mircea_popescu: pretty much the ~whole~ of economic activity is the process of a) building b) truthful propositions that c) describe some sort of comparative advantage and d) lots of it, especially e) of a very easily defended kind.
mircea_popescu: mod6, you understand, refinancing is people putting money on a proposition. it depends immensely what the proposition is. P1 = "our book value is ~11 and consists 95% of exotic hardware nobody else can get where it is" is very different from P2 = "we ate through our seed A+++ would do some more dicking about with files we download. oh and there's also some hardware."
asciilifeform wishes there were a spare asciilifeform , because asciilifeform is 150% loaded with chores
asciilifeform: eventually will begin to run out, if no one else shares the chore of producing it
mircea_popescu: i said it once, you know. aanyway : the original idea (get >=300 rockchips there, in a dozen+ Us) was trashed by practical considerations (as alf pointed out, he can't carry 12 us in one go) ; but it'd have required refinancing because you simply did not have enough money to pay for it.
asciilifeform: esp given as the fact that the project has cost asciilifeform a good % of his btc and the bulk of his usd
mircea_popescu: and of course you can also just issue bonds ; whether convertible or not, until conversion event they sit on the passive.
mircea_popescu: equity entitles you to a say, but the necessities of physical world (whereby there's only so many seats for the thing to work ; and whereby those have to be seated on by physical people) make the relationship between board and equity somewhat electoral.
mircea_popescu: mod6, well, if it's a sale, like how you got it, then yes. if it's just refinancing, then you keep whatever %.
mircea_popescu: mod6, generally, if you refinance the old board gets trashed.
asciilifeform: mod6: there is more than 1 difficulty with this scheme, but the most obvious one i know of, is that i dun think i actually know 5 people who ~have~ 10btc (much less wanting to play)
mod6: So, let's say that we thought that we would need to raise 50 BTC (just throwing it out there) - I'd like to talk about how that might work.
mod6: I'm not impartial to database. I just want something that we can all see, and all the info about the business is contained within.
mod6: I dont even think that he really wants to use it specifically either, as, again, mod6 is not accountant.
mircea_popescu: hey, you get a free db with the file system, i never was arsed to do any better on my reports. not that i'm proposing my laziness as the model for anyone else nor that i think the bikeshedding discussion needs to continue, now extented into a theoretical comparison of the merits and dismerits of postgress and implicit-fs-db.
mod6: I didn't say this was top priority either.
asciilifeform: and it has all of the pertinent functionality of a microshit spreadshit etc
asciilifeform: i made the above ^ in <1hr
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 00:07 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6 , mircea_popescu , et al : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/piz_tab.html << corrections of central column or other init params, welcome
asciilifeform: it wouldn't even bother me if it were a js hack, along the lines of my http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1809743 example
mod6: I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise.
mircea_popescu: yes ; but if the present trend continues you won't have all that much to read altogether.
mod6: How the fuck are we to know what is what.
mod6: God forbid that ben_vulpes get's hit by a car on his bike tomorrow and then we have to pick this up.
mod6: I don't care if it's a flat file either.
mod6: I want all of the things in a place we can all refer to and say "oh there it is! now I can see how many x are in there" or whatever.
mircea_popescu: you're a nice guy, mod6, and your point is without merit. nevertheless, the whole thing's a bike shed. who the hell even cares what the infrastructure is like for handling six numbers ?
asciilifeform: mod6: it was my understanding that all of the inventory work was already done.
mod6: And I guess, it is not up to me how Mr. Vulpes wants to track these things for Pizarro, however, if I'm asked to make decisions, I EXPECT that these things are clear, in plain language.
mod6: Now what is a waste of time, for me, is this lisp/sexp shit. For instance, lastnight it cost us 2 man hours. 1 for me, 1 for ben who had to take me through the entire rockchip lisp thing that he created.
asciilifeform: mod6: 'waste' may be wrong word. but quite hard to see why it is a blocker for the more urgent puzzler of 'where to get customers'
mircea_popescu: you've been "managing" the thing for months, haven't yet hired a single salesman. what are you managing over there, the transition into bureaucracy ?
