a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 15:51 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806496 << first world "men" don't understand the concept of hygiene, i suspect that as the infrastructure starts failing this would be the number one reason of rapid decay. hygiene not just in a sense of "washing hands", but the idea that there's certain procedures that you have to follow in order to not get fucked over by the environment
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806501 << this is very muych so ; even entriely banal procedures that built and butressed cont9inued human occupation of their sad patches of soil, like say putting up preserves for the winter, are far outside their mental scope. unlike whatever irrelevant pantsuit fashions, which never did jack measurable anything, but which are all they fucking talk about.
mircea_popescu: sadly the discoveries are unactionable and incommunicable.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the well of knowledge, pushing the infinite boundaries of darkness towards their core that spawned them, i give you... WOMAN! https://78.media.tumblr.com/dfa482d3716c7dd79d85a2ccf8dcff60/tumblr_nraxucVa9S1ribksno9_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: (gift to the sublime porte)
asciilifeform: reminds me, of how asciilifeform once time thought that the common surname 'subrahmanian' refers to something like a lieutenant-brahmin
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i expect submasalah is the hottentottenmutter stottertrottel version of sub[missive]-massah-allah.
asciilifeform also curious re why the port required 300kB of patch, incl to .adb/.ads of gnat, but possibly this will be answered later
asciilifeform: ( of the compiler that you produced, that is, when it builds e.g. ffa )
asciilifeform: ave1: out of curiosity, didja look at the output ? what bitness is it ?
asciilifeform: ave1: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cSP4C/?raw=true << is what i see. doesn't answer the riddle
ave1: look at build-ada.sh (I did not update the documents etc)
asciilifeform: btw ave1 the only WITH_ARCH i see in your text is 'armv7'. so how does it work on aarch64 ?
ave1: btw successful build of the whole thing takes about 3 hours on my machine
ave1: The only system I was unsuccessful so far was a machine without static libraries
ave1: the final compilers are not depended on that part
ave1: Aha, I should have cleared that one, it will be overridden by the build-ada.sh script
ave1: Sorry, for the confusion
ave1: the scripts build statically compiles gcc/gnatmake compilers
ave1: I made a mistake on the earlier assertion, it works on glibc machines
ave1: o sorry, no not musltronic, the adacore one will work fine
ave1: it's part of the cross compiler (under aarch64-linux-musl/aarch64-linux-musl/lib directory). The compilers assume it will live under /lib/ld.so, so that part won't work on glibc machines
ave1: So static code works out of the box, but dynamic not so
ave1: BTW although it does build code based on shared libraries, this code needs the musl "ld.so" to live at a specific place, so that does not work.
ave1: It's an artifact of the original script, you get a 'cross' compiler that creates code for the same machin
asciilifeform: what happens if you build 'cross' but with 'x86-64' as the target ?
asciilifeform: right, but ave1 did you actually get the complete equivalent-to-binary-kit-from-adacore-complete-with-gprbuild-etc made ?
asciilifeform: i'll point out, this is not equivalent to 'build ffa', the gpr file is part of ffa, and contains essential functionality ( mainly , incorporates the restriction flags, mandates staticity )
ave1: asciilifeform, that work has been done, it builds a native compiler with gcc/g++ and gnatmake but not with gprbuild yet (this last one can be build on the target machine). I can build the FFA code on an aarch64 machine with the resulting compiler.
a111: Logged on 2015-02-18 04:31 asciilifeform: the only thing that seems certain imho is that starting from existing concept of ic fab is a dead end
asciilifeform: ave1: i.e. is the tarball 'ready for primetime' ? ... or requires toothpicks, glue, and a month of ???
asciilifeform: ave1: plox elaborate re the 'after some more work' item ?
asciilifeform: ( for the sake of thread-completeness, what would the ~alternative~ to this story look like? i suggest -- it'd be a process which does to ic fab what 'polaroid' process did to colour photography. find way of etching the circuit from prefab 'sandwich' without caustic baths, sputtering, etc... )
asciilifeform: picture, with access to e.g. boeing's , junkyard, a similar d00d could build something like the nazi 1-seat jet, with own hands also. but to describe it as 'garage-buildable jet' is rather chumpatronic spin imho.
