mircea_popescu: can you actually say the above snippet is "really kludge to display bouquets of statics properly" ?
mircea_popescu: the latter part is what we have issue with.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's angle is that it is wrong that there is no sane scheme for distinguishing these. and likewise for properly handling the fact that most of what people do with 'dynamic' is really kludge to display bouquets of statics properly
mircea_popescu: (for convenience, in pesudocode : select from an array of possible headers the one which corresponds to the remainder of dividing by 42 the number you obtain by converting from hexadecimal format the string you obtain by taking 6 characters from the 7th of the md5 hash of the current date)
asciilifeform: this goes back to the trinque thread, where he (correctly) observed that 'gimme resource R, find it using hash H' is a separate, conceptually, entity from 'perform command C and return result R'
mircea_popescu: that's the major challenge : can the argument be constructed to see what is actually wrong with that piece of gnarl ?
mircea_popescu: well, the baked in assumption here is that the tits, great as they are, benefit from impredictable dress prison each day.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is discussing the header production only.
asciilifeform: nor is there any way to link to an internal element of it ( sorta why mircea_popescu had to write his js hack )
asciilifeform: well for instance, that there's no way to link to it such that the receiver of the link is guaranteed to see the same thing.
mircea_popescu: now, what is the problem with non-static page ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 19:54 trinque: the hash says what item I want
mircea_popescu: actually, let's meditate together upon the following item, perhaps it resolves some subtle issues :
mircea_popescu: phf he was headed straight into "no such thing as static content, you can discover this whenever you re-read the same words in a trilema article", but he sidestepped.
asciilifeform: phf: it is also a v-ism, that's the thing
mircea_popescu: this said, the implementation is in fact kludgy, but this is no reason to alter the design.
phf: the notion of "static content" is a c-machine-ism
asciilifeform: prolly the way to unkludge it would be to give the various elements of the page, own urls, somehow.
mircea_popescu: i dun see it in a design perspective ; heck, i actually doin't even see the problem with php. (by the time you're protesting a text preprocessor being used as a systems language your problem is not properly speaking with the tool).
asciilifeform: not the header; nor that posts are editable (i've added errata edits to mine, etc) , but rather the ugliness of the kludge stack
mircea_popescu: so you loathe my changing header ?
asciilifeform: ( where we pretend that we're serving up files, but really generate on the fly )
asciilifeform: the whole 'dynamic pages' thing is a terrifying hack on classical http
mircea_popescu: but consider if you will the problem of dynamic content. every one (of what, 10k ?) pages on trilema changes at least once a day (header), and so on. what now ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 16:49 asciilifeform: phf: imho 'what, if anything changed' is a q that oughta be answered by a mechanism that can do it, when (as often is) wanted for the ~entire site~ compactly
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779585 << i suspect the ~only reason this is not in the standard is ~nobody wants to confront just about how little they actually have to say.
mircea_popescu: namesilo says they advertise ~15 mins, ftr.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 20:22 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo pardon my thickness, where do you want qntra ns pointed again ? ideally in the format ns1= ns2=
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779773 << 161.0.121.253 have a ns1.qntra.net set up there and a ns2.qntra.net at 161.0.121.252
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 16:40 phf: i suspect local orcs have alternative paths for procurement, was sop in russia in the 90s. you could go to "official dealer" type place and pay 10x, or you would haggle for price at Gorbushka, bazar style
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779566 << usually shop at end of campus. << Spanish Class with the Venezolana this evening was an survey of local retailers that don't catalog
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the push button at boot.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 16:41 asciilifeform: phf: i strongly suspect that nobody but gringo rubes ever order from these Official catalogues, or pay ANY vat, EVER
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779569 << i paid about 6-8% of the vat i conceivably owed in argentina ; mostly in the shape of "who the fuck's gonna bother with the 80 cent surcharge on this pair of ho's stockings"
asciilifeform: or is this re the 'push button at boot' item
asciilifeform: oh hm mircea_popescu found the screen brightness magic number ?
