mircea_popescu: so, to get on the same page here, the general strategy is, 1. construct undisruptable comms ; 2. disrupt usg&friends comms ; 3. disrupt usg&friends physical presence.
l0de: and was somewhat put off to find he didn't have any actionable plans other than BTC inevitably collapsing the government
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 16:48 mircea_popescu: well, reading through what ? #trilema is the forum of the most serene republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the dissolution of all fiat sovereigns and the permanent barring of such nonsense in the future.
mircea_popescu: well, how familiar are you with the republic &c ?
l0de: there are a few people there really into web transmission of stuff too, who know all about nginx etc
l0de: If you want to talk radio shit, #LRH on efnet, sloth and nance are the big gearheads
mircea_popescu: i've no doubt they will be, dood just needs to wake up.
l0de: most of the people who retransmit are already quite wealthy
l0de: sure, if the previous promised funds are remitted
mircea_popescu: l0de the technical elements of it are specifically what interests me, actually.
l0de: people are just grabbing the stream and rebroadcasting it on local transmitters
l0de: I generally don't handle the technical elements of it
l0de: the transmitters available to us cycle out a lot
mircea_popescu: possibly xmas party with the nude truebelievers.
l0de: DPB pledged $800 to support the radio arts
mircea_popescu: oh right, right, the sw radio guy.
mircea_popescu: they're in the biofilm as their own oh-so-precious choice, specifically so as not to be distinguishable, wut can we do.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758419 << when phf said so. how much attention should be paid to supposed differences among the biofilm ?
mircea_popescu: you KNOW they'll have heartbleed and orc glyphs and so on and so forth, even as the "security tokens" never expire and the gameplay just isn't there.
mircea_popescu: they may omit to implement any meaningful utility or security ; what they will NEVER omit is a fully implementation of the ideology.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 21:34 ben_vulpes: https://medium.com/bread-and-circuses/how-i-got-paid-0-from-the-uber-security-bug-bounty-aa9646aa103f and in responsible disclosurabilia
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 17:49 asciilifeform: or disgorge, via any means short of full bore crack, anything previously written therein , as a file
mircea_popescu: there's more to it than just http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757591 by the way ; consider the example in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758218 : dude keeps talking of "endpoints" which are in point of fact URLs. much like crapples files very secretly used under the hood but denied to the luser.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess the buttcoiner pedo pantsuitism readily answers the economic question. dood trashed early bitcoin business BECAUSE that's why he had it in the first place. wasn't looking to do something useful, was looking to establish cred to try and fuck up the useful.
mircea_popescu: giving a bad name to both respectability and dissolution at the same time!
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 12:41 mircea_popescu: phf who the fuck is some tool named david know or have to say about "ruble" anyway
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 11:43 phf: https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2017/10/16/the-russian-cryptoruble-story-whats-actually-happening-here/ Russian crypto currency with Russian cryptography
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 15:14 phf: and for those who'd like an even deeper david rabbit hole, https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Gerard and https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Arkady, i am otherwise tapping out. first article of the day, and i've already had enough
ben_vulpes: geeeeeet in there!
ben_vulpes: all worlds outside #trilema are the alt-world
ben_vulpes: and in other cribbings from trilema: "there's no price signal omgwtfbbq!" https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2017/12/17/why-you-cant-cash-out-pt-1-why-bitcoins-price-is-largely-fictional/
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform mod6 phf mircea_popescu trinque and phriendz: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000283.html
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 22:54 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000282.html
ben_vulpes: in other random lols: 2017-12-25_02:27:44.00324 version message: version 70013, blocks=0
BigTexasBingo: Could be the most practical trilema piece of the year that one. Utilized in meatspace so soon after publication.
mircea_popescu: solid and patient improvements towards the right thing ; but preferably after db fix & client split as discussed.
ben_vulpes: anyways, my node is now either fourteen or fifteen minutes behind bc.i depending on how their javascript feels, so perhaps there's nothing to this aggression after all, sorry to disappoint BigTexasBingo
ben_vulpes: i imagine there's some "isomorphic backend rendering" node black magic horseshit going on behind the scenes
ben_vulpes: yeah, and this is true of all their listed blocks
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: first the page renders with 500918: 12, then five seconds later 500918 now apparently has an age of 13 minutes
ben_vulpes: the magic of javascript! you can decide what world you live in!
