTCT instead, please. Bitfunder is... not my cup of tea.
Chaaang-Noi: ill make a pt for btct!
fiat500: +1 btct
Chaaang-Noi: kidding btw :)
PsychoticBoy: sounds ok Goat
PsychoticBoy: as you wish
fiat500: PsychoticBoy: try to get it launched soon, like this week
PsychoticBoy: Ukto has to accept the asset first
Chaaang-Noi: there seems to be a lot of people at the bitcoin event
Chaaang-Noi: like hounreds, maybe 1000's ??
furuknap: Yeah, or you could do BTCT.
fiat500: PsychoticBoy: ukto doesnt have to accept anything on btct
furuknap: Do it properly. Set up a thread, discuss it, announce it, get feedback on contracts and proposal, answer any lingering questions, etc. Then you launch.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2352 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: I will PM burnside also
PsychoticBoy: then start a thread at bitcointalk and such
fiat500: PsychoticBoy: is it currently hooked up to a mining pool?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.00273 = 0.0109 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: yes fiat500, a private pool
PsychoticBoy: a pool which is private and owned by a large member of the community
fiat500: can he confirm?
PsychoticBoy: he could
PsychoticBoy: If he wants to
fiat500: >_>
PsychoticBoy: thats me
PsychoticBoy: only midnightmagic rated me without doing business with me but he thats ok
PsychoticBoy: When I see gigavps I will ask him to confirm
ericmuys_: PsychoticBoy: here you go son, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54752
fiat500: lol
fiat500: PsychoticBoy: can you tell me more about those mining bonds midnightmagic was talking about?
ericmuys_: is it this POS? https://bitfunder.com/asset/ABM
PsychoticBoy: that is my older asset
PsychoticBoy: ;;ident PsychoticBoy
gribble: Nick 'PsychoticBoy', with hostmask 'PsychoticBoy!~Psychotic@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy', is identified as user PsychoticBoy, with GPG key id 06DC71AFE4DAC520, key fingerprint 9E476C16F877E988110787BC06DC71AFE4DAC520, and bitcoin address None
PsychoticBoy: back from the GLBSE days
ericmuys_: PsychoticBoy: and your FPGA farm and avalon are giving you ฿0.20359620 per week?
PsychoticBoy: no ABM only runs 1 BFL single
fiat500: 800MH/s?
PsychoticBoy: ;;genrate 79000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 79000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 11187257.4614, is 3.5513274755 BTC per day and 0.147971978146 BTC per hour.
ericmuys_: PsychoticBoy: so how are you, and I quote ABM, doing "the best we can to give you the highest possible mining revenue." by starting a new asset? what about the existing ABM investors? did you buyback?
PsychoticBoy: no, I did not buyback, yes at market price but no forced buyback
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.021295 = 10.6475 BTC [-]
fiat500: ;;genrate 800
PsychoticBoy: but the new asset is different from ABM
gribble: The expected generation output, at 800.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 11187257.4614, is 0.0359628098785 BTC per day and 0.0014984504116 BTC per hour.
PsychoticBoy: -25% elec etc
fiat500: yeah
PsychoticBoy: new asset will be perpetual fixed MH/s
PsychoticBoy: like 100Mh/s 100% PPS
PsychoticBoy: perpetual
PsychoticBoy: I ABM you do own the hardware, new asset not
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.021295 = 0.1491 BTC [-]
fiat500: PsychoticBoy: have you considered using the funds to purchase a second mining rig
ericmuys_: PsychoticBoy: your statements for ABM: "I am planning to grow bigger and bigger, recently ordered another BFLS." "And hoping to buy more FPGA/ASICS in the near future."
ericmuys_: makes more sense to keep a good reputation on your word and put them into ABM, try to revise the contract with stock holder majority?
ericmuys_: just sayin, spinning up new companies is kind of :-/
ericmuys_: new company, I will take over the world and you can come, buy my overpriced IPO. fun! argh im bored and want new terms, new company! bye believers. hey, buy my new company we'll do it this time
ThickAsThieves: some insane action last night on AM
Chaaang-Noi: nice volume
fiat500: ericmuys_: serial entrepreneurship
fiat500: lulz
ericmuys_: haha
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0207 = 0.0621 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.020849 = 0.417 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.021 = 0.147 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 38 @ 0.021 = 0.798 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 240 @ 0.021 = 5.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.021 = 0.294 BTC [-]
ericmuys_: buying a few machines that do nothing but hash sha256 don't warrant more than one company. the existing company and new company have one purpose: sha256. would not touch with 10 foot pole.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 9 @ 0.0061 = 0.0549 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: furuknap, you must be a happy spider
ThickAsThieves: so many insects caught in your comment section
furuknap: I must?
furuknap: Ah, that.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.076 BTC [-]
fiat500: lol
furuknap: I'd be happy if someone could point out flaws in the math. Right now it's mostly "but I want this to not be true!" which isn't really doing anything for anyone.
ThickAsThieves: i'll need to read it later
ThickAsThieves: it's too broken up and hard to read
ThickAsThieves: this early in the morning
ThickAsThieves: my guess is you used a million words to say stuff we already discussed
ThickAsThieves: but i'll check it out
fiat500: actually his thesis appears to be that inflation is good because you have more units for the same value
fiat500: someone's been spending too much time on the silk road
fiat500: parallel to your argument furuknap is: i have a pc that i do software dev on for an hourly rate, hence the lower my hourly rate the more i profit because the value of my pc denominated by my hourly rate increases
furuknap: You are quite free to demonstrate your lack of understanding by using different analogies. It doesn't change the math.
fiat500: its the same argument you made, replacing pc for mining hardware, and hourly rate for btc/usd
ericmuys_: furuknap: his analogy is spot on. your math is twisted.
ericmuys_: yes the math is correct, but it should not be applied to the situation you apply it to
furuknap: Then explain where the math is wrong. Use the trading I explained and run the numbers. Prove me wrong, please. I so want this to not be right too.
fiat500: if i cared to spend on things using my hourly rate, and the conversion from my hourly rate to other items remained constant, then your math is solid
ericmuys_: ^^^ exactly
ericmuys_: but that is NOT reality
fiat500: but this isnt the case with btc (yet?), perhaps one day its real world value will be independent from fiat
furuknap: You analogy is completely irrelevant in that you don't retain your hours for later resale at a higher value.
ericmuys_: you're wasting a bunch of peoples time on nonsense. I want my 10 minutes back
ThickAsThieves: do you want them back in PCs or in minutes?
furuknap: If instead you _contracted_ someone at the low rate that you could later resell at a higher rate, then you might be closer.
fiat500: LOL
ericmuys_: LOL
furuknap: Thus you demonstrate your lack of understanding my using an analogy that doesn't work.
ericmuys_: ThickAsThieves: I would like them back in what furuknap's smokin'
furuknap: ...then they ridicule you.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2499 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2499 = 1.2495 BTC [+]
fiat500: furuknap: 2 scenarios here, i generate 1btc per day using hardware i spent 10btc on and have already broken even, i want to pay rent in USD, in which scenario do i profit more, if USD is at 100 or if USD is at 1?
ericmuys_: I'm joking, but you need to take a step back away from the monitor
fiat500: you cant get around the fact that the higher the rate the more real money you get out of it
fiat500: and real money = real value
furuknap: Again, you're clearly demonstrating your utter lack of understanding, but I'm not really going to explain it to you yet again.
fiat500: i think you're on shrooms :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.01624 = 0.0812 BTC [-]
furuknap: Your thinking is not very relevant to math. What you think is about as relevant as the current weather.
ericmuys_: you are not the special 1 in 1 million people who "see through the veil." not this time. I know it may feel good to fight the mainstream of sheeps, but you're wrong. the logic is twisted to make it seem like you are.
fiat500: furuknap: alright man, im going to sit and build a formal proof for you later today
fiat500: right now im trying to find a sweet security to invest in
ericmuys_: furuknap: if he does, he's doing you a huge favor. i'm not going to bother
fiat500: where are the miners selling shares and not scamming everyone
dub: PsychoticBoy ismining with giga? Last time I saw PsychoticBoy he was talking about hiring someone to kill giga
fiat500: LOL
ThickAsThieves: furuknap some AM sold at 2.2 last night, what does that put your losses at for cashing out early?
furuknap: Nothing.
ericmuys_: something's not quite right with our boy PsychoticBoy
ThickAsThieves: aww cmon
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.020849 = 0.0417 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: we play uour math you can play mine
fiat500: dub: tell us more
fiat500: ThickAsThieves: you think AM is going to get to 3 or 4?
ThickAsThieves: i hope not...
furuknap: My profiots are still ฿1+.
fiat500: you hope not?
ericmuys_: unless he bought at >= 2.2, I wouldn't call it a loss because cashing out early != losing, but it's a very similar analogy in that *the math* is correct, but the logic is twisted, just like his article.
