mircea_popescu: if the scam holds.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hue, buying paper that can be sold to other chumps
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes buying real estate in the reich without an army ?
lobbes: Still, theoretically nothing stopping me from one day heading to e.g. BingoBoingostan and leaving house sitting there
lobbes just recently 'bought' 'own' house. Mainly for the lower (and fixed!) monthly expense (i.e. monthly mortgage payment ended cheaper than my previous rent, and will never increase (rents here always tend to go up)). Plus waaay more space than previous rented space
ben_vulpes: sitting in the scales on the other side is "but mom i don't need another boat anchor holding me stateside"
ben_vulpes: i was planning to live here for another three years so i might just get the place so's i can avoid having to go through the hell of another rental search. also it's a rather spiffy haus
ben_vulpes: so my landlord comes over the other day, nominally to talk about installing the fence that was a condition of my renting the place, "hey i might liquidate this place within the year, do you want it? i'll credit rent paid so far to the down payment"
mircea_popescu: gambling AND slavery ? oh the pantsuit are gonna love ya
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me actually, this is a very... classical model of tribal organization, huh. there's a boy's hut in the village where people work magic an' teh young girls "hi, i came to show you my tits".
mod6: ave1: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/i9ctn/?raw=true << here are those commands, let me know if you want me to run others.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 14:32 mircea_popescu: let's use the pieces on the table : you just were 10x more effective than historical record because "being able to yell at them via voice chat when they're being retarded". i'm, literally, a further degree of magnitude more effectual, and literally because whipping if retarded. which makes me not have the "girl problems" ~everyone else has.
BingoBoingo: And the levering toilets comment is related to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1790892 where he's got the willingness to plumber around
mircea_popescu: (dezlinata = ro, literally "unwoolened", intensively something of the uneven consistency of clouds, or scattered about wool.)
mircea_popescu: i think this is kinda why the discussion's been so... dezlinata. people who ran into it vs people who mostly made their own disciplined trees and therefore hadn't.
spyked has read it, but tbh, it took this particular example to finally understand the issue
mircea_popescu: spyked yes ; there's ongoing discussion re this.
spyked: the way I understood it from reading v.pl, the edges in teh graph are established based on changes introduced by each hunk in the nodes (the patches). so since there are no patches changing the files in vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch, it's a leaf (and this, if I understand correctly, is intrinsic to the current design of v).
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 21:08 spyked: my v-fu really leaves to be desired. so: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790147 <-- patch: http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/v/patches/vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch and seal: http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/v/seals/vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch.spyked.sig --> so I based those on vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc (parent of vdiff_keccak in http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools ) and while the patch verifies, it doesn't show up in my
spyked: mircea_popescu, taking the graph in http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools <-- the patch at http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790176 is a descendant of vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc, but since it has no direct relation to, say vdiff_keccak (there are no changes from the former to the latter), it will lie on a separate branch starting from vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc. at least that's what the output from
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 08:39 spyked: in less titillating news: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790190 <-- just did --> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ewwIL/?raw=true the flow looks okay now; problem is that my patch is a separate leaf, so I can't press it and say, vtools-vpatch, in the same path. one (not very clean) palliative would be to manually verify and apply the patch after pressing.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 08:15 ave1: For musl the initialization / finalization part is minimal and easy to read, for gnu lib C it is not and part of it used code from the dynamic linking library.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321590 << so basically the way i'm interpreting what you're saying is, "there's no practical way to have no c library on a c system ; but if you want just the init and end that can be done quite minimalistically and forgetaboutit."
douchebag: Maybe if there wasn't any cock involved
mircea_popescu: the drawback however is that i ~absolutely~ can not be retarded. not even a little bit.
mircea_popescu: let's use the pieces on the table : you just were 10x more effective than historical record because "being able to yell at them via voice chat when they're being retarded". i'm, literally, a further degree of magnitude more effectual, and literally because whipping if retarded. which makes me not have the "girl problems" ~everyone else has.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 00:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're rank nonsense, "how to take a 95% productivity hit by everything taking longer and using a blocking channel"
mircea_popescu: but yes, i do believe you have the exact counter to my http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#320898 comment lel
mircea_popescu: from experience (over a few dozen cases to date or so) it takes the average girl about a degree of magnitude more time, effort and misfires than yours managed.
