mircea_popescu: and in case it's not obvious: there's a MAJOR opportunity here for someone wanting to deliver a service for pay. why is nobody advertising "i will produce boxes and ship them to bb" ? have "the boundless blablas" buffett assigned to america died QUITE that dead ?
BingoBoingo: I haven't recieved it. I'm going to poke them again now.
mircea_popescu: that's the top priority, else we'll be paying for an empty rack while the endless doodling goes about with getting servers delivered.
mircea_popescu: you never published the server order list.
BingoBoingo: Anyways musl servering is going well, building a trb on the box because gotta test for republican standards compliance.
BingoBoingo: Nah I mean with the butterflies there I refrained from gassing the stinkbugs. They crawled from the milkweed to the tomato cages to transform.
BingoBoingo: All I know is they like to park their asses on bare galvanized with for their personal transformations. For two weeks the tomatoes suffered mucho de stinkbugs.
mircea_popescu: it was quite visible inside towards the end
asciilifeform: iirc they dun reliably sync, however, >day of variance b/w various pupils' hatchings
asciilifeform: i recall the wing-drying specifically.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is suggesting new peaks of luxury. they spend ~half hour waiting for their wings to dry / batting them slowly. if you get a few dozen coordinated chrysalises you could have quite the grandiose dinner table.
mircea_popescu: i still have nfi how they do those. is it what, copper ?
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is slightyl different, iirc northerner monarch chrisalis looks more like a turd
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually had 1 of these as homework in american school, 3rdgrade << yah, same.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This summer there were a few in my garden
asciilifeform: they used to migrate as far north as here. ( perhaps still do ? somewhere )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually had 1 of these as homework in american school, 3rdgrade
mod6: ok DC said they'll throw in an SSD for me. so that's awesome. hopefully that'll get my node caught up and stay caught up.
emmylark: May I please have some more numbers? Like the ones for my tits?
emmylark: So those numbers, for my tits? May I have some more of them? One from anyone willing to entertain me?
trinque caught the rick and morty reference
emmylark: Hello everyone. There was no offense taken.
mod6: the adventure is worth it though.
mod6: it's a bit deep to walk in alf's big footprints through the adventure.
mircea_popescu: trb is whatever the foundation releases.
mircea_popescu: ie, a toy item rather than production ready.
asciilifeform: the latter lives in ram
asciilifeform: ( the one with the O(1) indexer and the 'nursery' last-few-hundred-blox holder , as discussed last yr )
mod6: keep up the good work asciilifeform
a111: Logged on 2018-01-27 22:16 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-27#1777381 << i was thinking, the '% of wallclock time spent waiting for blockverifier' , '% of wallclock time spent waiting for newblock' stats really oughta be part of standard 'getinfo' output
mod6: I gotta get this mission critical stuff with vtron out of the way. Then should be undertaking myself.
mod6: lol, i've not "formally" started it. I have however, looked through most of 1, 2, 3, and 4. Did the homework for ffa_calc. But again, not enough to say "I've done it. Lemme sign."
mod6: The formal release version is planned of course. Thanks for paitence, and help to get this vtron in proper working order.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 14:55 asciilifeform: the only actual standard in whole fucking machine is the mains cord.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, I present to you a pre-patched *EXPERIMENTAL* version of my vtron (99993), along with a patch to show changes from V (99994): http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-January/000287.html
asciilifeform polishing off ch9. which will contain, among other things, The Seekrit Of all-iron guaranteed-constanttime mul , with only ~8% penalty over iron mul.
asciilifeform: ( in 'striping' , the platters turn deliberately out of phase )
asciilifeform: ( exercise for the reader, to see why )
phf: err, actually scratch the whole thing
ben_vulpes: obviously is going to be slow, but mimi has zero trouble keeping up with the tip-o-the-chain since applying your patch
asciilifeform: i had the above stats patch on the conveyor, but abandoned when saw that there is no mystery anymoar for it to resolve..