mircea_popescu: you find yourself in the unique position of a start-up running out of runway that doesn't have AS MUCH AS A LANDING PAGE. suppose i wanted to send people over ; where the everloving fuck do i even send them ?
mircea_popescu: well, why not kick him while he's down. so, ben_vulpes , do you understand the meaning of "They know how to work those" in http://trilema.com/2013/attention-cunt/#selection-37.37-37.64 ?
asciilifeform: unless it wants a nonstandard var name ? ( what does it want? there are 0 docs )
asciilifeform: in env it's -j32 , and no effect from this either
ave1: will be picked up from env, not in config.sh, the tarball script will make it's own config.sh in build/build-bootstrap (in general in build/build-<platform-name>)
asciilifeform: 1 prelim result : the parallelism dunwork
asciilifeform: i must confess that i agree with mircea_popescu : the postgres db thing is neither here nor there, and in fact harmful, i would like to be able to run ben_vulpes's calculations as before , using his lisp proggies, without having to fuck with a db snapshot, wtf srsly
ben_vulpes: i don't think it useless nothing as it will snip significant time off report generation. the pressure from the board is to forge forward with the rockchips, but if there's change to be eked from the shared hosting i should capture that as well, so thanks for the prodding.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 18:15 ben_vulpes: not required but it is the next item on my conveyor after the april report
ben_vulpes: i'm going to do it in postgres; should be a lot easier to get php to do both the mysql for the pizarro mpwp and the postgres for deedbot than to port deedbot to mysql
ben_vulpes: mk, makin some progress on the pizarro accounting/assettracking db
asciilifeform: sorta the appeal, from my pov. countermodernity pr0n.
mircea_popescu: subtle my fucking foot. the ~point~ is that art can not create new forms. which is why the fuck they even did the constant copying of masters to learn arts.
asciilifeform: ( the ru translation is pretty much 1:1, and prolly likewise the ro, and the contemporary de transl ditto )
asciilifeform: oh throw out the eng translation, lol
mircea_popescu: herefore it is evident the demons cannot actually effect any permanent transformation in human bodies; that is to say, no real metamorphosis. And so we must refer the appearance of any such change to some dark and occult cause.
mircea_popescu: (english) Moreover, every alteration that takes place in a human body - for example, a state of health or a state of sickness - can be brought down to a question of natural causes, as Aristotle has shown in his 7th book of Physics. And the greatest of these is the influence of the stars. But the devils cannot interfere with the stars. This is the opinion of Dionysius in his epistle to S. Polycarp. For this alone God can do. T
mircea_popescu: anyway, the english translation is terrible. consider :
asciilifeform thoroughly enjoyed the read
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: repeatedly makes the point, yes
mircea_popescu: actually it even has a "zero one infinity" statement. "if demons could alter the world then what'd stop them at all"
mircea_popescu: thieves ~are~ thieves, there's no point in "re-education" jail etc.
mircea_popescu: well, it generally rejects the possibility of change. very platonic.
asciilifeform: tho i read it as in application to 'they turn men into birds, and birds into men' etc
asciilifeform: exactly the 'more odd claims' i meant
asciilifeform: ( it is pretty great b00k, all around, and quite 'liberal' even, contrary to what the derps in amerischool 'teach' about it -- forbade trials by ordeal, imposed procedure , proclaimed heretical some of the moar odd claims popular at the time re subj )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the external site is a bag o'lulz, belongs to iirc some radical feminist types
asciilifeform at one time lived in a house with an aquarium; on several occasion the fish -- jumped out. perhaps this is it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, mit is the owner of ~nothing.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile moving on : the malleus item linked has a "The source version of this text, with notes and additional material, can be found at MalleusMaleficarum.org [External Site]." except the "external site" doth not include such an item.
asciilifeform: see also mircea_popescu's observations re the aquarium. what, exactly, is aquarium fish to do, if he doesn't like the owner ?
