spyked: in related news, thetarpit.org will soon point to the same site as wp.thetarpit.org ; I'll temporarily disable thetarpit's feedbot feed while sorting this out, so I avoid any potential spam while at it
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944605 <-- lol. these should be all of them for now. will have to fix the local trackbacks next, which will result in another deluge, this time on own blog.
lobbes: lol, the magic omnibus
BingoBoingo: Apparently there is still one thing Paraguay produces in a more traditional manner than Uruguay
BingoBoingo: Specifically, you are going to have to link a more specific label than "link" to you you need. Also what did the link not make it through?
lobbes: http://trilema.com/2019/the-famous-schlob-and-other-stories/#footnote_0_88237 << heh, when I go to lookup "deluvional" the top result in duckduckgo is... another trilema
mp_en_viaje: much easier to seek than to fix. digging through millions may seem discouraging, on the surfce, because it takes months.
mp_en_viaje: i mean, you know, it's one thing to say "dude, you're wasting your mouth with that swill, try some beer". but if they don't like it, why can't they just carry on with whatever, what diff could it possibly make.
billymg: perhaps higher than i should, but it's never been at the top
billymg: selfish reasons i suppose. that they might enlist and help the republic shape the world into what it should be
billymg: comfort, i think they know what it means to care, and it means a loss of comfort
billymg: for the majority, sure, play with iphone all day
billymg: well, because some of them actually seem very intelligent, and seem like they'd be pretty good at it, if they cared
mp_en_viaje: ok, for you. but why should ~they~ ?
billymg: because isn't that the point? try to figure out how the world works and get it to work for you
mp_en_viaje: why should they ?
billymg: ah yeah, i remember this one now, lots of good lulz in there
mp_en_viaje: why the fuck would it be discouraging, it's not like i went in caring about the retards
mp_en_viaje: yeah, say hi to 1000 to find 100 to ask how their day;s been to find 10 to ask a 2ns question to to find one...
billymg: as in, gotta talk to 1000 to find the one human?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944732 << it's why the ~many~ is in there.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944716 << o ya, the attempt of the roman law folk to make sense out of the world, their structure of terms of art etc, lulzy goldmine
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 20:43:42 lobbes: But this is faulty reasoning; e.g. mp_en_viaje sure as fuck didn't like Argentina yet knew that place inside and out (which is how he even came to the conclusion that it sucked so hard in the first place)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 20:43:35 lobbes: I fell into ill thinking in which I reasoned that since I don't want to live here ~forever~ and that I don't really like the place that I am content with being a hermit for the time being.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944720 << the correct reasoning is to observe that since you don't intend to stay, therefore mistakes are cheap.
lobbes: billymg: oya, I encounter that as well, which is what leads to my hermit behavior I find ("meh, I don't even enjoy hanging with that guy; would rather just be alone"). But part of networking I suppose is just dealing with it and making the effort. Not like BingoBoingo had to be best buds with his bicycle guy contact, either
billymg: anything i _want_ to talk about, they absolutely _do not_ want to talk about
lobbes: in other news, my second server is finally provisioned. I'm off to resurrect auctionbot and blog!
lobbes: billymg, right? Ditto, though I ought to start talking to more people regardless of where I am. Sure it is 'easier' to just not talk to people, but the easy things are easy for a reason
BingoBoingo: billymg: Aite. I'll try to have these tarballed GPG'd and uploaded within the next 24 hours. Will let you know if I have any issues.
billymg: i've been so lost in corporate world these past few years it's all i know, and vow not to make the same mistake once i jump the fence
lobbes: But this is faulty reasoning; e.g. mp_en_viaje sure as fuck didn't like Argentina yet knew that place inside and out (which is how he even came to the conclusion that it sucked so hard in the first place)
lobbes: I fell into ill thinking in which I reasoned that since I don't want to live here ~forever~ and that I don't really like the place that I am content with being a hermit for the time being.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944415 << I see what you mean, and this makes sense. In that case, I must confess I have not spent my time here in carolinastan taking ownership of the place. Certainly have not made and BTC/fiat interface contacts, which I do see now as foolish.
billymg: it would still be nice to get a copy of some of the directories on my old rk if i'm not too late
billymg: BingoBoingo: i took a snapshot of my blog db when piz briefly came back after the unexpected outage, and i have local copies of my patches (i see diana_coman mirrored the mp-wp patches, but i also have the mp-wp-tests patches)
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-famous-schlob-and-other-stories/ << Trilema -- The Famous Schlob, and other stories.
