asciilifeform: nuffin in that rack weighs moar than a roman legionary's kit. theoretically even 1 can carry.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: bring the gurl or somebody trusted and hand-carry'em if you must.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Next dive I want to recover mod6's data, whatever fits in the mochila that isn't the switches or power cables. Then I plan to ask for access to the door for wheels.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the sooner you officially stop the service, the moar likely can recover sumthing from the orcs. tho , as mp pointed out, it is difficult to picture that we'll see a penny
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: try to get the machines out. errything else after. don't break yer back tho. << Three machines in one trip with wheels went well enough 4 should not be a problem. Without wheels, I am contemplating the logistics as we speak
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ok. next wheelbarrow plox to rescue trinque and mod6 . then the rest, when you can.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It should be paid up through the end of this month per my notes. Then there's + 7 business days, etc, etc per the contract.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: until what day exactly is the rack paid up ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: try to get the machines out. errything else after. don't break yer back tho.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What remains are all the rails, misc unused adapters and more USB TTYLs, The Rockchip plant, a small mountain of power and network cables, the rackmount power strip, the two switches, and the following 1U servers that will need wheeled out:
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform mod6: I plan to return and SSH into the box.
asciilifeform: ( the latter largely 'academic' curiosity , but curious )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: got it. what remains in the cage ?
lobbesbot: mod6: Sent 57 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> I apologize, but I have not yet backed up your server. I will return with the disks, power it on again, and see what I can do with the credentials you passed.
mod6: Thanks BingoBoingo. If it proves difficult to get logged into the server with the disks in the enclosures; perhaps don't worry about it, can just ship the disks back. But while you're at it, it may be pretty helpful if you pull out the raid card and drive cables to the card and send that along as well.
BingoBoingo: When I went earlier and wheeled out the three servers, there were two receptionist girls in the glass box. When I returned on disk mission, there was no one in glass box well before normal departing time.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mod6 I apologize, but I have not yet backed up your server. I will return with the disks, power it on again, and see what I can do with the credentials you passed.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform and everyone else: All disks are out of the rack with the exception of the RockChip kernel SD cards. Maybe a couple of unused RK spare are hiding in the bilge box. A variety of miscellaneous was recovered as well including the KVM, a couple handfuls of USD ttyls, the unsealed FUCKGOATs that were plugged into RockChips, and for sentimental value the Qntra/DNS server I flew into the country with because it's tiny ass fit in
asciilifeform: 'lately spring broke, from cold, / like from prison, once more, / by mistake once i let out a word: / 'friend, leave a little to smoke!' / silence -- was all i heard, as he never returned from the war.'
diana_coman: thank you asciilifeform for the vpatches.
asciilifeform sat down to read some ossasepia while waiting for a compile, and then 'damn, it was on piz!', and qntra, it's like having 4+ phantom limbs...
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:06:48 mp_en_viaje: http://trinque.org/wp-content/themes/trinque/style.css << i see the problem now. your browser prolly hangs on this diana_coman ; i have ly set to just ignore
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i made same mistake the other day, was convinced i had made a broken patch
diana_coman: asciilifeform: nm, found the trouble, it was corrupted sig file on my end; sorry about the trouble, it's been a long day here.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: you see the problem on "uninterrupted" but others see it on "think about something" , you know
asciilifeform: which is why when i encounter a fella like shinohai, who has 100% of his time, it boggles my mind that he hasn't built a thermonuclear dirigible simply as a side effect of basic fucking metabolism
asciilifeform: lobbes: speaking strictly for self -- 'quick' jobs are quick because they (incl. 'fit problem in head' phase) can be fit into a single slot in b/w salt mine idjicies. whereas things large enuff as not fit, much moar friction. (erry time must load it in... again, again, ... )
asciilifeform will be the last 1 who is to be asked re training critter, must leave the subj to folx w/ actual high pilotage under their belt, mp & co
asciilifeform: they , like erry scamatron, are more interested in getting new rubes to sign fat contract than to actually service existing. ( esp. if 'new contract' is 'netflix cache' etc )
asciilifeform: they were thought to be untrainable. but turned out that erry cat had a performance that he's willingly do. was matter of finding.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ah, sà they fixed that number light thing
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942688 << lobbes , i am prolly the slowest pair of hands here, mp never once misses a chance to remind of this...