asciilifeform: i.e. not the typical meaning of 'garage', and not replicable by anybody without either couple-deca-$mil or 25 yrs of access to just-so junkyards
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806449 << this appears to be honest work, but if you look at what he actually did, and with what resources, the 'imponade' evaporates away -- he made a coupla-transistor ic , and with 'garage' filled with a princely collection of surplus industrial gear ( electron microscope, sputtering chamber, ~very~ high end optical microscopes, incl. the one he junkyard-wars'd into a lithography box ) ,
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
BigTexasBingo: The Irish religious applications of insect repellent lead me to believe they are reinfesting the place with cinches
BigTexasBingo: We don't have threatening mosquitoes here. There is a bit of Dengue in the North of Uruaguay, but in the city it isn't a thing
phf: but at the same time i suspect that the hostel in question doesn't for example have mosquito nets on bed frames, so it's possible that nigger runs deep in this particular case.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 15:12 BingoBoingo: And the FUCKING POTATO NIGGERS INSIST on closing the windows and blinds to the room as they remain passed out until 16:00 hrs.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806496 << first world "men" don't understand the concept of hygiene, i suspect that as the infrastructure starts failing this would be the number one reason of rapid decay. hygiene not just in a sense of "washing hands", but the idea that there's certain procedures that you have to follow in order to not get fucked over by the environment
BingoBoingo: And in other turds >> https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20180429101731 "-fretpoline for non-RAMDISK kernels. Skylake product needs it, and therefore all other x86 cpus must pay the performance price of the hazard workaround until Skylake disappears from the ecosystem eventually like 486. This returns your cpu's performance to pre-inflated performance."
BingoBoingo: And so because these fuckers are afraid of mosquitos coming in an even slightly open window while likely reintroducing chinches de cama, everything must mildew. Thus is the determination of the Irish hivemind
BingoBoingo: By the time the fuckers leave there is a disturbingly high chance everything that isn't already mildewed will be.
BingoBoingo: And the FUCKING POTATO NIGGERS INSIST on closing the windows and blinds to the room as they remain passed out until 16:00 hrs.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806395 << If anyone wants to read / check sigs, these have not been through the mangler. Should be ok.
mod6: jurov: Ah, alright, thanks for checking. It's weird because I did check the clearsigned file before sending, verified fine. Mail Client / ML must have magled it.
jurov: Really curious which misfeature caused the breakage this time.
jurov: And attach it as first attachment. Then in case of problems check it against contents in your "sent mail" to rule out mutilation by your email client.
jurov: mod6: the clearsigned text has bad signature
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-04-30 06:58:50: <mircea_popescu> well, if pinochle fellow gets around to modeling it properly, we might even find out what they're worth!
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-04-30 06:58:50: <mircea_popescu> well, if pinochle fellow gets around to modeling it properly, we might even find out what they're worth!
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-04-30 06:58:50: <mircea_popescu> well, if pinochle fellow gets around to modeling it properly, we might even find out what they're worth!
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-04-30 06:58:50: <mircea_popescu> well, if pinochle fellow gets around to modeling it properly, we might even find out what they're worth!
mircea_popescu: anyone recall the sex.com lulz ?
mircea_popescu: was just checking out the help lol.
ben_vulpes: that invoice takes you through the end of april 2019
lobbes: later-tell reminded me to pose this q to the court: Should later-tells go to pm or stay in-channel?
trinque: ^ if it's skipping forward faster than 6 at a time, it's not going to barf them all up.
trinque: lets people decide not to use the part that's grafted to postgres
mircea_popescu: ah so there's actually just two and yeah i see, nm.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if lobbes wants to run ircbot separately, without the logbot functionality, he could if he liked, and without taking a dependency on the logbot stuffs. 'tis why they're separate trees.
ben_vulpes: your listening process just needs to 'listen log_new_message' and then use whatever the wait-for-message abstraction is in the programming language for your responding service to wait for the primary key to come in, read that line out of the table and then either insert a response into outbox with the appropriate target or not as it chooses
mircea_popescu: you know you've run this thing in a pretty confusing manner! there's like... 3 roots people don't know which to pick ?
