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ben_vulpes: comme ca?
ben_vulpes: davout: ^^
ben_vulpes: stylesheets welcome, btw.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: no, i'm ready to eat the whole wad.
ben_vulpes: yes well i may as well just scrape btcbase at that point asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: i *have* put some thought into this project, asciilifeform.
ben_vulpes: as i recalled.
ben_vulpes: is it not bouncer logs -> html transform?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i can scrape btcbase as well as the next feller.
ben_vulpes: was this before or after taking responsibility for critical infrastructure?
ben_vulpes: which, subject to opsec constraints, is a fine thing to do.
ben_vulpes: unless i misremember, the man is in the habit of at least mentioning prolonged absences.
ben_vulpes: or or or
ben_vulpes: phf: and on this, the third consecutive day of asking, would you kindly acknowledge receipt?
ben_vulpes: phf: may i have a copy of your log backups?
ben_vulpes: davout: there are many parts of a kalash that are not strictly ergonomic.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: no argument, but i do not see the point of moving output indexer into a separate bin given that it needs a live blockchain anyways.
ben_vulpes: davout: reference miner is still in trb bin.
ben_vulpes: 2, where one signs, perhaps.
ben_vulpes: i don't see the benefits to the increase of binary compilation targets to 3 from the one extant.
ben_vulpes: davout: what /currently/ compiles as the single binary "trb"
ben_vulpes: now /that/ i am sold on slicing from the node.
ben_vulpes: i am still not sold on moving the wallet outside of what compiles as "trb"
ben_vulpes: heh who was that?
ben_vulpes: please no backwards compatibility holy shit
ben_vulpes: davout: consider #!/bin/bash and set -e to make the thing die if any subprocesses return non-zero
ben_vulpes: davout: GNU Awk 4.1.3, API: 1.1
ben_vulpes: perhaps a low-dough point: vpatches ensure that functionality will always be available, regardless of weight of "current" version
ben_vulpes: yeah, btc sigs are silly
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: elaborate?
ben_vulpes: davout: why would you even consider releasing a patch that leaves trb unable to cook and transmit transactions? keep it on your table where it's useful to you.
ben_vulpes: davout: trb cannot exist in a state where "user must supply code for x"
ben_vulpes: galois corp doesn't have enough butts on staff to have a good chunk of anything outsourced to it
ben_vulpes: "yeah who knows he probably has a container of servers on his land somewhere, but he also keeps the entire region connected to the bitcoin net so anyone who fucks with him fucks with the whole valley"
ben_vulpes: don't bury a container of xyz much less tell anyone about it. be indispensable to the people who feed you.
ben_vulpes: so don't. fix their cars instead.
ben_vulpes: here's the spectre of atomized americans again.
ben_vulpes: long shot, sure.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: in re china embargo, that'd be a tidy provocation for cn to demonstrate how easily the us fleet is shredded.
ben_vulpes: you're conflating "things fall apart" with "texas threatens goldman sachs' control of paper gold price"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: misrepresent rural folks working in us mil?
ben_vulpes: the oathkeepers are a notorious joke, and nobody's going to stand up to a commanding officer to defend the good people of texas, no matter how little the ordered disliked texans the day before.
ben_vulpes: trinque: recall "the most important part is being wrong together" from the manning piece?
ben_vulpes: then the gamble becomes "can tejas out-shoost the feds"
ben_vulpes: trinque: that project could kick off quite the conflict if it threatens the value of paper gold significantly.
ben_vulpes: trinque: hash oil bank when
ben_vulpes: ferment your trash, fix your neighbors toilets, pray you can get through the long walk in the desert with friends.
ben_vulpes: gimme that good debt, right to this clean vein.
ben_vulpes: yeah kind of what i'm saying. the currency degradation is utterly irreversible, and that's the us' death sentence, no matter how great again the temporary may feel.
ben_vulpes: this may be so, but getting the dollar back to 1000/btc is going to be harder with every rod of rebar.
ben_vulpes: great again full employment + ubi == currency rot
ben_vulpes: comeback necessarily would have to entail sane monetary structure, which is even less likely than gutting the department of labor.
ben_vulpes: i am very short any sort of comeback.
ben_vulpes: er "why you don't like the epa gutting"
ben_vulpes: "oh i see why you don't like the epa, they fucked up the white pennsylvanian red state people you hate so much. so it's cool that penn no longer has potable water, because they're vile trumpers, right?"
