a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 21:46 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in ~factory~ machinery, afaik the trend's been quite the opposite ( small manufacturers of ic existed in 1970s by the thousand, in 1980s -- by the hundred, today -- gone. )
asciilifeform: Mocky: hardware is in an ever more dire state, than before, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806757 , 0 progress afaik anywhere at all on the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806521 front
Mocky: asciilifeform, I must to confess to having been a reader of your blog years ago for a short time. but you seemed so bitter about the state of hardware and future prospects. maybe just my perception.
asciilifeform: the closest runner-up contender was standard ml, but it demands a ~MB-sized runtime , and imposes gc , nobody is ever stuffing it into 32kB.
asciilifeform: Mocky: it was the one item left standing when asciilifeform went methodically through list of all known prog langs , and crossed off anything that didn't : bounds-check, operate free of gc, produce compact binaries for e.g. microcontrollers, support all major cpu archs , have written standard.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 15:16 asciilifeform: the other thing to remember, is that the win from writing in ada - but not in ada in general, but the style demonstrated in ffa in particular -- remains even if YOU HAVE NO ACCESS TO GNAT and gotta compile by hand into asm. because it forces the style of algo that CAN be safely so expressed - i.e. without presumption of pointerolade arithmetic, gc, or other cost-externalizing electrosocialisms
asciilifeform: ( folx-on-the-periphery-of-l1 : might be a good use of coupla hrs to dredge the logs for 'why ada' material that could point n00bz to, e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682480 )
asciilifeform: afaik boeing's passenger craft division is the last major usgdom holdout where still used
asciilifeform: Mocky: funnily enuff, it was resisted ( by lockheed et al, the whole golden toilet 'industry' ) from ~day1, and is pretty much dead in usgdom ( with respect to new contracts ) , the brass began to succumb to 'use cpp + massmarket programmertards + these-here-fancy-auditing-toolz-that-totally-work-we-promise in 1990 or so)
Mocky: speaking of plot twists, pretty surprised by the Ada usage. I pictured usg.DOD-design-by-committee lang commissioned to help build out the chumpatronic-mass-programmer infrastructure for gov contracts. I guess it's time to reevaluate my priors.
Mocky: yeah he sounded so smart and clear thinking, but in the end ,spoiler alert, cryogenics and save the world from evil ai, wtf!
mircea_popescu: what did you like ? my knowledge is limited (by disinterest) and centered on his (very "romanian blogger"-like) failure to conceptualize / engage http://trilema.com/2015/the-harry-potter-challenge/
Mocky: i read yudkowski and liked, went to less wrong 'community' and was bunch of tards ingrouping the hell out of eachother
mircea_popescu: nobody said the devil doesn't have a nice, thick, pleasant penis. the problem with the devil isn't that EVERYTHING is wrong.
mircea_popescu: well, "lesswrong" included. dood's checked all the checkboxes. recovery should have been impossible, if one credits the "merituous recovery" theory of recovery.
Mocky: i wont touch a mac, so lets not even go there
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 17:09 mircea_popescu: Mocky, incidentally, where have you been keeping yourself ? you're the strangest mix, windows head on one hand, not even cursorily cognizant of the many different small fixes to that problem, nevertheless http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815460
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: how about instead of making the female worldview the male mental default and physical females socially unacceptable, we go about the other fucking way around! LIKE SANE PEOPLE!
mircea_popescu: if you think about it, what we're ~even fixing~ about computers is EXACTLY this : god damned, maintenance ? the whole "please upgrade" bs started exactly when the female worldview became socially acceptable.