BingoBoingo: "Yes, despite paying for powered rack... Running machines that may become surprise uncooled when they don't even network access is a great risk/reward calculation.
BingoBoingo: Also not a necessary leaving tell when people other than HVAC folk were seen trying to fix HVAC crisis. It's a natural equipment preservation move.
BingoBoingo: Anyways. Having everything but the one switch powered down when the network doesn't work seems like the only sane response to walking into the Monday Air conditioner disaster.
BingoBoingo: Empty humans box during business hours has been the exception in the past. Consistently seeing it when never seeing it before...
BingoBoingo: But the lack of anyone in the humans box seems to be a strong "less than skeleton/prize crew at the helm" situation
BingoBoingo: But during the conversation never said anything definitive as to my future operations rather than my clients'operations, but did emphasize the difficulty of continuing as is. This may have baited the keycard.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I would have thought first batch of wheeling would have, but apparently neither receptionist cared that day nor does anyone appear to mid the security cameras at the enterance.
BingoBoingo: But never worked for the honest wheels door
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Yesterday I had to use the service enterance because wheels.
mp_en_viaje: wait, walked you out ? i thought the keycard thingee just quit
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Not outside the realm of possibility, but yes. Would be surprising. Then again there was no one in the glass humans box yesterday at an hour 1. Well after local lunch hour and a half concludes 2. Well before local workday concludes. Fellow who walked me out had to come from one of the two other datacenters (the other two are under different S.A. corp for Freezone purposes, maybe more solvent?)
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 08:29:13 mp_en_viaje: i can't even be arsed to distinguish whether it's the case that some weirdo is in fact SO weird as to actually have an xray machine, microscopes etcetera but 0 boxes, or rather the case some fifteen yo is just talking along with the crowd, a sort of [][zelig], becoming overweight when talking to overweight people about their obexsity and growing a beard when hanging out with rabbis.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 10:26:06 asciilifeform: !Qlater tell mp_en_viaje if you think asciilifeform is liar, then per the mp's operating instruction you have wrong sign bit on asciilifeform's rating. i'ma take that -9 nao.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, despite the signs of unwellness, it would still be surprising if I don't have access because they don't have access either.
BingoBoingo: "Colocates servers, why wouldn't he hire a 'fletes' to do the manual labor?"
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I'm pretty sure even though I wheeled out servers with a hand truck earlier, doing so yesterday while someone was paying attention... was probably a shock. Especially in light of the pseudo-classism thing that goes in in this part of the world.
BingoBoingo: The sutures holding my scrotum to this horse feel substantially less tight than they did even this morning.
BingoBoingo: Also visited the commercial shippers today. Going to have to get my own boxes and will probably be headed to the networking hardware store tomorrow to see what they got.
BingoBoingo: Aite. Will play dumb and let them accumulate breaches.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, after taking care of some other things Imma draft a "Let's get this liability of a contract off both of our books and cleanly and inexpensively as possible" letter. Will not fire off without getting some reads here of the draft.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, they've captured 1. weird switch any prospective or current customers are going to "brand fag" about being offered 2. Commodity switch already plentiful on local market 3. some single board computers 4. rails, cables, and other shit it would have been nice for them to have Jan/Feb 2018!!!
BingoBoingo: Seriously. Glad I didn't warn then before wheeling out the last 1Us. Still between then and this afternoon's visit to SWEEP AND CLEAN while packing... I was still able to get in last night. WTF sort of delay is that.
BingoBoingo: ATTN ALL: Latecho has silently disabled my access to the datacenter. All that remains in the rack per my last survey are 1. Switch for the incoming connection 2. less sophisticated switch serving RK plant 3. RK plant (minus drives) 4. Rails 5. A small mountain of network and power cables 6. Many Racknuts, mostly unsused 7. One platic tote box, empty
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 07:03:11 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944385 << were worn, in all fairness, but certainly see the flavour.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944498 << Servers worn yes. Was counting on "in Uruguay" to convey the sadness.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad nicoleci https://archive.org/details/RoBalaicaGRimm/page/n5 << the sisters marrying bear story.