asciilifeform: tho i have nfi , possibly modern ru also has something of the kind
asciilifeform: ( they have errything from electron microscope to crapple )
mircea_popescu: and, continuing elitebook thread, now that alf fixed it for me it's actually worth the money.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-31 13:56 mp_en_viaje: in other "thanks goodness computer means programmable machine", i have here this hp elitebook. it has the backlight permanently welded to "retina cancer". the "function" key bs works for everything else EXCEPT setting the brightness, fn-f9 does 0.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 16:40 phf: i suspect local orcs have alternative paths for procurement, was sop in russia in the 90s. you could go to "official dealer" type place and pay 10x, or you would haggle for price at Gorbushka, bazar style
phf: mircea_popescu: i thikn that's what we're going to do, but i need to confirm my schedule. i'm still at the office, so i'll confirm in the morning
phf: also if you guys haven't seem http methods from original http2, https://www.w3.org/Protocols/HTTP/Methods.html TEXTSEARCH, CHECKOUT (like GET but locks the file), etc.
asciilifeform: ( i wouldn't plug it in even 1nce, 'to try', without ripping out the flash and bsdizing )
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 16:36 asciilifeform: for comparison, 24core opteron with 256G ram , with 4 ssd disks ( 1TB total , 750 after raid ) , and with the raid card, costs me still < 1700.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779554 << understand the good part here : AFTER we're done building up the racks, we can prolly also sell them. certainly we own a valuable3 item by comparison to the orcs.
phf: asciilifeform: well, it also doesn't have cgi/fastcgi so post would be somewhat pointless. i'm actually not sure what the strategy for post would be when there's no programmatic way to control it
asciilifeform: btw 'edgerouter' comes with unabashed nsa backdoor in the vendor's soft
mircea_popescu: how the fuck can 65% surcharge be not bad.
mircea_popescu: But $495 for a $300 in the US ubiquity Edgerouter Pro isn't too bad <<< i.... beg your pardon ?!
asciilifeform: not whole stack, either, didn't need e.g. dir listing
mircea_popescu: classic or the whole sftp wank ?
asciilifeform: PUT is oddball ancient thing, from before anyone even conceived of adding password or whatnot, 'hey, let's let user PUT items at arbitrary url on remote box' rather like ye olde warez ftp
mircea_popescu: i rather doubt this.
mircea_popescu: basically, people had a scheme, then started stuffing data in it (get was born) then stuffed so much discovered it really should go INSIDE the envelope not on it, so post was born
mircea_popescu: put uploads a file, post makes a get with the params in a different encoding
asciilifeform: they do ~same thing ?
mircea_popescu: and the rurals really dun give a shit some dumb broad hoping to study criminology in maryland thinks
mircea_popescu: mod6 some fucking sense would help. but the truth is toucan is eaten here traditionally
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 22:30 asciilifeform: fwiw i'm still quite convinced that errything other than GET and PUT is ~= prb orphanage.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1780191 << fyi darkhttpd is missing POST (i grabbed it to see if i could trivially extend their verb dictionary, which i can)
asciilifeform took a few sec to recall that this was about the bird
mod6: Sorry, got pulled off for a momemnt, just reading this thing. I dunno if they need laws for that kinda thing, just kinda not what is supposed to happen though.
asciilifeform: but really there's no reason why a server needs unixclone os etc. build small bin with gnat, that knows how to run the nic, has basic ip stack.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but the tightening point may be the very merkle tree in question, which could, for instance, be directly the addressing scheme
mircea_popescu: and it is a fact that a server's needs towards the disk are specific, specifiable, and very visibly different from "general purpose"
mircea_popescu: there is ~nothing wrong~ with http server NOT using standard fs but https-special fs.
mircea_popescu: the other perhaps important point is that extant http servers have a very loose and distant relation to fs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah, we're actually saying the exact same thing, i misunderstood what manifest you had in mind.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 16:10 trinque: "do I already have the item at $path" and "how big is the item at $path" are interesting questions without the server beginning to transmit the item itself.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779491 << moreover, a hash rather than a date would be the correct response here.