ThickAsThieves: makes my life a lot harder
fiat500: because of the PT?
ericmuys_: I understand that was intentional :)
ThickAsThieves: and will add crazy volatility to be at 3
fiat500: if they double or triple their hash rate you dont think thatll be reflected in the share price?
dub: ;;nethash
gribble: 84931.5493493
dub: they can't double hashrate
ThickAsThieves: but there are already an increasing amount of noobs on this train
fiat500: they're only at 24% right now, they could double and still not risk 51%
ThickAsThieves: 3 will be a lot of tears
ThickAsThieves: they cant double
ericmuys_: they wont even
ThickAsThieves: because if 1 pool goes offline
ThickAsThieves: i believe the current hashing is already throttled
ThickAsThieves: and they will just sell more hardware
dub: I'm assuming they are hiding some
fiat500: there is at least 200TH/s of BFL crap on order
PsychoticBoy: What is not right?
dub: fiat500: how much has shipped?
fiat500: dub: im not talking about tomorrow, lets assume only 30% of it ships
ThickAsThieves: bfl is already hashing with whatever they have
Chaaang-Noi: "testing"
ThickAsThieves: if bfl ships
Chaaang-Noi: 4 to 6 weeks :)
PsychoticBoy: true, I was angry at giga, but we are cool now
ThickAsThieves: then AM will just stop sellkng and start putting more hashes onlkne
fiat500: we're all just speculating
fiat500: but saying they "cant double"...
ericmuys_: they will hold this incline upward. trust in friedcat.
BitHub: but its not like 1 person ordered 200th
BitHub: so whats the worr?
furuknap: TAT: My article on evaluating mining companies will be delayed. It's too difficult to write something generic because the profiles of currenct assets are too different.
fiat500: theres no worry
fiat500: just that theres no need to throttle anymore at that point
BitHub: asicminer as a company probably has 200th up their sleeve, just sitting there waiting
BitHub: that's true fiat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.2499 = 2.2491 BTC [+]
fiat500: which is why im wondering where this "they cant double 18TH" comes from
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10899 BTC [+]
BitHub: price trollers?
fiat500: heh
fiat500: so whats the next AM satoshi stock? :P
BitHub: heh that's what we're on the hunt for
BitHub: 100th mine - could be the second asicminer
fiat500: link to info?
furuknap: Geez, this is turning into the trollbox.
fiat500: furuknap: huh?
BitHub: its on picostocks.com
ThickAsThieves: stay away from that crap
BitHub: really?
BitHub: heh
ThickAsThieves: stop looking for the "next" AM
fiat500: invest in TAT investments then? :P
ThickAsThieves: its like saying ai wish i had a tine machine
fiat500: i do
dub: dood get in on this batjewcoin
fiat500: LOL
ThickAsThieves: a sleeper investment isnt found by people thatthru greed
ThickAsThieves: sry typing on tablet....
ericmuys_: AM: 0.05 a day. it's like clockwork. this trajectory is calculated. and there's no reason to double it's going to suddenly stop after 2 months of consistency. http://o7.no/13FtkOp + http://o7.no/18bGnYN
ericmuys_: to doubt*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2391 BTC [-]
truffles: <ThickAsThieves> a sleeper investment isnt found by people thatthru greed>>> so far thats all i see in btc land
dub: people should certainly be more scared about AM
dub: its surprising there is not more noise about an algo swap
ThickAsThieves: algo swap?
dub: a hard fork to sink AM
dub: its likely they could turn up >50%
dub: not that they need that much
PsychoticBoy: who hoe that would mean I can setup my GPU rigs again :D
dub: would be a good test
dub: might be a hard sell with guild though :)
truffles: dub whats your specialty?
dub: my speciality?
truffles: python?
dub: trolling
dub: coding is for monkeys
truffles: well i get accused of being a troll itc
truffles: dub just making conversation
truffles: whats higher than a programmer in cyberworld?
ThickAsThieves: a programmer on weed
truffles: hacker?
dub: a network engineer on sake and tramadol
kakobrekla: you on tramadol?
truffles: how does that happen
ThickAsThieves: second place is the first loser
ThickAsThieves: shake n bake!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27963 @ 0.0006706 = 18.752 BTC [+]
dub: spun out on hairpin, got t-boned by kart behind
truffles: i guess in my mind a programmer already knows how to do circuit wirings..
truffles: a professional one at least
ThickAsThieves: pretty sure that is not a usual assumption
truffles: would u say one(programmer) designs the webspace and the other(NT engineer) maps it?
ThickAsThieves: i wouldnt say anything on the topic
ThickAsThieves: due to lack of interest and personal experience
ThickAsThieves: and most importantly
ThickAsThieves: lack of understanding whether there is a topic at all
inhies: wuts a topix
truffles: u were trollin so obv..
fiat500: ;;genrate 10000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 11187257.4614, is 0.449535123481 BTC per day and 0.018730630145 BTC per hour.
ThickAsThieves: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 237050 | Current Difficulty: 1.1187257461360792E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 237887 | Next Difficulty In: 837 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 19 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11928082.3911 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.62204
ThickAsThieves: need moar hashes
Diablo-D3: whats the maximum percent change?
ThickAsThieves: didnt know there was a max
truffles: hi kakobrekla
truffles: are u having a great day today?
kakobrekla: so so
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.137 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 12 @ 2.5 = 30 BTC [+]
parseval: Good morning
ericmuys_: 12 @ 2.5? what a horrible option
ericmuys_: truffles: most programmers don't touch circuits.
truffles: well theyre still skilled at something
ericmuys_: most paid for a degree and collect a 9-5 salary at a keyboard doing C# PHP or something, that's it.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.135 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1392 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 2.1395 = 14.9765 BTC [+]
ericmuys_: yup
truffles: that is disappointing
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.16 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: I was taken in custody by the police in Wednesday at about 18:30,
Chaaang-Noi: not shocked
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.020849 = 0.1042 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.021 = 0.42 BTC [+]
truffles: tl dr
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1694 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1695 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: >Don't worry about me. This is normal (for me, at least). Finland is a good country as regards the treatment of nuts.
deadweasel: "MP's penance will be the the duration of his public insult + 20%. He knows the math." <<< lulz
fiat500: truffles: that wasnt an option
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1694 BTC [-]
fiat500: 12 @ 2.5
ThickAsThieves: merely a bad purchase
fiat500: we'll see about that
fiat500: now im about 50:50 AM and COG
Chaaang-Noi: im like 98% AM and 2% cog :)
ThickAsThieves: I'm all AM and difficulty futures
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1695 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.1695 = 8.678 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: if AM doesnt payout any hardware sales this div, there will be a lot of sad pandas
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.021 = 0.861 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: thats for me?
ThickAsThieves: what dont i like?
truffles: haters gonna hate
ThickAsThieves: oh, me hatin on Cog you mean?
ThickAsThieves: i just dont see it as good enough diversification or hedging, if that's your aim
fiat500: ThickAsThieves: ive also ordered my own mining hardware, this is just for fun
ThickAsThieves: i almost ordered some USB miners for fun
ThickAsThieves: but i didnt
ThickAsThieves: they are just so cute
fiat500: LOL
ThickAsThieves: BTCTC needs a trollbox
ThickAsThieves: so i can yell at people for lowering bids when they dont need to
fiat500: haha
fiat500: what security are you talking about
ThickAsThieves: any i bet
ThickAsThieves: people dont realize
ThickAsThieves: that older asks of the same price get priority
ThickAsThieves: so when you match them
ThickAsThieves: they lower the ask
ThickAsThieves: and a kitten dies
fiat500: lmfao
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1023 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10899 BTC [+]
ericmuyser: Is it safe to eat two day old bread? if there's mold, be bold!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26553 @ 0.00067195 = 17.8423 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the most you'll get is a little high, if it's rye
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.000696 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
orkaa: two day old bread?
orkaa: are you kidding?
orkaa: that's basically fresh
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1748 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.174899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1749 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.174997 = 6.525 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.174998 = 6.525 BTC [+]
jurov: depends in what conditions was that bread
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.021494 = 0.129 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5937 @ 0.0006706 = 3.9814 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3386 @ 0.00067059 = 2.2706 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 46 @ 0.021495 = 0.9888 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 65 @ 0.021499 = 1.3974 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 250 @ 0.021499 = 5.3748 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 70 @ 0.021511 = 1.5058 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.021511 = 4.3022 BTC [+]
deadweasel: nothing like a halluciogenic trip before your feet rot off.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 198 @ 0.021595 = 4.2758 BTC [+]
deadweasel: ;;google ergotism
gribble: Ergotism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotism>; Linda Caporael's Ergotism Article - Help: <http://web.utk.edu/~kstclair/221/ergotism.html>; ergotism - definition of ergotism by the Free Online Dictionary ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ergotism>
ericmuyser: gogo TAT AM haha
ericmuyser: deadweasel: that's dreadful
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1748 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.021595 = 0.3023 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 78 @ 0.021595 = 1.6844 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.174998 BTC [+]
truffles: thats disgusting
truffles: <ericmuyser> Is it safe to eat two day old bread? if there's mold, be bold!>>> remove mold make breadpudding
ericmuyser: pay my loans or more into AM, these are my dilemmas
truffles: id make it a lot but im the only one who likes it in the house
truffles: what kind of loans?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6114 @ 0.00067059 = 4.1 BTC [-]
ericmuyser: 200% over 4 years, losing $90 (reduced gradually) on each monthly $140 payment. $4200 total
truffles: student loans?