mircea_popescu: no relation between these items.
asciilifeform: ditto the nice folx who remove unplugged zeks from the grocery etc. when it bounces there.
asciilifeform: the armed evicters who show up when the rent check bounces, do exist, i've seen'em at work
mircea_popescu: pugachev and zhukov, exactly same : RANDOMLY. and yes, any other one could have, these could not have, etcetera.
mircea_popescu: it's like thinking you were "targetted" for a street mugging. yes, you were, guess by what ? you were targetted as one of the schmucks who imagines they can be targetted by street muggings.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it is strictly my position ; the clouds don't fucking aim ; nor does, nor ~CAN~ socialism aim.
asciilifeform: the clouds aim.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, same thing fucked yehzov as the ligthning fucked tree. what, you think the clouds aim ?!
asciilifeform: this is a pretty odd, to put it softly, position, that , say, pugachev was dragged in a cage to the chopping block 'randomly' and 'anybody could have' ?
mircea_popescu: same is true for all the great heroes of socialism, whether they died in bed or in prison.
mircea_popescu: what do you propose killed the recently discussed yehzov, his "incorrect actions at mit" ?
asciilifeform: for people who aren't mircea_popescu -- these are very real problem.
asciilifeform: i suppose if you're mircea_popescu , you can describe the problem of folx for whom bank acct being zeroed, blacklisting from employment, declared outlaw, as 'imaginary'.
mircea_popescu: and existence is predicated on intelligence, and mit never had one. it's just a humongous pile of printed dollars, the us-style equivalent of the chinese "sovereign funds".
mircea_popescu: you don't put an anti-prng in the fg. why should any of the ai people put an anti-mit or a f(mit) however defined in their behaviour ?
mircea_popescu: doing "the opposite" or "moving to garage", or anything, ANYTHING WHATSOEVER that in any way is biased by the mit is no go.
mircea_popescu: and so on. how long do i need to extend this before it catches ? ~~~NOTHING~~~ the monkeys say is interpreted. at all, in any way, to any degree, never.
mircea_popescu: they then decided sussman isn't welcome either ; eventually they had to make a new "lab", to alleviate both the problem of their pretense to sovereignity, and of the people not caring what they say
mircea_popescu: for random reasons mit decides minsky is no longer allowed in the building ; sussman gave him his key card.
asciilifeform: different when actual money on the table.
mircea_popescu: mit says minksy must use the color green. minsky ignored. mit spent 500 politruk-hours to discern whether he even did what they said or not ; came up with either of these. minsky still ignored.
asciilifeform: ( every so often, you see zeks who 'i'ma build anyway'; recall recent case, john carmack, and his ocular thing. built company , popular gadget, then the patent trolls show up; now they own it. )
mircea_popescu: otherwise, just rinse and repeat.
mircea_popescu: other than what we've been fucking doing ? sure, why the hell not. the people involved build the thing ; when mit said some things, they ignored them altogether. give me some examples of thins mit said and i could just ignore for your edification ?
mircea_popescu: nope. they could have simply ignored anything to do with the mit itself ; and then let the mit-tards figure out ON THEIR OWN TIME what's going on.
asciilifeform: i suppose they could have ran off to su and tried to persuade brezhnev to build a lispm ?
asciilifeform: these folx were playing by the 'free world'(tm)(r) rules, with the patent and copyright etc claptrap. so naturally 'by mit rules'
mircea_popescu: do you eat bananas like a fucking orc, in "certain ways" that are "spiritual" according to the imaginary bananashamans ?
mircea_popescu: do you ask the banana how it wants to be eaten ?
mircea_popescu: that is not the objection.
asciilifeform: they did, neh
a111: Logged on 2018-05-14 22:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: good thread, and notes, but the central q is still unresolved in my head -- argument is that 'they should have left mit and built the machine, in a garage, in zimbabwe ( so as to avoid paying license fee )' ? or 'should have built it without having ever been at mit' ? or which
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-14#1813338 << neither of these. should have simply built, ignored the pantsuit wrangling altogether.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 21:11 phf: mcclim always reminds me of how rms was planning on competing with symbolics by reimplementing everything they had on top of gnu platform. that was the goal. only a handful people who actually worked with a genera realize how "special" the result of rms's work was.