crowncloud_: let me see, I'll have a chat with my boss and see how it goes, I'll drop a reply to the email ? or ?
diana_coman: crowncloud_: as mp_en_viaje says, in time you could bridge this over with custom software too but for the moment just a person to do the bridging (or 2-3 on shifts, whatever); you know what'd work
mp_en_viaje: the pizarro irc isp suite'd have been quite useful right now, "here, use this"
mp_en_viaje: not like pizarro wrote itself one, for all the aferations of intensive care etc.
crowncloud_: na nothing against IRC really, its just that the panel handles it all for us, bills are auto-generated on the due date, support alerts go to all members so everyone on-shift is alerted of whatever issue etc so they can all provide you updates as we get them from the datacenter side
diana_coman: crowncloud_: basically establish a presence on irc too, they'll probably even train up while at it, if anything.
diana_coman: crowncloud_: that was my email, lol; it won't really work for everyone anyway; and really, what's against irc? it's ok, we don't bite the unexperienced.
BingoBoingo: And by "much of their staff" I mean my point man with a good head.
crowncloud_: the same ID to/from which you sent us an email earlier today ?
BingoBoingo: crowncloud_: I understand that. Last datacenter had much of their staff disappear sometime after 8 September this year.
crowncloud_: Yup -- just trying to see how to make it best possible, because I don't want to leave anyone hanging for support and at the same time, for billing as well. I don't usually want staff to interact with customers as it leads to a very "mixed" of experience
BingoBoingo: crowncloud_: In my experience serving these clients they practicly support themselves most of the time. Very tech literate. The few things they ask however, they need.
mp_en_viaje: it's not really gonna work to try and get the republic on website.
diana_coman: so they can escalate it internally in any way; the point is: one contact here and then that contact can escalate and do whatever in your system
crowncloud_: hmm issue is, not all staff have access to the datacenter stuff (for security reasons) so there's a internal escilation for such tasks via support tickets
diana_coman: crowncloud_: they can come online too, no? have them reg a key each and leave a znc on, what
crowncloud_: let me see -- i mean, for support etc as well, it would be very useful if via the client area, because we have different staff on rotating shifts, so someone or the other would be available to help you out rather than waiting for me to come online :P
crowncloud_: just checking into invoicing via deedbot -- we usually handle support/invoicing etc all via our client area (helps keep track of invoices/updates the customer on any network maintanence etc)
diana_coman: crowncloud_: the chan is logged at http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema if you missed anything
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 14:34:11 mp_en_viaje: UY1: » 128 GB ECC RAM » 2x 16-core AMD Opteron 6376 (2.3 GHz) (32 Cores) » Reserved Space, Just for you on a 1.7 TB RAID 10 Array composed of Samsung Solid State Drives » Apache, MySQL, PHP 5.6 » Located in safe and politically stable Montevideo, Uruguay outside of NATO or other belligerent states
diana_coman: this is how ossasepia is moving to the US, pfft.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: well, in the end the london guy wasted my morning; after which I have 2 people actually showing up; what can I say.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 09:41:58 diana_coman: and after all the time-wasting, london-guy fails; at least it's consistent with expectations.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: no; the london guy failed as per http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944531
diana_coman: trackbacks while walking through the forest
mp_en_viaje: so i log into trilema after a coupla days of walking through forests etc, and i find... 58 comments in queue. so im like wtf, fucking hell, the spam thing finally croaked.
diana_coman: was there anyone close to either LA or Atlanta? apparently that's where crowncloud_ has datacenter space for colo.
mp_en_viaje: o there she is. Guest23498 ^
BingoBoingo: Most of the boxe's power ended up simply being a sort of "fleet in being" reserve.
mp_en_viaje: speaking of which, man this penthouse apt is nice. best view of frankfurt, i had forgotten how pleasant these superlative views from on top of the city are.