asciilifeform: if i want to know which of 10,000,000 files on a remote site changed, there is no fucking reason why i should have to download a list of 10,000,000 hashes, rather than binarysearch.
asciilifeform: i dun see the relation at all.
mircea_popescu: for the same reason "we cut gcc into more files, it is less big now" makes no sense.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 16:07 asciilifeform: then it oughta be in sections, and the sections in small manifest. merkle-style.
asciilifeform: i suspect that ocelot who knows to head other way when bipedal monsters appear, lives longer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems deductively self-evident that the superlative state of wildness is "has never seen man".
mircea_popescu: not like they signal anything properly in this country.\
asciilifeform: also possibly debatable re whether learning to fear men , is good for beast or not
mircea_popescu: if it doesn't and runs away it'll still remember the encounter. not good for it.
mircea_popescu: i prefer to encounter the bipedal kind instead. more fun, and good for all around.
asciilifeform: the natives managed to get eaten on occasion
asciilifeform: does the paper have a column for 'this year, eaten by jaguar'
mircea_popescu: anyway, shooting a toucan / cougar / etc seems pretty retarded. and nfi why you'd come all the way over here for fawn when you can just go to midwest like sane people.
asciilifeform: 'Firefighters rushed the bird to ZooAve in La Garita, also in Alajuela. The private center specializes in birds and is the current home of the world famous toucan named Grecia, also a victim of animal cruelty. The bird did not survive the loss of blood and the stress of the situation, ZooAve spokeswoman Mariann Ortega confirmed.' << prolly not the place for hunt aficionado...
asciilifeform: am i the only one who looks at mircea_popescu's priceless rare birds and thinks 'hm'
mircea_popescu: not much game, lotta protected animals, it's not really a hutning spot. there's some, but nowhere near what you're prolly used to.
mod6: much in the way of geese or ducks for game?
mod6: well thats sweet then.
mircea_popescu: mod6 he has no idea ; it's not expensive considering what the actual cost per round is. add in all the capital costs, including the fact you're wasting your time there rather than diddling the local highschool girls' volleyball team...
asciilifeform: it costs like fine wine. but is the Right Thing.
mod6: true enough mircea_popescu. if you don't properly shoulder the weapon, can have funny effects.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah and not like it's expensive. a case of "i'm buying the 25 cent a gallon item because i never heard of the 35 cent a galon"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the american teflon lubricant is pretty great ( i use it in various... gear )
mod6: one day it was -8 Deg. F. and we were out there, i had two times where cycle was slow. but cleaned shotgun after, never had same problem after that.
mircea_popescu: they probably do ; you can tell eg cold gun, slide barely moves forward, when it should slap right in. it's prolly crappy oil if the gun is clena.
mod6: i think most of these guys use that remoil stuff. i'll have to check into that.
mircea_popescu: no, really, the russkis have it. special winter lubricant.
mircea_popescu: well so they need cold oil, what.
mod6: it gets below say, 15 deg F. and bolt starts to resist from the gummy oil
mod6: i did see a lot of guys have failure to cycle/extract with their semi-auto .12gas during the hunting season.
mircea_popescu: "o, you're sick ? ok then!"
mircea_popescu: part of the problem is that "jam" describes about as usefully a bevy of conditions as "sick"
mod6: ive never seen that from the heat, only after barrel is uber hot from multiple mag-dumps
asciilifeform: mod6: normally the opposite, extraction fails
mircea_popescu: they can.
mod6: what, they cook-off rounds?
asciilifeform: oh hm ro kalash has the too-hot problem
mircea_popescu: anyway, not "one true reason", by any means. most idiots overgrease them, calamite jam.