ben_vulpes: logbot does everything that ircbot does and in addition writes everything it sees to the log table
ben_vulpes: newp, just the latter
lobbes: ah, okay, perhaps I'm doing this wrong. I assumed that I needed both the ircbot and logbot to be running and connected to irc concurrently
ben_vulpes: why use ircbot instead of the logbot?
lobbes: okay, so I should be able to run the logbot-with-multiple-channels-corrected portion as long as I run the ircbot portion as the original?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 18:26 asciilifeform: you changed 'channel' slot in ircbot class to 'channels', but never bothered to change the corresponding line in make-ircbot !! ben_vulpes )
lobbes: anyone out there with a running instance of logbot-multiple-channels-corrected (ben_vulpes, danielpbarron)? I've run into the same issue alf was having >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758074
mircea_popescu: there's a humongous swath of republican land just waiting for a plow shaped exactly like a trader's who studied probability in school and spends his days building predictive models.
mircea_popescu: you ever read say http://trilema.com/2015/whoever-said-resource-allocation-is-a-solved-problem-deserves-a-kick-in-the-nads/ ?
pinochle: there is not a word I disagree with ; so I have errored in that way, but the path forward is clear
mircea_popescu: which is also why anonimity is the pantsuit-mandated mode of behaviour for intelligent zeks online.
mircea_popescu: "here's a black box", howsoever implemented in practice, "really lengthy patch you don't have the time to read" or "my poker bot" or whatever, is not-this.
mircea_popescu: but the key to survival is working with others ; and the key to the others being others rather than just shitty clones of yourself is for them to be independently intelligent ; and then in turn the key to working with independently intelligent folk is... making it possible for them to work with you!
a111: Logged on 2018-04-29 14:58 mircea_popescu: yes, it was. to summarize, careful what you do with your patches, in the following sense : if diana_coman doesn't CONTINUE your patch, it will have to be reground later. as she's a human being with other problems and interests than folding in your alt universe, it helps IMMENSELY if you make your patches small and readable.
mircea_popescu: pinochle, ok, do you ever read the logs ?
jhvh1: mod6: The operation succeeded.
mod6: !~later tell jurov Please check the ML pipes, I think I got one stuck.
pinochle: in the past I worked as a trader ; studied probability in school ; current work is building predictive models, often an exercise in futility
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 16:38 ben_vulpes: pinochle: reg a key and build a name now, lest you build the thing and nobody uses it because who is this person
pinochle: I've completed an implementation of http://trilema.com/2018/trilema-poker-bot-spec/ ; In an effort to not barf all over the logs, I have it up and running in a separate channel for demonstration. Any lord interested in playing some hands can join #polkaroom
asciilifeform: if only even the wanks had any variety. but nope, always ~same
mircea_popescu: ie, couldn't care less what the wankers wank.
mircea_popescu: some people enjoy it (called "entomological interest", here). i'm rather of the opposite persuasion, as detailed in http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/
zx2c4: ahh you saw this then
zx2c4: enjoyable to read conspiracy theorizing from well qualified academics
zx2c4: re:your ECC skepticism and RSA-love -- a while back the NSA changed the Suite B recommendations to partially remove ECC for new crypto systems and also removed P256 IIRC. There was a great paper analyzing what the possible motivations could be, i think called 'an enigma inside a riddle' or something goofy like that. Let me find it...
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: by the way ive wanted to dig this up for you the last two weeks and keep forgetting
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the hunt, https://78.media.tumblr.com/e5283747bbee343037934ea4a76dd258/tumblr_n8hdf5XwZZ1qj6d3fo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: in other quasi-noose, heathen node walker ( https://archive.li/FHKym today's snapshot ) reports 11 advertised trb nodez, with 9 of'em at tip-top of currentchain . iirc of the 9, 2 are actually 1 BingoBoingo box. still seems like 'aggression' worx pretty well.
mircea_popescu: everything in the zone gotta be a dorm.
asciilifeform: ( lulzily/apropos , asciilifeform was last night in u.of.md. library, and there was poster ~proudly~ advertising their ongoing 'transformation from storage space for books into activity space for students' -- approx exact words )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 16:11 asciilifeform: kurchatov, supposedly, sat and thought, and few minutes later answered, 'perhaps from philosophical pov this'd be consistent. but then we will have to forget about obtaining the bomb.'