mircea_popescu: it's an important fucking difference, "maintenance -- when i want ; not when it's needed. it's never needed". this is very much a male ideal, viz both the eastern ( http://trilema.com/2014/the-battlefield-of-the-future/#selection-93.458-93.517 ) and the western ( http://trilema.com/2016/mochila-o-muerte/#selection-87.64-99.1 ). this all follows from men being, well... http://trilema.com/2016/a-complete-theory-of-politics/#sel
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, well, certainly the first pretentious. lots and lots of stone soups in the history of human poverty.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 16:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815470 << inca was the first slave empire. (here, "slave" is the republican term of art, not the imperial term of art. it denotes something akin to "everyone living in socialism" or "the products of a bureaucratic state", the guys populating 1984.)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 22:24 mircea_popescu: "This is not a guide to a correct Eulora build on Windows. Its the story of how someone did it while knowing virtually nothing about the tools, language or project. For all I know, its the worst way to do it that ends up working. " << i really like how this dood's mind is organized.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, incidentally, where have you been keeping yourself ? you're the strangest mix, windows head on one hand, not even cursorily cognizant of the many different small fixes to that problem, nevertheless http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815460
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 16:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815467 << kalash, short for the ak-47, denotes a cheap and effective weapon. it is specifically designed for effective mass production ; and to whitstand intensive field use in burst mode. whenever an item has the "task at hand and no shits given" spirit, it stands the kalash metaphore.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: бyтaфopия typically refers to a physical accessory of a sham, in the movie set / potemkin village sense
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, in ro it's approx "papier mache" in the direct. ie, indistinct glue and crap used to make cheap theatrical decors.
mircea_popescu: and since we're doing words, might also propose the great "butaforie" (ru бyтaфopия).
asciilifeform: i also did not notice fwiw until he pointed where in the film.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i hadn't even noticed that. i dun think i ever actually watched it that far in. srsly Mocky, it's a somewhat common term in hacker culture. esp the ru set.
mircea_popescu: the problem with it is how very fucking feminine it is. IT IS THE GIRLS!!!! that are supposed to spend hours in the mirror with the colored things, "getting ready", all the while mulling over in their mind how they're getting raped later on and how it'll go and so on.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 17:27 mircea_popescu: of course, most of this "money" isn't much more substantial than the imaginary fortunes of adolescents cycling through their fantasy business career after fapping and pre falling asleep.
mircea_popescu: there's this big great temptation to "prepare", like getting up a website, finding a new name, doing a WHOLE lot of adolescentine http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563435 masturbation.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 20:04 mircea_popescu: dude, just call. nevermind the "questions" and rest of the crap. spend 1/10 of the time you frittered away already "on" this to call, write up your report, "i, pete d, aspiring to one day lordship, spent 8 hours today cold calling. i managed a total of 76 calls, which would get me fired from the average call center but hey, i'm new. these 76 calls went to so and so, here's the script, here's why i ammended it and when, here's
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 14:11 mircea_popescu: well, why not kick him while he's down. so, ben_vulpes , do you understand the meaning of "They know how to work those" in http://trilema.com/2013/attention-cunt/#selection-37.37-37.64 ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, there was some proposal to shadow the name, but it got rejected. basically pete_dushenski spent a few months doing the entire http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813477 thing himself, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651459
a111: Logged on 2012-09-06 19:10 Chaang-Noi: im a goat mother fuckers!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i seem to recall there was somebody who bought a few units and tried to resell with some name of his own making ( pete_dushenski ? ) and didn't seem to help him. so magic is not only in the name, it seems
mircea_popescu: not sure why, not like i specifically expected her to be successful. they're where they are because not very intelligent, not for other reasons.
Mocky: i thought it was a stretch but alfred at timecode ~5:00 is the only other place i can remember seeing the term
mircea_popescu: actually, she got excited, was gonna help the boys get out of idiocy, but then she didn't manage and never came back.
asciilifeform: the film imho was notbad, and then she even showed up here and said ~nothing substantial, and then fell again through the floor
lobbesbot: jurov: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the ~idea~ was to name it something that'll make it impossible for the idiots to ~even think about it~.
mircea_popescu: was it mine ? in that case absolutely not related, i definitely only heard of the alfred thing after you said something.
asciilifeform: i dun recall the string being in 'alfred' tho
asciilifeform: iirc the convo was approx : asciilifeform : it's ready, nao what should we call it mircea_popescu : how about FUCKGOATS asciilifeform : loox good, let's
a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 02:45 asciilifeform: 'chukcha wrote a book. we open the book: pg 1: 'man got on a horse.' pg . N : 'man got off horse' pg . 2 .. N-1 : 'tgdyk, tgdyk, tdgyk...' '
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 15:19 BingoBoingo: Mocky: I don't remember a settled term for spear chuckers. Kalash's are sufficiently in circulation that literal spear chucking isn't much of a thing anymore. We do rip on societies here that remain pre-spearchucking in development like the Italians though.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-16 23:00 asciilifeform: asciilifeform notices that his desk has an uncanny resemblance to the one in 'ascension of alfred'
mircea_popescu: aanyway; there's a buncha alfreds in the logs ( http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=alfred ), including http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473532 ; but it'd seem the republic only heard of the item in question in 2017 : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-16#1671175
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-05#1563132 << check it out, first log mention of fg is nov 5th 2016 ; fwicd the alfred thing was early now 2016. THE THEORY CAN NOT BE READILY DISPELLED!
