asciilifeform: 'Unfortunately, some people have used this opportunity to spread some misinformation, claiming that "all passwords have been released". This is not the case; there has been no threat to account security due to this incident. Additionally, we do not store passwords in a recoverable form at all.' << i've a bridge to sell.
asciilifeform: ( consider, why in some chans but not other ? )
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-26 18:13 Neru: Global Notice] Hello freenode, you may have noticed 2 days ago many users got logged out of their NickServ accounts. After our investigation, we have come to the conclusion one or more of our sponsored servers have been compromised. Please change your password IMMEDIATELY. More details are available in #freenode with the command !help
asciilifeform: ( and for some reason they announced it via spamatron ? or whole thing, disinfo? i've neither any idea, nor particularly care... http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-26#363971 )
mircea_popescu: there's 20k or whatever who connect, and 99% of the humans involved are on #trilema, it's ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: anyway. rather than the transparent shenanigans, it is of greater concern that ~no one is on freenode. i mean, the fucktards in #lisp still, TO THIS DAY, haven't yet figured their way out of the paper bag of my asking "hey folk, would you like a candi_lustt ?".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that , and last week's , and at least 1nce between the 2
a111: Logged on 2014-10-14 17:07 asciilifeform: https://www.nccgroup.com/en/blog/2014/10/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2014#807732
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu's pill, of limiting payload mass per shot, is prolly The Right Thing ( tho keep in mind that, given the erratic block production of typical shitfork, it will make for a quite slow and volatile dumping )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i seem to recall electrum being one of those turds that ~nobody was able to get to even build, and ~all of the users used a binturd, which at least 1nce turned out to contain straight back orifice
a111: Logged on 2016-02-19 15:24 mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> so now with https://blog.freenode.net/2016/02/recent-events-and-future-changes/ it is probably a good time to point out that i've been trying to get you people a server for maybe three years now. are you still unable to be helped or has that bad habit of the past changed also ? kloeri ? mist ? or who do i talk to.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-19#1410185 << they wiped the old articles, note this goes to root now
mircea_popescu: especially the 2nd order effect of "mandated post-mortems", none of that inept shit where freenode announces it was nsa infected, promises write-up, then forgets it did and replaces everyone involved.
asciilifeform: sorta like, you dun care necessarily if somebody steals a turd that a bird shat into your garden. but on other hand, if somali pirates steal a tanker of guano from your guano fleet...
mircea_popescu: and if it blows up, in lieu of the product you give the victims a signed full description of what happened.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i guess we can revisit this hypothesis when somebody asks your bot to transmute 100btc worth of shitcoin, and hostile upstream node bamboozles yer electrum into sending it to hitler.
ben_vulpes: once it turns into a real item, aka bitcoin, i care. until then, nop
ben_vulpes: there are things for which i care about maintaining the tree of inputs that resulted in my balance, and there's ephemeral shit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, hey, at least documenting the lulz "everyone knows" where everyone takes value from the set of 5 folk who went to the same state street kindergarten we did...
trinque: I guess asciilifeform never had the proverbial beater car
trinque: because it's an optimization problem with a disposable item as one of the terms
ben_vulpes: the electrum forks make it pretty simple in my experience.
asciilifeform: ( the folx running the 'shitcoin is worth something' theatre, have substantial interest in nobody actually running nodes but themselves , etc , this prolly is obvious to the alert reader )
asciilifeform: setting up nodes to actually do the deed of shitcoin removal and movement, for instance, is ( at least in asciilifeform's experience last summer ) a first class bitch
asciilifeform: sorta was my point : it isn't that no one can build a convenient ( from user pov ) transmutation reactor ! it can be built. but operation will inevitably involve good deal of regular sweat from the operator, negating most of the automation.