asciilifeform: though i will point out, for completeness, that i saw NO substantial 'behinditude' on zoolag since feeding it the pill against shitoshi's sync retardation.
asciilifeform: it will readily reveal the cause of a 'behind' node
a111: Logged on 2018-01-27 20:02 diana_coman: re nodes: mine is still there but still not at the top; I even pressed and ran asciilifeform's patch but it's unclear to me if it helped tbh; I admit I did not have much time to really dig deeper there exactly
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-27#1777381 << i was thinking, the '% of wallclock time spent waiting for blockverifier' , '% of wallclock time spent waiting for newblock' stats really oughta be part of standard 'getinfo' output
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 19:29 asciilifeform: btw i'll mention again a simple method to speed up sync (to a point) 1,000x or moar -- signed hashes ( a la the programmable checkpoint thread from 2yrs ago )
asciilifeform: potentially they could work at something like normal speed, with something like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776380 . but that's not a Troo Adult Noad
a111: Logged on 2018-01-27 20:10 diana_coman: ah, that must be it then; no ssd :(
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-27#1777388 << at the risk of repeating -- mechanical hdd is ~useless for trb work
diana_coman: spyked, thanks; looks familiar even so one of these days I'll have to get around to look at it and shoot it in the head
spyked: (and it's not obvious from the error message either; but it's possible that there's a bit more info in the server logs)
spyked: diana_coman: here's the output: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Nlokl/?raw=true and the script I used http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/z0nep/?raw=true it would seem ngnix expects user agents to meet a particular spec (that I haven't figured out exactly) before delivering pages
diana_coman: hm, what was the error you got on that one that didn't work?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 18:34 mircea_popescu: !~later tell spyked hey, does your tarpit not send pingbacks or is there some error ? what's the response if you say curl -v -A "Mozilla/5.0" -r 0-4096 --connect-timeout 30 --max-time 10 "http://www.dianacoman.com/xmlrpc.php" --header "Content-Type: text/xml" --data "<?xmlversion="1.0"?><methodCall><methodName>pingback.ping</methodName><params><param><value><string>http://trilema.com/2017/re-reading-is-the-most-powerful-tool/
spyked: diana_coman, yeah, but your webserver is ultra-conservative on user agents. :) the one from http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773164 didn't work, so I faked one from an existing browser, which eventually did the trick. (nb for whoever wants to craft xml-rpc requests manually)
diana_coman: ah, that must be it then; no ssd :(
mod6: (and fwiw, im running the aggressive push blocks too, which should help. but too IO bound to matter with slow disk)
mod6: heh, that moment where 'mimisbrunnr' is a block ahead of other blockchain sites...
mod6: does your node use an SSD? mine doesn't and is @ 506042, and the net is @ 506402
diana_coman: re nodes: mine is still there but still not at the top; I even pressed and ran asciilifeform's patch but it's unclear to me if it helped tbh; I admit I did not have much time to really dig deeper there exactly
mod6: how's eulora stuff these days?
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic: Please let me know if you have any updates for your Advertised Republican Nodes to conclude the month of January.
jhvh1: spyked: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/blockchain-company-buys-67000-acres-at-northern-nevada-industrial-park <<< New flaming-tire-in-shitpit factory?
phf: "How Two, Bored, 1970's Housewives Helped Create the PC Industry www.fastcompany.com"
BingoBoingo: Wire is expected to hit the datacenter account Monday. This weekend configuring and double checking the configuring of the switch and the musl Qntra
mircea_popescu: there was a bar in new york where ~100 people died /year because people got drunk and starting shooting pistols at each other.
mircea_popescu: !#s "the morgue"
mircea_popescu: i was talking re "contempo" period, post ww2 not of the fucking know-nothing movement.
mircea_popescu: the battle has evidently been lost.
asciilifeform: ( iirc in all 50 states at this point, if even local cop runs somebody over on his way to arresting a pickpocket, corpse 'hangs' on the pickpocket )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the more interesting point is that purely latino style "kidnappings" are moving into the us in complete defiance of "law enforcement".