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform's father has astonishing 'meat clock' ability, from many years of photo work )
asciilifeform: i betcha mircea_popescu did some pretty killer b&w photography back in the day
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: unfortunately not. Am here because I finally have a nice setup where I won't get kicked regularly. While I have been reading some FFA and DC I do not have anything running at the moment
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779473 << you know i'm mildly famous in meataspace for always timing my ping lists ~3-4 ms of the whole second ? so it's perpetually "time 8002ms" or w/e.
asciilifeform: hey gabriel_laddel -- other than substances... do anything noteworthy in recent times ? ever read ffa series ? interested in s.bisp ? read diana_coman's www ?
asciilifeform: the coffee in ro, asciilifeform salivates even remembering it
mircea_popescu: argentina ? not even! not that it's bad, but the standard coffee bar is made of gold-iridium alloyfor reason
asciilifeform: the coffee in ro is nearly same as this
asciilifeform: ( dunno how the unburned beans were smuggled into usa )
mircea_popescu: sorry gabriel_laddel i was just kidding about the coca tea. sent some to other people.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-06 23:02 asciilifeform: libffa ( the actual arithmetism ) is cumulatively ~1900 loc, (80col!11) inclusive of whitespace , banners, and commentolade ; ffacalc apparatus another ~900, ditto.
mircea_popescu: i get it, you're lazy, nothing wrong with it. the lazy implementation approach is even defensible politically.
mircea_popescu: most submarines do in fact have gills ; and way more is spent for their painting than on say car's.
mircea_popescu: neither is directly evident.
asciilifeform: idea is to make a submarine, it needs neither colours, nor gills.
asciilifeform: fwiw i'm still quite convinced that errything other than GET and PUT is ~= prb orphanage.
mircea_popescu: more apt would be to say it's the "yeah... aha... yeah" humming while someone's telling you how they crashed the car.
mircea_popescu: you understand keepalive is often issued by THE SILENT PARTY, while LISTENING ?
asciilifeform: why should somebody on a deadgoat modem be able to keep their socket open and move 0 data
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 15:59 asciilifeform: ditto OPTIONS and other liquishit.
asciilifeform: keepaliveism gives sour flavour in my mouth, in effect it permits 'oh i can't seem to shit, but DON'T kick me off the pot'
asciilifeform: i dun think keepalive ( of the http variety , rather than tcp's ) comes into play at all when you aren't on a dialup modem or similar horror
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 15:55 trinque: you're going to what, download the whole hundreds of gb every time you sync?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779452 << no because he doesn't have keepalive so his connection will die within the first mb every time anyway.
mircea_popescu: it's not JUST "did it update" ; it's also the issue of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773353 : how do you intend to find the location of your semantically identified content without redirects ?
mircea_popescu: the sum of the cost of getting ten items through one link between the same parties is lower than the sum of the cost of ghetting ten items through ten links.
asciilifeform: hey trinque , do you know the seekrit of this one ?
mircea_popescu: and how, because of the way threading half-works, how.)
mircea_popescu: (i don't mean it's the same thing ; i mean it's in the http because it was in the tcp.
mircea_popescu: cuz it's in the tcp standard.
asciilifeform: possibly none; i just have nfi why it's there
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779441 << what do you think the problem with keep-alive is ?
mod6: they got you huh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, he had the ( to this day unobtainable ) 'loongson' mips-top
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> shouldn't be over 20kgs all told, this ; should fit among clothes. << I used beach towels and blankets.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe to expose him for the fraud he is ?
asciilifeform: what did they want with rms's mips laptop, lol
mircea_popescu: somehow he went to india and they didn't steal his gf ; what do orcs want with weird non-galaxy looking cuisinart boxes.
laplinker: asciilifeform: they got ME code here https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-8762-inside_intel_management_engine
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think phf possibly was alluding to ordinary orc-theft of cargo, rather than the usgistic sort
asciilifeform: i.e. to shove red hot poker up the arse of 'intellectual property'
laplinker: asciilifeform: are you targeting before first fetch of the cpu?
phf: mircea_popescu: hey i flew moscow in the 90s, i'm trained that putting anything in luggage is playing a roulette
asciilifeform: as in, pull the ram sticks.
mircea_popescu: phf very different levels of "not in custody", even if we're accepting the objection.
asciilifeform: laplinker: nogood. the drm crapola runs first.