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the pantsuit notion of "girl" is relevant in this world, or attaches to my chattels, exactly in the sense and to the degree cate blanchett is relevant to elizabeth the 1st.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like how soviet library would offer you "lenin's writings on tensors" if you were looking for anything done by imperialist-burgeois authors in the field.
mircea_popescu: "heart opening" fucking yoga jesus f christ. essentially the future function of google will be as pantsuit-rappropiation-engine, "here's spurious associations of our irrelevant crap to actually interesting things you may understandably be interested about".
mircea_popescu: and in further ai lulz, https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZisI2p_1xUR_19DlHwJnT0L_1Jcz3NLVMmQtJ3lUFkMeRIXF3BzZK-KmjBXXjqw9oxlUP7etH2IhGTaQtS-AodWDbe4itMmHc6wRfikU3LJTW5sVQ0wk-lpnU7-Wx_1PD0JcnbQHooBzm6ANzy4AY_1JU6VqnUq02l8y3or5oBZforK340aqIZlqsyA-rxmsxWrpJv4qWD34BoZYWirTzhpj_15k9qSQm1HqCxIk8GfgEYPsU3FMG0uQHcc3H-A4iGjDa_1K3uBF4tj7oTixZFoa3IlJBWNjxhU5KK4IQhmb1voc--YI1JJFGNxc-Kl4_1TQJlqcCkapnP11KseH91QVl9saKKswa1Tvjg&btnG
mircea_popescu: and in other "holy shit these people", flour bag comes with apple pie recipe. which is just as well cuz gals just baked one. the flour bag recipe calls for... 3-4 apples, HALF A POUNT OF BUTTER and two.5 cups flour.
mircea_popescu: seems the likely arrangement.
BingoBoingo: Their answer to that point is that "the company" cares. They aren't very clear on that leading me to suspect they are human trafficking chattel brought in on a sort of year long vacation package which gives them an allowance while "the company" milks the money from the "teaching" on at least a couple sides.
BingoBoingo: Turns out the answer is a bunch of Irish potato nigger "English Teachers" doing a visa run from Argentina.
BingoBoingo: In other news the hostel this weekend is full. The staff helpfully let me know in advance so I could prepare. Given it is Autumn and the weather this weekend is biased towards torrential downpours I wondered "Who would be vacationing here at a time like this?"
BingoBoingo: If only there were still a prediction market that could be used for evaluating the proposition "Schengen Exit Visas When?"
mircea_popescu: the whole "copyright" bs is very much equivalent to "los malvinas son argentinas", and other commercial claims they do not have.
mircea_popescu: us has succeded in its aspiration to be argentina. it exists as a pretend-country on the basis of foreign capital markets.
mircea_popescu: china via the fed credit.
ben_vulpes: i'm curious who's going to pay the 48MM
mircea_popescu: nobody is poor because they're fucking stupid and generally worthless ; they're poor because i'm mean or some dumb shit like that.
mircea_popescu: well, in their alt-universe poverty is also someone else's fault.
ben_vulpes: https://text.npr.org/s.php?sid=606716569 "A lack of a trauma center was a severe indication of the institutional racism that existed on the South Side" and clearly not an indicator of the penury of the locals
zx2c4: and then got super busy
mircea_popescu: especially. minigame is working on adding some fg code to eucrypt as it is, she'll prolly include your stuff if she can, so there you go. make it small, make it readable, start with one thing at a time and so on.
mircea_popescu: contrary to the counterfactual reality us shyster constructed, "copyrights" bs.
mircea_popescu: historically, it was the ~only incentive to publish
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, hard to pick the relevant transforms from the box, what can i say. if this weren't the case "computer security" would be more akin hygiene.
mircea_popescu: if instead you fall into the other mental pit of pantsuit, where you go off by self for lengthy interval and come back with an intricately complex crystal of perfect beauty, odds are it'll get ignored for lack of time to appreciate it.
mircea_popescu: yes, it was. to summarize, careful what you do with your patches, in the following sense : if diana_coman doesn't CONTINUE your patch, it will have to be reground later. as she's a human being with other problems and interests than folding in your alt universe, it helps IMMENSELY if you make your patches small and readable.