mp_en_viaje: UY1: » 128 GB ECC RAM » 2x 16-core AMD Opteron 6376 (2.3 GHz) (32 Cores) » Reserved Space, Just for you on a 1.7 TB RAID 10 Array composed of Samsung Solid State Drives » Apache, MySQL, PHP 5.6 » Located in safe and politically stable Montevideo, Uruguay outside of NATO or other belligerent states
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, aite. ill cover w/e you paid, lump it with the drive incinerations and w/e else such odds and ends.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: You can have him go ahead. I pulled the trigger on the purchase, but haven't done setup yet. It's one of those fast delivery CentOS things, hard to tell if actual physical box or virtualized cheat box. It's an "any" box. If this service has a guy to show up, its a better option
mp_en_viaje: ok, so our uruguay dc just imploded, and there's some stuff to relocate asap seeing how whatever, people's blogs are offline
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 08:29:13 mp_en_viaje: i can't even be arsed to distinguish whether it's the case that some weirdo is in fact SO weird as to actually have an xray machine, microscopes etcetera but 0 boxes, or rather the case some fifteen yo is just talking along with the crowd, a sort of [][zelig], becoming overweight when talking to overweight people about their obexsity and growing a beard when hanging out with rabbis.
lobbesbot: mp_en_viaje: Sent 58 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> if you think [http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944450] [asciilifeform is liar] , then per the [http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/] [mp's operating instruction] you have wrong sign bit on asciilifeform's rating. i'ma take that -9 nao.
asciilifeform: diana_coman et al : all further q's for asciilifeform , in castles plox. here i'ma answer if invoked by mp and not otherwise.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: mind answering in #o for a bit; there's an indonesian isp guy that might do some work.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 08:11:09 mp_en_viaje: you're not fucking useful. learn to be useful or get the fuck lost, it can't be any plainer than that.
asciilifeform: this goes for errybody else. whythefuq are you keeping a http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944432 around.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 08:29:13 mp_en_viaje: i can't even be arsed to distinguish whether it's the case that some weirdo is in fact SO weird as to actually have an xray machine, microscopes etcetera but 0 boxes, or rather the case some fifteen yo is just talking along with the crowd, a sort of [][zelig], becoming overweight when talking to overweight people about their obexsity and growing a beard when hanging out with rabbis.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Qlater tell mp_en_viaje if you think asciilifeform is liar, then per the mp's operating instruction you have wrong sign bit on asciilifeform's rating. i'ma take that -9 nao.
diana_coman: they claim they accept payment via bitcoin to direct address though so if anyone wants their details, let me know; their datacentre is in London but I won't have anything further to do with them.
diana_coman: and after all the time-wasting, london-guy fails; at least it's consistent with expectations.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 01:46:59 lobbes: I mean to say above: do you want the links appearing in the log lines to be enclosed in <a href> tags
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944406 << ah, i thought you meant the clickable timestamp. uh, tbh the answer stays the same : whichever works easiest.
mp_en_viaje: but also, LOTS of fucking crashing on the autobahn, this'd be the 3 major in a piddly 500 mile stretch we did so far. i'd guess half a dozen dead total, too.
mp_en_viaje: in fairness, zee germans are a pleasure to be stuck in a stau with, such as it is. literally 1k semis orderly to the side of the road so light traffic can make it through, these folk are fuckien dsciplined.
mp_en_viaje: who knows how the fuck do go about anything ;/
diana_coman: apparently the london guy is asking for a rider too, pretty much.
mp_en_viaje: well, it's easy enough to bounce back in, but yes, spessart forest kicks butt as a forest, but not the greatest for signl
diana_coman: well, I'm still trying here to get on top of the logs but between emails/isps/ixps lists & all that, it's not going that fast and I'm not even in the forest.
mp_en_viaje: well, it's easy enough to bounce back in, but yes, spessart forest kicks butt as a forest, but not the greatest for signl
diana_coman: apparently it occasionally kicks the can too, lolz.
mp_en_viaje: this logging in the car business kicks ass.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 01:41:28 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: I meant to ask earlier, do you want the logged lines on the blog to be linkable ala the standard logger?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944404 << whichever way is the easier.
diana_coman: there are some guys from the netherlands too who were very humbly apologizing that they can't do it; at least not obnoxious like south koreans I suppose; but anyway, this is better on a blog for sure.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 00:02:27 BingoBoingo: "Server for sale, in Uruguay" seems like the Pizarro version of "Baby shoes, never worn"
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944385 << were worn, in all fairness, but certainly see the flavour.
diana_coman: and I was just finishing the bashing-email, now need to tweak a bit; because he still has funny ideas.
mp_en_viaje: people fish with the water not being flat, notwithstanding bumpy lens surface is hardly worth using.