asciilifeform in piz tower pushed what looked like button in the lift, it fell N stories down, and hole -- razor-sharp
diana_coman: asciilifeform: atm I don't have box ready for this (I wasn't actually prepared for pizarro death, what can I say) + I'd rather know a bit more about those to whom I'm sending boxes, dunno.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems like 9000x greater concern for their (indeed mirror-smooth, i nearly slipped on it) marble floor , than for working dc!!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everytime we did this with the wheeled luggage, the WTC people wanked the same wank, but with the luggage we always did that in one shot and non-issue. Card works normally for normal doors.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sorta why i dun even look at other than colo anymoar
diana_coman: so despite the lovely amd, I think I can't currently stomach its masters.
diana_coman: I suppose I'm so outside of their corporation worksheet that they just blink for 4 minutes and reset to next point on the checklist
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sounds like the typical 'leper's bell' of 'we do only what's in this here 3ring binder'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Apparently they don't want wheels scuffing up the floors of the lobby, hence have to use service entrance
diana_coman: asciilifeform: while they were willing to talk/ask someone else to come and talk to this weird woman, they were utterly shocked at ~any request; to the point of 4min silence followed by a total change of subject
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's still neato. wonder if they'd cut out impi, emplace raid, FG .
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Was instructed to ask Latecho to add the handcart door to my card to use the hand truck again. Going for all disks, all I can carry without wheels trip.
diana_coman: but no, they called 3 dudes to talk to me and still can't get over this outlandish idea that I do.not.want.to.make.account.with.them
lobbes: Add in the feedback cycle, digging into mpwp mysql guts, new additions to spec tacked on (here I would link to various documented pieces on blog, if I had a working one) and I don't come anywhere close to 5-hours. It will be serving Trilema, and it is needed to be correct in one go; no do-overs. My reputation's on the line here. Spot of work my foot!
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-08 19:40:36 diana_coman: asciilifeform: I somehow think I might not be the only one valuing your seal; but anyway.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942398 -neah, Reading near London; there are a few data centers right next door, it's a rather active area in this sense.
diana_coman: myeah but a bit too many potentially + having to get to it is yet another thing on top of a huge pile
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if yer box is in a place you can potentially physically get to -- the reqs for the innkeeper are much looser potentially
diana_coman: but yes otherwise and moreover, it's no diversity if I don't go with moldavians but I go with Bucharest; 0 diversity in that really
diana_coman: ie it's one thing if you look at it to make an isp and another if not
diana_coman: fwiw romanians are *still* the most responsive for some reason; and honestly, I even tried to steer away from ro.
diana_coman: some are at least...looking to see if they can
diana_coman: I got to the point where I'm firing them emails ~ can I order that or the other *without* your "account" that I utterly don't need; and similar.
asciilifeform: nuffin catastrophic in that patch, simply cures the single-quotes thing.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I somehow think I might not be the only one valuing your seal; but anyway.
asciilifeform: and ty diana_coman , i did not know that you esteemed the seal.
mp_en_viaje: aite well, shall be off for the night.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rk per se is perhaps the least expensive piece in there, asciilifeform for instance is sitting on a crate of 16 new ones right here and presently nfi what to do with'em
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can retrieve it last, if you must. get the disks labeled and out 1st, they ought fit in pocket.
BingoBoingo: Well, the width makes it a challenge for that. Back bag only so tall. Strongly disinclined to leave it open an take the astronomicly small chance pichi blazed out on pasta base gets unusually curious/bold.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right. The ones I haven't yet taken are coming out next trip. Had to get more labeling tape
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For the next three extractions I am leaning towards taking mod6/BTF, trinque, and the shared leaving Qntra/DNS, Rockchip plant, S.NSA vacant, switch, and the bilge box to be extracted
ossabot: trinque last seen in #trilema on 2019-10-03 22:53:34: sorry for the gagged deedbot meanwhile; that outage caught me in the middle of a multi-channel experiment
ossabot: trinque last seen here on 2019-10-03 22:53:34: sorry for the gagged deedbot meanwhile; that outage caught me in the middle of a multi-channel experiment
mp_en_viaje: there's no real reason it should take a u rly.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: fwiw the 1 i purchased for piz, didn't even occupy a rack slot, it was ultracompact matchbox-cum-wires thing
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 13:39:05 asciilifeform: in piz, we solved this by having kvm device in the rack. apparently heathens no longer keep these around, near as i can tell.