asciilifeform: i suspect the result will be interesting mostly as a 'journal of negative results' item. ( gox, for instance, can quietly swallow coin, once it cottons on to who's using api, and why . asciilifeform's acct, last time around, was -- interestingly -- closed by goxkeeper , tho a coupla days too late to have any effect )
mircea_popescu: note that i was talking to jurov. considering he's intelligent and seems maybe interested (hard to tell, he's so quiet), and considering he's not currently doing anything, the marginal cost in republican terms is 0.
asciilifeform: it can be worked around, but game is probably not worth the candles, considering what folx are typically willing to pay for transmuting shitcoin
asciilifeform: they appear to. however they also insist on various idiocies, 'accounts', '2factor'-whatevers, various caltrops to attempt to prevent precisely such automation
mircea_popescu: most of the goxen have "api"s .
asciilifeform: ( obvious problem -- the 'buyers' aint human, they consist solely of goxen, quite likely. still could outsource the chore of ferrying shitcoin to gox, and consider the two subsystems as independent )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 01:08 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ideally interfaces with all the goxen.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was thinking re detail of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819365 : theoretically a pure shitcoin<->btc transmutator, does not need gox in the loop, if shitcoin ~buyers~ could be persuaded to visit it and buy
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 13:31 phf: there's a kind of white trash beach resort area 2 hours driving from dc "ocean city". i've been going there with some friends first day of summer for the past few years for that kitsch americana experience: all you can eat crabs, dirty east coast ocean, trashy girls. perfect :)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819461 << hey, i know a place or two like that around cape cod! though they usually don't get wet.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 13:17 phf: mod6: it's going alright. i have this general fatigue that i'm having hard time shaking off, but i'm going to go to the ocean on friday for a couple of days, which ought to fix me
mircea_popescu: they don't earnestly try. that's the fucking point, when presented a paper car you don't ernestly try to drive it ; when presented a "social justice" truth / "Global warming" science etc religious nonsense you don't earnestly try to verify it. you're supposed to be excited and fucking clap, what the fuck, they're filming the advertising not asking you what you think.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 12:41 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819414 << i could never understand the charges: i always thought that bateman was very earnestly participating in all the games, but it's the world around him that was completely devoid of substance
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819444 << and that's exactly the problem -- he was participating EARNESTLY. he actually tried to do well, and had the wherewithal to do well. he was, if you will, a republican lost in empire.
BingoBoingo: lobbes http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/28/learning-portage-together-building-php-5-6-on-arm64-rockchip-gentoo/#comment-115103
mod6: That is the blog post :]
asciilifeform: mod6 et al : i'm still interested in , at least in theoretical stage, a less-retarded replacement for dieharder
mod6: I do have these ones too for the one hooked up to the rockchip, not sure if interested: http://mod6.net/2018/May/12/rockchip_fg_test.txt
lobbes: BingoBoingo: I left a comment on yer guide re: php5.6 shitgnomes deprecating mysql in favor of mysqli. (Should be in queue). This will be a boon indeed if we can string all the quirks of mp-wp-on-rockchip in one place
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, thanks; looking forward to the rest of the walk to mp-wp at any rate (I can see the appeal of ligthtpd for sure)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 00:13 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, nice work there!
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819338 << ty, I plan on blogging the rest of the walk to mp-wp on the rockchip so it is on the shelf for future reference.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Answered http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/28/learning-portage-together-building-php-5-6-on-arm64-rockchip-gentoo/#comment-115101
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, q re php version: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/28/learning-portage-together-building-php-5-6-on-arm64-rockchip-gentoo/#comment-115100
phf: there's a kind of white trash beach resort area 2 hours driving from dc "ocean city". i've been going there with some friends first day of summer for the past few years for that kitsch americana experience: all you can eat crabs, dirty east coast ocean, trashy girls. perfect :)
mod6: speaking of maryland, I saw that one town near baltimore had some raging torrents of rain rushing through the streets this weekend.
phf: it's also that brief time of the year in maryland dc area when the weather is _good_. the rollercoaster of winter is past, but the swampy oppressive summer isn't here yet.