mp_en_viaje: the fundamental problem is that polishing a lens until it's flawless is hard but attainable ; but polishing a fishery until the water's perfectly flat is NOT attainable.
mp_en_viaje: perhaps because failing early is how he managed to get away from it and move back to the other lobe as a child, or for any other reason.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 03:52:49 mp_en_viaje: it's not there because it was designed ; it's there because it was selected, which is a different thing. selection produces things that work, definitionally, that's what it is. not well or correctly or properly but AT ALL.
mp_en_viaje: the problem is that most of life consists of dealing with born, not made systems and structures. selected not designed. and in dealing with that, he is TERRIBLE. he's not even at the level of a 3yo, which'd be complete martian naivite. he's in fact numerously and profoundly counter-trained, he does things that specifically ensure failure.
mp_en_viaje: whioch isn't even universally a bad approach, most tools are to be made to the flawless standard. which is why when he's in there gunsmithing his gun, he turns out very good work.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 23:59:43 trinque: BingoBoingo: man I hardly think perfect's the word here. it literally means complete!
mp_en_viaje: "they" do.
mp_en_viaje: ys of his toe jam instead of getting his business of the ground, because, you see, THEY GAS PEOPLE!!!
ossabot: Logged on 2016-12-01 15:37:35 mircea_popescu: A student told his friend, "My teacher has amazing powers. He moves a pen in the air and characters appear on a piece of paper held on the other side of the river. What does your master do?" His friend replied "My great master follows Zen. When he is hungry, he eats and when he is tired he sleeps."
mp_en_viaje: in this alt-world he's a moron-hero who can't as much as leave the house but is besieged by armed hordes nevertheless. so you can't say that he's wasting his time watching a termometer instead of eating, because there's snipers on every roof! and you can't laugh at him fucking with xra
mp_en_viaje: then after it passed it becomes this perpetual self-reference basis, and who knows, maybe everyone's dumb enough to actually start taking it seriously seeing how it got repeated over and over again after having not been laughed out of court outright.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944379 << the counterwright for his mechanism of nonsense. in practice it works as a scummy attachment strategy, in that it readily passes filters as "playful talk", the man's making a joke, see, it's double-entendre, like a clever use of language, oh, exaggeration, we get it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 23:49:24 BingoBoingo: and not limit the search to Vienna, Warsaw, and Anatolia simply because more civilization survives there than apparently anywhere else.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944377 << best of luck, and don't forget to describe it in detail! that's what the blog is for after all.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 23:48:44 BingoBoingo: has pulled the trigger on a heathenbox. Hopefully will get to setting it up soon.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944353 << nobody fucking does, but what the fuck can you do, if nobody says anything the chitlins will die stupid.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 22:42:09 asciilifeform: when uy1 was suspected of overheat, had its thermometer displayed also where could see it, even when eating.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944347 << dude, the problem's not your doing of the things you do. the problem's your not doing of the things you do not do.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 09:19:28 mp_en_viaje: stop confusing cause and effect, stop looking up the wrong name server roots, stop minimaxing randomly about, it's the stuff of insanity.
mp_en_viaje: through the holy trifecta of http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1943242 ; and who wants to be friends ; and who wants you to certify his self-given immunities, oh he doesn't suck cock and that's ok. "how the fuck could it be okay, the cock's right there. suck it, bitch" "oh, noes..."
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 23:02:01 trinque: anyhow that copy I wrote for your wacky larping index page never went up. I don't beg my way into other people's struggling businesses.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944352 << well, in socialism you universally end up having to, because there's going to be a pompous whiny idiot there who's spent all the time fucking everything up.
mp_en_viaje: precisely and exactly and the problem is, most people don't understand anything therefore the rake's still there to step on. over, and over, and over again.
mp_en_viaje: except, of course, nobody fucking wanted it. but other than that -- yes.
mp_en_viaje: notwithstanding objectively the milk was better, and the only chocolare available better than the mode, and the mean, let alone average chocolate available in "democracy", and in general yes, an "objective dollar" / pound of silver DID, indisputably, buy more in socialism than "capitalism".
mp_en_viaje: and then "inexplicably" they just fucking ended. because, apparently, meaning is not independent of the means to meaning, and if you don't manage to produce meaning you don't manage to produce anything.
mp_en_viaje: and similarily military/penitentiary underwear universally, and the yearning for something, ANYTHING else that goes with it.