asciilifeform: i dunno who these people think they are, to ask for half the cost of a whole flat, for 1u. but so far these.
asciilifeform: so far seems that signif. higher cost in northern idiotistan, if only on acct of 'buy 1 hole' vs cage . tends around 300-400 $ per .
asciilifeform: rather than freight mails.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: advantage of local orcs, supposing can agree on price, is that if their park suxx, can walk over and remove in half hr
mp_en_viaje: either they behave or they misbehave, how they explain it to themselves is not even interesting to "their' women.
mp_en_viaje: at the worst they're giing to "omfg, child porn". which 100% maps to "ddos", orcs just went dumb.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'ma then investigate .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 13:27:36 asciilifeform: again experimenting w/ 'what if within physical range of asciilifeform ?' but does not expect fat return. granted these wouldn't in a million years eat btc, but w/ mp's agreement, asciilifeform could feed it orcbux and eat btc . in principle.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 13:28:26 asciilifeform: i would not propose to attempt 'isp' in the heart of mordor, but possibly could house a box or two that way.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942531 << why not, specifically ? what are they going to do, at the worst, else/dffferent from orctards in ~selected~ orcland ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 12:31:23 asciilifeform: some places immediately seem broken tho. e.g. asciilifeform only needed a day in bucharest to understand that would not want to live there.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 13:06:49 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941226 << The 'first chunk' which spits lines into the mpwp db should be complete by the end of this month (as in patched and ready to go). That's a conservative estimate as well; hopefully sooner.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:34:35 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941357 << i meant the whole thing, when you're ready to make delivery and i hafta have a server ready for you to do this on.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:24:16 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941645 << at my current rate of developing the thing, I will give a tentative estimate of Jan 1st 2020 as delivery date of whole enchilada. I will update this deadline quickly if I see it threatening to be pushed
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Only folks who said anything were the ones at the building door. Instructed me to use a different exit next time.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: laters then
BingoBoingo: Hanging off of predictably unresponsive Centurylink, who the probably selected on the basis of "biggest, etc" along
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: These per the narrative I was given were passed by dedicado suggesting we are several layers deep in unsustainable sysco weird.
asciilifeform: seems like (supposing it even makes sense to discuss the output of muppets as if it were a measurement) represents the intake ~after~ it has gone through latech. i.e. the 'they blocked us upstream' story of theirs dun check out.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:47:49 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942095 << holy shit wtf muppetry is all this already. https://ibb.co/0K2Z4TK screenshot of a java-run console emulator wtf omfg kill it with fire. AND the unquotable line shows... exactly what we were discussing. they capped out at 4Mbps and thassit.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942333 << ftr i found it impossible to determine ~anyffin from the given photos.
asciilifeform: rather than wheelbarrow 3km.
asciilifeform: i rec cab for movement of these.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Will use some sort of cushion. The full sized boxes are too large for any suitcase I brought to Uruguay. Hence the value of your ancient giants.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you roll'em 'naked' on a wheelbarrow, are likely to suffer the fate of harrison's 1st chronometer.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aite, I acquired ratcheting straps for the hand truck. About to get some boxes out.
asciilifeform: storage aint restricted to thumb-sized stick, either -- at least 1 subscriber iirc had a full-sized 'samsung' ssd plugged in via snake.
asciilifeform: they have quite respectable performance, for e.g. blog; and nuffin intelistic inside'em. Gb nic, too.
asciilifeform: will of course cost like any other box .
asciilifeform: as for why anyone would want an rk back -- potentially could colo'em , if you buy a 19in box (20bux or so) . most colo outfits dun give a damn what you colo so long as it hangs on the rail .
asciilifeform: anyone who has something other than a raid5 and wants disks mailed, plox to indicate.
asciilifeform: a 'last hurrah' of the raid5 functionality.
asciilifeform: folx who want live disks mailed, are to understand that the integrity of their contents cannot be guaranteed.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rk's i suggest to be offered to their current inhabitants for cost of postage. ( and if anyone would rather have the disk stick cremated, oughta indicate, and it then added to the pyre ) . the rk's per se have no writable storage aside from the sd & stick .
asciilifeform: and BingoBoingo will have to decide wat-do re the crater. at the very least must get out of the latech contract, or may have to evacuate on short notice .
asciilifeform: nao, to continue the funeral, at some pt shareholders will have to decide what-do re the remaining pieces, incl. coin. specifically, how much to burn on attempting orc lawsuit etc.