mircea_popescu: it certainly predates the chick showing up here
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 04:14 Mocky: I'm also curious if fuckgoats had its name inspired by the ascent of alfred
mircea_popescu: much like europe nearly drowned in the mongol invasion ; but europe very much wasn't inca, but polar opposite.
mircea_popescu: but yes, they thought they're the bees' knees', got wiped by the ~marginal~ elements of an onslaught. they weren't even fucking central.
mircea_popescu: look up its history sometime, it's instructively amusing. (no, "progress" and "change" and blablabla avatars of rooseveltian socialism aren't in any sense NOVEL. they're fucking ancient, reversion to pre-literate society.)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 03:53 Mocky: and also 'inca' is that like "group thinks they are a pinnacle-of-the-world civ but about to get wiped out" or just like "spear chuckers" ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815470 << inca was the first slave empire. (here, "slave" is the republican term of art, not the imperial term of art. it denotes something akin to "everyone living in socialism" or "the products of a bureaucratic state", the guys populating 1984.)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 03:49 Mocky: reading the logs - I'm trying to understand how 'kalash' is being used here. I don't see it in http://trilema.com/2016/republican-thesaurus-with-vocabulary-and-dictionary/ maybe it's a common thing I just haven't heard of. The use seems consistent with https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kalash
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815467 << kalash, short for the ak-47, denotes a cheap and effective weapon. it is specifically designed for effective mass production ; and to whitstand intensive field use in burst mode. whenever an item has the "task at hand and no shits given" spirit, it stands the kalash metaphore.
mircea_popescu: seems very transparently the issue to me.
mircea_popescu: unting+of+their+foul+acts+and+opinions+before+the+world+must+stop%22 ploy, ie, "pick a mommy among our number, and we'll produce where she says you're notgood.jpg" ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, btw, i'm curious : has your fish friend figured out the "He admits he cannot name one other Christian leader outside his own little band of followersanyone who has lived in the two millennia between the death of the last apostle and the advent of Darwin Fishwho has remained faithful to the truth." bla bla bla "criticism" is very strictly a http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22there+was+a+limit+where+the+fla
BingoBoingo: Irony of ironies, Thursday and Friday when I was enrolling in the healthcare association were the days where the cold/bronchitis/pneumonia had crossed the line into feeling over with.
mod6: Ah, sure. Doin kinda the same here.
BingoBoingo: Not too bad. The sky is doing that thing where it gets the ground wet, stops, and then wets the ground just as it is about to dry.
BingoBoingo: Mocky: I don't remember a settled term for spear chuckers. Kalash's are sufficiently in circulation that literal spear chucking isn't much of a thing anymore. We do rip on societies here that remain pre-spearchucking in development like the Italians though.
Mocky: I'm also curious if fuckgoats had its name inspired by the ascent of alfred
lobbes: more the former
Mocky: and also 'inca' is that like "group thinks they are a pinnacle-of-the-world civ but about to get wiped out" or just like "spear chuckers" ?
a111: Logged on 2015-11-11 04:55 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/205fc2394e3169753298a37dfdaf8032/tumblr_n71q0qKyOs1r59rt8o1_1280.jpg
Mocky: reading the logs - I'm trying to understand how 'kalash' is being used here. I don't see it in http://trilema.com/2016/republican-thesaurus-with-vocabulary-and-dictionary/ maybe it's a common thing I just haven't heard of. The use seems consistent with https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kalash
Mocky: not quite the same idea, but maybe it triggers a line of thought
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:56 asciilifeform: if other folx have thought re subj -- plox to write in.