asciilifeform: the other nitpick is with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-09#1640940 , but iirc i registered objection at the time ( 'gnu' was nowhere even in sight when the events in question took place, the mushroom's 'i will reimplement IT ALL!' was a flowered-up recollection of his employment at lmi, one of the 3 mit licensee corps )
asciilifeform: and as for the set of 'lord kelvin' ('i was born into money AND i like to experiment') : was ~null set. at least as evidenced by the results.
asciilifeform: there were no medici to go to, in 1974, no.
asciilifeform: by the time of the bolix escapades, it was a done deal, if you wanted to build heavy experimental gear with substantial upfront cost and no clear market prospect -- you went to a kolhoz (e.g. mit) and prayed that they'd take .
a111: Logged on 2018-05-13 17:07 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812937 << farming is NOT AMENABLE to any other kind of farming. the pretense to "independent farmers" is how the pantsuit chicks got the less able men off the cattle growing, you understand. the notion of "independent farmer" is a hallucination exactly like the notion of "successful starlet", sold by the press of a commercial concern for a commercial interest. hollywood WANTED a bunch of gir
asciilifeform: and if so, the folx in su who built lunar lander, also should have done it in a garage ? instead of with dirty ckkpss moneys ? or not ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: good thread, and notes, but the central q is still unresolved in my head -- argument is that 'they should have left mit and built the machine, in a garage, in zimbabwe ( so as to avoid paying license fee )' ? or 'should have built it without having ever been at mit' ? or which
mircea_popescu: really bitch ? the data processor was a computer ? ZI SA MORI TU\
asciilifeform: bbbbut how couldja not take an interest in the SEEKRIT MASONIC magic offer!111
asciilifeform also, ftr, doesn't see PM in real time ( they queue )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: http://aaronrogier.net/voy00.PDF.gpg << Send them this. Hopefully it saves a trip and get it here sooner.
FreeMASON: then i leave
BingoBoingo: Aite, found the textpaste dump. Tomorrow when I have the cedula in hand, will scan. Reply to that message with the scans, we can see if it shows up Wednesday.
asciilifeform: i have nfi, incidentally, how long they hold'em
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: how do you know that it is at the airport ? << That's where Aduanas holds things.
asciilifeform: ( there were no magic numbers or otherwise crate-specific info in any of the crapola )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i pasted whole thing here, it is in the log
BingoBoingo: Could you forward those messages to me somehow, because the tracking page only shows where the package has been.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: how do you know that it is at the airport ?
BingoBoingo: The papers where they asked you for the ID and such? Whose name was on the package as the recipient, etc...
asciilifeform: it has motherfucking PREPAID import tax
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Wednesday morning I plan on heading to the airport. Was there any other paperwork besides the tracking page that might aid the cause of getting the package released?
BingoBoingo: No further information required: "Now, the Web Platform Incubator Community Group (WICG) at the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), has released details about a browser-specific API for standardizing picture-in-picture interactions that allow websites to open an external "floating video" popup outside the browser window itself. [...] Chrome and Safari have already shipped out the new Picture-in-Picture API."
a111: Logged on 2017-04-10 01:04 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's realy no more to it.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 21:11 phf: mcclim always reminds me of how rms was planning on competing with symbolics by reimplementing everything they had on top of gnu platform. that was the goal. only a handful people who actually worked with a genera realize how "special" the result of rms's work was.
mircea_popescu: anywya, i think ima reprint (and adnotate) the trinque -linked bolix discussion, because i fear it's so concise and the language so tense, nobody, including myself, will understand wtf was being said in a few more years.
a111: Logged on 2014-09-26 17:59 mircea_popescu: none of this "but mp, you never gave any proof". there's your motherfuc king proof now stfu and shine my boots.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-14#1813157 << funny how it's always the unmentionables that fuck the hilarity in the ass.