ericmuyser: furniture lol
truffles: sounds like a no brainer though, ure going to be balls deep in that
truffles: furniture!!!!
ericmuyser: oh what I could use that 4k on today though :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.00279 = 0.0084 BTC [+]
ericmuyser: bed, tv, etc. so it's on my credit score but each $140 payment is helping credit anyway.
truffles: pics of this overpriced furniture
truffles: 3d tv?
ericmuyser: huge plasma
ericmuyser: bed was 1.2k but damn its nice
truffles: tell me its not just u on it
ericmuyser: $300 bamboo sheets man <3
truffles: didnt even get projector screens..
ericmuyser: should have put this in btc haha but regardless.. losing $90 a month.. i can make more than that on the market
truffles: pic of chair(s) at least?
ericmuyser: lol you dont want to know what I did
truffles: i do
ericmuyser: I sold it all and moved to japan, so ya i'm sittin on a shitty $25 chair
truffles: the chairs i want cost $400+
ericmuyser: in a $500 apartment
ericmuyser: you want an aeron
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1999 = 0.3998 BTC [-]
truffles: not pc chairs
ericmuyser: oh i didn't get a lazy boy.. wannnt
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.021595 = 0.1512 BTC [+]
ericmuyser: what would you do? pay it off? i'm still young enough to take risks and I have a stable career so I wont go bankrupt
truffles: sure id pay it off
ericmuyser: hmm yes
truffles: u moved to jp, hows that like
truffles: sigh looking at furniture..
deadweasel: ;;bugpowder
gribble: Error: "bugpowder" is not a valid command.
deadweasel: ;;seen bugpowder
gribble: bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 13 hours, 29 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> taub asks are getting eaten
deadweasel: that is nice.
deadweasel: ^ that's what I want
truffles: looks smudged..
deadweasel: centipede looks like it was made with old skateboard decks.
truffles: haha
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.13 BTC [-]
truffles: ur chair is super comfy?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3886 @ 0.00066941 = 2.6013 BTC [-]
truffles: leather might be sweaty
deadweasel: both comfy and sweaty.
truffles: ok im gonna stop looking at chairs...
Chaaang-Noi: i just bought a leather sofa
Chaaang-Noi: for my smoking room
deadweasel: pics goat!
deadweasel: but no ladybois 'smoking' anything.
truffles: just something similar from google
PsychoticBoy: i BAKED A CAKE FOR YOUR SMOKING ROOM gOAT
truffles: looks like ashes all over the top
PsychoticBoy: sry for the caps ;)
PsychoticBoy: I am from the netherlands, I can bake a cake for all of you
truffles: id enjoy cake sure
PsychoticBoy: 5 joint cakes, 10 joint cakes lol you name it
PsychoticBoy: this was the birthday cake for a friend of mine :D
truffles: sounds like u know how to have fun !
PsychoticBoy: When all is possible in the country you live in, why not ;)
truffles: yea..
PsychoticBoy: I dont need SR, I can walk across the street and buy some, legally
Chaaang-Noi: lol you all want pics?
Chaaang-Noi: the sofa with a box of cubans?
truffles: im weird
Chaaang-Noi: okay one sec lol
PsychoticBoy: want some for IN you cubans?
Chaaang-Noi: okay i have 2 photos, where do i host them?
truffles: tinypic.com ?
Chaaang-Noi: one sec
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.130001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.13 BTC [-]
truffles: very nice
truffles: its just sitting on the chair like that, rly saying come on over to me..
Chaaang-Noi: you can see the btc in the lower left
Chaaang-Noi: lol PBoy i only smoke cigars, not much weed. once every 6 months or so:)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.0211 = 0.2954 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.122 BTC [-]
deadweasel: Chaaang-Noi: looks comfy!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 2.121 = 42.42 BTC [-]
truffles: it does
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.121 = 4.242 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.173899 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.02119999 = 0.3604 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.02129 = 0.2129 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 73 @ 0.02145 = 1.5659 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if anyone is looking for some cheap drama.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02144999 = 2.145 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 252 @ 0.02145 = 5.4054 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.021495 = 0.5374 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1738 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.17385 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.173899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.174 = 6.522 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1738 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.17385 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.174 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: [10:08] <JackH> now, I bought alot of asicminer shares
ThickAsThieves: [10:09] <JackH> quite cheap it seems
ThickAsThieves: [10:09] <JackH> arent they supposed to be 2BTC per share?
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1052 = 0.2104 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1052 = 0.3156 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.174499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1745 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.17479 = 10.874 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ah this is going to be so very much fun.
Chaaang-Noi: <deadweasel> Chaaang-Noi: looks comfy! it is thanks :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.131 = 4.262 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.130001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.126 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.125001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.123 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.122 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1212 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.121 = 12.726 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.121001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.121 = 4.242 BTC [-]
fiat500: lmfao@ mp
fiat500: "Because you see, my dear fellows, not everyone on the Internet is the same. Not all black people are niggers,"
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.021495 = 1.0748 BTC [-]
fiat500: if you say so
truffles: waaat
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.15 = 4.3 BTC [+]
fiat500: lulz
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.02145 = 0.2574 BTC [+]
truffles: i dont read his blogs, he sure is trying to be scandalous
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.259704 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: fiat500 :p
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.149999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 140 @ 0.02133 = 2.9862 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02145 = 0.1073 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: cog has gone up a bit
truffles: these women have nice boobs
fiat500: Chaaang-Noi: i took the plunge and bought 30btc worth of cog.f :P
jcpham: time to sell
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.00273 = 0.1365 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.149999 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: hope it does well
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.125001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.15 = 6.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02145 = 0.1931 BTC [+]
fiat500: should be interesting
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.00279 = 0.0698 BTC [+]
fiat500: many people want a time machine to go back in time, at present, i would like a time machine to send me forward a few months
truffles: putting urself closer to death..
fiat500: thats a dark way of looking at it
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 28 @ 0.000696 = 0.0195 BTC [-]
truffles: ummm
truffles: glitch in my brain matrix there heh
fiat500: anyone know whats up with bitvps, these guys cant turn a profit it seems, lol
Chaaang-Noi: never liked the business modle
jurov: they got raped by ghost
fiat500: dwindling sales since feb
ThickAsThieves: [10:27] <truffles> putting urself closer to death.. < not true
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.02133 = 0.3839 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: time machine is to travel time, not fast forward it
fiat500: really sad tbh, i wanna see more internet services built on btc
fiat500: ThickAsThieves: indeed
truffles: we dont know how time machines affect of us so : p
truffles: but yea..
ThickAsThieves: they dont affect us
ThickAsThieves: this is a fact
ThickAsThieves: them not existing n all
truffles: they dont exist
fiat500: Chaaang-Noi: i think maybe COG.F shareholders deserve a say in how their money is spent
truffles: i was going to beat u to typing that !
ThickAsThieves: cant beat my time machine
truffles: haha
fiat500: rather than leave it to the unwashed masses in COGNITIVE whose interests are a quick payoff
jurov: lol it's not their money... where do you have the notion from?
fiat500: jurov: humor me, whose is it then?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18983 @ 0.00067097 = 12.737 BTC [+]
jurov: those who have teh private key?
fiat500: O_o
fiat500: what point are you trying to make
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.021011 = 0.2101 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: [10:34] <jurov> lol it's not their money
ThickAsThieves: he made his point already
jurov: https://btct.co/security/COGNITIVE says nothing about ownership, just about participation and distribution of mining revenue
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 113 @ 0.02145 = 2.4239 BTC [+]
fiat500: jurov: i am talking about COG.F
jurov: link?
fiat500: fund designed for purchase of new hardware, but funnily enough with no voting power (COGNITIVE shareholders get to decide how it is spent)
ThickAsThieves: decisions are best made by committee after all...
jurov: okay to me it looks like a loan. and borrower thus owns the coins, with purported obligation to fullfill some conditions later
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1999 = 0.5997 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.021329 = 0.0853 BTC [+]
jurov: whole thing says plenty how poorly bitcoin assets work. garrett cannot accept promises from prospective shareholders that they will have the coins
jurov: "when the opportunity becomes available (Whether it be Avlalon, BFL, or other)"
fiat500: im not talking about obligations here, im saying it is weird that holders of COGNITIVE, whose interests are a quick payoff, get to decide how the money provided by COG.F investors is spent
jurov: he has actually to take the coins and do the escrow himself
fiat500: yeah
fiat500: the price we pay for lack of regulation?
fiat500: anyway im not too bothered by it, just thinking out loud
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.021329 = 0.128 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.149496 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <jurov> okay to me it looks like a loan. and borrower thus owns the coins, with purported obligation to fullfill some conditions later << methinks j man has been doing a lot of reading up lately.
jurov: nah im just pretending
mircea_popescu: hehe. it is a good thing. and you are exactly correct, by thwe way, it's a point few people understand
mircea_popescu: that's why it's not legally surprising a bank takes its depositor funds. they are unsecured creditors. the bank is the owner of all funds deposited by anyone.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.149497 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.149989 = 12.8999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 2.14999 = 32.2499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 2.15 = 45.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21147 @ 0.00067089 = 14.1873 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 2.15 = 43 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.150001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.15 = 12.9 BTC [-]
fiat500: bots >_>
ThickAsThieves: those were bids i think
b0n1: what would you say is a fair rate for lending btc short?