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815228 years ago there were sites that would crack a windows login for you if you paste in the hash. rainbow tables I expect. It would take about 10 seconds most of the time, but they made you wait 3 days. Or get it now for a price. Not sure if that appeals
mircea_popescu: "This is not a guide to a correct Eulora build on Windows. Its the story of how someone did it while knowing virtually nothing about the tools, language or project. For all I know, its the worst way to do it that ends up working. " << i really like how this dood's mind is organized.
mircea_popescu: and i'm pretty sure the realization is spreading faster than they are. why would anyone bother to "keep the populace content" in 2018 ? to what exactly, get type A twitter storms ?
ben_vulpes: even some of the baisc ones.
mircea_popescu: it's not so much that "the shelves are empty". it's that the shelves aren't worth filling. not for these dorks.
ben_vulpes: ah shoot, thank you. the finer points have slipped away.
mircea_popescu: the sooner the spare fucktards understand nobody wants them, the better for everyone.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 21:34 fettiffany: they all complain, they march and protest but it's useless.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815419 << hey, chaves has a very nice thing going : some working oil rigs, and a bunch of spare fucktards. he's getting rid of the spare fucktards whilke keeping the oil rigs going.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815398 << gusta. gustan if there were 2 maduros ; but with the s it rather means "why don't you taste yourself some". "porque no te gustas esta picha" = "why don't you have a lick".
mircea_popescu: unlike me, dogs generally think it's worth their time to eat shit.
mircea_popescu: hanbot, by being the sort of imbecile that had no business existing in the first place and then going http://trilema.com/2018/the-retards-handshake/#selection-163.0-167.2 at them.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: That's why it's news. Part of the collapse freakshow.
mircea_popescu: but in general, the surest way to ensure the deepest level of hatred that can be summoned in any situation is to pretend to things outside purview. dumbos claiming to be "presidents" etc just about do it.
hanbot: how the fuck do you get killed by daschunds?!
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 21:10 ben_vulpes: funny how deeply the actual people notionally represented by the soi disant speakers for the people hate said speakers
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815363 << it's not a site, silly. it's like the parliament.
mircea_popescu: you're too nice, yo. the 2nd line in the "trust, but verify" cuneiform manual is "answer the door, answer, but with nailed club."
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 20:29 mod6: See, this is why I never answer the door.
fettiffany: hat's the worst, they spend their time complaining about inflation and dollar today (it's a page that puts the prices of the dollar and the euro at black market prices) and they are selling dollars and bitcoins or satoshis at exaggerated prices. they complain when they are supporting corruption
ben_vulpes: fettiffany: are folks buying/selling bitcoins and dollars? how are folks defending against the inflation
fettiffany: According to Diosdado they were going to charge a percentage of the remittances that family members made to Venezuela. and that's a steal
fettiffany: 153/5000 since hugo chavez entered the presidency venezuela was decaying every day, until he died and left the piece of shit that is today president
BingoBoingo: fettiffany: From what I understand they get it in the mail from people outside the country and the mail gets stolen in transit.
trinque: sure, but do most people say "boohoo, govt needs to stock the shelves", "fuck the government" or both?
fettiffany: et's see. in 2012 there was an economic crisis in venezuela, but you still went to the supermarket and got products. Today 2018 in the supermarkets there is nothing and if you get a product the price is equivalent to a minimum salary. How are people supposed to eat, buy medicine or clothes?
trinque: fettiffany: I'm curious, how widespread is the realization in venezuela that "socialism is crap"?
BingoBoingo: hanbot: What else can they read?
hanbot: "'I'm ready for the battle, ready to make history," the 55-year-old politician bellowed at his final campaign rally in Caracas on Thursday, where he was flanked by the Argentinian football star Diego Maradona and wore a pickle-coloured shirt emblazoned with the image of Hugo Chavez." (via archive.is/YSHZF) << pickle-coloured shirt, eh? methinks the guardian's been reading BingoBoingo's blog lol
hanbot: ben_vulpes if they could mean for the people but not speak for them, then they'd have somethin' by george.
ben_vulpes: funny how deeply the actual people notionally represented by the soi disant speakers for the people hate said speakers
hanbot: ah. tenemos varios personas aqui que hablan espanol, pero normalmente si, hablamos en ingles. i asked you if the "declaration" you read a couple times made any sense to you, and in general what your hobbies/jobs are.
hanbot: fettiffany what's your mother tongue (first language)?
ben_vulpes: fettiffany: here's some more context http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt
fettiffany: so, i don't see the need to register
mod6: See, this is why I never answer the door.