a111: Logged on 2014-09-26 18:07 asciilifeform: 'to take but one simple example: suppose you thought of the new millennium when you wrote your application back in 1972 -- not only wouldn't you be invited to the party, those who knew you had done it right from the start and who probably laughed at you at the time would positively hate you now, and they sure as hell wouldn't tell people about you. and the more stupid they are, the more important it would be to
asciilifeform: i suspect the thrust is to 'discourage, and push to shitogram' or whatever the latest keybase is called
a111: Logged on 2018-05-14 13:30 asciilifeform: ^ pretty lulzy prehistory -- usg is burning the vuln in the most traditional way, complete with 'responsible disclosure'ism and a boeck-style 'researcher' ; nao spinning in every propaganda organ in unison as 'pgp broken!'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-14#1813139 << pretty much all they're good for. honestly, if they discourage the few remainign morons from sending "pgp-encrypted" email like retards because "thunderbird" i'll be quite happy.
mircea_popescu: venice, for instance, was nominally ended by napoleon, but it actually transformed beyond functionality once charles soldiers got the girls so fucking wet centuries prior.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-14#1813131 << in the specific case of czechoslovakia, they got wet because tanks in prague. now and again "science fiction" pops up containing gender-indeterminate species, which choose a gender by context, "with joe in the room i'm samantha the slut, but when moe's around i'm butch". this is EXACTLY how societies work, they are gendered by context, and sending a bunch of tanks can very well fli
asciilifeform: the war was the formative event of su, taking it from a kind of zimbabwe to -- very briefly -- a serious business.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-14 03:55 trinque: the narcissism of each character is cartoonish, but here we are amidst even more cartoonish pieces of shit claiming their bundle of infantile urges is an identity.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-14#1813129 << in recent trilema terms one could say it captures the moment where patriarchy gave way to matriarchy in one man's mind and coincidentally at the same time in that man's country. this is not altogether a lossy summary, and it betrays literary value in the work.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's an important point in stalin's life, and that is the war. he visibly matured from 1939 to 1943, 1942 even. three years, but he went from being 14 to being 25.
mircea_popescu: but he only had the space to do this because hitler was fucking inept, put the hot iron to the wound for him.\
asciilifeform: that's the interesting bit, stalin 1) ordered the continuing ukr brush war, hushed up 2) proclaimed blanket amnesty for surrendering rebels
asciilifeform: and a major success for the beast.
asciilifeform: there's a reason why may9 is ~the~ surviving national holiday in ru, and culturally the axis on which whole propeller turns.
mircea_popescu: yes, but only because foolishly crosssed the don. see ?
asciilifeform: the german invasion -- integrated (most of them, the exceptions starred in stalin's deportation extravaganza post-war) once and for all.
mircea_popescu: (and no, the dream of "soviet integration" is moscow-only. the russians were tribes, with the georgians about as russian as the small rus')
mircea_popescu: there actually was an indian stalin.
asciilifeform: but, observe, not as result of any unified front with english. ( not that such a thing can even be drawn in this picture, there was no unified 'indian nation' nor a stalin, to make any unified front with anyone. )
mircea_popescu: they will -- because they know in 1940 if they don't they'll be sitting around in 1960 worrying china might come.
mircea_popescu: well this is what's said. take ukraina, but leave russians with the caucasus, and send them to wipe china.
mircea_popescu: by the time white settlers actually followed, 90% of the locals had been shot or displaced.
asciilifeform: no comment re 'average'. and it is not a mystery where their trajectory was after intro to whiskey.
mircea_popescu: you figure the average indian tribe was possessed enough to ~WASTE~ however many galon's worth of whiskey to get a rifle ? no way no how.