ThickAsThieves: people getting aggressive with the buying
ThickAsThieves: someone bought 90 @ 2.2 on BF last night
mircea_popescu: b0n1 not quite enough market data yet to answer that q.
mircea_popescu: whatever you can get away with i guess.
truffles: wonder if fur's analysis helped with that TAT
fiat500: b0n1: going rate on bfx is 0.02%/day
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021495 BTC [+]
b0n1: fiat500, yeah i saw that, but that does look extremely low in my oppinion
mircea_popescu: also pretty meaningless.
ThickAsThieves: i dont think anyone could read furuknap's analysis without their eyes crossing and moving on
fiat500: ThickAsThieves: LOL
fiat500: yeah
mircea_popescu: he made it too tense. otherwise he does have a point.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00066815 = 10.49 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00066751 = 1.6354 BTC [-]
fiat500: b0n1: point is if you try to charge more, you wont find borrowers
fiat500: not that its a fair value
mircea_popescu: as far as i know tho, it's the borrowers who come to the terms of the lender
mircea_popescu: not the other way around
mircea_popescu: nobody is desperate to lend out btc.
ThickAsThieves: i want a BTC credit line
truffles: yea i wanna borrow 10btc
fiat500: heh, on bfx they are quite desperate
mircea_popescu: get in mpex, trade a lot, they're not hard to get.
fiat500: variable interest rate nets >70% p.a
mircea_popescu: fiat500 except they don't make it a full year.
ThickAsThieves: but in mpex i'd have to trade mpoe back and forth all day
fiat500: mircea_popescu: right, but thats still pretty high
mircea_popescu: afaik this was discussed in the forum fiat500. the blowout rate was like 30%, making any interest under 5k pa or so a losing proposition.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know most pro traders irl trade one asset class.
ThickAsThieves: and jurov already ahs that market cornered
fiat500: i borrowed $20k on margin for a long position a few days ago, made $1700 but also had to pay $200 swap
mircea_popescu: might explain why actual ws types aren't as worried about it as the forum variety seekrs.
fiat500: so its a non-negligible amount of money
fiat500: (over 3-4 days)
mircea_popescu: anyway, off to teh dungeons. take care all.
ThickAsThieves: i could probly just start a find
ThickAsThieves: or issue bonds
ThickAsThieves: and get btc much cheaper
fiat500: like namworld?
ThickAsThieves: ive considered it
jurov: <ThickAsThieves> and jurov already ahs that market cornered <<< haha i'm rly so scary?
truffles: friendly competition isnt so bad
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02145 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: nah, i just HATE bots
ThickAsThieves: you can have your MPOE racket
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 335 @ 0.02145 = 7.1858 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02145119 = 0.1931 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 106 @ 0.0214512 = 2.2738 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: eat, eat, who ever heard of a skinny santa?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021495 BTC [+]
jurov: lol
truffles: food is meant to be eaten
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.021495 = 0.3869 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 170 @ 0.0214512 = 3.6467 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0214512 = 0.0644 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.168899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1689 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.021512 = 0.086 BTC [+]
deadweasel: we are all food, we are all meant to be eaten.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.168 = 4.336 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1689 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.169 BTC [+]
deadweasel: for every 1 human cell there are 10 non-human cells in our bodies.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.178 = 6.534 BTC [+]
deadweasel: microbes
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.178 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.17998 = 4.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02120002 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: [11:58] <deadweasel> we are all food, we are all meant to be eaten. < that might be debatable
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1798 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: we have adapted to eat things
ThickAsThieves: not to be eaten
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.02120002 = 0.1272 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02144 = 2.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 94 @ 0.02145 = 2.0163 BTC [+]
deadweasel: ThickAsThieves: when you die you will be eaten, unless cremated or taxidermied
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1798 BTC [-]
deadweasel: things have adapted to eat us, too.
deadweasel: they are just smaller than use.
deadweasel: use/us
ThickAsThieves: nonetheless, we arent made to be eaten
ThickAsThieves: unless you wanna get really abstract
ThickAsThieves: and say we are meant to be eaten by the universe itself
deadweasel: i do. :)
ThickAsThieves: btw do you watch that Hannibal show?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.2611 = 0.5222 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: pretty good stuff
deadweasel: no, not yet, I downloaded the first few, but GF was frightened so didn't get through 5 minutes of first one.
ThickAsThieves: yeah it's pretty gruesome for tv
ThickAsThieves: like Se7en
ThickAsThieves: maybe worse
deadweasel: that whole movie was unnecessary, i think I'll skip Hannibal unless I'm very bored.
deadweasel: borgias and game of thrones are filled the ARCHER void for me right now.
deadweasel: filled/filling
deadweasel: if I could watch new episodes of archer for the rest of my life I'd seriously consider it.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.158 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i couldnt get into Borgias
ThickAsThieves: nor Archer
deadweasel: it's not worth it, all drama, not enough historical action or battlefield action
deadweasel: borgias is not.
ThickAsThieves: GoT is good, but best watched in binge mode
deadweasel: archer is the mutherloving best show I've ever seen.
deadweasel: takes a certain type of humor though.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00279 = 0.0279 BTC [+]
deadweasel: my type.
deadweasel: yeah ThickAsThieves, people smarter than I are waiting for all the seasons to finished and then do the 5 day marathon vacation with the box set.
deadweasel: which I wish I'd done.
deadweasel: that way the smaller subplots hook better and you're more interested in the drama.
ThickAsThieves: yeah I always feel like I need like 30 more min per ep
ThickAsThieves: too many plots
deadweasel: i forget, you in the states ThickAsThieves ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02144 = 2.144 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.02145 = 0.1287 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.16 BTC [+]
deadweasel: then pls help kill CISPA round two. :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02144999 = 2.145 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02145 = 2.145 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: and i shared
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.168 = 4.336 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021595 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.168 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.021011 = 0.2101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021011 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02146 = 2.146 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000646 = 0.0065 BTC [-]
jcpham: dump it all
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1798 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 65 @ 0.02146 = 1.3949 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.021011 = 0.4833 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.179 = 4.358 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.021011 = 0.6724 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.02148899 = 0.7306 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.239 BTC [-]
inhies: o my
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.6 = 8 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02148899 = 0.0645 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.179 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.17998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.179999 = 6.54 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.18 = 10.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.6 = 6.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6427 @ 0.00067053 = 4.3095 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.021011 = 0.2101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.6 = 6.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.021011 = 1.5758 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 1.6 so soon ?
deadweasel: ;;seen mjr___
gribble: mjr___ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, 14 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <mjr___> talk to you later, and i'll let you know how it goes in union square
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.021011 = 0.4202 BTC [-]
asa1024: was an option
aknap3: oh come on, don't pretend you don't know those are my options :)
mircea_popescu: i'm not pretending
aknap3: well, you fooled me then
mircea_popescu: and why are options trading in the underlying or wtf nonsense have you kids cooked up this time ?
aknap3: it's a stupid setup the way options are reported
aknap3: on the other hand, it's great for poking fun at
deadweasel: ;;seen mjr_
gribble: mjr_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 22 hours, 11 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <mjr_> hey Bugpowda
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: it's probably a pita to code it just so gribble sees options differently
ThickAsThieves: mpex doesnt even show option excercises
ThickAsThieves: might be a better approach
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.021011 = 0.6934 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: why don't options get their own mpsics like in NORMAL SANE PEOPLE LAND
jcpham: selling all the things today
deadweasel: ;;later tell mjr_ #BTCPro is discussing buttonwood and your blog write up of it, they like it.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jcpham: btct.co exit
jcpham: buy all the cheap things
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.188 BTC [+]
deadweasel: what cheap things are you buying?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.021594 = 0.108 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000646 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
deadweasel: don't worry, I'm all cash except cold storage, i won't steal your cheap things
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [+]
b0n1: do you leave your BTC on your gox acc? how do you estimate the risk?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.188 = 4.376 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.188 = 4.376 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: b0n1 coins you can lose
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.188 = 13.128 BTC [+]
saulimus: can't you lose usd also? thieves can just buy coins with your usd and transfer out
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.6 = 8 BTC [-]
deadweasel: saulimus: coins are way easier to steal and spend again, electronic funds can be reversed
deadweasel: but you're right
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.6 = 4.8 BTC [-]
deadweasel: if they had trade access and withdraw access, they could
deadweasel: but you'd have to have really lax security measure for that to happen.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 63 @ 0.02148899 = 1.3538 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.6 = 4.8 BTC [-]
deadweasel: I only use info and trade on my api keys
saulimus: I read on reddit some cases where 2fa was on but they still stole everything
b0n1: if your account password gets hacked, both fiat and btc can be stolen easily like
b0n1: i think this one way password makes things much safer
b0n1: but does it work for you?
kakobrekla: i have yubikey
kakobrekla: and im not in sauna
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02149 = 0.086 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: AM is solomining now
ThickAsThieves: signing blocks
kakobrekla: about time
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.189 = 4.378 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: tx in ROmania hehe
kakobrekla: supernodes concentration
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.198 = 4.396 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: check out the wallet that received the reward
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02149 = 0.0645 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 525 @ 0.02149 = 11.2823 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.021592 = 0.108 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.021593 = 0.2159 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 65 @ 0.02149 = 1.3969 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: gee look at all thos 30 btcs
jcpham: anyone selling ripple?