mod6: Mr. P. may help you through this process, I dunno. This is genrally the steps for newbs tho.
mod6: Ah, gotcha. Well, generally, if you want to be a person, you need to get yourself a key and register with deedbot. Then you can self-voice, and participate. As one does.
mod6: And I don't think it's whatever USD. Per the conversation it's $5000 USD worth of BTC right?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/airstrip-one-to-arm-rural-police-as-insecurity-grips-the-land-of-ingsoc/ << Qntra - Airstrip One To Arm Rural Police As Insecurity Grips The Land Of Ingsoc
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the lullicus maxiumus, http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factor/5332 >> 1) it's a prime 2) it's a... i'ma leave this as exercise for the reader !
BingoBoingo: I like the part in dude's fever dream where hash functions just "come" with "more advantages"
asciilifeform: e.g. 'We don't need another slow, secure hash function' , 'no compelling advantage ', 'I don't feel that solving length-extension is a sufficiently pressing concern that we should all invest in SHA-3 now, rather than a hash function that hopefully comes with more advantages' , etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: looks like some substantial number of distinct glyphs, rather than any compositing system
BingoBoingo: What are the glyphs, I see generic unicode noise character
asciilifeform: i suspect that asciilifeform wins the 'most vintage unupdated linuxen' prize
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815264 << interestingly, i had to turn on a crapple box, to finally see the glyphs
douchebag: also i'd like to note he's going to be perma voiced unless the bot was updated
douchebag: Anyone know these people?
Mircea_PopeSkew: just hear for the abuse for now.
Mircea_PopeSkew: thx for the +v
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/democracy-sucks-the-two-thousand-four-hundred-and-change-years-old-version/ << Trilema - Democracy sucks, the two thousand four hundred (and change) years old version.
asciilifeform: which is unfortunate; the 'stick' drive is the central handicap of the current scheme.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 00:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815045 << the make food area incidentally is easy to misjudge. it'll make a world of difference, both in qol and what that qol costs, once you get a proper kitchen going. ideally with womanly help as i dunno you're that competent. have bread going every other day, have a pot of soup always, the good old strictures of european ie civilised life.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815144 << This is probable. I've just become rather adapted/maladapted to the hostel life. On the plus side the hostel adaptation is useful for future pathfinding adventures.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Package in enduring the local rite of passage know as waiting in line. By all appearances DHL dorcs and Aduanas orcs should work it out before too long.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:50 mircea_popescu: mod6, you gotta sleep enough. it's of the same ilk as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815080 exactly. the hovel may seem livable ; but it is not.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815210 << 2018, The Republic learns self care and organization
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:23 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815082 << i was able to find (after A LOT of expert searching, it is true) furnished apts conveniently located for all the girls ; didn't end up paying much of anything upfrtont either (they wanted a month's rent, i was paying quarterly anyway, so it sorta went away). gotta talk to "the people" (=dueno) though, "agencies" aren't so useful. but there's a 5% of the population that makes ends m
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815157 << This appears to be a thing here too. The search will take some forcing, but it should be possible to cut the agencias out.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 19:28 ben_vulpes: lobbes, and BingoBoingo while i'm at it since i want to get you on the same train, what kind of commission makes sense to you for flogging shared shells?
lobbes: This I am not sure of. My gut says a small percentage of each sale, but I've no idea what constitutes a "standard percentage" here. I am also a) inexperienced in sales, and b) motivated on the basis that the tmsr crisis isn't really over until a profitable Pizarro exists, so I'm pretty open on terms >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814925
mircea_popescu: might be an idea to use a trace of the dood's face. he has an epic "wut ?" face imo.
lobbes: I have the sword and the "P" saved as vector images, so scaling and general fiddling shouldn't be an issue if you want me to
lobbes: I slapped together the following if you'd like to use: http://lobbesblog.com/static/pizarro_demo_logo1.png, http://lobbesblog.com/static/pizarro_demo2_logo2_w_sword.png >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815212
mircea_popescu: pretty interesting device in light of how the current empire works. it's a wonder they didn't discover "it wasn't hillary that lost, but a different hydra of the same name"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, i ended up with a lot of cuneiform syllabusing because check this out : the principal trick of darius was to pretend the person he deposed ~wasn't~, actually, the person they claimed to be. ie, nebuchadnezzar morphed to an impostor (Nedintu-something), bardiya (brother of legitimate persian king) was really "gaumata" etc etc.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 04:20 mircea_popescu: aand in other "shit that wasn't in the logs yet", 𐏃𐎧𐎠𐎶𐎴𐎡𐏁
mircea_popescu: (original name of ye olde persian empire, the thing the greeks fought/emulated, cyrus' creation.)