mircea_popescu: esthlos, did you see the recent discussion re polardbeard's sad failure to participate ?
asciilifeform: then i admit i'm a bit surprised
esthlos: aha, so if I want to patch "as close to genesis as possible" the mpi lib, AND I want this patch to be used in diana_coman 's proggy, the ONLY choice is to patch current leaf of diana_coman 's proggy
asciilifeform: naa they're each in own puptent
mircea_popescu: you are not alone, for a big tent's there with you, and all the dumb chicks nobody wants and and aaaaand.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, LARPthereum! from mit cgi labs!
mircea_popescu: don't be too harsh on self ; item is deliberately made in such a way that not-quite-coincidentally is SO VERY CONTRARY to "common wisdom", unwrapping all the corners into head takes a while.
mircea_popescu: esthlos, it's very centrally how the v mechanism is intended to / works : you get to opt which patch trees to continue, much like in the case of bitcoin.
esthlos: hmm, I did not realize that patching the genesis directly would have those effects on diana_coman 's work
mircea_popescu: the fact that colors alternate by2's which is not necessarily appropriate also adds to the confusion.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the column headers do not show in yer browser ?
mircea_popescu: and while "crud never existed" may be tempting from the hallucination-as-font-of-reality pantsuit perspective, it is nevertheless not actually the case.
diana_coman: esthlos, there is no such thing as "crud never existed" ; we are not re-writing history here wtf
diana_coman: basically if you change something on which existing patches depend then it breaks, yes; why not put it on existing fully-pressed tree though?
asciilifeform: wtf, why would you put it on genesis, rather than diana_coman's proggy
esthlos: if I make decrudification a patch on the genesis, probably requires no changes to eucrypt vpatch tree. but if it's a new genesis, tree breaks, no?
diana_coman: (we don't have anything else to use so use the pile of shit, yes)
esthlos: so let's say I remove the "secure" bits of MPI code for the sake of honesty. is this a needless complication of the eucrypt vpatch tree?
asciilifeform: ( they are sorted by # of mods that contain said factor, i.e. the middle column, the clickable one )
a111: Logged on 2018-04-28 19:17 mircea_popescu: you need better markup, as it is is confusing. is 3 or 4294967297 the factor shared by 2 or more moduli and which are htey.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-28#1806202 << how wouldja change the markup? i thought it was pretty clear, on http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factors page, that you click the modcount to get the page of that factor , with detail
asciilifeform: esthlos: it was gonna, then barfed and abandoned mpi 4evah
esthlos: asciilifeform diana_coman: are the secure memory portions of MPI useful/worth their weight?
diana_coman: that sounds good ave1, looking forward to reading the post on it, when ready
ave1: I found out that GNAT 2016 has some support for arm 64bit, but for android and ios and not for linux. So I had to do some small patching (I also looked at the 2017 version and I still could not find plain linux support in the adacore gnat)
ave1: When done + test that the cross compiled gcc actually works on an arm system I will publish.
ave1: Currently I'm building the final version (I hope, I was thinking the same thing a couple of days ago)
a111: Logged on 2018-04-28 16:50 asciilifeform: ^ ave1 has the closest thing to a turnkey process afaik. ( still requires finding a working gnat for ~some~ machine , somewhere, that already runs )
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/lord-mp-of-tmsr-and-the-plebeian-princess-club/ << Trilema - Lord MP of TMSR and the plebeian princess club.
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not sure what i was trying to say there. that's not the first time i cold emailed someone, and also not the last one. i'm just making sure s/n doesn't stay too high
asciilifeform: phf: if it wasnt clear -- problem is solved, i have the machine going
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805634 << i emailed chromeunboxed.com guy "Robby Payne" on recommendation "they will know", haven't heard anything back. actually first time i cold called an online "specialist", not going to try that again
mod6: Cool, trinque: thank's for the notice.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/tick-tock-still-dead-intel-remains-stalled-out-at-14-nm-node-process-another-year/ << Qntra - Tick Tock Still Dead Intel Remains Stalled Out At 14 nm Node Process Another Year
trinque: hey folks, deedbot wallet announcement. there'll be a planned outage starting at 3pm. I'm moving infrastructure over to a new location, with what I expect to be a more reliable fiber connection.
