thimbronion: asciilifeform: how would you know if any public figure is not reading a script?
asciilifeform: thimbronion: you wouldn't necessarily (e.g. napoleon ~could~ in principle have read script from beelzebub). but usually quite obvious when ~is~ reading
thimbronion: asciilifeform: the problem is that I have no way to prove that Trump, Sulla, Napoleon, Alexander wasn't reading a script. I would need access to the screenplay before the screening.
asciilifeform: see above.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: saw
thimbronion: was infact involved in the thread
asciilifeform: i'm satisfied, for instance, that e.g. kennedy deviated from his script.
thimbronion: Did Zhirinovsky ever win executive office?
asciilifeform: sat in parliament since '90
thimbronion: If not, Zhirinovsky seems more like a David Duke.
asciilifeform: what office did duke hold ?
thimbronion: Some state congress - but not any executive office. Was for many years the media white nationalist darling used to assocate with anyone to the right of Trotsky.
thimbronion: There is some other guy currently.
asciilifeform: not quite same item then. 'zhirik' is well-known figure, initially put in charge of '1st non-kpss party' (by kgp, project curator), then reliably elected to parliament where he plays ru equiv. of 'maga' ( picks up microphone, 'let's reconquer estonia and use to store nuke waste', 'let's nuke istanbul in revenge for the plane in syria', etc )
thimbronion: Anyway - not defending Trump - that gets you a lengthy federal trial. Just - viewing history as a series of automatons sucks the joy out of it to say the least.
asciilifeform: exists, proverbially, to make his colleagues look 'moderate'
asciilifeform: *kgb curator
asciilifeform: thimbronion: 'history' is happening, but not in white house. there -- theatrical performances.
thimbronion: Only point I disagree on is that script likely included war with Syria of Iran, but - somehow ended up on the cutting room floor.
asciilifeform: dunfughet venezuela..
asciilifeform: and indeed plenty of 'script on cutting room floor' in recent times, rather hilariously transparent to naked eye
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 12 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.104s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.144s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.146s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639769
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.265s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=235865 (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.229s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.397s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770
watchglass: 188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.513s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639771
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.039s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639771
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.)
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.)
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asciilifeform: hey whaack , tuned in ?
asciilifeform: whaack: if yer looking for reference on the block format , can try mine . afaik it is complete (aside from scriptisms)
asciilifeform: spyked when you get a chance, plz add whaack's www to the rss here, he has interesting proj.
asciilifeform: whaack: comment in yer spam queue.
whaack: asciilifeform: approved and responded
asciilifeform: ty
asciilifeform: whaack: answrd
asciilifeform: whaack: ask BingoBoingo re isps in CR, it is my understanding that he found several usable ones.
asciilifeform: incl. at least 1 colo house.
BingoBoingo: I am not unhappy with "Rack Nation"
asciilifeform: whaack: if you really want a signed copy of trb db (with the understanding that it comes with 0 warranty) i'ma make 1 for you, lemme know.
asciilifeform: whaack: if all you want is a very fast sync, simply bring up yer node with -connect 205.134.172.27 . almost same thing.
asciilifeform: (be sure to restart it with the usual params once actually synced.)
whaack: asciilifeform: would you consider that connect command "cheating" ?
whaack: As per my response I just sent, I would like to both test a traditional sync process + get a speed boosted sync in a few places.
whaack: asciilifeform: And thanks for the bitcoin data type reference, it seems to not mention whether those types are little or big endian, but maybe I need to take a closer look, I've just skimmed so far. Also ty for requesting my blog in your feed.
whaack: asciilifeform: I'll hold off on requesting a tarball of blk data until I have aother box up somewhere, so as to make sure that speed-syncs are done in parallel with (as opposed to in-place-of) traditional syncs
Apocalyptic: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-17#1016427 << mats: what does that sub get you exactly ? Most ctfs these day publish the challenges on github, with docker containers so you can set them up easily on any machines if you want to practice
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-17 12:30:21 mats: 'hackthebox' is fun and only 10eur/mo, best sub money i've ever spent
Apocalyptic: same goes for solutions and "walkthroughs", although if the set is really complete and goes quite a few years there might be some value to it
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-18#1016658 << meant 'cheat' in the sense where hypothetical 'from wild' sync not tested in the process, strictly. (it remains true however that ~all~ new trb users must know at least 1 working box, or cannot connect, recall)
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-18 18:59:31 whaack: asciilifeform: would you consider that connect command "cheating" ?
asciilifeform: whaack: asnwerd
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-18#1016660 << 100% of what trb stores on disk is little-endian (or, rather, machine-local-endian) .