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 23:09 shinohai: In other competence of the feebs news: http://archive.is/Un7mm
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1777321 << observe that in all such cases under modern usg, the corpse 'hangs' on the designated gallows bird; and never on the gestapo ( who can machine-gun or even demolish, as in florida 2y ago, entire houses , with clear conscience )
shinohai: There's actually a market for shaved pubic hair! lol
mircea_popescu: i have about $1 trillion in trimmed pubic hairs. they, unlike a "transgender", are actually female, being XX.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 20:46 shinohai: http://archive.is/KoGnA <<< Not mentioned here, how Coincheck asked the NEM developers to roll back chain ala mETH to recover losses.
mircea_popescu: so stop being so bothered! :D
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 22:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1777200 << well, does it ever bother you you spend an hour you'll never ever get back ?
mircea_popescu: better make sure there's replacement "representatives" "presidents" etcetera for the WHOLE list.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 22:16 phf: "... Only joint action by the G20 countries, as proposed by France and Germany, could be enough to become a game changer. ..."
mircea_popescu: lmao the zingers.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 01:01 mircea_popescu: v is esentially found today as an enchanted castle surrounded by 5000 rakes upon which the prince is welcome to step, and once he stepped he can come to us and by the shape in his forehead we can describe the rake he stepped on.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 19:24 asciilifeform: douchebag: does it ever bother you that you sell a $10k info for $1k ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1777200 << well, does it ever bother you you spend an hour you'll never ever get back ?
phf: articled penned by one Julia Ebner, who also wrote "The Rage: The Vicious Circle of Islamist and Far Right Extremism" https://www.vox.com/world/2017/12/19/16764046/islam-terrorism-far-right-extremism-isis
phf: "... Only joint action by the G20 countries, as proposed by France and Germany, could be enough to become a game changer. ..."
shinohai: http://archive.is/KoGnA <<< Not mentioned here, how Coincheck asked the NEM developers to roll back chain ala mETH to recover losses.
mod6: fwiw, if you're comfortable with py, and you're on a learning quest, then start with alf's
ben_vulpes: it is a matter of taste. would you rather read python or perl?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform's elaborates the fundamentals, mod6 has polished his to handle a bunch of edge cases.
douchebag: V implementation to use so that I understand how everything is working together
douchebag: Forsure, is there one you suggest me starting with?
ben_vulpes: douchebag: press a trb with non-"release" patches so's you understand usage, ideally sync the binary if you can afford the hardware. then, write your own v, test it, and bring it back for review.
ben_vulpes: there's also http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system
douchebag: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000161.html <- I'm looking at this right now, to get an understanding of what I'll be making.
ben_vulpes: guidance and beatins can be hard to distinguish at twenty feet when kiddo's reaching for the stove
trinque: I see guidance, not beating, no harm there
douchebag: Well, the web application would just be for viewing purposes, the PGP operations will still be done via command line. I am quite comfortable writing web apps using Python's Flask web framework
asciilifeform: let the d00d write his vtron. it's a homework, not a heroic quest . then -- beat with sticks. not before.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: let the kid speak for himself, eh?
ben_vulpes: still curious in re what this hypothetical webapp would do
asciilifeform: presumably has, or will use, then -- write.
asciilifeform: douchebag: this is not miserable american school . shoot first; ask questions second. make a vtron. if its function diverges in some way from previous vtrons, you will a) notice b) find out why c ) then, ~maybe~ later ask others, if cannot determine solution on your own
shinohai: No, not incurable, but simply needs to do time in the logs, etc. to cure the aforementioned head cockroaches.
asciilifeform: d00d gotta cure himself first, of the headcockroaches
trinque: just, the dickpulling can now go.
lobbes: douchebag, -as you read more- the "how can I best use my skillset" will become obvious to you
asciilifeform: douchebag: alternatively, ( or best of all, in conjunction ) read the ffa series and do the exercises.