trinque: I don't think it's good form to litter the COMMON-LISP-USER package with this.
trinque is peeling back the layers trying to see what gpg is cranky about. meanwhile, why'd the (defpackage :v ...) go away?
trinque: file is there, known good, etc
ben_vulpes: https://thehackernews.com/2018/05/signal-desktop-hacking.html << "because the developers used a function literally called 'dangerouslySetInnerHTML' that doesn't escape HTML"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, alright, works then.
mircea_popescu: well, still is. that's the part the dweebs rarely understand : trilema is 10k articles that are as interesting today as they ever were. they imagine just because nobody looks for 2015 huffington post in 2018 and no other sites have the sort of size trilema does besides "news" outlets, that such a thing dun exist. but it does exist -- the bugs luv the blackbody radiations.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: could, but then also would lose the lulz where sad-rsa victims see their name in google outputs
mircea_popescu: how'd you get the 10gb figure ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:16 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, "but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max" << on what basis ? deductive approach from lack of experience ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you could of course put in ye olde mp-wp page limiter, and give all the boecks a very sad surprise.
asciilifeform: if other folx have thought re subj -- plox to write in.
asciilifeform: picture, for instance, the poor mikrotik boxes , for which no fewer than 3 remote-root orifices were published in recent yrs (~on top~ of their phuctoring)
asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if there were any popsicles left to pinch
mircea_popescu: imo the former is a bad move. the 2nd is nb, but meh. someone will go steal someone's popsicle and random posturing dork will go "conspiracy!!!" and i won't care but you'll have to either shoot a "judge" or talk to him.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for thread-completeness, my other notions in re 'for subscribers of phuctor' were , in no particular order : earlier access to new pops (after queue is ready, conceivably give subscribers day, week, etc head start ) ; ability to download generated ~privkeys~ for Fully Phuctored mods , in various formats ; full-text search ; built-in converters ( your item, but it is on the for-everybody conveyor for a while nao )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:36 mod6: BingoBoingo: bud, you need your own place to hang your hat, you're a Lord of the Republic, not a random street orc.
mircea_popescu: mod6, you gotta sleep enough. it's of the same ilk as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815080 exactly. the hovel may seem livable ; but it is not.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:32 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815103 << understand though that the only reason they're surprising is because they weren't handled either properly or in time. there's a lot of leeway in how surprising the sort of predictable surprises are, by being what's called "proactive"
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815181 << it occurs to me that my statmens re surprises are unwarrented. i had only remembered the 1BTC in feb of 19, i somehow entirely forgot the other 7500 a part. so wasn't a surprise, just something that i somehow blocked out.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815174 << yeah, pretty much. just chuckin out possibilities as I hadn't contemplated the matter much. obv.
mod6: sooo hot in there, omg. mod6 in a three-piece and a 40lb backpack.
mircea_popescu: mod6, we were talkign about the cocks being sucked in corners bdsm club thing.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mthreat was there too with some girlies neh ? << chetty too
asciilifeform: rright but even nao people can add these, i posted converter ( and jurov earlier posted )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the ssh key thing. "pay some dough, have the capacity to add ssh keys"
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes : maybe odd q, but do we have a pizarro logotype ? i'd like something in the vein of http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/snsa.jpg to put below same on phuctor www
mircea_popescu: ie, don't discover that a guy who's there at your pleasure is sitting on arms all day long contemplating roaches climb the walls because ~i point it out~, don't be surprised by the attentand morale issues.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 22:46 mod6: So my willingness to keep putting money into this is contingent on whether or not we can even reach profitibility. Which we'll never get there if "raises" and other "surpises" keep coming ujp.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815103 << understand though that the only reason they're surprising is because they weren't handled either properly or in time. there's a lot of leeway in how surprising the sort of predictable surprises are, by being what's called "proactive"
mircea_popescu: well some are better at pickups than others!!!
mircea_popescu: mthreat was there too with some girlies neh ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, "but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max" << on what basis ? deductive approach from lack of experience ?
asciilifeform: iirc there were : mircea_popescu , hanbot , mike_c , davout, asciilifeform , mod6 , ben_vulpes
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:43 mod6: Yeah, maybe we could commit to some amount now, then build in a bouns structure for sales met or something.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:39 mod6: there's a guy we know in BSAS who can hook you up with a cage and whipping post/cross thing too if you need 'em.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815086 << oh, mod6 was at the fabled conference when we went to the club, wasn't he!