mircea_popescu: you need better markup, as it is is confusing. is 3 or 4294967297 the factor shared by 2 or more moduli and which are htey.
asciilifeform: ( see bottom of http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/stats and from there self-explanatory )
spyked: oh I see. but then does the 16+ alphanum shortening apply only to phuctor, or to all the feeds?
trinque: deedbot is also providing the reverse DNS and geolocation
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> incidentally, the move to uy has massively improved my personal server connection :D << Many cabling maps were consulted picking a landing spot after discovering Asia has no connectivity
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the move to uy has massively improved my personal server connection :D
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it doesn't have to screw with the machinewide gcc; can do as part of buildroot ( iirc buildroot even supports auto-building gnat the same way i built e.g. arm7 gcc with it; but requires a running gnat to be present on the machine where it is done )
diana_coman: at any rate it's not the sort of thing I'd try directly on a remote machine as it messes up with the local gcc so this will be fun
asciilifeform: ^ ave1 has the closest thing to a turnkey process afaik. ( still requires finding a working gnat for ~some~ machine , somewhere, that already runs )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: afaik not! ( aside from the amply discussed sad phakt that building it requires a working gnat bin to be found somewhere else )
mircea_popescu: in other crazy shits, inspect girl's workout agenda, encounter item "abduct. 4x 12 43kg" and shudder.
diana_coman: did anyone publish a compilation recipe for adacore's gnat on republican gentoo? searching the logs returned only various troubles and otherwise mod6's attempt as most recent from what I can tell: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685215
BingoBoingo: Holy fuckballs the "seasonally appropriate" rain has apparently arrived
asciilifeform: spyked: though iirc on rare occasions trinque's thing rang the bell twice for same one, on account of rss being an ill-conceived hack at birth
spyked: to anticipate a potential discussion on this: phuctor's feed is actually in "Atom" format, so it does have a unique "id" tag; maybe I should be using that as an identifier (and, respectively, the "guid" tag in RSS feeds) instead of the link.
spyked: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sXFVt/?raw=true <-- snapshot of phuctor rss where the above holds.
spyked: to reproduce this: search for e.g. 741F83D180F194CFCEBD19BAD698A5DCAE9DFFB03F14A1687DC41D44706846DD in http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/rss ; will discover that there are two <link>-s to the same key.
spyked: also asciilifeform ^ re same, is it normal behaviour for some links to be posted twice on rss? I guess it does that when it finds >1 factors for the same key? asking because my experimental rss uses post links as IDs, so it posts at most 1 factor for a key.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1806058 <-- hey trinque, is the deedbot rsstron parsing the input from phuctor's rss feed somehow? asking because large numbers appear abbreviated (e.g. 1471...9097) on irc, but not in the feed.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 15:41 mircea_popescu: the crime and the punishment are indistinguishable in all divine systems.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 15:41 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805922 << if you're going to "--clearsign" why not "-aer uid" for the same money ?
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805942 <-- http://thetarpit.org/uploads/2018/04/gpg-uiop.lisp and can be further extended.
spyked: you ain't seen nothing yet. just wait till I publish my other coads.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 15:36 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805903 << poor spyked keeps getting blindsided with this sorta item. how you holding up in there, yo
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805936 <-- lol, I was looking for it! but in all seriousness, I'm very happy to see thetarpit being read and generating comments.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 15:23 lobbes: Neato spyked. I'm sure I'll be putting your guide to practical use once it comes time to implement the self-voicing bit of the eventual tickerbot I'm building
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805932 <-- coincidentally, I also want to use it to implement self-voicing. although tbh, in the long term I'd love to see the unix world dependency go away.
asciilifeform: this kinda thing happily carries on right until the moment the plank drops and the noose tightens, at nuremberg
mircea_popescu: fly it in the face of all evidence all it will ; in the mental patients' inner world, "law enforcement" is as much a thing as any other structured delusion.
mircea_popescu: and through it all, perhaps the most amusing part, their wholly spurious pretense that ~everyone~ gives a shit ; fly it in the face of plain and ubiquitous evidence that a single soul that does can not be found for love or money.