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that many of these saw the english as 'yet another tribe' to make/break alliances with
mircea_popescu: i get it, jews are inadherent to history. nevertheless -- indians were part of "alliances" among western powers regularly.
asciilifeform: actually. buncha 'first contact, and they have horses, but never saw english' on record.
mircea_popescu: in the end, this is the only military strategy that EVER worked ; it is how alexander conquered "the world" to the degree of having cesar weep on his tomb ; it's how the mongol horde worked, it's how the "shocking" ottoman empire worked, it's how war works when it does.
mircea_popescu: anyway, amusingly enough had the german strategy employed so far been employed consistently (ie, stopped at the don, offered the russians military help to go conquer china), we'd most likely be drinking bavarese altogether.
mircea_popescu: hey, it was the history ever since.
mircea_popescu: it's not so hard to take ammo production figures for 1940, multiply by 10k, divide by russian land surface and look at the figure.
asciilifeform does not disagree with the above sketch, and afaik it isn't particularly controversial
asciilifeform: nitpick is re the 'know' .
mircea_popescu: (and about half the general staff knew or suspected as much, too)
mircea_popescu: germany was doomed once it broke the pact. they didn't know ; neither did the russkies know (not even stalin, he just got lucky, but lucky with brown underwear). and the british self-importantly gave their ex-contender in the great race two weeks. but by the time they crossed the don, the germans were doomed.
mircea_popescu: this was never the contention.
mircea_popescu: and no, the poles were never going to be the sioux at any point past about 1100. the generalplan ost was late by about eight centuries -- and this is ENTIRELY unsuperable.
mircea_popescu: obviously "everyone was mentally inadherent to reality" -- but the first set produced the bible and the nth set were called john smith.
mircea_popescu: this is not true, which is why boston is not darien. it's true that the original colony was eaten by wolves in both cases ; but one in 1600 and the other in 1800, see.
asciilifeform: if cards had fallen slightly differently -- then yes, poles == sioux.
asciilifeform: must note, that everybody who stands up and tries to build something, or colonize a continent, or do pretty much anything substantial, is 'rebelling against reality'. it only gets counted as 'eh, he went against The Way World Worx'(tm)(r) if he fails.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's actually a lot of substance to the rooseveltian-socialist "the hitler-socialists were pretty divorced from reality" claims / agitprop. even if not usually the substance they'd like there to be.
asciilifeform: it is not much of a mystery, what was planned there. complete with specific references to 'like the indians'
mircea_popescu: this is true, actually. generalplan ost was some choice rib of insanity re political sociobiology. they were gonna make a New Bavaria in odessa like "the englishers" had made New York in missisiauga
asciilifeform: there's a common set of jokes from su, q: 'if only we let germany win, we'd be drinking bavarian! riding in mercedes!' a: '... yes, ride in mercedes. but -- as the leather seat.'
mircea_popescu: note however that "moscow whip" is a very dubious item altogether, at least in the case of actually authoritarian regimes. ceausescu drove gorby mad with his "what apologize, you fucking apologize, fucker, i wasn't there."
mircea_popescu: funny, it seems to me about half of them grasp, on some level. one in six or so even arguably states some variant. but then again i mostly read the french/ro/czech/jugo set rather than the russian/polish/whatever. there is some north/south division among the stalinvictims vaguely similar to the east/west division of zee franks.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm still waiting to run across the kundera, solzhenitsyn, or the like, whose work shows any symptoms of grasping that 1) 'free world' was a cheap scam 2) switching moscow whip for washington whip won't improve anything 3) the uppity orcs will lose whatever sovereignty, industrial civ level, etc. they have under sov colonization, when (2) happens , and remain sad and dependent
mircea_popescu: it certainly is the fundamental public purpose for the blog : it illuminates where the author is, currently, so the other can direct fire. (the private purpose is exactly the same : it illuminates where the author was at some arbitrarily selected point in the past, so the same author can, later in life, interact with more of himself than his memory provides).
mircea_popescu: on the contrary, it opened up an opportunity for the above discussion. or more in general : activity is never wasted, even if it rarely delivers what it seemed it will.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, i can't see why not. you just shouldn't have expected to get all that much from it, which i don't gather you had expected. so no harm no foul.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, allergy is always unfortunate. for instance item such as http://trilema.com/2011/voi-ce-ati-facut-in-viata-asta-ba/#selection-37.0-41.102 can't possibly be comprehended without a comprehensive read of the fellow in question (emil cioran).