ben_vulpes: trinque: yeah actually that's a good one to roast liberals with.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: anecdata.
ben_vulpes: gonna hear the same wail in re the fda as well, with the same response. "they fed us meth under doctors orders. kill them all."
ben_vulpes: stood by while the water table was ruind.
ben_vulpes: epa was doing fuck all in the first place.
ben_vulpes: put ten through get one out. almost as good for the body politic as war proper.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: there are a zillion fracking taps the saudis 'tricked us' into putting in.
ben_vulpes: yeah what fucking missing, there's shittons.
ben_vulpes: i'm not holding my breath for anyone associated with the government to fix shit.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nobody here is laboring under the illusion that any money is to be made. there are social media twits, and a small group of people trading fermented trash around.
ben_vulpes: "but teh parrrts!"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: capital wielders under inca are interesting?
ben_vulpes: dunno about 'make', but some places cast al, fe, weld racks to rigs. saw it, drank with the people involved, don't know what you want.
ben_vulpes: but yes, look to the overpaid and highly visible imperial offices and not to the sheep farmers on lopez.
ben_vulpes: oh yeah i forgot about them
ben_vulpes: from 3 chuckles in a 3-hour rotation of minorities down to barely 1 by accounts.
ben_vulpes: the performance-art-masquerading-as-commentary is growing shriller and less amusing by the day.
ben_vulpes: imperial regional offices are: intel, precision cast parts, flir and the roboflugen boeing division up the valley.
ben_vulpes: this repositing every single thing that happens as a direct result of the great inca in america is downright tiring. inca gives zero shits about this corner of its empire, leaves us to fend for ourselves.
ben_vulpes: no, casting bases for dental chairs.
ben_vulpes: where small can be anything from 20 to 500 staff.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: come off it, there are myriad small casting shops here.
ben_vulpes: it's a full-employment program, the money is definitionally wasted.
ben_vulpes: "where will the money come from?" "just borrow more, couldn't be easier."
ben_vulpes: "but why don't we spend the wall money on fixing our infrastructure?" "were you even /listening/ during the campaign? it's not an exclusive thing, he's doing both."
ben_vulpes: mmmmmhm.
ben_vulpes: blue collar whites want to set rebar and pour concrete while the minority groups they think themselves above mow their lawn.
ben_vulpes: exactly!
ben_vulpes: "do kindly look to your history books and see how the last enormous welfare program worked out for its sponsors"
ben_vulpes: "wake up babe army, the wall is not a racist thing. it's the largest works program since the new deal."
ben_vulpes: pretty much.
ben_vulpes: full employment is very cheap compared to bank bailouts though.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah does matter quite a bit how great the great again is
ben_vulpes: and i do not see this "trump vs republicans" thing. he saved the party, the old cripples are on their way out and he'll be either vice president in 8 years or speaker of the house.
ben_vulpes: what is this "nixon-shaped box"?
ben_vulpes: drugwar charges?
ben_vulpes: phf: may i have a copy of your log backups?
ben_vulpes: a+ historical document linked from 'days of rage': http://nymag.com/news/features/46170/#print
ben_vulpes: top logs today
ben_vulpes: buenos dias
ben_vulpes: in other gabriel_laddel comments that have babe army swooning: https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/
ben_vulpes: also phf may i please have the log backups?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: posix regexes work, i'll see what the performance implications are of using those instead.
ben_vulpes: granted, it serves a different problem, "searching documents" with naive user input.
ben_vulpes: postgres full text search; "some pathetic piece of shit trying to be clever"
ben_vulpes: i ain't selling "pg fts" as any sort of solution; 'tis largely an experiment in pg search and data modeling.
ben_vulpes: i hear ya
ben_vulpes: WHAT i ask you IS THE POINT of an ultra-heavy IDE that a) cannot tell me where the protocol breakage is during a refactor much less what to do about it b) has a project search SO MISERABLY BAD that a man must revert to grep in order to find ANYTHING
ben_vulpes: in which it is shown that xcode's "find occurences of string in project" ACTUALLY FUCKING DOES NOT
ben_vulpes: oh fucking lol
ben_vulpes: trinque: ty
ben_vulpes: ugh mircea_popescu how do i find the qualia thread in your blog
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ack
ben_vulpes: ask him
ben_vulpes: inb4 Framedragger builds a bitcoin kinknet
ben_vulpes: YOUR PERVERSE THOUGHTS MARK YOU FOR THE GULAG
ben_vulpes: okay so i didn't not do my homework yet.