asciilifeform: exactly as i said then
asciilifeform: laplinker: either bios gets no say; or it's not actually active on reset
asciilifeform: these can't both be true
asciilifeform: ( ideally without using intel's shitware , in the latter, also )
asciilifeform: laplinker: and yes, what mircea_popescu said, write a post about this, i'd like to know what boxes this works on, how to talk to the chip, etc
asciilifeform: laplinker: how about after boot. can microshit tell that you're singlestepping their kernel ?
phf: hey, i'm down for a free vacation, but i'm not convinced that the costs work out in our favour
asciilifeform: they won't sit down in 1u even empty, just a bit too thick
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: pogo has the minus of taking up much vertical space when disk is in
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Looking for empty 1U cases. Put fans in there and affix pogos
mircea_popescu: laplinker make a pgp key if you don't have one, !!register and then you'll be able to self-voice once someone rates you
asciilifeform: phf: unless somebody's got a dedicated 3u travel crate, they prolly oughta move in the vendor crates
mircea_popescu: shouldn't be over 20kgs all told, this ; should fit among clothes.
mircea_popescu: phf the plan here is : 2 boxes alf already has + 5ish for me, depending on what we manage to extract out of his menu a la carte + some pogos if we are satisfied these can be run up.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo got a clear anything in mind, or just hoping it'l work ? have a case somewhere you intend to cram them in so we can look before committing ?
laplinker: asciilifeform: no i hadnt had the chance, sorry
phf: ben_vulpes: republican matters is like reading leaves, i'm trying to figure out dimensions and who's sending what first. fwiw shipping a rack full (as opposed to ascii's original "2 machines") is going to run up the bill just on the oversized charges with airline
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> also related, BingoBoingo if he brings you pogos, how do you plan to use ? decase and mount in an ad-hoc thing, 8-10-12 to the u ? << Pretty much this.
asciilifeform: they relay through specially made box
asciilifeform: phunphakt, ~halfthetime asciilifeform is on an icraptoy of whatever kind
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's been on icraps so long he forgot the kbd is intended for fingers
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i took copa via panama & bolivia, to c3 back in the day, it worked ok, ~empty planes some of the way
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: let's include several variants for completeness : 1) fedex , and chancing the VAT 2) somebody other than asciilifeform , who can go sooner, goes, delivers a box 3) BingoBoingo obtains box locally << Fedex to Montevideo is a certain VAT, and random chance of additional import duty.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform incidentally intel sayz good links to sa are all from miami/ft lauderdale etc ; not so much ny. << The plane that does the American Airlines direct Miami-Montevideo route is older than I am. Flights routinely cancelled for repairs. Copa's panama to Montevideo service though is reliable.
asciilifeform: moar general problem. if application is important, conceivably you can afford to throw out the 7 of 10 or whatever crates which show symptoms of having been opened.
mircea_popescu: the alf methjod, and i expect is correct, is "i got technical samples, i am taking to $conference" or w/e.
phf: well, main question is we're shipping in a crate proper, rather than say, luggage bag, it will be opened. in fact we're playing lottery here with opening, inspecting and tampering, seal or no seal
asciilifeform: ( where asciilifeform described a full-bore crackpotteristic potential answer to the seal problem )
asciilifeform: and grr i can't seem to find the glass ball thread
asciilifeform: i personally muchly luvv the subj
mircea_popescu: and very much NOT language ; nor the wheel.
mircea_popescu: but i find it a great cranktopic to crank in mind. if for no other reason than because it's probably the ancient invention of seal that we owe technology to
asciilifeform: the crate is chief problem.
mircea_popescu: yeah. there's many still open problems in re seals
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ru item was remarkable because it was verifiable with simple analogue electronics, no fancy patternmatching camera etc
asciilifeform: the hard part is to set it up such that enemy doesn't simply replace the ~crate~ around the lock loop and laugh all the way to the bank
mircea_popescu: AFTER you put the seal on.
mircea_popescu: but you melt glass (acetylene burner, not the end of world), laser burn the pattern into receiving fiber caught inside. seal blanks would look like old style fuses basically
mircea_popescu: "master, it buuuuurnsss" "for the republic!"
mircea_popescu: but not the shape of your 2nd concubine's clitoral hood or w/e you use
asciilifeform: not in the traditional plebeland sense ( i can set up a box such that with own hands i can see if it was opened. but what else is there ? )
mircea_popescu: put on the list, we discuss.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform get the girl to film that, now THAT is quality entertainment content.
asciilifeform: ( will require a 'game of sokoban' , believe or not, in my torture room, to actually access the boxen. )
asciilifeform: i'ma have to uncrate and photo then, later this weekend.
ben_vulpes: the time for talmudry is nigh!