asciilifeform: for os, we had a BingoBoingo who physically soldiered in the rack w/ boot sticks etc.
asciilifeform: in piz, we solved this by having kvm device in the rack. apparently heathens no longer keep these around, near as i can tell.
asciilifeform: the spread of the impi retardation among heathens is potential problem: would have to either swallow it (i disabled in all of these) or find someone who , like the moldavian, is willing to serialport ( dun solve the problem of os installation tho, to such a place would have to ship'em with disks containing something resembling os )
asciilifeform: as i understand, diana_coman has asked for the old disks to be cremated, so the smg boxes will need redisking, but potentially this could be done on-site where they are to go
asciilifeform: re smg again -- if diana_coman wants cleaning/redisking/inspection, i'll do it , but oughta keep in mind that if they visit usa there is moar likely to be what to inspect for in 1st place, obv.
asciilifeform: the smg boxen (already FG'd etc) i expect diana_coman will want sent straight to where they are to live again. and meanwhile they will go under BingoBoingo's bed or similar.
asciilifeform: i would not propose to attempt 'isp' in the heart of mordor, but possibly could house a box or two that way.
asciilifeform again experimenting w/ 'what if within physical range of asciilifeform ?' but does not expect fat return. granted these wouldn't in a million years eat btc, but w/ mp's agreement, asciilifeform could feed it orcbux and eat btc . in principle.
asciilifeform: esp. since the moldavian fella's candidacy fell down. may be a while before a destination is found .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 05:54:07 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, will you want the boxes shipped over to you first to inspect seals and so on ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942225 << dulap -- yes, would like to spend some time w/ it ( it needs new disks, and prolly ducts to be cleaned ) but as for the other boxen, oughta ask their operators where they want'em to go.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems like the FGs will be going here, plox to obtain a suitable crate, i'ma gpg addr later today
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 11:10:21 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942110 << hey, the week after being threatened with being left behind in her streetwalker outfit for failing to read cyrillics, bimbo got in trouble for not knowing german.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942344 << lol, i thought you didn't let'em off leash until they knew local lang
asciilifeform: some places immediately seem broken tho. e.g. asciilifeform only needed a day in bucharest to understand that would not want to live there.
asciilifeform: simply coming out of the gulag is unspeakable 'trip', aha
mp_en_viaje: man who came in from the cold might even think zyklon "showers" pleasant smelling for a spell
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, the problem with pollution is such, that any movement is helpful -- the great boon from escaping the toxin cocktail you're already overthelmed by will overpower on the short term any shortcomings
mp_en_viaje: because stronger fambly insulates them as its ~only output.
mp_en_viaje: ignm as poor as they are actuallty means in practice
mp_en_viaje: i was deeply unimpressed with the rusland orclettes. yes, tall and slender, but no tits no ass, dumber than fucking rocks in any case. latinas at least have some vague notions of functional social insertion, but the radiocontaminated remnants of that fallen empire are pretty much exactly the white trash except vastly pretentious and deeply unexperienced with what be
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> ex sovok slightly lower cut of orc than ex-spanish empire. << The diversity of Latin folk here creates spaces where not everything is pure resistance all the time.
asciilifeform aint even sure if he 'believes in isp' any moar. there may not be such a thing as a 'safe basket for 9000 eggs'
mp_en_viaje: whatevs, just raises the bar to lordship some more.
BingoBoingo remembers seeing Windows 95 rollout at the local walmart. People saying "Oh, this is going to be like cars with new models denominated always and forever by model year"
mp_en_viaje: i wouldn't agree, having been there recently.
mp_en_viaje: pretty sure i put this in the log somewhere, about how all the bums collect artefacts, even if broken, to stroke their spurious feelings of belonging
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you get chance to take up ex-sovokistans , i recc to take it. they're a higher cut of orc imho .
mp_en_viaje: im sure all the miamists in shitole, anywhere buy apple whatever.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mostly don't want to go back to the Zone. Chick is a part that weighs in favor of LATAM as preferred area out of zone.