douchebag: All the druggies who use silkroad boast about gpg4win so it can't be too hard haha
douchebag: they were all windows users so I just had em use gpg4win or whatever to make the process as straightforward as possible. Couldn't imagine it being as easy telling them to use gpg CLI
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 07:44 douchebag: Yeah, I'm glad they could figure it out haha
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321550 << did they figure out or rather you just made keys for them yourself and just told them "say so and so" ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 07:53 mod6: douchebag: at the top of the howto document, it lists all of the pre-reqs you need before the build. did you ensure that you have them all?
shinohai: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321578 <<< To save you time and crayons, i grepped my logs for past 2 yrs. Out of 38 noobs for which I have logs, 31 of these did not ensure correct gcc + gpg version combo before build.
spyked: anyway, I suspect all systems relying on shared libraries are stuck using the system-provided ld, regardless of the gcc version. if anything, because of the insane gcc defaults (glibc, dynamic symbols etc.) on newer distro versions.
spyked: ^ wait, this doesn't make sense. ld shouldn't know about "static" and "inline", but it might make different assumptions about the linkage nevertheless. I tested using ld 2.30 (debian) and ld 2.28 (gentoo) and got the same link errors.
spyked: phf's ld might add an "static" to "inline"; or not, not sure; can verify by objdump'ing vdiff and seeing if there appear multiple (with local linkage) definitions of xnmalloc in the same file.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790159 <-- I checked on my system using ave1's instructions and it indeed uses adacore's gcc. however: gcc uses its collect2 utility for linking (for some link-time optimization stuff -- check using gcc -v source.c), which in turn uses the *system* ld, i.e. /usr/bin/ld. that's why there's a difference in the link-time behaviour
spyked: anyway, I understand why this happens (it wouldn't make sense to press e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc and http://btcbase.org/patches/vtools-vpatch in the same path), but thought I'd report it.
spyked: in less titillating news: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790190 <-- just did --> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ewwIL/?raw=true the flow looks okay now; problem is that my patch is a separate leaf, so I can't press it and say, vtools-vpatch, in the same path. one (not very clean) palliative would be to manually verify and apply the patch after pressing.
ave1: I was looking into a process of getting GNU C to produce small static binaries, but put it on the back burner after reading through the code.
ave1: For musl the initialization / finalization part is minimal and easy to read, for gnu lib C it is not and part of it used code from the dynamic linking library.
ave1: The parts you need on from the C library on linux are the initialization (move the commandline arguments and environment variables from locations prepared by the linux kernel to those needed in C) the functions called in your code and the finalization.
ave1: Note that if you use the musl c library, you will only get the parts from the C library you actually use in your binary. (this is not true for gnu C library)
ave1: And even more, you can let gprconfig make a config file (run it without any arguments) and gprbuild will then use the selected compilers.
ave1: Also see how the selection goes do: gprconfig --show-targets -v
ave1: re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790159, grpbuild has a system to look for all ada's and gcc in the path and select one. To check te selected gcc you can do "gprbuild -v".
mod6: douchebag: at the top of the howto document, it lists all of the pre-reqs you need before the build. did you ensure that you have them all?
lobbesbot: ave1: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:18 mircea_popescu: this is pretty terrible altogether. ave1 you got a moment ? how close is alf's "quite close" ?
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:18 mircea_popescu: this is pretty terrible altogether. ave1 you got a moment ? how close is alf's "quite close" ?
douchebag: that's the error it threw
douchebag: i get to the very last step
mod6: (the ONLINE build does this for you)
mod6: ah, well, you should just be able to drop them into the right directory. are you doing the OFFLINE build?
douchebag: gotta install the deps
emily22: It's late, so I'm getting off. Enjoy the tits <3
douchebag: This made me the most popular person in the discord server - women messaging telling me they want to show their tits haha
douchebag: Yeah, I'm glad they could figure it out haha
mod6: Also, these girls, I'd speculate have been able to register and do the task way above par. Good job guiding them through.
mod6: douchebag: you're keeping your volume down, bringing the girls. good work!
mircea_popescu thinks a certain someone will have an aneurism when they see this wonder.