mp_en_viaje: and for that matter no cosmetics -- if girl at home ain't tryna immitate the girl selling news on tv, what need for rouge ?
mp_en_viaje: thus they indeed built a drab gray world, with no instagram sluts vying for a chance at being the next "avon ambassador", no twerking girlies tryna "make it in dis biz" of "rap" which consists of dudes vying for a chance of being the nike ideal salesman, whose paper icon is in every nike shop so the actual shoe salesman can hide after this nike jesus and sell from behind the mask
mp_en_viaje: this is ~precisely~ the economic proposition of classical socialism, that by saving all the money "wasted" on marketing, packaging, advertising etcetera, it can pass those savings on to the customer, ~and they'll amount to something meaningful~.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 22:59:18 trinque: I don't know if the soviets invented some kind of circumcision that removes the "and then you persuade people to give you their money for the thing you have"
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944350 << actually that was the whole idea. the entire concept of a socialist economy is that market communication is spurious because somehow everyone inherits the perfect knowledge of the planners.
mp_en_viaje: similarily, if i was hiring and this engineer dude showed up, passed the quals, and then explained that he must have limo service from company, because he can't drive and is affraid of trams and the bus driver is mean to him, i'd hve similarly said no thanks. because, again, some dude too inept to have mastered transportation is not qualified to play the engineer, irrespective of what the paperwork girlies say.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 22:23:12 asciilifeform: which i suspect is at least part of the reason mp didnt want it.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944321 << yes, sure, in some complexly contorted re-interpretation it could be said that i don't want it because someone inept enough to have a problem with the bitcoin is probably just as inept in other places and will do something stupid enough to be a danger of life and limb.
mp_en_viaje: you're poor because you're stupid. and you'll stay poor for as long as you stay stupid. that's the whole fucking story.
mp_en_viaje: cuz that's what i fucking needed, you know, not -- god forbid -- a working isp, oh no, not that. i wanted some fucking kitchen xray shots of some long dead gramophone. THAT is what was needed, it'll make the apotropaion of alf, when the darkness comes we just show it that and it walks away.
mp_en_viaje: i can't even be arsed to distinguish whether it's the case that some weirdo is in fact SO weird as to actually have an xray machine, microscopes etcetera but 0 boxes, or rather the case some fifteen yo is just talking along with the crowd, a sort of [][zelig], becoming overweight when talking to overweight people about their obexsity and growing a beard when hanging out with rabbis.
mp_en_viaje: then it turns out you've been talking out of your ass.
mp_en_viaje: not even a week ago you were grumbling about how you want whatever opterons "you sealed" back, as if you're some kind of fucking actor, maybe you own 10% of the remaining stock of opterons, who the fuck knows.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 12:12:42 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not disputing the general principle. but finding it difficult to see how would have made a diff re the latech thing.
mp_en_viaje: because that was the structure of THAT conversation, actually, irrespective what the shit between your ears may have misrepresented it as : i noted you got your fingers caught, and then i pointed out WHY you got your fingers caught, and then took the first opportunity to offer some slack to extract yourself.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:39:33 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1942062 << the uy nonsense caught you just right huh!
mp_en_viaje: and yes i had thought that offering you the opportunity to at least rack some of that, thereby liquidating it without losing ownership, would be exactly the pill to resolve the cash flow woes of an otherwise useful and intelligent gent.
mp_en_viaje: yes, on the basis of the pompous bullshit you keep spitting into the logs i had formed the impression that you're sitting on a large stash of assorted hardware, which is a major factor of your manifest refusal to leave the washington swamp.
mp_en_viaje: you make a big noise, oh, "i like this, oh i do that", people end up imagining inside the noisecloud there's some substance.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 22:09:37 asciilifeform: also, BingoBoingo , even if he had asked for the rack, we cannot teleport the boxen, it wouldnot satisfy the 'omfg want uy1 NAO!!' req.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944292 << these are fucking unrelated.
mp_en_viaje: i'd rather deal with amazon than with red stapler idiot bullshit each day of the week, who the fuck do you think gives a shit about your elaborate list of can't do's ?!