asciilifeform: whythefuck would anyone ~pay~ for it
BingoBoingo: In fiatardation and "targeted sanctions": Adobe canceled their software subscriptions to all customers with Vzla billing addresses, no refunds.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 11:29:36 mp_en_viaje: you never know what you get. BingoBoingo went to uy to make a dc and apparently wants to stay for some chick ~from peru~ (who guaranteedly didn't go there to meet a gringo from the greater chicagoland areamasssurface) ; i i went to costa rica for pride and stayed for the climate, etcetera
mp_en_viaje: jaywaling in 3 seconds is a lot more feasible than jaywalking in 3 days -- even the most deserted roads get a coupla cars / week
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not disputing the general principle. but finding it difficult to see how would have made a diff re the latech thing.
mp_en_viaje: but be all this as it may, not like you're not paying for it : the longer you spend prone, the likelier you get hurt.
mp_en_viaje: well, either one or the other of the statements is false. either you did not sell because idiots ; or else did not sell because had not to sell. if the latter's the case, you had not to sell because you took your sweet time.
asciilifeform: other than 3x moar pissed off subscribers.
asciilifeform: would've made 0 diff in re the specific bullet.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 11:22:00 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942155 << yeah, was remarkably slow. you're a master at discounting time-cost and time-risk, but consider : the probability of something like latechco weird occuring JUST AS you were preparing a supply run increases linearily with the amount of time you spend in that phase.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942359 << what would a full crate delivered to a dead cage have done ? ( other than to make asciilifeform completely, rather than near-completely, broke ) ?
mp_en_viaje: you said "my place is ordained here" i asked who ordained. you said "priests". this begs the question, why are you here ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: you've the complete plans, so can remake. but is fiddly process, likely to take a while.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, so if your top nodes are designated by w/e priests, what are you bothering me for ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942357 << in the olden days, priests designated. today/usa moar complicated, but very similar process.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, they will be gassed with anyway, ima just have to have someone else remake 'em.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 11:16:43 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942135 << well, i don't particularly wanna ship these to cr ; i suppose we're uncovering a storage problem here ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942354 << i dun mind storing'em, just like didn't mind before they went to BingoBoingostan. they occupy only a briefcase. but also imho would be a shame to lose'em just because asciilifeform is gassed. ( and at some pt ~will~ be gassed, does not have a plan for to escape )
mp_en_viaje: ah yes, they do owe us some money, but i wasn't converted afaik.
mp_en_viaje: either you provide some link or ima have to go fishing for wtf happened here.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do you have the log piece handy ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not equity. S.NSA holds pizarro debt for the FG and machines
mp_en_viaje: at least girls have enough sense to "oh, thank you for making me go naked the first time, AND THEREBY GIVING ME MY OWN BODY BACK"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Since Intel own-goaled on the optimizations thing and Intel lost the speed war, the NuOpterons have been selling
mp_en_viaje: i am vaguely miffed in that i gave the dood his real name back and he never as much as acknowledged this service ; but then again such idiocy is typically common for the cuckbois.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 11:15:24 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942129 << wait, wtf, i'm a shareholder now ? when the fuck did that happen, i have no record of owning any equity
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:41:12 diana_coman: o.O there's at least one isp in bucharest actually offering an AMD Opteron dedicated ; take that asciilifeform !
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942320 << if they're un-fritzchipped (i.e. pre-2014) opterons, and sans-ipmi, i'ma be impressed. but even any kinda opteron offer -- rare nowadays .
mp_en_viaje: i still don;t perceive the difference between above quited john d. and historical curtis y, or tucker m. or etc. this may be a failure of my differentiator, but w/e.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the 'corporate' product was 100% mitistic aha. i tuned in when was 1 d00d. chronicle piece re subj for anyone who cares.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 09:03:39 mp_en_viaje: Hi, IÂm John D., your father and in this episode of Rated ARM TV, IÂm gonna tell you the story of how I personally dismantled my own already incredibly awesome life in an attempt to give you, my one and only son a much better one than I had as a child, why it had to be done, and why this type of sacrificial behavior is one of the main ingredients of being A Real Man."