Amygirl: Is the picture alright ?
mircea_popescu shudders at the thought of what'll happen when mod6 wakes up!!
mircea_popescu: lol. sure. you posted them online before Amygirl ?
mircea_popescu: there you go.
mircea_popescu: wait 2 minutes, then do it!
mircea_popescu: douchebag did you see the eagle ?
douchebag: reached in and pulled the fucker out
douchebag: put a stick down in the mud and it made a hollow noise
mircea_popescu: it's how civilised people do their online things.
mircea_popescu: i didn't take them home or anything.
mircea_popescu: eh, these belong free.
Tea_: I wish someone would buy me a turtle, they are so cute
mircea_popescu: i ? i'm you know, a lord of the most serene republic.
mircea_popescu: how would you feel about taking a vacation to costa rica one of these days ?
Tea_: okay, give me another minute
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, no good. get one that's not taken with a potato, and preferably with the light behind the camera not behind you
mircea_popescu: check it out lol, polsci chick, wants to get to the bottom of things.
mircea_popescu: most of them, i think. i left some out, mebbe, nfi.
emily22: is that all the girls who did it on your site?
mircea_popescu: of course, there's also http://trilema.com/2013/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao/ ; that was 2013.
Tea_: i'm trying to make the pic look good
mircea_popescu: the day of virgins. anyway, sure, write b933e5f5
douchebag: ooh looks like we got another
mircea_popescu: incidentally BingoBoingo ben_vulpes asciilifeform : any of you read the output of uruguay's most famous (slash only) intellectual, the supposed comte de lautremont ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, something like that, but more in the vein of midnight on mars, if you know him
mircea_popescu: i'm toying with the idea of sponsoring a comic. you ever seen oglaf ?
mircea_popescu: me either. sucks ;/
mircea_popescu: in other news, here's a novel idea for slavegirl torture : have her hit the gym really hard, then once her muscles are nice and sore and she can't defend herself... give her a nice massage or something. i sweat this thing squeezing a thigh while suckling a tit felt outright japanese.
emily22: it isn't showing in the balance :P
emily22: Yeah, they have political science almost everywhere...
mircea_popescu: they have political science in like... wisconsin ?!
mircea_popescu: emily22 so what do you do, other than writing on your tits ?
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !Qlater tell la you can voice yourself by the way, just say !!up to deedbot in a pm then !!v its string.
douchebag: What would the fee for that be?
trinque: emily22: the bot you registered with controls voice. douchebag will tell ya
ben_vulpes: best place in the world to spend your twenties if you're into scooping bits of your own brain out
trinque ftr developed through the american libertarian thing in his say 18-20 or so.
trinque: stick around then. thing's right wing as hell.
trinque: you never know these days
trinque: will you still have tits in the morning?
emily22: when is mircea_popescu going to come in? He's the one asking right?
douchebag: We use a custom ircd to handle the messages and such
ben_vulpes: emily22: maybe tell 'em about this thing called the wot and voice model, where someone has to vouch for you before you can waste everyone's time
ben_vulpes: probably also, guys eh? "the shy gender"
douchebag: They stopped that after discord started banning right wing servers
trinque: emily22: also from the discord, or?
trinque: douchebag: y'know, once you bring two women by the forum topless I dunno that you get to keep the pantsuit "autism" hat anymore.
trinque: gonna have to wait for mircea_popescu for the tits bounty
trinque: ranks among the best intros eh?
douchebag: No, we're in a political discord server together
trinque: hey I'm not the one studying computing informatits or w/e
trinque: I take that and fiddle with an airgapped machine, which produces another qr code, your txn.