lobbes: douchebag: while you are intelligent, and may have succeeded in sending mp to meditation room, realize that continued existence in this forum is predicated on you doing something useful for the Republic. Understanding -what- is useful will require (as trinque has been patiently explaining) "moar ready, less talky".
trinque: douchebag: skipped right over the reading *again* did you
douchebag: "V. You could learn how to program correctly, such as for instance by writing your own Vvi implementation, or by standing up an irc botvii, or by following the excellent manuals produced by the Lordshipviii. Bear in mind that it is deemed unethical within the Republic to write code if you haven't actually learned how to write it first, and that orcs' claims to have taught you something often turn out
douchebag: Well, I'm not the best programmer out there however I always make damn sure the code I do write is secure as it can be
asciilifeform: douchebag: look in the subjline for this chan
shinohai: Read the logs for starters.
douchebag: Eh, perhaps. It's mainly just a hobby of mine, and I'm constantly learning from it and it pays the bills for now.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Mudlark - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudlark>; Museum of London :: Mudlarks children's gallery: <https://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/museum-london-docklands/permanent-galleries/mudlarks-childrens-gallery>; Mudlarks of the 1700 and 1800s - Geri Walton: <https://www.geriwalton.com/child-mudlarks/>
asciilifeform: the most abject kind of slavery known, really
asciilifeform: douchebag: do you realize that you are doing the equiv of showing up at e.g. google campus and repainting the stairs in exchange for the pennies accidentally dropped there ?
trinque: nobody is inviting you to "be in the republic in your own way"
douchebag: Everyone else I know is working some shitty job, not getting a decent amount of experience, and they're just kind of stuck in the same place. Meanwhile, I'm just entertaining myself with the challenge of hacking these companies
asciilifeform: douchebag: on the contrary.
BingoBoingo: douchebag: I mean in the physical sense. You know... the old fashioned kind of flip and coin. Or flip and tire.
asciilifeform: douchebag: does it ever bother you that you sell a $10k info for $1k ?
douchebag: Not really too much, I've held onto coin and made a bit here and there. Typically I end up selling it right away so that I can get my cash in hand and not have to worry about waiting for the price to fluctuate. I know I should have held onto it
phf: i've seen the machinery work many times, though for some reason it reminded me of the case where it misfired, in a famous bit by feynman where he was cracking safes at los alamos, security resolution and the unexpected punchline is "don't let feynman near your safes"
mircea_popescu: phf the actual trick i use to force a "no, go down obv branch" is by prepending a "you know" or whatever. but, sure.
mircea_popescu: (the truth of the matter is that the power of human speech comes from parsing and collapsing very lengthy and complex trees ; one of the rules is "obvious branch is dead", which means you practically never assume one's stating the obvious, so you pick the alternative)
phf: well, i didn't know if you were aware, and i can always fall back to the usual log "but tis was for the reader!"
mircea_popescu: phf ah, so it was just stating the obvious for some reason ? i'm... aware that's how it propagatges o.O
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 23:37 NoSatoshisHear: centralized system, so one server counts the ticks, it would simply be a demo of reddit "the button" style idiocy combined with gambling. Sounds viral, like the 1918 flu.
mircea_popescu: consider just how weak this "r selection = bad" argument by looking at the principal class of problem we know a (sorta) solution for today. why even have bitcoin nodes when you could have a central server ? http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776507 ?
phf: but, the intent wasn't actually "of course x is bad", we've had conversation about that elsewhere, this was a pure cause/purpose "you're fat" situation: that's literally how security theater propagates!
asciilifeform: and to the 'mechanical puzzle' thread, aha.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that illegitimacy crosses a definition boundry (it doesn't mean the same thing in boston wharf side and in african village) and so leaves us stranded.
mircea_popescu: phf no, no, the structure of the argument, "X propagates via r-selection" is not delivering on what i expect is the intent ("of COURSE x is "bad" in the sense of illegitimate).