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-18 19:12:40 whaack: asciilifeform: And thanks for the bitcoin data type reference, it seems to not mention whether those types are little or big endian, but maybe I need to take a closer look, I've just skimmed so far. Also ty for requesting my blog in your feed.
asciilifeform: in the block db, that is. ip addrs kept in the addr cache are big-endian (per unix tradition). (tho i dun expect these are relevant to your proggy)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-18#1016661 << in principle, erry time somebody takes the trouble to do a 'from 0' sync, it is a 'health test' of the net. i.e. useful thing to do.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-18 19:14:03 whaack: asciilifeform: I'll hold off on requesting a tarball of blk data until I have aother box up somewhere, so as to make sure that speed-syncs are done in parallel with (as opposed to in-place-of) traditional syncs
trinque: I'm a little sad to see even more stuff being written in python.
trinque: in other sads... "Some people find m4 to be fairly addictive. They first use m4 for simple problems, then take bigger and bigger challenges, learning how to write complex sets of m4 macros along the way. Once really addicted, users pursue writing of sophisticated m4 applications even to solve simple problems, devoting more time debugging their m4 scripts than doing real work. Beware that m4
trinque: may be dangerous for the health of compulsive programmers."
asciilifeform: trinque: 'at least aint perl'
asciilifeform: (granted, this is rather like 'at least yer shooting morphine, and not heroin')
trinque: perl's inextricable until somebody cuts off all the auto* bullshit from gcc
trinque has returned to that mess, took a break
asciilifeform: trinque: as for me, at finally picked back up docs for ffa ch21 , after lengthy break
asciilifeform: trinque: since you mentioned script langs: considering, after ffa, to attempt a 'dethompsonizing' simple gc-less scheme in asm, in style of 'M' as a scripting lang. can't speak for erryone, but i've wanted a <32kB scripting lang that 'compiles with bare hands' for many yrs.
trinque: this'd be a mighty fine thing.
trinque: sits atop linux still yes?
asciilifeform: historically it's been attempted before, but all the examples i know of made fundamental mistake (attempted to implement the reader in the proggy, rather than in the interp. bytecode. if you do the latter, whole thing is 100x simpler)
asciilifeform: trinque: initially sit on linux. but no particular reason why would have to 4evah
asciilifeform: trinque: for me, the big wake-up re 'there is NO reasonably clean script lang atm' was when wrote 'litmus' in what ( asciilifeform naively thought was ) pure 'sh'
asciilifeform: ( turned out in only worx in bash , and possibly not even all vers of bash )
asciilifeform: ... and there is NO native support for arrays in posix sh...
trinque: shell script is a pretty heinous programming env anyway, legitimized only by precedent, as all interminable human idiocies are.
trinque will be back shortly, has some ramen to collect
asciilifeform: trinque: i'd dearly like to throw out the pythons, perls, sh atrocities, etc. in favour of sumthing that makes some semblance of sense (incl. when its binary thrown into objdump -D ... )
trinque: meanwhile I've started another build of the spittoon, and have literally marked the root of the host as readonly to catch spit dribbles, which are apparently slooshing out despite the setting of DESTDIR.
asciilifeform: trinque: interesting; dun hesitate to post the barfola
trinque: brb
asciilifeform: thimbronion: (supposing you did not already know) yer crawler still loads 'robots.txt' 9000 times / site per crawl
asciilifeform: ( still moar oddly, does it even when 404 )
asciilifeform would offer to help find why, but thing seems to be written in a gnarly cobol..
mats: Apocalyptic: mostly convenience. its an accumulation - a web-based parrot instance (no need for docker/vm), 200+ labs+challenges+solutions in the same place, lots of AD labs i haven't seen anywhere else, gamification with a ranking system, jerb postings, automated cpe credit submission
mats: well, you dont need to pay for ranking or the job listings, but anyway the integration is nice
mats: for what amounts to the cost of one meal
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I have it open. Will check it out now.