douchebag: la: in the morning
trinque: I don't want the airgap box zapped.
trinque: la: douchebag: I'm gonna run these withdrawals in the morning, big line of storms coming through.
mircea_popescu: teh republic is looking for more women to put teh tech into all the time anyway.
mircea_popescu: ok, but i was more asking in the sense of what field.
mircea_popescu: so what do you do, other than writing on your tits ?
la: there
mircea_popescu: irresistence of the medium!
mircea_popescu: she has a point, girly self-paints are harder than they seem
mircea_popescu: let teh other girls guide you.
douchebag: la I told you on the tits
la: it is on there
mircea_popescu: write it ON the tits, silly.
mircea_popescu: eh, mkay what the hell. here : 2f9d4475
mircea_popescu: "Has previously posted nudie selfshots on the web. You will be required to prove this by supplying a link." << that part. in http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/#selection-37.0-37.105
douchebag: you paste the url
deedbot: Provide a paste URL to the ascii-armored GPG public key or the full 40 character key fingerprint without spaces or dashes.
douchebag: la is the female
mircea_popescu: not cool with it. the whole point is for girls to take this opportunity and fix their heads.
douchebag: If you're cool with that let me know, otherwise I suppose I'll try talking her into it
douchebag: Yeah I have a friend who was living in southern mexico for awhile, he said he loved it and he was living in a penthouse for dirt cheap
mircea_popescu: southern mexico also.
mircea_popescu: sure. egypt is pretty cool, but not really for the beginner.
douchebag: Me neither, I tried looking it up but didn't really find anything. I could have misunderstood
douchebag: Not too sure what the deal is with that
douchebag: Oh yeah she was in Vienna when she was there, she mentioned that people aren't allowed to live in cities besides vienna without permission or something along those lines
mircea_popescu: also friedrick's follies in bavaria, not very far. and in general... the only lacking element is time.
douchebag: Anything in particular you'd reccomend checking out there?
douchebag: Anyone ever visit Austria? She said she had a great time when she visited there
douchebag: Yeah I think that's pretty amazing how there still churches and castles standing that are close to a thousand years old
mircea_popescu: yeah, plenty still standing. definitely worth the time.
douchebag: I'm looking forward to seeing the castles and whatnot, she's visited Poland before and loved it
mircea_popescu: i expect. well, my other advice is don't take anywhere any girl who's not comfortable naked in public, but i dun wanna mix in others' affairs, so.
douchebag: Any advice you'd give to someone who's travelling for the first time? The farthest I have ever travelled was from IL to TN
douchebag: Yeah I think we're going to have a great time. I was immediately on board when I found out how cheap flights are over there
mircea_popescu: i dunno, go to belgrade see the kalemegdan. belgrade can keep one occupied for months, it's a nice town.
mircea_popescu: so then most of eastern europe works for you, it's cheaper and it's generally got more history than the west. except for carcasonne or something.
douchebag: I'll only be bringing my laptop, my clothes, hygeine supplies, and paperwork
mircea_popescu: if you're looking for pussy, budapest and the czech republic. maybe latvia. if you're looking for skiing, the german alps. if you're looking ... on it goes neh.
mircea_popescu: yes, you !!v the string it gave you
douchebag: to prove I decrypted the otp
douchebag: trinque: So I decrypted the OTP - Do I have to send a command afterwards?
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Will I be alerted when the funds are transferred
mircea_popescu: there's a dozen example. chick shows up, gets her link, it's a process.
douchebag: I could definitely find women to do it, but I guess what I'm asking is could I just send the photo here? Do you want them to come in here and chat, what's the deal?
asciilifeform: 'The lights must never go out, / The music must always play, / Lest we should see where we are, / Lost in a haunted wood, / Children afraid of the night / Who have never been happy or good.' (tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: at least, that's the heuristic i'd use.