asciilifeform: ( but pointedly not in ~all~ pygmistans. recall the 'ru prison cheating at cards is not cheating if not obvious' thread )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'anyone could cheat with witchcraft' thing is a recurring motif in idjit pygmystans , verily
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm perhaps failing to find a point at which your analogy connects with the situation. i read it as "don't know on things that seem trivial"
mircea_popescu: and so : a homebreaker is a female that delivers on the "easy" part which "anyone could do" (sex) and not on the hard part -- and there's no quotes there because how about YOU try polishing an oaken table the size of a current usian garage each morning, plus rub the iron pots.
phf: wake me when there's a "too easy" on btcbase
mircea_popescu: obviously fucking the boss is mandatory in the workplace ; but this is specifically what http://trilema.com/2012/reguli-pentru-iobagi/ DIDNT want.
mircea_popescu: so men who fuck men have an "unwarranted" social advantage, and consequently off with their heads.
mircea_popescu: it's "unfair" (in the exact sense of childhood playground) and therefore "forbidden". because... obviously you can find a MALE partner to work with ; the question is to get one of the speaking cows to do it.
mircea_popescu: you may not be aware, but the ~original~ repression of faggotry has everything in common with the original repression of jews, masons, etc : it was perceived by the "normal" man that these "perverts" have it TOO EASY.
phf: i don't know the puritan arguments against sluts
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 17:12 mircea_popescu: not if it works to deliver the results above ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 16:15 mircea_popescu: in fairness, kid's got me meditating about the nature of things ever since last night. see, the trouble is : in his syustem, he has actually found a vulnerability, as a factual matter. in my system this is entirely meaningless. why the difference ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1776919 << could be the flip side of http://trilema.com/2012/strategic-superiority-a-saga/
asciilifeform: ( orwell aficionados will also remember his version of fefeleaga's bator , the sad horse character boxer )
mircea_popescu: the true horse killing was in 50s, when ceausescu decided to force agromecanization
asciilifeform: it's exactly the kind of thing that would be greatlyexaggerated. so i have nfi.
asciilifeform: there was this rumour of a 1time massive horse-to-sausage conversion when eu pressed on a ban against horse on roads
asciilifeform: possibly -- that's where they went.
asciilifeform: horse himself suffers the disadvantage of being edible
mircea_popescu: or maybe the chinese don't ship hay flavoured chips.
BingoBoingo: Mebbe horses provide less useful error messages to the locals? Thusly there were many available horses until they hit the same fate the cars do.
mircea_popescu has had the following unpleasant experience : was going to take whore tribe horseback riding ; called whorelist, "o sure, pick me up ?" ; called horse farms "nope, wounded/gone/booked/etc". HOW!!! could it be harder to get horses than whores!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Starting to get more attention for them again as my confidence recovers from the past weekend
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/01/26/mcdonalds-the-gringo-gets-his-groove-back/ << Bingo Blog - McDonalds: The Gringo Gets His Groove Back
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or that. ( the difficulty with privkeys-as-prizes is to show that they are in in fact inside the prizebox prior to play )
mircea_popescu: there is that.
mircea_popescu: how's the cocksuckers BingoBoingo ? apparently moar bloodsuckers.
BingoBoingo: Eh, not such a big deal. First weeks the bites itch and then your immune system stops caring and you cease to get quite the histamine reaction to the bites.
asciilifeform: i must admit to BingoBoingo , i have not yet experienced the 'joys' of this insect
BingoBoingo: In other exploits, tonight I will be sleeping in a different bed because axe time gas time has some for the chinches de cama!