ben_vulpes: wowee, when i reload blockchain.info first it shows one number for how long a block's been advertised and then shortly thereafter, another number indicating they've known about it for longer than they said at first!
mircea_popescu: then the "10" can be configurable ; or else it can be calculated by the node, (such as "117% of average time it took me to check the past 144 blocks" for instance)
mircea_popescu: how about "pushgetblock to ONE peer randomly selected from the list of peers advertising higher block tip than you have upon every block verification (whether successful or not) and every 10 minutes henceforth"
mircea_popescu: "every 10 minutes pushgetblocks to all peers that advertise higher height than yours" is still wasteful, you will ask 114 people for the same item with your new cuts.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: howabout a timeout knob? every <configurable> minutes after the last block, pushgetblocks to all peers?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: that could in theory be once and never after for long-running and stable connections
shinohai: Dunno what others think, but I would prefer this as a knob to turn on/off
mircea_popescu: every time you connect seems the logical place.
ben_vulpes: is there an argument to be made against asking peers for new blocks every time TRB loops through the peerlist? too resource-intensive?
trinque: anyhow, whichever one cracks the wine bottles in your house, enjoy it.
trinque wonders when the republic shall revive saturnalia
shinohai: I have no idea, these things are located all over the building. I like the place though, beats the shit out of LaQuinta Inn or whatever.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758257 << seems to demand the sasl nonsense , for new nicks
ben_vulpes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2tKj7/?raw=true current vpatch for the curious, will post to ml after letting it run for a while
ben_vulpes: pflol well after excising max_outbound_connections and the one-connection-per-block connection count now at 114 and node very quickly got back up to date
mircea_popescu: it's in the channel as an ad-hoc thing, "this person is voiced atm, if that's worth anything to you". not intended to prove anything to archeologists.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron yeah, not too crazy about that behaviour either.
ben_vulpes: let's try again: i misnamed the seal for the truncation patch, must have "ben_vulpes" in the last period-delimited field of the seal name instead of "ben_vules"
mircea_popescu: name them properly!
ben_vulpes: otherwise v.pl won't recognize it as a seal.
mircea_popescu: nobody will note nor should they. why does it need renaming ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 22:54 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000282.html
ben_vulpes: while i wait for the mailing list to process my latest note, please note that the sig attached in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758230 needs renaming to `ben_vulpes_excise_hash_truncation.vpatch.ben_vulpes.sig'
ben_vulpes: also it is *snowing* on *christmas eve* in the northern suburbs of the socialist paradise
mircea_popescu: idiot didn't even truncate to the same length.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 22:54 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000282.html
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758226 << because he just wants to. just like all the other zektards.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758221 << word. i think there's a half dozen websites dissected on trilema displaying the exact behaviour.
ben_vulpes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JWdTT/?raw=true for the curious, dear gregory pery do call in, our listeners are dying to meet you
mircea_popescu: fuck 'em, the salvation of the drowning is work for the hands of the self-same drowning. god may mercifully send you a sign, but that's already asking for too much.
ben_vulpes: but judging from how the biofilm uses symbols instead of thinking i rather expect that the protonmail address is read
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 19:23 mircea_popescu: in other absolutely-not-news, I suppose the isomorphism http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1753616 <<-=->> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757015 is evident to everyone except the "self-determined" freewilled parties in question.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you (or anybody) has a contact for this gregory pery tard (i dun imagine totallynotrobots@protonmail.com actually works ?), maybe point out to him that http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758148 and it's really ridoinculous to be wasting his weeks to freely support the usg pile of evil ?
mircea_popescu: "Whats weird though is that the OAuth2 token doesnt ever change, and I cant find anything in the Uber developer documentation that deals with token expiration;" << word.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 21:34 ben_vulpes: https://medium.com/bread-and-circuses/how-i-got-paid-0-from-the-uber-security-bug-bounty-aa9646aa103f and in responsible disclosurabilia
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758218 << lollfull. also because medium finally switched the bait, now it's full page "pardon the interruption" interstitials.
mircea_popescu: that's just because you're lazy. real men always work with tools designed to work counterproductivelty and maim them in the process.
mircea_popescu: it'll be cool when they "upgrade" it to ipv6 and the 000ffff mask will have to be updated to correctly handle unicode.
ben_vulpes: does it? does it really? what the fuck does work even mean here.
ben_vulpes: that bitmashing against the ip makes my head hurt.
