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thimbronion: !ticker xbtusd
lekythion: Kraken XBTUSD: 18184.40000
thimbronion: Currently running an arm macbook.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: wondered about the horsepower on these vs. the traditional x86. try build ffa on it!
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I will give it a shot.
billymg: << what kind of OS are you running on it?
snsabot: Logged on 2020-11-20 08:50:41 thimbronion: Currently running an arm macbook.
thimbronion: billymg: OSX It's my toilet/consulting machine. I had to get it because the battery in my old macbook started expanding.
billymg: thimbronion: gotcha, looking now i see that a variant of their "pro" line also comes with this new chip
billymg: thought before it was only the "air" model
thimbronion: billymg: exactly
asciilifeform: thimbronion: i've been through 3 'balloon' batteries now..
thimbronion: asciilifeform: same
billymg must be lucky, had same macbook pro "retina" since 2012 and original battery still going strong
thimbronion: I wonder if it's because I rarely ever drain the battery...
billymg: thimbronion: was curious about the OS after reading this article (says that the new machines will ONLY boot on the latest version of macOS, so was wondering if that also applied to non-apple operating systems)
billymg: also describes brand new phone home system in the new (required) OS
billymg: "It turns out that in the current version of the macOS, the OS sends to Apple a hash (unique identifier) of each and every program you run, when you run it."
asciilifeform: thimbronion: all of my dead batteries had cycle count <4
asciilifeform: billymg: 'feature' copied from microshit/w10
thimbronion: billymg: I've also been looking at getting a system76 laptop.
thimbronion: billymg: hopefully as consulting winds down over the next year I can transition to something like that.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: i gave up long ago in chase for 'good laptop'
asciilifeform: there aint any, and not likely to be.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I won't contest that.
billymg: thimbronion: i'm in same boat re: macbook as workhorse for (now occasional) fiat gig as well as general toilet box
billymg: though with ancient version of os x
billymg: fiat gigs*
thimbronion: I'm definitely looking forward to getting a local gentoo box set up again. It's fucking loud though and I hace no place to put it at the moment.
billymg: asciilifeform: yeah i remembered w10 being the OS that jumped the shark with regard to phone home features but never read more into it as never had any desire to go anywhere near windows (since using it in college long ago for pc gaming)
billymg: sad that apple went the same way
billymg: though certainly not surprising
billymg: thimbronion: i solved the noise problem on my desktop by switching out all case fans for Noctua brand fans
thimbronion: billymg: I did the same. It used to be way worse.
billymg: ah
thimbronion: billymg: I have a watercooled thing that is completely silent - but it's not amd, etc.
billymg: maybe some other component fan causing the noise? CPU heatsink fan? vidcard, psu?
billymg: IMO if not overclocking then a large air cooled heatsink is sufficient, even on the 125W amd i'm using
thimbronion: billymg: I'm in kind of a small space at the moment and there's just no escape.
thimbronion: But yes I have dual cpus, both with giant noctua fans.
billymg: nice
billymg: those are really wonderful fans
thimbronion: Also installed recently a rather powerful graphics card with a pretty noisy fan - haven't been able to get the display workig since then unfortunately
billymg: ahh, yeah my vid card is very basic, not for any kind of gaming or 3D work

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