mircea_popescu: they were fucking tuna cans, what. you'd die in there at a light breeze exactly like steel helmeted ww1 monkeys.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-31 17:21 asciilifeform: incidentally in what country are there cabs with back seat passenger arm rest ?
mircea_popescu: it always sums, neh ? but i don't think anyone living today can imagine what, specifically, "jalopy" means. considering the ~author~ couldn't : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-31#1778955
mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, driving casualties existed in the 80s among warsaw pact signatories ; and yes "speed unadjusted to driving conditions" was universally blamed.
mircea_popescu: which yes, very much kills, take the case of http://trilema.com/2014/the-disadvantages-of-living-among-idiots/
mircea_popescu: EXCEPT, i survived it in a 90s mercedes, not in a 70s lada (this thing : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808320 ), and moreover first responders were there in five minutes not in two hours and a half.
mircea_popescu: it's fucking true! the dirt roads of behind the iron curtain barely permitted 35. and yes, i miself survived a crash at twice the speed. so wtf were they thinking ?
mircea_popescu: in any case, it's what makes danielpbarron 's review thoroughly horrible : he tries to watch the already juiced matter (no, the film of the book wasn't very good, because americans) with completely ahistoric eyes, and wonders how they managed to die in car crash on those roads, you can barely go 35.
mircea_popescu: the so called "80s generation".
mircea_popescu: cetera etcetera, it's a whole pile there, with solidarnosc raisins in a light samizdat confit.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-14 03:54 trinque: danielpbarron: eh you know, I was going to call the book the (apparent) movie is based upon garbage, but gears began to turn, and if recollection serves, the thing's a passable depiction of what happens to meaning in the aftermath of destroyed structures of authority, a la mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-14#1813128 << milan kundera isn't the end-all be-all of anything. however, he is a representative of a milieu (by which we mean, historical context + group construction, ie wot+varietyspeak+etc) and can't be meaningfully approached (which means, dismissed, either) if one's not familiar. from adam michnik to http://trilema.com/2011/ahahahahahaaaaa/ http://trilema.com/2011/pauldimir-gosmaneanu/ et
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/italian-election-five-star-and-the-league-nearing-coalition-deal/ << Qntra - Italian Election: Five Star And The League Nearing Coalition Deal
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: most famous from the saddam h hanging tape, where the crowd chanted his name
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/iraq-election-muqtada-al-sadr-getting-the-win/ << Qntra - Iraq Election: Muqtada al-Sadr Getting The Win
BingoBoingo: Take heart, this is not the only mega-lol in today's magazine
asciilifeform: the footnotes of the 'paper', also lulzy, full of marlinspike, boeck, etc. 'why pgp is dead' articles
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: paste ? ( i can't be arsed to read the d00d's www )
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ pretty lulzy prehistory -- usg is burning the vuln in the most traditional way, complete with 'responsible disclosure'ism and a boeck-style 'researcher' ; nao spinning in every propaganda organ in unison as 'pgp broken!' << Apparently @hanno has a take on this too that sums to the rest of the party line "who could be using this with hygeine?"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform's take, is already in the log, above.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mirrolade, etc and other lulz are kinda why I would like to see the asciilifeform take on this one
BingoBoingo: Today is shapping up to be a heavy lulz day in the early going between Italy and Iraqi politics
asciilifeform: interesting lulgem from the paper, 'An email client receiving a PGP-signed message may try to automatically download the corresponding public key.' << i never used 'pgp for lusers' emailtrons and had nfi. would explain one obvious modality for the 'mirrorolade' item
asciilifeform: ^ pretty lulzy prehistory -- usg is burning the vuln in the most traditional way, complete with 'responsible disclosure'ism and a boeck-style 'researcher' ; nao spinning in every propaganda organ in unison as 'pgp broken!'