ThickAsThieves: I'll sell at 10x market price
jcpham: deadweasel i'm exiting
inhies: ThickAsThieves: is there any way to find other blocks that were mined by them
jcpham: all the securities
ThickAsThieves: inhies thats the first one
ThickAsThieves: not sure otherwise
jcpham: time to go. you guys have fun. i'm getting that glbse feeling
ThickAsThieves: care to elaborate
ThickAsThieves: or just paranoia
jcpham: right before glbse closed i felt like i should've sold everything
jcpham: that feeling is back
jcpham: thanks for TAT.ASICMINER
jcpham: that was fun
inhies: jcpham: sell me your shares 4 cheap plz
inhies: thx
ThickAsThieves: well shoot
jcpham: all gone
ThickAsThieves: so you have nothing but spider sense?
ThickAsThieves: or do you know somehting
jcpham: true story
jcpham: all smoke and mirrors
jcpham: paranoia and nothing else.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1875 BTC [-]
deadweasel: jcpham: i respect that. guts often know things our conscious minds don't.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00067089 = 18.0469 BTC [+]
jcpham: i wish you the nest
deadweasel: maybe it's the flora in your gut, it noes more than your brains!
jcpham: *best
deadweasel: jcpham: i'm out of assets too and BTC, except for my cold storage egg
jcpham: mostly assets i'm talking about
jcpham: might be worst time ever to exit
jcpham: shrug
deadweasel: it's all hindsight.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.187 = 4.374 BTC [-]
deadweasel: kick yourself later.
mircea_popescu: i wish you the nest is not so bad
Chaaang-Noi: why you all selling?
jcpham: dumping is what i'm doing
jcpham: all shares.lowest price
jcpham: time to go
Chaaang-Noi: hmm okay
deadweasel: i did what jcpham did for the same reasons. course it was self-fulfilling prophecy as I dumped sdice.
jcpham: i won enough
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 226 @ 0.02149 = 4.8567 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: i slowly sell as it goes up, so i always win, unless it goes down, and i just by more, sop i win later :)
jcpham: i'm more concerned with my locality
jcpham: which isn't the usa
Chaaang-Noi: oh, closing down your asset?
Chaaang-Noi: or selling off assets and your btc?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6 @ 0.00279 = 0.0167 BTC [+]
jcpham: ripple.
jcpham: mircea was disgusted at ripple comment
jcpham: left channel
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.154202 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.154201 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1542 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1542 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.112101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1121 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.112001 = 4.224 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.106 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.103001 BTC [-]
jcpham: asicminer passthorugh still looks sexy
aknap3: damn shame to see those go so cheap
ThickAsThieves: someone just depsoited 1000 shares to BTCTC
ThickAsThieves: bye bye 2.19
deadweasel: it does, but sexy is expensive.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02165119 = 0.065 BTC [+]
jcpham: i was buying at .6 or so
jcpham: can't remember
jcpham: unreal
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.103001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.103 = 10.515 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.1005 = 6.3015 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.050001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.0353 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.0352 = 6.1056 BTC [-]
parseval: It's raining asicminer drops
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.0351 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.035 = 10.175 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: let him sell
ThickAsThieves: his own loss for being impatient
aknap3: means we don't get sniped later
ThickAsThieves: he couldve made much more on auction
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00067071 = 5.5334 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.02150001 = 3.225 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1204 @ 0.0215 = 25.886 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0215 = 0.1075 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.02145 = 0.8795 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0215 = 0.0645 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.021102 = 0.0633 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0211 = 0.6119 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.021011 = 0.084 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.02101 = 0.4202 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.021 = 0.819 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [+]
deadweasel: In my job just now, I was writing up a defect, and I wrote 'cointained' instead of 'contained'.
deadweasel: cointaind, sounds like a daemon for something interesting.
deadweasel: i'm running cointaind v.81 :P
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P122N] 26 @ 0.18066167 = 4.6972 BTC
FabianB: not enough trades for OIX currently it seems
ThickAsThieves: that was bookmarked on one of my client's laptops
ThickAsThieves: when he asked me to set up his email
ThickAsThieves: he's flaming gay so i didnt bother acting surprised
jborkl: wait, are you a prostitue?
deadweasel: ThickAsThieves, lulz, i used to do IT work for small/medium sized biz... the shit I would clean out of some of their computers.... man.
jborkl: you said client, so IDK
deadweasel: he's a prostitute that sets up your email.
deadweasel: the best kind.
ThickAsThieves: will suck for btc
jborkl: lol
deadweasel: i think he's srs.
jborkl: whatever floats your boat, not my place to judge
asa1024: <- will have sex with chicks for btc
ThickAsThieves: it's the straight clients you gotta watch out for!
ThickAsThieves: welcome to 20 minutes ago
ThickAsThieves: hmm time flies
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.1 = 21 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: been busy :/
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.129998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0215 = 1.075 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02145 = 0.1931 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.042002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.042001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.042 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.036 = 6.108 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.0353 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.03501 = 12.2101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 90 @ 0.021 = 1.89 BTC [-]
aknap3: so that solo block -- geoip puts it in .... Romania.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.035 = 4.07 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: mp printing money
ThickAsThieves: what did you expect
aknap3: I expected elaborate conspiracy theories
aknap3: ie: friedcat is actually hired by mp to take care of the mining side of the operation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0213 = 1.065 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: awesome kako
ThickAsThieves: i'm way behind on my register reading
aknap3: great article! Wow
ThickAsThieves: it's an interesting turn for Canada, they could benefit greatly from being the un-USA in a lot of ways
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.02119 = 0.2119 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 190 @ 0.0211 = 4.009 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0213 = 0.0639 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19117 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.191 = 0.382 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.19 = 0.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.19 = 0.76 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: crypto-trade, should be live in 2 weeks (tm)
aknap3: we already benefit from being the un-USA
ThickAsThieves: ("2 weeks" is trademark of the Butterfly Labs Corporation. All rights reserved.)
aknap3: right up there with 9000
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02159999 = 0.0432 BTC [+]
deadweasel: kakobrekla, good read. i doubt there will be much bitcoin-tourism just yet, but a few more FinCen fuck ups and we might.
aknap3: I live 5 mins from the border -- we cross even if gas is cheaper on the other side.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0213 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02144 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.02144 = 0.4931 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 473 @ 0.02144 = 10.1411 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.129998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.166 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.166599 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1666 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.02159999 = 0.432 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.02145 = 1.0296 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 399 @ 0.02144 = 8.5546 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 13 @ 1.5251 = 19.8263 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.02144 = 1.0291 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7479 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.748 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.165999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.105001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.100002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.1 = 4.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.02159999 = 0.324 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
gribble: 81743.5618554
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.165999 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: what hapnd?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.165999 BTC [+]
mod6: ;;bc,blocks
gribble: 237093
mod6: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 32 minutes and 52 seconds
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 237088 | Current Difficulty: 1.1187257461360792E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 237887 | Next Difficulty In: 799 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 17 hours, 57 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11878854.0343 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.182
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.164 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 57 @ 0.02149 = 1.2249 BTC [+]
mod6: blockchain.info shows the last block as 237088
aknap3: all the GPU miners collectively gave up
jurov: i herd someone spilled beer on power strips
ThickAsThieves: jurov how am i sposed to bank off you if the hash goes down
mod6: but http://blockexplorer.com/ shows 237093 as newest block
jborkl: block chain info is wrong
jurov: nope. im sposed to bank off you
jborkl: 237093
mod6: yeah blockchain.info is behind again... was talking about it in -otc
mod6: not sure if that has anything to do with the nethash drop
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.161999 BTC [-]
mod6: im guessing not...
jurov: litecoin hashrate jumped up a bit, peaked 2 days ago
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02159999 = 0.108 BTC [+]
jurov: not sure how much, can't find better charts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.03 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0216 = 0.108 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 85 @ 0.02169 = 1.8437 BTC [+]
aknap3: 3 ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.135 BTC [-]
aknap3: really?
ThickAsThieves: is ltc dying again?
aknap3: <assbot> [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.03 = 0.3 BTC [+]
aknap3: yah
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.02149 = 0.1934 BTC [+]
aknap3: that's what she said
ThickAsThieves: thats not right
aknap3: hey, maybe it's a put executing :)
ThickAsThieves: no options
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.135 = 4.27 BTC [-]
aknap3: I know :(
ThickAsThieves: thats really weird
ThickAsThieves: someone just paid more somehow
aknap3: I want to be that seller!