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 23:28 asciilifeform: achtung phuctor readers! about to remove 676 spurious factors ( they equal their moduli, and are factors of no others) from the db; these crept in in late 2016
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, not to extend this cheese omlet too much : it's not the end of the world if shared webhosting remains a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808132 item strictly.
mircea_popescu: well, so they'll fuck people's public_html for them, it's how "don;'t take over box plox" works.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, they fuck your dns zones for you.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:37 BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: help me enumerate these costs? A substantial guarentee upfront (3-6 months rent) and then furnishing the apartment.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815082 << i was able to find (after A LOT of expert searching, it is true) furnished apts conveniently located for all the girls ; didn't end up paying much of anything upfrtont either (they wanted a month's rent, i was paying quarterly anyway, so it sorta went away). gotta talk to "the people" (=dueno) though, "agencies" aren't so useful. but there's a 5% of the population that makes ends m
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nfs ? they dun write html for you or anything of the kind, it's simply an ultraminimal hoster thing (somewhere between vps and plain unixhosting , hard to classify into 1 of the traditional categories)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:36 mod6: BingoBoingo: bud, you need your own place to hang your hat, you're a Lord of the Republic, not a random street orc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815080 << i'm very much of the same mind ; people get used to untenable situations and tend to extend them past due date. but this hostel thing has outlived its utility.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, well, depends what they want. but basically.
ben_vulpes: i can see it opening up the altcoinist scam market for least-effort websites
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 00:24 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814909 << one possible way out of the conundrum is to offer "website design" saas and not even allow box login to the customers.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:33 mod6: Everyone wins: BB gets his raise, and 1 BTC end of feb 2019, and we get to hang on to a bit of cash for the summer to help ouselves out.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815045 << the make food area incidentally is easy to misjudge. it'll make a world of difference, both in qol and what that qol costs, once you get a proper kitchen going. ideally with womanly help as i dunno you're that competent. have bread going every other day, have a pot of soup always, the good old strictures of european ie civilised life.
mircea_popescu: i can see the point, too, "i am so many years old and not getting younger ; if i sit and twiddle my thumbs in this jungle rather than some other jungle it'd better not be just so i end up 40 something and asked "Кто..." and not have an answer"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:56 BingoBoingo: mod6: Well pizarro got billed for the dentist. The doctor is out of my pocket. Part of the idea is getting these things off of Pizarro's line and into my own.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815021 << consider the http://trilema.com/2011/mami-trimite-urgent-de-mincare/#selection-25.584-25.736 classic ; this situation whereby one's paying x with the money for y and y with the ... etc etc is dubious in a 20something girl and unseemly in a 30something man.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:52 ben_vulpes: mod6: doesn't really make a difference to the books, a liability is a liability. it's going to show up on the balance sheet regardless.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815013 << check him out, he understands finance. yes mod6 , once a liability is entered the exact disbursal schedule is relatively a minor point.
mircea_popescu: i know a bunch of people tried this, some of which managed to bootstrap themselves into middle class existences (from humble orc nobodyhood) ; but plenty failing miserably.
mircea_popescu: their only relation to their shared server is a box where they explain to you what they want done.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 19:21 ben_vulpes: the active filtering i'd like to put in is either a regular set of eyeballs (BingoBoingo's, or the mentioned-tangentially sales guy to hire) on the "design" corners of these hosting forums to pm our ads for shells on the shared server to folks who are building websites directly
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814909 << one possible way out of the conundrum is to offer "website design" saas and not even allow box login to the customers.
mircea_popescu: ie, you can have the sale-on-ocmission thing mechanized to some degree.
mircea_popescu: well since you're building lists : there's a thing the heeathens have, which intermediates action sales. "clickbank" or somesuch.