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: indeed a thing, and is why republican-biz is different from arbitrarily 'clever' and 'flexible' etc heathen
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:35:29 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942059 << wasn't early. "solidcoin" lulz was early, this dude was with the "ehtereum"/mit labs crew.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942313 << ended up in it ( where imho he belongs ) but started out a disconnected crackpot in the wild, which is how asciilifeform started reading him then
mp_en_viaje: no, simply thinks theres things moar important than money.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:29:47 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, how does it feel btw, to watch guys supposedly so far ahead in the race it brings tears to a man's eyes, nevertheless stumble over such "nothings" ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 05:47:08 mp_en_viaje: it's a hardware rng. i'd link you the specsheet / pics etc but atm its site is down
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 11:32:06 diana_coman: after going through ~30 pre-selected ISPs and getting more of a headache than anything useful out of it, I'll take a break and a deep breath; at this rate I'll end up going to datacentre ~1km from here and at least talk to some idiots face to face rather than via email/chat/whatever.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942374 << this ftr isn't even that terribru an idea, if my amusement overwhelmed the substance.
mp_en_viaje: ima of course pay for the damage
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, will you be able to photodocument the destruction of said drives once you get the ok, currently some point soon after sun 13th ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 07:10:49 diana_coman: both test and production servers backups seem fine and up to date at a minimal inspection; full test means setting them up and there's the involved issue of full environment for them (versions of everything and so on); for this reason I'd say end of this week (Sun 13th) rather than "today"
diana_coman: sure; but then what, am I going to run after him with more money, wtf.
diana_coman: it's one thing to say he can't this and that; it's another thing to piss on business, dunno.
mp_en_viaje: whodda thunk the problem of gender in tech is how to actually get any boys in at all.
diana_coman: but atm I need a home for ossasepia.com and one for younghands.club and Maxim rather pissed me off
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, and we just make the republic girl-only at that juncture also ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 03:52:09 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941886 - I'll fire him an email in a bit; thing is I'll be at console some 10 minutes past the austrian-10am
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942166 << seems this worked out alright in the end!
diana_coman: after going through ~30 pre-selected ISPs and getting more of a headache than anything useful out of it, I'll take a break and a deep breath; at this rate I'll end up going to datacentre ~1km from here and at least talk to some idiots face to face rather than via email/chat/whatever.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, yes but his whinings were the stuff of legend. "SOLIDCOIN WIL LTAKE OVER!!!"
mp_en_viaje: you never know what you get. BingoBoingo went to uy to make a dc and apparently wants to stay for some chick ~from peru~ (who guaranteedly didn't go there to meet a gringo from the greater chicagoland areamasssurface) ; i i went to costa rica for pride and stayed for the climate, etcetera
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:36:07 mp_en_viaje: anyoen recall the solidcoin btw ? such fucking great early-usg retardation, it was phenomenal. the empire of idiots is really following in some glorious footsteps with their genius "ideas".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:29:47 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, how does it feel btw, to watch guys supposedly so far ahead in the race it brings tears to a man's eyes, nevertheless stumble over such "nothings" ?
mp_en_viaje: sure, "not 1% dug". if you take forever to do anything, you'll never have done anything at any point, it's the way this works. gotta move fast and act decisively to get anywhere ; and no, this comes with no guarantee you'll get anywhere you wanted to go in the first place.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 15:29:42 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: dun fughet where bv ended up delivering a crate for the cost of 3
mp_en_viaje: you're quick to remember eg http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1941028 but not similarly quick to remember how exactly that came to be, namely that we had a supply run all scheduled and you twattled and twittled for SO FUCKING LONG it missed the window. remember, phf was gonna go, etc ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 01:09:40 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fwiw piz was to be also asciilifeform's escape tunnel, but dug not even 1% of it, so is the smallest loss.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942155 << yeah, was remarkably slow. you're a master at discounting time-cost and time-risk, but consider : the probability of something like latechco weird occuring JUST AS you were preparing a supply run increases linearily with the amount of time you spend in that phase.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 01:00:43 asciilifeform: y'know, the designated spot where a pauper paups.
mp_en_viaje: is the idea you're actually packing to move out of us or what exactly is the underlying unspoken content ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 00:54:20 asciilifeform: imho castle mpstein would be a proper home for the remaining FG's, asciilifeform does not know how long has 'until sepsis' .
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942135 << well, i don't particularly wanna ship these to cr ; i suppose we're uncovering a storage problem here ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-08 01:46:08 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-07#1941897 << S.MG was to buy the two machines through payment of machines in kind
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 00:49:46 asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942089 << if neither mod6 nor mp ( the other shareholders ) disagree , i'd like all of the piz irons to be sold for modest cost to the current tenants, who can then use .