a111: Logged on 2014-08-16 02:27 mircea_popescu: by now i can sorta distinguish the noobs from the veterans because the noobs send me gpg blobs with "Content-Type: multipart/mixed;" mixed in, whereas the veterans just neatly paste the pgp in the email body.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-16#798008 lulz : http://efail.de >> '... abuse vulnerabilities in the specification of OpenPGP and S/MIME to exfiltrate the plaintex...'
ben_vulpes: esthlos: it is very useful to leave them around; the kb wasted in /tmp are negligible and useful in edge case failures
trinque: it's been ten years since I cracked Kundera, couldn't say whether he intended said depiction, or it's just my own digestive process that says so
trinque: the narcissism of each character is cartoonish, but here we are amidst even more cartoonish pieces of shit claiming their bundle of infantile urges is an identity.
trinque: danielpbarron: eh you know, I was going to call the book the (apparent) movie is based upon garbage, but gears began to turn, and if recollection serves, the thing's a passable depiction of what happens to meaning in the aftermath of destroyed structures of authority, a la mircea_popescu
a111: Logged on 2018-05-13 20:01 asciilifeform: or, p. 1., 'question' xviii, '...why do not witches become rich? Secondly, why, having the favour of princes, do they not co-operate for the destruction of all their enemies? Thirdly, why are they unable to injure Preachers and others who persecute them?
mod6: Thanks for the help all.
mircea_popescu: afaik the idea is to go to our own rsa eventuyally anyway
esthlos: question for all: should the gnupg temp files be deleted in all_ cases of a failed press? perhaps someone might want it for debugging?
deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2018/the-unbearable-lightness-of-being/ << Daniel P. Barron - The Unbearable Lightness of Being
BingoBoingo: And I found the green Rio de la Plata parrots on Trilema http://trilema.com/2016/peruvian-immigrants-argentine-natives/
asciilifeform: For the first, it is to be said that witches are not generally rich for this reason: that the devils like to show their contempt for the Creator by buying witches for the lowest possible price.'
asciilifeform: or, p. 1., 'question' xviii, '...why do not witches become rich? Secondly, why, having the favour of princes, do they not co-operate for the destruction of all their enemies? Thirdly, why are they unable to injure Preachers and others who persecute them?
asciilifeform: e who see them are deluded in the way we have said. For a certain man tells that, when he had lost his member, he approached a known witch to ask her to restore it to him. She told the afflicted man to climb a certain tree, and that he might take which he liked out of the nest in which there were several members. And when he tried to take a big one, the witch said: You must not take that one; adding, because it belongs to a parish pr
asciilifeform: 'And what, then, is to be thought of those witches who in this way sometimes collect male organs in great numbers, as many as twenty or thirty members together, and put them in a bird's nest, or shut them up in a box, where they move themselves like living members, and eat oats and corn, as has been seen by many and is a matter of common report? It is to be said that it is all done by devil's work and illusion, for the senses of thos
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in euroclassics, the ~original~ malleus ( http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/mm has decent engl. trans. ) is actually pretty great. e.g. :
mircea_popescu: rat lacks the capacity for work. it can do "work" in the physical sense, of ef-delta-dee. but in the social sense, work is directed activity not merely activity undirected.
mircea_popescu: see, there's a difference between work and activity. they're not completely inactive, yes, but they do no work. cuz work is when you know what's gonna come out. if you don't know what's gonna come out, it's fucking not work.
mircea_popescu: they get fifty, run them all, pick whichever result looks least banged up and there, that's gonna be their wife now.
asciilifeform: ( try and, one day, build one of their supposed 'just worx, run script!' lol )
asciilifeform: lol script. these people spend all day, erry day, fiddling with the products of one another's dysfunctional hands growing from arse
mircea_popescu: they'll just download a script
asciilifeform: i suspect (but cannot prove) that there is at least a trace of underlying thought of 'so suppose he's telling the truth. nao wat? throw away mit diploma? eat pistol? eat from dumpsters?'