mircea_popescu: ~more of the same.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to have it in the press, esp considering the history of how that came about. but as obvious knob as it gets.
ben_vulpes: well the question rattling around me braincase is ~"does this help or hinder weaponized TRB?"
mircea_popescu: myeah. anyway, stopgap of the "if i make it what i think it should be -- it crashes" line.
mircea_popescu: recall we had a discussion re star breaking nat crapolade. but you need the stars and a system specifically designed to use them, as there contemplate
mircea_popescu: this is the problem here : you get a bunch of "nodes" which only connect out, and a few nodes who get hammered. and since no serious thought was given to
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes a node behind a NAT is not capable of being addressed. so it receives no inbound, merely connects out. so it does not participate in lessening the load.
ben_vulpes: why do the NAT node connections threaten to take down realnodes?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 20:45 ben_vulpes: traveling through the suburban wastelands yesterday, i tried a 'starbucks' croissant for lols, thinking to myself, 'imagine if they can screw up the croissant'. and lo, it was terrible. no flake, all soft spongiform inside.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758198 << croissant is THE most difficult item of boulangerie. that's why it's even famous.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 20:40 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758167 << ro was like this. to the point that even nao neither asciilifeform nor his pet can bring themselves to eat at american 'coffee' shops any moar. at all.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758196 << but aren't their skills and oppinions important to you ?!
mircea_popescu: if that limit is not there, you can readily encounter a situation where one of the 10 is taken down every other hour by 90 inbound connections. or at least -- more readily.
mircea_popescu: with the limit of 8, you have the 10 receiving no more than 720 connections, ie 7.2 on average, with a linear distrib max of 15 ? so you can live a standard of "and can handle 16 conns" for a "proper" box
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah i pulled the trigger on that excision along with the hash truncation, see the ml
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 20:35 ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/db.cpp#0837 << any reason for this to not come out with the truncation patch?
ben_vulpes: i don't quite see the connection between NATed nodes and this max outbound connections constraint, could you elaborate?
mircea_popescu: when you worship your betters you ensure your place in the world, ~such as it is~. when you worship clitler you get nice words and utter doom.
mircea_popescu: 2020 "young writer for the ny times" ain't gonna be 1950s ginsburg, as it ain't gonna be 1970s mia farrow. it's gonna be fungusbrain bigmomma.
mircea_popescu: but the same drive to ever cheapen the soviet's offerings to the zek ("only political training contributes to forwarding teh revolution!! everything else contributes to costs!!!" said teh world famous elena ceausescu-zigglar) will cheapen the very rug from under your feet also.
mircea_popescu: and mind all ye of the "aspirational" demographic, all ye dumb pantsuited hussies : the sword keeps right on cutting after it cut the slice you wanted.
mircea_popescu: aand in other "my skills and oppinions not needed", here's rhonda young : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuUkvE0H1Ig
ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000282.html
asciilifeform: if yer a nobody, and you were to show up with a ~serious~ 0day : you have 1000x chance of getting 'weev'-ed, rather than paid .
asciilifeform: the 3 or 4 people on the planet who can actually SELL 0days , knowing they'll be paid 1) know who they are 2) wouldn't even cough and spit for a mere 500 , esp if paid in taxolade 3) don't deal with 'uber' et al, or any 'responsible-disclosure'-pushing usg.tentacle , not for promises of three kingdoms and five princesses
ben_vulpes running truncation patch, will get back in the saddle after misc duties of parenting while impoverished
asciilifeform: 'If you invest any time and effort into HackerOne Bug Bounties, HackerOne does not honor their minimum bug bounty guarantee, and will not go to bat for you if you have a dispute with one of their well-placed vendors such as Uber.' << noshit.jpg
asciilifeform: s the same token I keep getting, no matter how many times I log in and out of my account using the Surface app' << lel
asciilifeform: 'I put together a Python-based client that can talk to Uber’s backends, to start harvesting OAuth2 tokens for entropy analysis and to see if there are any issues with their PRNG. What’s weird though is that the OAuth2 token doesn’t ever change, and I can’t find anything in the Uber developer documentation that deals with token expiration; literally the same token I was issued when I first created my Uber account for testing i
ben_vulpes: https://medium.com/bread-and-circuses/how-i-got-paid-0-from-the-uber-security-bug-bounty-aa9646aa103f and in responsible disclosurabilia
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 17:59 mircea_popescu: NOW, the first, and naive, thought, would be "o noes, all those poor but intelligent engineer minds who will lose their freenode ; we should try to help them"
asciilifeform: part of the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756115 process is that they're phasing in 'force people to run heartb^H^H^H^H^H^sasl to merely connect' item.