mircea_popescu: douchebag click the links in the article, plenty of irc examples ; but may i suggest if you do find them you take THEM to europe instead ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's the closest thing to an explanatory hypothesis i've ever heard for this
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Suppose I find some females who would be willing to write the code on her tits
asciilifeform: phunphakt : 1) ~all gringostan office hellholes have gensets. but: 2) completely pointless, they are installed by usg decree and only connect to... the lift (horrors!11, someone could be stuck in a lift for an hour)
asciilifeform: hey at least it aint the afghani indoor cooking fires on nth floor flat described by naggum...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and i've been invited to gringo retiree grand party with asado on balcony. dork actually had stuffed a grill thing in there.
mircea_popescu: (of course -- those should have their own, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, orcistan still has problem with bridges staying up, what sane condo development)
trinque: probably will purchase when I head for the woods; for now living in a downtown beehive
asciilifeform: ( does not even need to be a stationary, grand edifice, mine is the size of a typical fulltower comp and serves an entire room )
mircea_popescu: trinque i will swear to you, getting a regulator + generator is utterly worth it if your property is worth > 100k. they're not expensive, and the list of emergencies / situations in which they are useful is lengthy.
asciilifeform: i was convinced that mircea_popescu was picking at the tcp socket handoff !11 lol!!
mircea_popescu: kinda why anyone that's any good at anything to do with the written word will WRITE rather than speak ; and why oral culture is such an africanism, and so on.
mircea_popescu: speech is blocking, that's the fucking problem, i can't write while you're talking.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was discussing the "live chat"
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 01:07 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're rank nonsense, "how to take a 95% productivity hit by everything taking longer and using a blocking channel"
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 01:50 mircea_popescu: mmm da fuck is this then
douchebag: But yeah, me and the woman are going to be travelling Europe in two months so I'm willing to do whatever extra work I can to earn some cash for our trip
mircea_popescu: you could be flying to uruguay if these curmudgeons trusted you enough to touch their priceless gear and so on.
mircea_popescu: once we get this design document together there'll also be the task to build a client for eulora, and in general, stuff pops up all the time.
douchebag: building trb right now, I'm on the very last step
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 00:13 trinque: great. I'd like you to review the dependencies of trb (which were frozen at particular versions) for known public exploits, and to publish a report of this on your own mpwp blog.
douchebag: Is there anything else I could do in exchange for BTC?
phf: well, deedbot is talking in private and the command is correct, so douchebag probably needs rep for this to work.
mircea_popescu: trinque does he need rep in order for me to be able to pay him or is deedbot mothballed because of the failed down or am i butterfingering the format again or wut.
mircea_popescu: mmm da fuck is this then
mircea_popescu: there, have a cent buy a hooker.
douchebagg: there
douchebag: sure, can you devoice me and then revoice me
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're rank nonsense, "how to take a 95% productivity hit by everything taking longer and using a blocking channel"
douchebag: I've been having a lot of fun with XML parsers lately, last night I reported a vulnerability to a mail provider. They didn't allow use of SYSTEM or DTD's however since Entities were being processed I could have knocked the whole service offline using a billion laughs attack
douchebag: trinque: One thing I was wondering though in regards to deedbot, the RSS feed which library are you using for XML parsing?
trinque: great. I'd like you to review the dependencies of trb (which were frozen at particular versions) for known public exploits, and to publish a report of this on your own mpwp blog.
douchebag: Now, I'm not going to completely abadon the web app related stuff - mainly because that's my primary source of income at the moment. However, I am open to trying new things to improve myself.
trinque: as things stand, the thing's quite stateless, which is nice.
trinque: hm yeah, I could chase all that, but then some human operator will see it happen and take care of it.
douchebag: so that when the 30 minute timer is up it downs a non existent nick
douchebag: The only thing I managed to find w/ it is getting permavoiced
asciilifeform: tip of the log, ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: perhaps give the good readers a place at which to start?
asciilifeform utterly fails to grasp the appeal of 'voice chats', esp. as commonly implemented ( i.e. on closed shitware )
spyked: so the idea is to keep either vtools_genesis -> vtools_vdiff_sha -> vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc or vtools_genesis -> vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc -> ... patches, but not both at the same time. because in this case v.pl will see that my patch has two antecedents and will reject it.