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 16:34 asciilifeform: but conceivably one day there will be an idjit browser that gives obama root on yer box when it sees string 'open sesame'. and what, errybody gotta know in advance to escape 'open sesame', lol ?
asciilifeform: the difference b/w http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1776941 and e.g. koch-rng remains apparent to anybody with half a brain
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the whole thread is re the impossibility of a satisfying spec of any such kind.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: let's develop your picture. because it still isn't a complete one . because e.g. knowing the magicpacket for that particular box's nic, is not 'exploit for ffa', it is for $nic.
mircea_popescu: phf o yeah i know you're the fancy playboy type.
asciilifeform: coming next, pole vaulting contest where folx hop over the trump tower.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why not add 'and burns down the box' also.
asciilifeform: but even worse -- the type of effort that the work rewards, is exactly the wrong type
asciilifeform: the fruit hang so low , all muscles atrophy.
asciilifeform: there is the element of surprise , i.e. ' i had nfi that it would do X ' . but this is subjective, and impossible to say in advance that ' you had nfi that it would X '
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that wouldn't run js in the log page tho
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 16:34 asciilifeform: but conceivably one day there will be an idjit browser that gives obama root on yer box when it sees string 'open sesame'. and what, errybody gotta know in advance to escape 'open sesame', lol ?
ben_vulpes is reminded of the doctorow pulp, "human readable"
douchebag: So yeah, people who know what the typical url format is would likely know right away that something is up
douchebag: It could be URL encoded, so they wouldn't really be able to read anything
ben_vulpes: douchebag: so someone sends someone else a link with ?q=<script="diddledepageforme">, and unsuspecting b copies, pastes, reads everything but the url bar?
douchebag: It would all be within the url
douchebag: Basically, the javascript could be used to remove the logs that exist (on the client side mind you), and add in logs that are fake
douchebag: Able to inject Javascript, such javascript could be used to create a link that leads to logs that appear real, however they're completely fake
mircea_popescu: and yes ; but that doesn't make the luddite right in any meaningful sense
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Documents_of_the_Assembly_of_the_State_of_New_York_1838.pdf
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to carry the analogy, luddite dun care whether clock or orrery, thinks 'gears'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only in so much as the mosquitoes in my backyard have to do with your skin
mod6: the warren jefferies thing?
asciilifeform: recall few yrs back during 1st obummer term, for instance, when they set to work on the remaining ortho-mormons
asciilifeform: ( enemy has a very good idea of the efficacy of the mircea_popescu form of harem org , and tries to burn it down wherever and however the chance presents itself )
mircea_popescu: wants to fuck them himself, and what he can't fuck he kills.
asciilifeform: hm. gotta wonder then, wainot
BingoBoingo: AHA, the Family!
mircea_popescu: IN THE SEVENTIES.
mircea_popescu: in vaguely related lulz : there existed a cult which had the girls prostitute themselves for membership. (apparently it was tried with boys too, but it didn't pay.) eventually they just listed them as proper whores with "escort agencies". apparently a total of >quarter million men were made to feel religious however briefly during a decade.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely troo, there are no mechanical prostheses for love, loyalty, honour. the ancients -- knew this.
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is what we are gazing upon in amazement : that slavegirl must ~love~, ie that there is no mechanical solution to the problem.
asciilifeform: specifically such that puzzler specifically rewards the breaking of the proggy, rather than the condition.
asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu : asciilifeform sat down and tried to make a 'and i'll give you a 1btc prize' puzzler for douchebag re 'break pehbot' . but how to phrase the condition of said puzzle, i am still at a loss, burned half hour nearly.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 05:06 mod6: and it goes back to the same thing as with diana_coman. having two '++' at the front of the line. the way the vdiff is written, when it passes the diffed file off to awk to pattern match the ---|+++ it adds that '+' in the front, then it matches, causing it to call sha512sum.. which is where the false comes from. I think.
mircea_popescu: not the first, but yes, rare.
asciilifeform: ( and lol, this has gotta be the 1st time i hear mircea_popescu refer to a hardcopy of sumthing..? )
mircea_popescu: at issue is the resumption of a redeemable currency in fact, through payments in specie, supported by new york alone and firmly opposed by our good friends in http://trilema.com/2018/the-principal-agent-problem-or-how-america-went-away/#footnote_9_77193 (ie, 2nd national bank and the wide array of western and southern banks dependent upon it. because guess who brought you slavery in the sense of financing it ? oh yeah, the re
mircea_popescu: in entirely unrelated lulz : i recommend to the expert entomologist item #341 of the assembly of the state of new york, entered into record april 12, 1838 (a message from W L Marcy, the governor).