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942129 << wait, wtf, i'm a shareholder now ? when the fuck did that happen, i have no record of owning any equity
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 00:47:33 asciilifeform: the specific flavour of x86 boxen asciilifeform is partial to, has become a rarity, and imho worth to recover all of it for reuse.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 00:41:26 asciilifeform: ( what to do there, is separate q, if i knew i'd buy for self also ! )
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 00:27:09 BingoBoingo: She's been working on getting some English language, but ripping her out of the Spanish language space and bringing her to eastern Europe and Slavic languages to get colocated with me near another datacenter... When the necessity of spreading seems to have been one of the lessons... It seems a bit much.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942110 << hey, the week after being threatened with being left behind in her streetwalker outfit for failing to read cyrillics, bimbo got in trouble for not knowing german.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 00:11:21 lobbes: it is easy to look at, say MP, and go "well I'll never even be close to doing the things he does", but to me BingoBoingo's story is uniquely inspirational in that folx like myself can go "well, he made the jump into uncharted waters. He built *something* even if the resistance of the medium won in the end. Why couldn't I also build something?"
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942101 << notwithstanding the resistance of the medium always wins in the end, i'm sure you could.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: my younghands.club backups are fine too so I can confirm I don't need anything from the shared machine re younghands.club either.
diana_coman: both test and production servers backups seem fine and up to date at a minimal inspection; full test means setting them up and there's the involved issue of full environment for them (versions of everything and so on); for this reason I'd say end of this week (Sun 13th) rather than "today"
diana_coman: the website's backup is fully fine (ie from the shared pizarro machine nothing's needed for smg)
diana_coman: I doubt it makes any difference though ie it was just me and dpb connected and neither of us active otherwise.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: my latest db backup on production server is from Saturday (5th October); apparently the Sunday one didn't make it through.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942095 << holy shit wtf muppetry is all this already. https://ibb.co/0K2Z4TK screenshot of a java-run console emulator wtf omfg kill it with fire. AND the unquotable line shows... exactly what we were discussing. they capped out at 4Mbps and thassit.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: before asking to destroy, I'd much rather go through the steps of actually restoring from existing backups though; ie yes, backups we certainly have but I wouldn't push destroy button just yet if it's not burning hot.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, do we have backups or do we need them ? if we need them ima have the disks mailed, but if not, i'd much rather have BingoBoingo destroy them.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 22:46:42 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-07#1941897 << S.MG was to buy the two machines through payment of machines in kind
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942089 << ah so basically, pizarro owns the two smg machines. yes, this checks out with our accounting here.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 22:08:54 asciilifeform: will miss the golden time of when could put a box in a locking cage where only l1 human , rather than dirty paws of heathens, will lay on it
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942075 << this is kinda why before the "we can't talk to people" fire started raging, the design for pizarro was to do multiple dcs.
diana_coman: o.O there's at least one isp in bucharest actually offering an AMD Opteron dedicated ; take that asciilifeform !
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942062 << the uy nonsense caught you just right huh!
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942061 << this is not even far off ; much like saying "the cost of eating fastfood as a teen is the health bills as an older adult, not the 99 cents they charge at the clown's mouth"
mp_en_viaje: anyoen recall the solidcoin btw ? such fucking great early-usg retardation, it was phenomenal. the empire of idiots is really following in some glorious footsteps with their genius "ideas".
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942059 << wasn't early. "solidcoin" lulz was early, this dude was with the "ehtereum"/mit labs crew.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:32:39 lobbes: I bought my first coin for ~$20 back in 2013 or abouts, then hung onto it for dear life. Almost lost it in a tardstalk scam, but luckily read hanbot's ancient writings; found this place in time
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942049 << haha woot! well done. to think... that worked out better than "buying house" then!
mp_en_viaje: besides, why deny ourselves the benefit of diversity just because definitionally diversity not homogenuous ? it'd be folly writ large.
mp_en_viaje: yet this is how business, and for that matter adult life, goes. ALL the fucking time, i saw people much smarter than me, richer than me, taller, prettier, whatever you will, " driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women etc" because of this and naught else.
diana_coman: fwiw re moldavians, I intend to keep the logger there; they *did* shoot themselves in the foot and so I won't add to that what I planned, but I won't move it away either.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, how does it feel btw, to watch guys supposedly so far ahead in the race it brings tears to a man's eyes, nevertheless stumble over such "nothings" ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:27:22 lobbes: I may look into getting another box from them myself; gonna need another home for blog / auctionbot and would rather not hang everything on my usg hoster
diana_coman: it would be the keks of time if now the singaporean very-tightly-process-no-idea-outside guys actually manage to pass the hurdle and accept payment via deedbot