spyked: hm. I understand the specific problem with my vpatch set now. I'll reread the whole discussion to make sure I've wrapped my head around this.
mod6: This is not ok. And is rejected. I simply removed the two vpatches that are not required for the latter path (see the paste above where i simply pressed 'vtools_2', the second press-path) then your vpatch is included to the flow no problem.
mod6: so here's the deal, your vpatch & sig do verify by hand, so that part is fine. the problem lies in the fact with all of phf's vpatches in your 'patches' directory, your vpatch tries to come from two separate antecedents.
trinque: my thinking on the thing is that it's as simple as each patch introducing a new line in HISTORY that matches the patch's name.
trinque: sure, antecedents are per-file, so if you want to have one line of history, gotta have a file that is the line.
spyked: thanks mod6. I wonder if it's one of those cases that spawned the discussion which led to the idea of a manifest file. in any case, it looks like the patch above (vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc) can have multiple children.
spyked: (also, I had to redo the patch anyway, since I initially used the keccak vdiff; but I'm pretty sure this should be a child of vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc, since the hashes for vtools/lib/xalloc.h match)
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:37 phf: mod6: pressing to different tails should produce alternative builds without any conflicts. but the issue has been discovered, and it requires a patch. spyked originally found both the problem and the solution
spyked: my v-fu really leaves to be desired. so: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790147 <-- patch: http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/v/patches/vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch and seal: http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/v/seals/vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch.spyked.sig --> so I based those on vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc (parent of vdiff_keccak in http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools ) and while the patch verifies, it doesn't show up in my
mod6: well, read some docs, make a key, register it. then up yourself. 1 BTC is a hefty prize!
mod6: wow, can i get the same deal dpb?
xanthyos: mircea_popescu: dpb just said he'd give me free btc if i had enough presence in the wot to be able to !up myself
mod6: which is the only version i've been able to stand up that seems to work 100% with ffa.
mod6: for what its worth, at the bottom of my paste, i've denoted that im using gcc 4.9.4 and adacore 16
phf: maintaining two separate builds in the same patch tree is sort of experimental, and i'm happy that it seems to work out of the box
mod6: (the new rules in my V99993 do not allow for pressing to multiple leaves, so just was curious to what the blessed press path (required vpatches) was to get these)
phf: mod6: pressing to different tails should produce alternative builds without any conflicts. but the issue has been discovered, and it requires a patch. spyked originally found both the problem and the solution
mod6: But what I ended up doing is pressing to leaf 'vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc.vpatch' into 'vtools', and pressing to leaf 'vtools-vpatch.vpatch' into 'vtools_2'. I went into vtools_2, and found the similar problems as hanbot.
mod6: So there are a few things that I probably should ask about, as it wasn't wholly clear to me about the pressing side of things. Since there are multiple roots, and multiple leaves, there are two different press paths. Now, maybe I'm not supposed to have all of these in there?? But it looked to me from the thread at phf's site, that I needed to have them all.
asciilifeform: but yes on linux the only 2 ways to get moar memory than the loader loaded you with, is sbrk and mmap
phf: i think brk/sbrk is a reasonable alternative to malloc, since it makes a claim on a certain amount of processes's address space, without allocator's bookkeeping, that you then can use for heterogenous purposes. it's a dynamic alternative to having something like a static int heap[HEAP_SIZE] in your code.
phf: yeah, that warning made me patch and recompile libc 10 years ago, might've been one of the first excursions into pre-tmsr rage holes
mircea_popescu: then doods walk in here with "oh, rms gotta be respekted for his contribution"
mircea_popescu: myeah. but taki8ng out libc ALTOGETHER seems very appealing right now
phf: in this case the issue is the "legacy" diff code, removing autotools scaffolding means having to track down these kind of portability issues, that appear exclusively around "optimized" code. ada core is its own, separate can of worms
mircea_popescu: this is pretty terrible altogether. ave1 you got a moment ? how close is alf's "quite close" ?