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 18:40 asciilifeform: i have currently 3 boxen for pilot plant. all 3 contain 32cores of 'opteron 6376'. 2 of them contain 256M of ram; 1 currently has 24G ( can hold up to 256 ). each has 2 x G/sec nics, 2 x (reduntant) 700W ps .
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform merits absolutely, giving that there is a whole raft of future reference looking at a spark point in the past.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prolly doesn't merit entire post, given as most of the item is in the log.
mircea_popescu: nsa is not even on the map.
mircea_popescu: this dribbling of bits and pieces is set to become the principal enemy of the republic in terms of how much damage it does.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform rather, can i get out of you a post with what there is ; and what there can be had reasonably (out of the very narrow set of reasonable gear anyway)\
mircea_popescu: i think since we're doing this let's do it right, so get it an 8 cable card all sat down. what boards were these i forget ?
asciilifeform: the 8bay one still has the stock card, 8cable 3wares are costly, but can be had on reasonably short notice
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suggest something, whatcha got there ?
asciilifeform: this makes practical diff in re the ultimate capacity ( raid10 is wasteful )
asciilifeform: the one with 4, i've outfitted with a proper 3ware card that knows how to raid5 ( the stock card in mobo is also 3ware but only knows how to raid10 )
asciilifeform: 1 has 4 bays, other -- 8
mircea_popescu: aite, what's the menu like ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depending on what you need in the 2 virginal boxen, can be ready in ~wk
mircea_popescu: of course you two could also fly independently and meet there for mini bbisp conference
ben_vulpes: i live in possibly one of the worst places to travel from, but i've got two servers for the foundation sitting on my office floor i gotta get down there as well, so if asciilifeform's rotrip delay is that much sand in the gears i can make the run to uruguay
mircea_popescu: 11 days should be enough for alf to bake the boxes i expect. danielpbarron i think he's better suited as they're right next to each other ; but pending discussion with bb can you fedex some pogos ?
mircea_popescu: phf you can also book with a day+ layover in panama on your way back. for one thing you get to see the place and despise panama for good reason rather than by hearsay ; for the other flight over here is ~1hr ~every hour.
mircea_popescu: i'm picking up your flight if you're putting in the sweat.
phf: 13h flight, yeah that's basically indian territory, so makes sense for the price.
mircea_popescu: copa is cheap-ish and pretty good ; the rest are gringo airlines doing dumb shit like hubbing through us cities. which makes your voyage split 3/10 rather than 5-7 or so
mircea_popescu: they generally connect you through panama, which is not bad for your case, middle of the way
phf: well, sometimes if you have to travel with, like, farmers transporting their goats and such, it can be a reasonable price in return
mircea_popescu: see what coppa has to say ? they generally have sub 1k 2 weeks out sorta thing.
phf: dc all airports to montevideo LATAM, Avianca, also the usual pick of american, united, etc. looked at flights.goog. i suspect there's some indirect hop from southern u.s. but flight there within u.s. from dc is not going to be cheap ("going to warm places vacation season")
phf: fwiw, i could pick up ascii's stuff and go next week even, but the flights are ~~$1200, which i don't have a budget for at the moment.
mircea_popescu: and re the "use ips" : very cheap solution is to run bitcoin nodes, i'm told. those evidently can't share ips.
mircea_popescu: also related, BingoBoingo if he brings you pogos, how do you plan to use ? decase and mount in an ad-hoc thing, 8-10-12 to the u ?