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo_, is in on the carpet over not managing to magic over workable orcs in the south american outback over a coupla years ? he got there he didn't even speak the fucking language.
mp_en_viaje: you're not fucking useful. learn to be useful or get the fuck lost, it can't be any plainer than that.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 22:05:05 asciilifeform: an' it's sold by the pound. interchangeable, predictable, exactly like 'serious biz' folx luvv so Much.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 21:50:00 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Power for dollar, you do seem to have a knack for buying machines. As I'm digesting the day's conversation the objection from mp seems to be the mindset which produces this frugality is handicapping when extended to other areas.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944264 << every heuristic is potentially useful while gripped firmly in your hand, and damaging if it takes over the head.
mp_en_viaje: he;s gonna fill up the channel with idiotic old woman wailing now, on top of ten thousand lines of being hysterically useless.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 21:41:08 asciilifeform: where didja buy them parts, BingoBoingo , at airport ??
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 14:30:18 mp_en_viaje: there exist good cheeses now because (mostly french) many anon farmers produced the structure to protect them.
mp_en_viaje: the very fucking point of structure speaks directly here. to be in the republic ~you must not be in pantsuit~. living the life of the atomized powerless pantsuit ~necessarily~ means you can't be in the republic.
mp_en_viaje: in any case, if you want to sell one or ten or a hundred bitcoin in budapest i can tell you where ; or in kiev, or in munich, or in i dunno if i make myself clear here, but this vegetative state where you can do nothing, you know no one etcetera is not fit for independent living. if you're going to live like that you must live in the household of another, as a servant.
mp_en_viaje: that's the format, and that's even the fucking reason of existing. if this isn't what you do, in what sense are you even a person, what the fuck, you're somebody's maid, ploughssharer, tavern wench, whatever it is you think you appear or attempt to say you're at no risk of being taken for a gentleman.
mp_en_viaje: and that's the expectation, whoever;s resident answers questions. "i need a car" here you go. "seems this deal's going south" "i know this lawyer", "we want to X" "you'll have to p q and r, ima send guy over to talk to you about p, no problem, q you do thus and following, r is iffy, becayse s and t considerations, ima see what can be done".
mp_en_viaje: so the question actually was, "any chance you'd extend your presumed ownership of georgia-carolina-tenesee" into the tri-state area such as to cover this inept schmuck, who can't apparently get out of the house, and help him out do basic self-support tasks ?
mp_en_viaje: when i returned to timisoara i moved into a place my left-behind man on the ground got for me, when phf showed up in minsk i took him to places my advance team either researched or actually scouted, these are things.
mp_en_viaje: if i reside in a location (which i do, multiple) i can answer a number of questions. "where's the best restaurant", i can answer, and if i like you it'll even be "i'll take you there". "are there any hot whores ?" i can answer, and if i like you i can even send you some. "do you know a lawyer ?" i can answer, and so following.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 20:55:15 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It may be worth working with lobbes/trinque to see if a BTC/Dubloo circuit in the zone can be established. The one thing the US has is cables everywhere. Argentina hangs off of the "Tannat" cable still further from Fortaleza than Uruguay
mp_en_viaje: but if you're staying put, can you at least master the btc to dubaloo interfacing in your area ? can you be a useful someone, rather than alf-style loud someone ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 21:04:31 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944047 << if this were to be done I'd say trinque probably better fit for the role. While I am always hungry for BTC, my orcbux stash took a hit while jettisoning dependopotamus. I'm currently regrouping financially speaking, and while my monthly cashflow should be increasing by ~ $1k in the coming months, I'll still be at 'pauper' level in real terms. Consumption continues to be slashed, howe
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944210 << nobody's talking to you as some sort of established pile of wonder, where what you ~have~ is interesting. i'm sure it's not. the idea is whether what you ~do~ can be interesting. if you're leaving for thailand, it's one thing,
diana_coman: there should be more coming as I've contacted yest ~30 new providers.
diana_coman: in early morning crop, only 4 replies: 1 is "please hold on, will enquire"; 2 is "invoicing is a problem because local laws bla" (I've replied to them with simple solution aka their person comes and interfaces); 3 is can't do + we are obnoxious and you do as we say (south koreans too!) 4. is again "help, please hold, will ask boss"
lobbes: I mean to say above: do you want the links appearing in the log lines to be enclosed in <a href> tags
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: I meant to ask earlier, do you want the logged lines on the blog to be linkable ala the standard logger?