ThickAsThieves: it wasnt me
aknap3: It's in the history there too
aknap3: gotta be a bug
aknap3: pretty serious if so
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 156 @ 0.02169 = 3.3836 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 509 @ 0.02169 = 11.0402 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.02169 = 0.3254 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 206 @ 0.02169 = 4.4681 BTC [+]
deadweasel: the bug is not fat fingers?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 80 @ 0.02175119 = 1.7401 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0217512 = 0.435 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.02159999 = 0.216 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.02150001 = 1.075 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 440 @ 0.0215 = 9.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.134999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.135 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 400 @ 0.00273 = 1.092 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00067071 = 4.1584 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.02149 = 0.4513 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.000697 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.02169 = 1.0845 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 884 @ 0.00067089 = 0.5931 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13886 @ 0.00067165 = 9.3265 BTC [+]
b0n1: ;;genrate 60000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 60000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 11187257.4614, is 2.69721074089 BTC per day and 0.11238378087 BTC per hour.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000646 = 0.0065 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.070002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.07 BTC [-]
b0n1: hey guys! I just recognized that i still have an old pending pre order for a bfl 60 ghs miner for the old price of only 1300 $. Would you buy it when they ship to the end of april?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.07 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.065201 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.0652 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.065 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.0602 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.05001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.0461 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.046 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.0402 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.035 = 6.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.030001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 2.03 = 26.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 33 @ 0.000697 = 0.023 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021459 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0212 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.021101 = 0.422 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02155001 = 0.1078 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02155 = 0.194 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0215 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 69 @ 0.02130001 = 1.4697 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.021 = 0.315 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.011 = 20.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.01004 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.01002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 2.01 = 16.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.97 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.965 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.95001 = 3.9 BTC [-]
parseval: I wonder if this is all Deadterra
parseval: Oh, wrong exchange
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.02071 = 0.6834 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.021458 = 0.0429 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.132997 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.132998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.13298 = 10.6649 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00273 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.11 = 12.66 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 39 @ 0.02135 = 0.8327 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0207 = 2.07 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: mp prints all teh coinz
thestringpuller: ;;seen mod6
gribble: mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 32 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <mod6> im guessing not...
thestringpuller: where is dat negro
mod6: haha whatup
thestringpuller: y u so cray cray mod6
thestringpuller: u werk 2 hard
mod6: i've been workin uber hard lately :/
mod6: bunch of all night server migrations
mod6: stuff drives me crazy
mod6: whats the word? how's school goin?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.099 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.020702 = 0.2691 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.020701 = 0.3726 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.02065 = 0.6815 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: lots more time
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.02065 = 0.3098 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: I'm a bit sick but starting to recover.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1006 @ 0.00067071 = 0.6747 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8523 @ 0.00067053 = 5.7149 BTC [-]
mod6: thestringpuller: bah that sucks. you take the summer off though right?
fiat500: b0n1: end of april?
fiat500: what year? :P
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0206 = 0.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 59 @ 0.0203 = 1.1977 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: nah I'm in classes
thestringpuller: but I'm no working so I get time to chill
ThickAsThieves: I want a Nexus S4 but the size of a Note 2 and a battery that lasts 3 days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.021512 = 0.1076 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: any suggetions?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2391 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.109999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1628 BTC [+]
deadweasel: ThickAsThieves, i keep waiting to get a new phone and they just keep getting better, so I wait.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1629 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I have a Nexus S
deadweasel: this old 3gs is about crapped out. ajilbroken and wacky
ThickAsThieves: but no plan
deadweasel: but was free
deadweasel: how do you manage no plan?
deadweasel: prepaid?
ThickAsThieves: bought it from overseas, a white one
ThickAsThieves: I used Line2 VOIP
ThickAsThieves: with a mifi
deadweasel: stable?
ThickAsThieves: i dont even like being called
deadweasel: me either, thankfully only my small family calls me
ThickAsThieves: so i cancelled line2
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.1628 = 6.4884 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: and still have the mifi
ThickAsThieves: and use my GalaxyTab
ThickAsThieves: which has a GREAT battery
ThickAsThieves: but is starting to act up
mod6: (14:03) < thestringpuller> but I'm no working so I get time to chill << well at least you'll have some time to rest up during the summer.
deadweasel: i'd just get a prepaid old school nokia
deadweasel: with minutes that don't expire
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.021512 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i just want a state-of-the-art tablet or jumbo phone
deadweasel: i don't want to carry a whole computer around all the time
ThickAsThieves: that has 4g and a nice battery
ThickAsThieves: we cant google make like a Note 3
deadweasel: hello Willdude123
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 4 days, 5 hours, 30 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
thestringpuller: So smickles is dead.
thestringpuller: so one mpex original was assassinated by drones
deadweasel: thestringpuller you always say that
thestringpuller: Damn you Obama
Willdude123: I now have bought a sensible amount of shares of asicm. I have 0.13
ThickAsThieves: sensible
Willdude123: Prepared to lose.
ThickAsThieves: then hand em over
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 297 @ 0.00066863 = 0.1986 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8067 @ 0.00067165 = 5.4182 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1459 @ 0.00067195 = 0.9804 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
thestringpuller: Is it coincidental everytime someone sells short to the bot the price moves?
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin is worth 0 now
ThickAsThieves: game over
ThickAsThieves: try litecoins
mod6: there were some next month puts that traded earlier
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.163 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.164399 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.1644 = 6.4932 BTC [+]
mod6: (11:01) <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.P122N] 26 @ 0.18066167 = 4.6972 BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.021095 = 0.1899 BTC [+]
jurov: no mention of drones, tho
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26183 @ 0.00067195 = 17.5937 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2117 @ 0.00067324 = 1.4252 BTC [+]
jurov: jkjkjk it's not him
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.021512 = 0.4948 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.239 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 227 @ 0.021512 = 4.8832 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.021512 = 0.1076 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1642 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.1643 = 10.8215 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.16435 = 6.4931 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.02168999 = 0.2386 BTC [+]
fiat500: ThickAsThieves: not sure if serious
fiat500: i have the hardest time figuring out who is trolling here and who isnt
jurov: fiat500 we're stretching your mind, it's healthy
thestringpuller: fiat500: this channel is for bitcoin finance; a lot has been discussed here, you just have to sit and listen
thestringpuller: it's not too difficult to filter the bullshit from the real shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 49 @ 0.02168999 = 1.0628 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 181 @ 0.02169 = 3.9259 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02061 = 0.0618 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1647 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 69 @ 0.02169 = 1.4966 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.02175119 = 0.87 BTC [+]
jurov: bullshit from batshit?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.0208 = 0.624 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 137 @ 0.0217512 = 2.9799 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0217512 = 0.2175 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.0217512 = 0.3698 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.02091 = 0.1882 BTC [+]
dub: all trolling all the time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00066753 = 5.4737 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00066751 = 5.1732 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.0006654 = 7.3527 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.0006649 = 0.266 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0208 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0217512 = 0.087 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.1645 = 6.4935 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1645 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.0217512 = 0.3045 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0208 = 0.1248 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.0208 = 0.5824 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.020911 = 0.6273 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.30114, Best ask: 121.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.39885, Last trade: 121.70000, 24 hour volume: 17266.03033417, 24 hour low: 120.10000, 24 hour high: 123.69000, 24 hour vwap: 122.32473
mircea_popescu: ahh this beautiful stability.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.021095 = 0.0633 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00066023 = 0.6602 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.021095 = 0.211 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.021095 = 0.0422 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.021094 = 0.0633 BTC [-]
fiat500: mircea_popescu: temporary consolidation on the long winding road of uncertainty
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.2611 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 231 @ 0.0217512 = 5.0245 BTC [+]
jborkl: Change the title to AM, noobs pay again!
jborkl: until next time
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.215016 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.021094 = 0.2109 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02165 = 0.1949 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.02160001 = 10.8 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: jborkl i'm not really much inviolved with am.
mircea_popescu: that aside, i'm sure they'll be paying someone.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 127 @ 0.0215 = 2.7305 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 73 @ 0.0215 = 1.5695 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.0215 = 0.2365 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 46 @ 0.021011 = 0.9665 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.021094 = 0.1477 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.021095 = 0.4852 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.0212 = 0.7844 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 57 @ 0.0213 = 1.2141 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.021333 = 0.896 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021199 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.100421 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.499 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010096 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.0217512 = 0.2393 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 81 @ 0.0217512 = 1.7618 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0217512 = 0.174 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.021199 = 0.1272 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 451 @ 0.0217512 = 9.8098 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.16 = 4.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00065924 = 5.8672 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00065942 = 6.0007 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 49 @ 0.0217 = 1.0633 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50700 @ 0.00066442 = 33.6861 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 206 @ 0.02179 = 4.4887 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.0214 = 0.7918 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.159999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.0217512 = 0.1523 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1644 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.1645 = 6.4935 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.16487 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1659 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.1659 = 6.4977 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.0214 = 0.5136 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1658 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.1658 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.166 = 10.83 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 47 @ 0.0217 = 1.0199 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 47 @ 0.02175119 = 1.0223 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 186 @ 0.0217512 = 4.0457 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0214 = 0.0642 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.0214 = 0.4922 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.165 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.165 = 10.825 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 14 @ 0.000697 = 0.0098 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.020821 = 0.0416 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.020821 = 0.0625 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;seen mircea_popescu
thestringpuller: ;;gribble
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 44 minutes and 7 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> that aside, i'm sure they'll be paying someone.
gribble: yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: can I speak with you via pm for a second?
mircea_popescu: please do.