asciilifeform: which presently leaves asciilifeform with no place to put the bot ( i won't keep it on zoolag, uncloaked irc-to-fleanode results in massive shitfloods routinely )
asciilifeform: maybe also from zimbabwe , who the fuck knows
asciilifeform: nao how would i know if ~only~ from there
asciilifeform: and it happens regardless of which *.fleanode box the lottotron gives you
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform discovered that it is impossible to use trinque's bot on fleanode if connecting from a shitazon session:
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: some of the bread eaten in blockade-era leningrad , was, i suspect, a serious step ahead of 'starbucks'.
ben_vulpes: traveling through the suburban wastelands yesterday, i tried a 'starbucks' croissant for lols, thinking to myself, 'imagine if they can screw up the croissant'. and lo, it was terrible. no flake, all soft spongiform inside.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758167 << ro was like this. to the point that even nao neither asciilifeform nor his pet can bring themselves to eat at american 'coffee' shops any moar. at all.
ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/db.cpp#0837 << any reason for this to not come out with the truncation patch?
ben_vulpes: and no, opinions don't exist here if they don't come from *a person*, which is predicated on an identity.
ben_vulpes: Hssgh5337k: you could at least mention these skills; otherwise it reeks of "i'm a magical pony and YOU DON'T UNDERSTAAAAND"
ben_vulpes: and to quote BigTexasBingo, the time for showing up and derping around without saying "i am so and so, and should be considered for inclusion in the forum for reasons of x y and z" was in 2013, not the tail end of 2017.
BigTexasBingo: For serious though, how lucky am I that no other lord in the big prison has made their escape here yet
BigTexasBingo: Perhaps the foundation could use some prb/trb bridges on boxen running both after the acceleration experiments bring more fruit.
BigTexasBingo: The holiday
ben_vulpes: no party in the streets?
BigTexasBingo: Also, congratulations on the acceleration progress
mircea_popescu: (for bonus lulz, 12795/30/24 = 17.770833333 or roughly speaking 10 to the bitcent.)
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 17:46 ben_vulpes: dude this is epic, girl would rather talk about calendar offsets than earn a bitcent an hour reading the log
mircea_popescu: in other absolutely-not-news, I suppose the isomorphism http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1753616 <<-=->> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757015 is evident to everyone except the "self-determined" freewilled parties in question.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ( if i know of a nextblock, and i'm peering with mircea_popescu , and he doesn't, or vice-versa -- the boxes oughta share )
asciilifeform: it ought not to be possible under the game rules
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, the absolute all-time champ at never-lagging in asciilifeform's house of horrors is... an ancient (circa 2013..?) prb !! e.g. currently at 500849
asciilifeform: 'os' without redirectable output , belongs in the oven.
asciilifeform: the 'find and open debug.log somewhere' is a winblowzism.
asciilifeform: i can't speak for others, but asciilifeform often ( almost always, in fact ) runs trb during tests, in pure userland, making use of 0 systemwide loggings )
trinque: I dunno a linux on earth that can't log the direct output of a service
asciilifeform: that already printed ( the latter , in classical trb, mutilated )
asciilifeform: ( also in the log )
asciilifeform: right up there with 'from-where-i-got-ACCEPTED-block'
ben_vulpes: i have another kiestered that i may as well unload at the same time, hash untrunculation
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the same thought occurred to me
trinque: a complicating factor of me testing the version string is that while ahead, I may be feeding other TRBs, while not, not.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: one thing i do with logbot is to use postgres as a queue so that a background worker can do all of the thinking and crashing without thrashing the irc connection
asciilifeform: it isn't even impossible that there's only been 1 block in past 2hrs, say
ben_vulpes: anyways i must have an extra-thick layer of prb, as my node has found precisely one block in the past three hours
ben_vulpes: sorry, asciilifeform. i was focused on the logbot part, forgot about the ircbot and to update documentation.
asciilifeform: anyway , worx, now all i need is to think of how to properly cut the output so as not to straddle message breaks...
asciilifeform: only then, had to unsheath eyes.