lobbes: turns out, btw, that the whole "detect permalinks structure" thing wasn't even needed... the "guid" field does not represent, as I erroneously thought prior, the absolute path to the post. mp-wp just puts the absolute path in there "by default" as the guid. Saved a lot of time by realizing that
lobbes: in other news, I have knocked out all items in week 4 mp-wp work plan. Next on list is: the search blog portion, and the sending pingbacks from irc portion
BingoBoingo to take unwinding unloaded walk and then bed.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 03:01:45 BingoBoingo: "Server for sale, in Uruguay" seems like the Pizarro version of "Baby shoes, never worn"
BingoBoingo: When the Bitcoin declaration of independence went around gathering signatures in 2014, it was enough to dislike the USG and want to see the USG done. Now, for the failures of marketing outside of the MP household... much of the language about the Republic seems larpish, except when he says it because... He's been a battleship before Bitcoin.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 02:01:18 trinque: anyhow that copy I wrote for your wacky larping index page never went up. I don't beg my way into other people's struggling businesses.
BingoBoingo: "Server for sale, in Uruguay" seems like the Pizarro version of "Baby shoes, never worn"
BingoBoingo: <trinque> the honest assessment is y'all didn't have a man onboard that wanted to do the business part of the business. << This seems very accurate.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Well that's kind what the loper-os vision of computing is. Compare to MP's I'll buy it but it better work or I'll break it.
trinque: the honest assessment is y'all didn't have a man onboard that wanted to do the business part of the business.
trinque: BingoBoingo: man I hardly think perfect's the word here. it literally means complete!
BingoBoingo: With respect to keeping anything powered on in the rack serving anything, it damages the case that "we might have a stable connection in a month" is unacceptable.
BingoBoingo: and not limit the search to Vienna, Warsaw, and Anatolia simply because more civilization survives there than apparently anywhere else.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-09#1944320 << Death comes for everyone. Your micro/macro risk calculation organs are calibrated in a way that all to frequently weighs in favor of the perfect at the expense of the possible and at times the necessary as well. I am trying to take Señor Popescu's lessons and if he thinks I ought to apprentice as a datacenter tech in an actual employement role... I'm going put myself out there
lobbes: BingoBoingo: confirmed. I have both recent blog dump and auctionbot postgres dumps. I should be good to go for the time-being
BingoBoingo: trinque: Thank you for helping with the cleanup.
trinque: should be same ssh key they had.
trinque: lobbes: you around to confirm ssh access to the box with uy1 backups?
trinque: anyhow that copy I wrote for your wacky larping index page never went up. I don't beg my way into other people's struggling businesses.
trinque: I don't know if the soviets invented some kind of circumcision that removes the "and then you persuade people to give you their money for the thing you have"
asciilifeform: when uy1 was suspected of overheat, had its thermometer displayed also where could see it, even when eating.
asciilifeform: and even in other rooms of house ditto.
asciilifeform: i'm not even making a joke against mp , perhaps he's right that somewhere there lives the hero with 8 hands who can do all of this on spec.
asciilifeform: trinque: all you'd have to do, is convert arbitrary tonnage of btc to usd, pick an' lease a rack, fill it with irons, y'know, replace asciilifeform and the other charlatans who previously did this.
trinque: BingoBoingo thanks, saw, now getting ssh access set up for them.
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 3 hours and 52 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Backups have finished uploading to the deedbot server.
asciilifeform: lobbes you might be the youngest among us ship o'fools.
asciilifeform: which i suspect is at least part of the reason mp didnt want it.
asciilifeform: or the day is fbi stoolie.
asciilifeform: except for the day he doesn't.
BingoBoingo: Aite, I'm going to stop sitting on the DC floor, put some cables in the bag and hope it isn't raining when I reach the surface world
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can't help it if no one finds the US safe and rich enough to do bicycle cash deliveries
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Part of the UY1 problem is solved. Backups are on a machine awaiting trinque making them available. Other part of UY1 problem is standing up an "anyserver" to get some blogs up and running again.
asciilifeform: 'the customer', BingoBoingo , 'is always right'(tm)(r) .
asciilifeform: i've had a certain piece of shit running there for 5y, lobbes . and it stayed up 24/7/365.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well it'd take ARIN a week or so to get your IPs which would make for a tight schedule even FedEx'ing or couriering boxes, but the lockup on fiat/BTC interfacing so early and definitively...