BingoBoingo: Well, yeah. The natural contents of the message would be "Hey, you have an interesting public key. Who is your daddy and what did he teach you?"
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that he could not have used stock gpg ( which won't crank out anything bigger than 8kbit )
asciilifeform: ( why did asciilifeform even pull it out ? it came up in the 'candidates for wiener attack' probe )
asciilifeform: aaaand they're gone.
asciilifeform: this should make the displayed results 100% free of wtf.
asciilifeform: ^ from 2018 ! ( asciilifeform very recently fixed the corner case in bernstein which permitted this kind of thing )
asciilifeform: achtung phuctor readers! about to remove 676 spurious factors ( they equal their moduli, and are factors of no others) from the db; these crept in in late 2016
ben_vulpes: i disqualified some others for ~zero activity in the past two years, but haven't ruled out hostsearch or warriorforum yet
ben_vulpes: great, i mentioned hostingdiscussion.com , webhostingtalk.com, forums.hostsearch.com to you, also warriorforum.com from mircea_popescu's mentions once upon a time. i'll dig up some others as well.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I will start that, also inquire about setting up a corporation, and register accounts on the filter feeding forums so they can start getting some age.
BingoBoingo: But like the IP situation and the BTC/fiat conduit situation, there are limits on how long these discussions can be tabled.
mod6: Alright then.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> Can I get your assurances that this won't come up again for a long time, at least a year or ever? We're just dumping cash. And we're not going to be in business long at all. << You have my assurance. This discussion was started in Februay had been tabled without activity since then. Hence reviving it when we have a path to get to where we need to be, but before we get another infusion of iron down here.
mod6: So my willingness to keep putting money into this is contingent on whether or not we can even reach profitibility. Which we'll never get there if "raises" and other "surpises" keep coming ujp.
mod6: So, BingoBoingo : Sounds like we have most of a plan then.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> yeah, it's fuckin tricky, though. i'm trying to estimate what could reasonably be packed into uy1 from a shared shell and ftp perspective, but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max that box can carry without overbooking it, and if we can get to that point within a year i'll be pleased as punch, as it'll cover a significant fraction of the whole pizarro operation's << Sweet
ben_vulpes: expenses and would be willing to put down a half btc incentive if we hit that. i'm also considering that the apartment rental is going to be maybe 20% more expensive than the combined cowork and bunk, and propose moving some of the end-of-year incentive forward in time to pay for that.
ben_vulpes: yeah, it's fuckin tricky, though. i'm trying to estimate what could reasonably be packed into uy1 from a shared shell and ftp perspective, but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max that box can carry without overbooking it, and if we can get to that point within a year i'll be pleased as punch, as it'll cover a significant fraction of the whole pizarro operation's
mod6: Yeah, maybe we could commit to some amount now, then build in a bouns structure for sales met or something.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:23 BingoBoingo: <mod6> And the per-diem money, if we can get it to "reasonable bump" per month, is a done-deal in my opinion. << I am willing to table the future incentive so you can come up with something more favorable to Pizarro than 1 integer BTC.
mod6: Anyway, ok. So we still need to settle the year-incentive payment.
mod6: there's a guy we know in BSAS who can hook you up with a cage and whipping post/cross thing too if you need 'em.
ben_vulpes: so that's some 800/mo at the bare minimum; an upfront of around 4.8k at that rate
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: help me enumerate these costs? A substantial guarentee upfront (3-6 months rent) and then furnishing the apartment.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> And the per-diem money, if we can get it to "reasonable bump" per month, is a done-deal in my opinion. << I am willing to table the future incentive so you can come up with something more favorable to Pizarro than 1 integer BTC.
mod6: BingoBoingo: bud, you need your own place to hang your hat, you're a Lord of the Republic, not a random street orc.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: help me enumerate these costs?
mod6: And the per-diem money, if we can get it to "reasonable bump" per month, is a done-deal in my opinion.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: there are not insignificant upfront costs iirc
mod6: I do think we should get an apt for him, I've stayed in hostels before and I can't imagine staying there for 6 months.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: am i crazy in trying to push for an apartment for you? << You aren't but the monthly expense of an apartment isn't so different from the hostel+cowork.
ben_vulpes: gotta figure a) whether the apartment thing is crazy for some reason i don't understand b) structure for next years incentive