asciilifeform: you changed 'channel' slot in ircbot class to 'channels', but never bothered to change the corresponding line in make-ircbot !! ben_vulpes )
asciilifeform: ( how the fuck did it ever work , ben_vulpes ?? )
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell trinque http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/nxnWA/?raw=true << or for that matter anybody else using trinque-bot -- any idea what gives ? i followed the example in the readme...
a111: Logged on 2017-03-02 16:31 asciilifeform: it is worth recalling the gedankenexperiment where it turns out that all you'd need to build 'martian bank' on earth, is if martians merely supplied an infallible 'martian clock', a service whereby they take a string S , at regular, say, daily, interval, and return its hash H
asciilifeform: there is not, nor could there be, a fixed-star for existence proofs. even classical blockchain has the obvious limitations ( discussed numerously, see l0gz )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's that prove tho ? winklevoss tards periodically go into their basement/den where they "have" "their own" copy of fb.
mircea_popescu: an evident issue would be of course that if ownership is implemented as-to-specified-coin as seen in bitcoin, then E has a ready avenue -- "all txn including spends from my own addresses are mine". this is a somewhat weakening of the premise, but perhaps sufficient.
mircea_popescu: but in point of fact the hook to hang by is there : at the present time how would someone who is hostile (ie, does not trust what we say) discern who originated mpi ?
asciilifeform: nah, there's a time parameter
mircea_popescu: that they approve.
asciilifeform: dun tell me we gotta have the ring signatures thread again
mircea_popescu: ie, it's leveraged to fuck over the miner collusion properties of current pow.
mircea_popescu: this is a sort of gossipd-meets-the original "can't have signature repudiation" problem you encountered in comments there, but REVERSED.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu has thought of a meaning for it that doesn't 'a participating entity can recognize work done by itself as opposed to work done by others' -- i'm all ears
mircea_popescu: nobody can know WHO truly authored a patch. just what set of the signatories signed it that they're willing to share with him
mircea_popescu: consider the fundamental value of regrinding!
mircea_popescu: (in fact it is perhaps obvious that was designed with a view to THIS, rather than "extant battlefield")
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 16:22 mircea_popescu: anwyay, revisiting an ancient conversation re http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mining+is+a+bug : i have to thoroughly concede this point to asciilifeform . the model is as follows : if a) a PoW system exists in which b) a participating entity can recognize work done by itself as opposed to work done by others then it NECESSARILY follow that entity can, and therefore it ALSO follows that it eventually will c) impose further con
mircea_popescu: scheme as described ftr works eminently well with http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/ in that "proof of knowing the txset" becomes meaningful past what's going on now
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform's answer is 'first you pillage , ~then~ you burn, fughetabout it for the time being, have an algo for the basic mechanics that makes sense, first ! )
mircea_popescu: anyway, evidently the first [...] stands for what's currently termed "mining" while the second for actual spending.
asciilifeform: ( for some reason everybody always asks 'how'll you pass out the coins', but this is orthogonal problem! )
asciilifeform: this is exactly the picture asciilifeform drew last yr, aha.
mircea_popescu: the whole field array-addresable, "coin #58045 is at... offset... 58045. duh."
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, the replacement-pistols will simply be a patch set.
asciilifeform: it ain't a substitute for the cut-up, no.
mircea_popescu: yes yes. but on the proper basis
asciilifeform: because there's a possibility of speeding sync 100-200x... ( the obvious way. if block sha512's, or keccak's, etc. to a checksum-cum-heighposition that is signed by node owner's l1 -- then ACCEPT )
mircea_popescu: but honestly i'd prioritize db-fix-and-trb-split discussed over these rather cosmetic by comparison improvements.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-16 11:07 mircea_popescu: which, ungenerously enough, seems just a step away from the breakdown specific to shitholes like argentina, where people altogether don't even comprehend words are in any sense meaningful, above and beyond the chirping captive populations of chickens do to reassure each other.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 04:03 trinque: same idiots that all type "h" to each other, line noise for brain.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-07 23:12 asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu at the time said that the thing really oughta eat a programmable set of checkpoint
asciilifeform: ( i recommend bolting the width in place to 256 , to keep lines short )
asciilifeform: and i'll add that if somebody other than asciilifeform feels like doing this operation, i will take off my hat
mircea_popescu: what's wrong with the bot he published
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ... it is equally conceivable that the thing is a pure win, and dun need to become a knob. we'll see.