ben_vulpes: ah there's the hanbot piece in muhfeeds.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: brain scans are phrenology, not astrology
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: also "perform backups and regularly restore from them"
ben_vulpes: ah fuq
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2009/exceptionalismul-feminin/ << translation candidate?
ben_vulpes: everything must be free except speech
ben_vulpes: http://pastebin.com/FFSQUML9 << the fiat noose tightens
ben_vulpes: davout: no accounting for taste
ben_vulpes: and with that i'm going back to the rocket stove
ben_vulpes: even has search, although a very naive postgres full-text, not the "omfg exactly like grep" asciilifeform made phf build
ben_vulpes: davout: ^^
ben_vulpes: eheh in other dependent hacks, dog wanted to destroy things the child was throwing, so i gave the child a lemon to throw around. dog will chase, but not retrieve the lemon.
ben_vulpes: dunno that he ever formally undertook it
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i'll root around for mine later today
ben_vulpes: shinohai`:
ben_vulpes: based on historical record alone it is very unlikely but i put the chances that mircea_popescu dramatically underestimates the scale and scope of insanity running amok in the states at ~5%
ben_vulpes: davout: hard to tell from over here
ben_vulpes: AaronvanW: fix your connection.
ben_vulpes: in other artificial intelligences: https://player.vimeo.com/video/192711856
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ciagov/10729577345/ << disregard the meatsack, gaze in wonder at the caddy
ben_vulpes: our options are to scratch in the dirt or pretend that a life made of plastic is worth living.
ben_vulpes: "bezzle ops for bezzle corps"
ben_vulpes: you won't even taste the poop anymore. it's really nice...
ben_vulpes: you don't want this nice abstraction layer?
ben_vulpes: and yes wtf llvm is an iridium brick of apple compiler phd time
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't really know what you're asking. his uses llvm-ir to tie into cpp, it's the ~whole point of it.
ben_vulpes: don't know?
ben_vulpes: step1: buy an apple box
ben_vulpes: strandh got his working in llvm in relatively short order
ben_vulpes: heya mod6
ben_vulpes: by my read it's a small side thing they provide to get as much ops cognition to happen through their tooling as possible
ben_vulpes: you have to give jeff bezos money?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you can point whatever record at whichever ip
ben_vulpes: you racist
ben_vulpes: phf: tpp would have saved clitorises and improved livelihoods of innumerable foreign brown people
ben_vulpes: i made people read corinthians at standup for a while
ben_vulpes: one man, one verse, one vote, one line
ben_vulpes: "this is my domain. there are many like it, but this one is mine."
ben_vulpes: aws console is very heavy on the javascript, but light on the ux
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-23#1606168 << this will be VERBOTEN HATE SPEECH but amazon's registration and dns record handling is entirely adequate
ben_vulpes: mats: ah well i can see how it'd be less than riveting then
ben_vulpes: mats: how many times have you read the old testament?
ben_vulpes: patient heh
ben_vulpes: by extension, the republic.
ben_vulpes: segwit is an assault on bitcoin, no two ways about it.
ben_vulpes: an american politician following through on campaign noises is astonishing i tell you
ben_vulpes: "trans pacific partnership"
ben_vulpes: and in other news, trumpreich out of the tpp eh?
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i'm a bit surprised a segwit stoolie ranks as positive in your book
ben_vulpes: yeah, general thesis is bankrupt the state and hedge against success with bitcoin and old servers
ben_vulpes: "make ben great again"?
ben_vulpes: psh i'm not saying it's a winning strategy for maga
ben_vulpes: reduce taxes, increase the debt ceiling, pay for everyone to have everything fuckit #yolo
ben_vulpes: "not my problem, i just want free shit."