ThickAsThieves: pm = wherethefuckissmickles!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves maybe he just wants to tell me random insane shit i said x time ago finally made sense to him.
ThickAsThieves: who knows
ThickAsThieves: well, you do
ThickAsThieves: mp i'm wondering that now we are stable at 120ish, after all the bubbliness
ThickAsThieves: where you think we're headed
ThickAsThieves: it seems to me the bottom his risen
mircea_popescu: perhaps.
mircea_popescu: well, you know... it's bitcoin. the only way is up (up! up!)
ThickAsThieves: i do think the next sign of up up up will give us another bubble
ThickAsThieves: but just wondering if you have any fundamental insight to the "natural" price in the next few mos
mircea_popescu: reasonably, the long term prospect of bitcoin is up. the long term prospect of volatility is down.
mircea_popescu: this aside... turbulence ahoy.
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.00000, Best ask: 122.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 122.20000, 24 hour volume: 17188.92127316, 24 hour low: 120.10000, 24 hour high: 123.69000, 24 hour vwap: 122.31359
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 130
gribble: There are currently 22499.007 bitcoins offered at or under 130.0 USD, worth 2863039.22976 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0190 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
gribble: 80422.9190067
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves maybe he just wants to tell me random insane shit i said x time ago finally made sense to him. << pretty much, i don't want to spam the channel. mp is good people for this very reason.
ThickAsThieves: the channel lives through much worse daily
ThickAsThieves: but i can respect you wanting privacy
ThickAsThieves: s'all good
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> the channel lives through much worse daily << it's kind of funny to me, this.
mircea_popescu: more than a year ago i left bitcoin-otc over a dispute about moderation.
mircea_popescu: that channel has gone pretty much to shit, in spite of a lot of rules, a lot of dicking about and a lot of nonsense.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0217512 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i popped in there like once
mircea_popescu: this channel is pretty much the best venue in all of bitcoin, in spite of there being no mods and nobody giving a shit
ThickAsThieves: not for me
mircea_popescu: the free market proves its superiority again and again and again
mircea_popescu: yet people NEVER are willing to just do the right thing for fucks sake.
truffles: TAT which channel?
ThickAsThieves: we must learn for ourselves sometimes
ThickAsThieves: to hear something isnt always the same as understanding it
mircea_popescu: i guess so.
ThickAsThieves: i certainly ignored some things i shouldnt have early on
ThickAsThieves: but i learned those lessons forever
ThickAsThieves: by fuckingg up
mircea_popescu: or so you think :)
ThickAsThieves: like elation makes me so uncomforable now
mircea_popescu: wait wut ?
ThickAsThieves: whethe ri tbe mine or someone elses
ThickAsThieves: (regarding finance)
ThickAsThieves: like everyone clamoring for AM
mircea_popescu: i thought you left out an f there or something
ThickAsThieves: or talking about how bitcoin will be $500 soon once it had hit $250
ThickAsThieves: i mean i could go on and on the things i've learned
ThickAsThieves: and all around
ThickAsThieves: and i still need to learn more
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that was so funny, how keiser deleted all his content
mircea_popescu: i laughed for days
ThickAsThieves: hell i even bought difficulty futures
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.16 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you know, the one annoying thing hitler did was... he didn;t simply kill all the jews he could get.
mircea_popescu: he killed the cool jews. at the time european jews were mostly hasiddic
mircea_popescu: which happens to be a pretty smart way to look at life and everything.
mircea_popescu: one of the chief points thereof being that if you ain't laughing you ain't got it.
ThickAsThieves: ive never known many jews
ThickAsThieves: like 2 in grade school
mircea_popescu: well 10yo people aren't particularly jewish or anything else. just kids.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021399 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: they taught me to dreidel what are you talkin bought
ThickAsThieves: one jewish kid tried to pull baseball card scams on me
mircea_popescu: baseball card scams ?!
ThickAsThieves: making something out to be super old
ThickAsThieves: like some honus wagner card
ThickAsThieves: and trying to get me to buy it
mircea_popescu: hahaha. i forgot those cards were like kid currency
ThickAsThieves: so he was randomly doing some collectible radio show with his dad once
ThickAsThieves: and i called in
ThickAsThieves: and descrivbed the card
ThickAsThieves: and asked for a valuation on air
ThickAsThieves: i forget so much about childhood, but i remember that
ThickAsThieves: yeah as kids we dealth in cards, candy, and cassingles
ThickAsThieves: those were the days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00065885 = 10.0804 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 137 @ 0.02175 = 2.9798 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.145 = 4.29 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.021399 = 0.0856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00065832 = 15.3389 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00066442 = 4.1526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00067329 = 7.1032 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0214 = 0.1284 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21887 @ 0.00067366 = 14.7444 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14816 @ 0.00067463 = 9.9953 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00067534 = 11.5483 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.0006756 = 10.2353 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10947 @ 0.00067599 = 7.4001 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 653 @ 0.00067599 = 0.4414 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19644 @ 0.00067636 = 13.2864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00067666 = 12.4505 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.0006769 = 7.0736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28868 @ 0.00067734 = 19.5535 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00068 = 5.032 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.499 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 202 @ 0.02175 = 4.3935 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.16 = 4.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.166 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.166 = 4.332 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 61 @ 0.02175 = 1.3268 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.166 BTC [+]
truffles: well that was interesting
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 64 @ 0.0214 = 1.3696 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0217512 = 0.1958 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.0217512 = 0.2393 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 227 @ 0.0217512 = 4.9375 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves thestringpuller ^
mircea_popescu: you're both famouser nao.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0214 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0214 = 1.07 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.16699 = 21.6699 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.0217512 = 0.1305 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 169 @ 0.02175 = 3.6758 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 191 @ 0.0214 = 4.0874 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 148 @ 0.0217512 = 3.2192 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0212 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.17 = 4.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.021489 = 0.3008 BTC [+]
deadweasel: superservant indeed. go show though.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 137 @ 0.02178998 = 2.9852 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's a fact tho. for the past year or so kakobrekla has been acting the superservant, and as a result the chan came to dominate bitcoin discussion.
mircea_popescu: and in general, whenever someone is willing to play the superservant, his thing will be a hub of conversation.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason people met in inns historically.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: inns and coffeehouses
thestringpuller: for discussion
mircea_popescu: well teahouses to be fair to the actually larger azn tradition
mircea_popescu: but yet.
mircea_popescu: and if there's a superservant avatar, the gheisha is it.
truffles: oh who has the biggest e-penis ..
deadweasel: *good show, shit. stupid hand is still learning to type.
mircea_popescu: did you have ti broken ?
deadweasel: just bad sprain.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: to go along the avenue of inn's teahouses coffeehouses et al.
thestringpuller: I wish we had a newsbot or some avenue.
thestringpuller: As coffeehouses were frequented a lot for the latest news.
mircea_popescu: i don;'t think that can work as an automated thing. i think it has to be curated
mircea_popescu: hence i've been pushing for people to make blogs since forever.
mircea_popescu: it's a rare skill tho. and drudge is old.
thestringpuller: well lots of drudge in general
mircea_popescu: we need a new eccentric faggot in a hat.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 126 @ 0.02178998 = 2.7455 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: i try to use /r/bitcoin
thestringpuller: but it has a lot of wankery
mircea_popescu: it has so much wankery in fact that it's not usually on the lists of what i have summarized
mircea_popescu: as it doesn't seem to justify the time expenditure
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02178999 BTC [+]
deadweasel: hey, in the forums, what does it mean when your name is orangered?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 99 @ 0.02178999 = 2.1572 BTC [+]
truffles: thought orange was mod, red admin?
deadweasel: misterbigg orangered me.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 92 @ 0.0218 = 2.0056 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: uh what ?
deadweasel: truffles how do you know that?
deadweasel: did you read a manual of some sort?
truffles: i dont, just from other forums
truffles: maybe super trusted member
deadweasel: All I did was back up what he said.