asciilifeform: it is possible that it will improve block reception at the expense of outgoing tx propagation.
asciilifeform: well right nao it's pulling blox from other trb's, at ~100% efficiency
mircea_popescu: i don't see any change in behaviour. the prb node will produce ~same % of blocks with or without.
asciilifeform: ... as mircea_popescu prolly intuited , it remains possible that 'aggression' takes the trb<->prb link breakage from , say, the 80% of before, to 100% , and i would not learn about it until reaching tip.
mircea_popescu: problem is the tip
asciilifeform: ( unrelatedly, but before i fughet, observation : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755826 i.e. bastardry handler, is unproductive because it asks 'fill in what we're missing', but 99 out of 100 shots, that's ~another~ bastard. really instead it ought to either 1) send a normal pushgetblocks() to the bastard-emitter , asking him for the ~one and only block we won't reject~, it being the immediately-next-one-after-our-topheight , or
mircea_popescu: the part where "africa had no men BECAUSE IT FUCKING SUCKED" somehow escaped notice. fancy that wonder, http://trilema.com/2015/in-which-orwell-avoids-what-he-does-not-wish-to-see/
mircea_popescu: in the end it might turn out that vhs-america aborted itself because it listened to a bunch of mediocre women that just wanted an easy time teaching highschool ; but couldn't come out with it because puritan perversion.
mircea_popescu: 100% africanism, and it's what the "peace corps" was for
mircea_popescu: "higgs boson will end the world!!!"
mircea_popescu: heck, they were even bitching about how euro cyclotron MIGHT ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING, recall ?
mircea_popescu: matches observed experience perfectly -- suddenly ghetto empty of males. then... "manspreading".
mircea_popescu: (because who are the writer-in-ny fantasies foolong, 100% of pantsuit were going into teaching)
mircea_popescu: factually, however, ustardian pantsuit visited africa [the nation of~] where they discovered that all-girl classes are a lot easier for the local subtards to handle than mixed classes they had at home
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 17:05 asciilifeform: they have a phrase they use amongst themselves, 'societal security'.
mircea_popescu: all-girl school best. like they saw in africa.
mircea_popescu: this is the "day at nuke power station". and "boys will be boys" ie someone ACTUALLY DOING something is exactly the worst fucking nightmare.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 19:27 mircea_popescu: that is after all the point, neh, to somehow get as large a headcount as possible through the various gates (born, college, credit cards, mortgage, retirement hgome etc) WITHOUT "harming the environment" which in any practical sesne means... without changing anything.
mircea_popescu: yes, but this isn't it ; i'd have thought it'd have ecology in it because i recall the link being made, but also no dice.
mircea_popescu: i've engineered hell for myself here, "it's either in the log or on the blog" yes tyvm
mircea_popescu: there's some log discussion of why nothing must ever happen.
mircea_popescu: it is an outgrowth of socialist fantasy, specifically constructed to deliver on the constructed impotence of socialism.
mircea_popescu: no, committee is very strictly dedicated to failing on the h bomb or anything else.
mircea_popescu: smart man. do you see however how this is STRICTLY equivalent to slavegirl going "master, this spot, this spot doesn't hurt like the others, hit it harder."
asciilifeform: kurchatov, supposedly, sat and thought, and few minutes later answered, 'perhaps from philosophical pov this'd be consistent. but then we will have to forget about obtaining the bomb.'
asciilifeform: stalin summoned kurchatov to the throne room, and described to him 'we're gonna have a cleanup, in physics, like in genetics, what do you think'
asciilifeform: there was a specific conversation, legendarily:
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is that ; but not reliably, hence soviet alt-genetics.
mircea_popescu: which isn't nearly as fortunate a happy occurence as the fantasy-mind imagines from within ; but anyway
asciilifeform: kurchatov was able to work in conceptual sphere, and not only without interference but with offer of 'tell us who is getting in the way, he'll be gone next morning'
mircea_popescu: this follows from the definition of terms, if you manage to find a domain outside of the view of the whip therefore you escaped.
mircea_popescu: there is no under that's not an extension of by.
mircea_popescu: because there's not so much conceptual within peasant ancestral experience.
mircea_popescu: i'm not entirely sure stalin was capable. you see, the buffett mind, "i'm a smart conservative peasant", which seems to my eyes to be what stalin (or for that matter ro hatman) was struggling towards dun work for conceptual worlds.