ben_vulpes: "i want a boat, are boats free?" "sure, baby! free boats!" "but what about the people who make the boats, shouldn't they get compensated for their labor?" "you mean their COERCED LABOR? in world of free, nobody works who doesn't want to work, and we all work for the joy of it!" "wait but then how do boats get made"
ben_vulpes: it can be a humorous bridge into the property rights thread
ben_vulpes: sex should be free is lulzy but you quickly veer into the "wait but most men aren't worth the lubrication"
ben_vulpes: "water should be free!" "yes!" "education should be free!" "yes!" "food should be free!" "yesss" "wine should be free!" "hang on a sec"
ben_vulpes: makes them very uncomfortable and they don't quite understand why.
ben_vulpes: also, nobody wanted to be seen near a sign saying "everything should be free"
ben_vulpes: mmm, priorities.
ben_vulpes: but then a light bulb went out in a piece of hardware
ben_vulpes: i was considering going
ben_vulpes: anways i broke some links, but not many. i'll come back around later this weekend and drop references for phf's cross-referencer to pick up.
ben_vulpes: me too! my wardrobe is all black and my g2's all pink.
ben_vulpes: that photo
ben_vulpes: more vaseline on the lens, and focal point closer to the lens at the very least. ideally some vignetting and maybe a bottle of hairspray in the background?
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, i'm watching these two crows hassling a raptor out over the river
ben_vulpes: 449086
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-19#1605355 << mine's a zillion blocks behind
ben_vulpes: pw:rn?
ben_vulpes: "bike" is useful, "beach" is responsible for some amount of CLIM...
ben_vulpes: occasionally i ask a question and someone answers
ben_vulpes: ah yes, 'twas adlai who brought do
ben_vulpes: i was certain that we'd done the 'omg cmucl compilation' lolz thread before; is this a time loop? where are picard and riker
ben_vulpes: dog if that's a jet fighter i'm the ceo of apple
ben_vulpes: FAP FAP FAP
ben_vulpes: for pete_dushenski on the topic of studded bike tires https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q5IYSrLFUY
ben_vulpes: cool, mod6
ben_vulpes: that feel when your html renders just fine in lynx but chrome makes an unspeakable nightmare of it
ben_vulpes: wasn't the swordfish hacker played up down and sideways?
ben_vulpes: gotta wail together or it doesn't work i guess
ben_vulpes: trinque: fwiw, if a girl doesn't at least allow for other women to engage in sex work she can't be called a feminist
ben_vulpes: salted roads another subtler check
ben_vulpes: dependence on the state is cancer of the soul.
ben_vulpes: moreover i live in clackamas county, where civilized men load the children and whiskey into the trucks and go plow each others streets for fun.
ben_vulpes: dunno how you got to "portland does nothing" from "no salt or sand". there are plows, they were out.
ben_vulpes: well yes ofc, but the point is that there's no hard coupling between revenues and expenses when the government can simply borrow more.
ben_vulpes: what tax, pdx issues bonds and goes into debt just like the big boys
ben_vulpes: most people get around in covered wagons anyways, so it's not that big of a deal.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: on the chains thread, perhaps worth pointing out that this area doesn't salt the roads.
ben_vulpes: ("i know what this entirely figured-out industrial process needs -- more steps and parts!")
ben_vulpes: fatties aren't adequate?
ben_vulpes: seems unnecessary
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: studded bike tires?
ben_vulpes: such a simple machine, detonator and compressive charge, how could anyone ever fuck that up.
ben_vulpes: very convinced.
ben_vulpes: i'm sure the nukes are in fine condition.
ben_vulpes: Ingolfr_Arnarson: you writing a novel?
ben_vulpes: like i did two months before
ben_vulpes: nono i understand how it works now
ben_vulpes: trinque: i see
ben_vulpes: appears to be, yes.
ben_vulpes: Ingolfr_Arnarson: you'll hafta pm deedbot if you haven't figured that out yet
ben_vulpes: !!down Ingolfr_Arnarson
ben_vulpes: Ingolfr_Arnarson: indulge me for a second, i'm going to down you and then would you up yourself?
ben_vulpes: trinque: ^^ "for 30 minutes"?
ben_vulpes: well that's an interesting result
ben_vulpes: Ingolfr_Arnarson: try again
ben_vulpes: !!v 61A580475F8BE8AEDD7DE7295076F5BCF077307B8CEBD36432DF8B34F48A7AD7
ben_vulpes: !!rate Ingolfr_Arnarson 1 new blood
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ^^
ben_vulpes: oh oh
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: pardon?
ben_vulpes is rewriting logger, would do it otherwise.
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