mircea_popescu: o0 hey, do ignores now give people a cool backing for their name ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 140 @ 0.0218512 = 3.0592 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 2.179 = 23.969 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.18 = 13.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 372 @ 0.0218512 = 8.1286 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021489 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.187 = 6.561 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.021489 = 0.086 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.187 = 10.935 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0219512 = 0.0439 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: liked the blog mp, I'd be interested in more before-my-time-excerpts in the future
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.021489 = 0.3008 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.1875 = 8.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.19 = 8.76 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i guess i should probly pour through old trilema posts sometime
mircea_popescu: as you keep jogging my memory im sure it'll happen
mircea_popescu: it's pore you know
ThickAsThieves: is it? heh
ThickAsThieves: there goes my writing career
mircea_popescu: yeah, to pour a liquid, to pore over a text/collection
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.02169 = 0.7592 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: don't worry, hemingway couldn't spell either
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.19 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i also type faster than my fingers can handle
ThickAsThieves: causing more errors than most
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.19 BTC [+]
truffles: u type faster than me somehow :o
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.02169 = 0.6507 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0219512 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ahaha look what i found
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.02169 = 0.4338 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.0219512 = 0.2854 BTC [+]
truffles: {gmaxwell} There is this great concept in social sciences called evaporative cooling, where people drive out everyone who isn’t likeminded making a more and more homogeneous group.>>>> i guess thats what this channel aims for
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 496 @ 0.0219512 = 10.8878 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 372 @ 0.02225 = 8.277 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 88 @ 0.02225 = 1.958 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: da fuck, looks just like s.mpoe
dub: is truffles butthurt that he isnt making friends?
truffles: i dunno, i didnt join these channels to make besties
dub: what is teh beef then
dub: you seem to be raging against teh -assets
mircea_popescu: and i thought truffles was a girl anyway
truffles: raging?
dub: every time I look in there there is an emo comment
dub: 'everyone here sayys im a troll :('
mircea_popescu: cutting is the answe.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.195 = 6.585 BTC [+]
truffles: well maybe u i need to learn how to express myself like u dub
dub: or quoting a complete shitbag like gmax
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.195 BTC [+]
truffles: i dunno who that is
truffles: r u upset that i lumped u into the herd mentality
mircea_popescu: he is only incidentally in there
mircea_popescu: much like his "involvement" in bitcoin generally.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 55 @ 0.02169 = 1.193 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: gmax is one of thr Almighty Devs
mircea_popescu: that's a myth.
mircea_popescu: the gspot exists tho.
ThickAsThieves: the gmax spot
dub: obv truffles is upset about something
truffles: dub u rarely speak itc!
ThickAsThieves: he's mad we dont like hockey
truffles: hockey is on atm
dub: aha
dub: he's from finland
mircea_popescu: no way ?!
dub: say no more
mircea_popescu: dude what sorcery did the russians do to finland
truffles: im not that into sports, i just watch if its on..
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is all the fun i can take for one day. see you all later.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.02225 = 0.89 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 730 @ 0.022 = 16.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.0219512 = 10.9756 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.02141 = 0.5353 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.0006839 = 1.5046 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.1984 = 6.5952 BTC [+]
truffles: dub do come back, ur above brow humor is new to me
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 59 @ 0.02169 = 1.2797 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0222512 = 0.445 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0219512 = 0.0878 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.1984 = 4.3968 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.199 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.199 = 6.597 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.5 = 2.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.02169 = 0.2603 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 52 @ 0.00261 = 0.1357 BTC [-]
truffles: what is a nerd/geek sport, watching the btc ticker?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.0026 = 0.065 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: video games
truffles: i play cod..
truffles: someone recommended morrowind, will play someday
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.02169 = 0.3904 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02209512 = 0.0663 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0217 = 0.0651 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0217 = 0.1519 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0217 = 0.0651 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0217 = 0.1519 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.02171 = 0.2388 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.022 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.021798 = 0.6103 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 78 @ 0.022 = 1.716 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.02205 = 0.1544 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 444 @ 0.02209512 = 9.8102 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 71 @ 0.02209512 = 1.5688 BTC [+]
jborkl: so. i wonder how the solo mining is working out for AM?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02209512 = 0.0442 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.02209512 = 1.1048 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.021798 = 0.218 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.021798 = 0.5667 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 99 @ 0.021798 = 2.158 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.0026 = 0.039 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 179 @ 0.02209512 = 3.955 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.021798 = 0.0654 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02209512 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0217 = 0.0651 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 580 @ 0.00279 = 1.6182 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1937 @ 0.000646 = 1.2513 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 197 @ 0.02209512 = 4.3527 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.02209512 = 1.1048 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 47 @ 0.02209512 = 1.0385 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 11 @ 0.10899 = 1.1989 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 2.199 = 28.587 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 2.2 = 44 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.021798 = 2.1798 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0217 = 0.0651 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.02209512 = 0.3314 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 177 @ 0.02209512 = 3.9108 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 13 @ 0.00275 = 0.0358 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.02209512 = 0.4419 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.00121 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.021799 = 0.1962 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00068 = 14.144 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 57 @ 0.02209512 = 1.2594 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.021799 = 1.6349 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0219 = 0.1095 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.02209512 = 0.5082 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 454 @ 0.02209512 = 10.0312 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0219 = 0.0438 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0219 = 0.0438 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0219 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.022 = 0.154 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.022 = 0.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 2.288 = 18.304 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 206 @ 0.02209512 = 4.5516 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.289 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.289 = 11.445 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 2.289 = 68.67 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.34495 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 2.345 = 18.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 900 @ 0.0222512 = 20.0261 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 2.35 = 49.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.35 = 9.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.39 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.10799 = 0.54 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.393 = 9.572 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 2.393 = 38.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0225 = 0.225 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.479 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: price has gotten away
ThickAsThieves: 2.5 top i hope
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.499 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: come on 10 btc am !!! :)
jcpham: boo
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.022 = 0.176 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: someone just did a massive buy?
ThickAsThieves: i pulled my asks
ThickAsThieves: they got too many
Chaaang-Noi: my asks got filled
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.0224 = 0.2464 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: some of them
aknap3: I'm having to rewrite all my calls now
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.499 = 9.996 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.5 = 5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.022499 = 0.675 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.2578 = 0.5156 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: aknap3: on asicminer?
Chaaang-Noi: this is me ;)
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.022499 = 1.1924 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0225 = 0.225 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: yeah arb play!
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.0225 = 0.2475 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 912 @ 0.022511 = 20.53 BTC [+]
aknap3: well I had some calls listed at a total cost of 2.65 .. that's too low now, so I had to pull them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0225 = 0.1125 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0225 = 0.045 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.023 = 0.207 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.479 = 4.958 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0222512 = 0.0445 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0222512 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: you shouldn't be underwriting calls so low when the price is moving
aknap3: I didn't expect it to move so soon -- I managed to save them all
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 17 @ 0.51 = 8.67 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.02499 = 2.499 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.02200005 = 0.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 68 @ 0.000697 = 0.0474 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.51 = 4.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02200005 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02200005 = 0.198 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.51 = 1.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 2.479 = 19.832 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.023001 = 0.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.025999 = 0.234 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 183 @ 0.026 = 4.758 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.023 = 0.115 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.02395 = 0.3353 BTC [+]
aknap3: Lord have mercy
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.49 = 9.96 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: has tehre been some news about AM?
louong: when has there not been news about AM?
Chaaang-Noi: what is the newest news? i just woke up
louong: AM breaks 2.5?
Chaaang-Noi: that news does not support the recent price,
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.48 BTC [-]
aknap3: better go back to the forum.... er trollbox and let them know it fell back below 2.5
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.48 BTC [-]
inhies: wow
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.450003 BTC [-]
inhies: thats nuts
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.450002 BTC [-]
louong: sell sell sell
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.023949 = 0.0479 BTC [-]
inhies: this could be the final surge before the crash
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.41 BTC [-]
Chaaang-Noi: we will hit 3 btc soon, all the haters already sold :)
inhies: lol
inhies: i sold
inhies: then bought back :p
jcpham: ha
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.023949 BTC [-]
louong: asicminer helped cover me and more for my btc trading losses
jcpham: i did too inhies
inhies: jcpham: werent you saying fuck this im out just yesterday?
aknap3: bitfunder still at 2.11
inhies: i only sold like 40% and only because orders i had placed went through while i was out and about
jcpham: i'm weaving in and out
inhies: maybe its the news that am is going solo?
inhies: i dunno
jcpham: can't miss the show
louong: solo block p0wnage
jcpham: yep
jcpham: in a word
louong: coins so pure, straight from the source zomg
Chaaang-Noi: i think no one just wants to sell, and lots of people want in
inhies: yea
inhies: tahts what its looking like
inhies: any estimates for divs?
inhies: i feel like they probaly sold a lot of blades
inhies: but those are just feelings :p
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0225 = 0.3825 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.022499 = 0.225 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 63 @ 0.022499 = 1.4174 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.023949 = 0.4071 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 107 @ 0.02395 = 2.5627 BTC [+]
Chaaang-Noi: selling a lot of blads and having a massive divdend will jsut make the price jump
Chaaang-Noi: to like 3 or maybe 3.5
inhies: yea
inhies: im hoping for a 1btc dividend
louong: unreal
louong: the scary thing is
louong: once they set up that email for sales
louong: it went all stealth
louong: instead of the auctions
louong: you can't see how many orders they are getting
inhies: yea
inhies: tahts the only crappy thing
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