asciilifeform: or prolly better known today in ru, from the mouth of vyshinsky, 'Признание - царица доказательств'
mircea_popescu: righ right. "the plea bargain".
asciilifeform: dun forget 'the signed confession' (not yet from him, supposedly, but there is always next day)
mircea_popescu: eh, they have this whole menagerie of "trutfully relevant and working sir!" patent medicines.
asciilifeform: been a while since i heard of anybody jailed for ~selling~ warez on physical disk tho. i was convinced these died with the '90s
a111: Logged on 2018-04-28 00:17 asciilifeform: https://archive.li/TzRKT << in noose lulz. ' “We don’t care, we think you’re a criminal, and I’m sorry but Microsoft wants your head on a platter and I’m going to give it to them.” Those are the words that the US attorney said to me in that meeting, face to face.'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-28#1806104 << criminal org slowly shedding the pretense.
mod6: Ugh! Hopefully you can get some extra rest this weekend then.
asciilifeform: douchebag: historically i've found that setting up a gentoo box to 'workstation' standard takes 2-3 wks. (depending , though less than you might think, on the speed of the comp.) fortunately 99+% of the work has already been done for you on that box.
asciilifeform: ( see the mod6 thread . )
asciilifeform: douchebag: ls -ltr /var/log/portage and find the emerge log and you can see what it does.
douchebag: I'm installing vim on the rockchip box right now
asciilifeform: for instance, rebuilding world on the rockchip ( a quite modest comp ) takes about a day and a half
asciilifeform: https://archive.li/TzRKT << in noose lulz. ' “We don’t care, we think you’re a criminal, and I’m sorry but Microsoft wants your head on a platter and I’m going to give it to them.” Those are the words that the US attorney said to me in that meeting, face to face.'
douchebag: What are some of the reasons you prefer using it?
asciilifeform: so what was the 'getting used to gentoo' about ?
douchebag: and thought I lost the gpg message that contained my credentials
douchebag: and just copy in the new gpg msg
asciilifeform is confused : douchebag only now thought to log in to the box for 1st time ??
douchebag: and it gave me the ssh creds
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most obvious reason would be if he wants to make own linux for it.
mircea_popescu: but why would he lol. box is there to test on already.
asciilifeform: douchebag: lemme know if you run into problems. also see my www, i posted a recipe for how to make the same box at home, to test on.
mircea_popescu: o hey, how's the rockchip working for you douchebag ?
asciilifeform laboured under the notion that parrots in city oughta emit such sounds as motorcycle vroom, horns, etc
mircea_popescu: it's not a natural functuionm, you realise, like fucking. gotta spend time to TEACH THEM.
mircea_popescu: the green guys are parrots, why not ?
BingoBoingo: Those are the little green ones. I am going to see.
asciilifeform: ( or.. do they?? mircea_popescu knows ? )
asciilifeform: i didn't notice any 'proper' parrot in BingoBoingostan. only the little green argentine type.
BingoBoingo: But if they are Loros that would explain why I occasionally hear "Todo bien" coming from los arboles
BingoBoingo: After I put in some effort trying to teach them to say nigger
BingoBoingo: Also, the green birds from http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/04/25/remedial-skills-camera-walk-rtfm-edition/ La Peruana insists are Loros, but I am calling bullshit on her because Loros talk.
BingoBoingo suggested he buy a cheap-o refurb tower and then walked him through space power math.
asciilifeform: ( picture, why would rathead suddenly ask after pizarro )
asciilifeform: aa lol the usg provocateur d00d
BingoBoingo: He was not the fellow who earlier inquired on what sort of shared hosting prices I could offer that might sway him from the under 3 USD a month contract he entered into "Hostgator". That was a Redhat JVM developer.
asciilifeform: renovations?! they rust?!?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: He and an few other Uruguayos do website renovations
BingoBoingo: In other lulz this week, a born and breed Uruguayo approached me this week asking advice on doing business with Norte Americanos this week. He was completely confounded that Gringos del Norte do not want to wait until after 3-4 skype "meetings" before making a decision. I explained I am in LATAM for reasons, but it would be to his advantage to streamline his shit so he is ready to sell it when the customer is ready to buy