mircea_popescu: not if it works to deliver the results above ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:52 phf: i can see the education angle, and how it fails these people, but what i'm surprised about is the lack of personal drive? it's some kind of learned helplessness
mircea_popescu: well... didn't the problem appear misstated originally ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform admire the recursive gift : his "reputation in the community" doth indeed grow. what now.
mircea_popescu: but, take heart douchebag : there's not that many people your age that can say "hey, i sent mp to meditation room" ; and they're overwhelmingly female to boot.
asciilifeform: a flounder in epoxy , then.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the workings of this insane nut posse must be quite disconcerting to the professional. "i told this guy he had an xss hole in some file and he proceeded to sign an unrelated snippet of javascript".
mircea_popescu: in the future, it can be mecanicized.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't expect it'd work mechanically ; but there it is now.
mircea_popescu: // motherfucker who comes up with this shit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is one of those items that really wants the rsa fpga
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/01/26/la-desfile-de-inaugural-de-carnival/ << Bingo Blog - La Desfile De Inaugural De Carnival
asciilifeform: but what'll that do if browser dun check the sig
asciilifeform: gonna luvv the multi-second pageloads
mircea_popescu: i suppose on contemplation the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776155 would be to fucking sign javascript and you know "hey, we've had v for a while, get with the program. why are you running unsigned nonsense".
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 20:03 phf: mircea_popescu: a lot of xss detection "solutions" rely on grepping for known bad input, like "script" or whatever. and there are ways to sidestep that, like '<scr' + 'ipt>' or a='ipt>';'<scr'+a. in this case whoever is fucking with detection by using this truly wtf feature i've never heard of, <meta charset="a">b</meta> that apparently parses b according to charset a rules
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lo, aaaah, but where will you get a microshit bugcount. the stars in the sky themselves not sufficient to count !11!
asciilifeform: and the 'bad spec' thing is part of multilayered shit sandwich, the general principle is that complexicrud accretes; the overflows, etc. follow naturally ( with helping hand from kochs, dreppers, et al as necessary )
asciilifeform: the philosophical puzzler of 'what is a vuln' probably cannot be answered from strictly 1side pov. consider the ultimate degenerate case, microshit, who produces more vulns every day than mircea_popescu spermatozoids , but not 1 of them dings it in any substantial way ( and many in fact are a profit )
mircea_popescu: this is EXACTLY how it goes, and perhaps why there has not yet existed such a thing as a fully implemented specification or a fully specified implementation in empire lands.
mircea_popescu: imo a fabulous textbook example of how the imperial vulnerability cycle goes. 1. make a bad spec, a la SMGL ; 2. implement some portions of it only, because http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776189 ; 3. discover the bad spec is vulnerable, issue "best practices" for people to "santize". obviously this will not be made by 1 if 2 wasn't, so... 4) implement slightly more of the spec, throw security in disarray.
mircea_popescu: (because they didn't parse svg tags prior, not because "it doesn't work", he could have made it to work with plain script, so it's a separate issue, but quite germane)
asciilifeform: the xss thing ? aha
mircea_popescu: note the epic lulz of how the "vulnerability" doesn't even work until you gert to ff version 30.
asciilifeform: the interesting thing re js, is that entirely ~aside~ from traditional cmachine bugolade, it gets compiled c-cstyle nowadays, in popular graphical wwwbrowsers, ( how else to churn 50MB of google crapola ) and so e.g. rowhammerism works in it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform half of one, yes. needs the pingback to be full.
mircea_popescu: this triad : links, pingbacks, selection reference make up a whole NEW hypertext. just as far from the old as that was from text.
mircea_popescu: i honestly believe it's as big as the concept of link.