phf: mod6: it's going alright. i have this general fatigue that i'm having hard time shaking off, but i'm going to go to the ocean on friday for a couple of days, which ought to fix me
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 01:46 mircea_popescu: well, his principal problem isn't even that ; but rather that there isn't ~anything fucking there~. he'd like to have some sort of relationship with someone, but the problem is that he does not actually encounter anyone capable of it.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819414 << i could never understand the charges: i always thought that bateman was very earnestly participating in all the games, but it's the world around him that was completely devoid of substance
lobbes: seems indeed no mysql for /dev-lang/php (but then.. how did you get mp-wp working if mysqli evidently can't cut the mustard and no mysql O_o) >> https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-lang/php
a111: Logged on 2018-04-15 22:31 esthlos: there's not even a mysql use flag, just mysqli and PDO
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799701 << esthlos, how'd you resolve this? I'm having the same issue with mp-wp saying php is missing the mysql extension, despite having the mysql USE flag set when I emerged php5.6. Full details of my issue here: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zNr0A/?raw=true
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/05/mp-wp-fix-for-comments-vpatch/ << The Whet - MP-WP: Fix for Comments vpatch
mod6: Yeah, last footnote there has it.
mircea_popescu: girls keep betting me they can distinguish the two apart, and then that's the last i hear on the matter.
mod6: http://trilema.com/2018/the-naked-city/ << 1949 film, got it. Cheers!
mircea_popescu: (and obviously the choice will also be illusory, for the fundamental reason explained by qt in reservoir dogs : "if nobody knows anyone they're going to start arguing on scarce resource division ~AND NOT KNOW WHEN TO BACK DOWN~". nobody knows WHY they don't get to go to $exclusiverestaurant when they want to. nor can they know. so there's nothing to talk about.)
a111: Logged on 2015-01-30 05:51 mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums.
mircea_popescu: because you know, obviously, if everyone gets to choose everything that happens to them, then necessarily there's no possibility of human interaction. hence http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-30#998185
mircea_popescu: he's literally the only one not psychotic.
mircea_popescu: well, his principal problem isn't even that ; but rather that there isn't ~anything fucking there~. he'd like to have some sort of relationship with someone, but the problem is that he does not actually encounter anyone capable of it.
mircea_popescu: in the end the summum of concerns boils down to "whose gray-on-white business card is better".
asciilifeform: anyway, for the entomologist.
asciilifeform: 'Fuck your world where there's no place for me, I thought in despair. If I can't destroy it, at least I'll die a fine death in the attempt, along with others like me. I had no concrete image of how this would come about, but from past experience I knew that he who seeks fate is always provided an opportunity; I would not remain without one.'
mircea_popescu: just about the level.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's uniformly terrible. as it happens i just rewatched the original american psycho.
asciilifeform: the translator sweated, however : 'My girl they will snatch / From the car by the nape / And I will then watch / The men commit rape '
mircea_popescu: the coupla hundred bucks is a problem in the feverish imaginations of campy characters scratching at the windows of the blackface performance.
asciilifeform: enuff for the l0gz. who wants moar? go, read, weep.
asciilifeform: ves, sell yourselves into the slavery of work, because of your vulgar plaid pants, because you make money and have never seen the world. You're shit!'
asciilifeform: 'Who was I over there? What's the difference, what would it change? I hate the past, as I always have, in the name of the present. Well, I was a poet, if you must know, a poet was I, an unofficial, underground poet. That's over forever, and now I am one of yours, I am scum, I'm the one to whom you feed shchi and rotten cheap California wine – $3.59 a gallon – and yet I scorn you. Not all of you, but many. Because you lead dull li
asciilifeform: 'You don't like me? You don't want to pay? It's precious little – $278 a month. You don't want to pay. Then why the fuck did you invite me, entice me here from Russia, along with a horde of Jews? Present your complaints to your own propaganda, it's too effective. That's what's emptying your pockets, not I.'
asciilifeform: where he, e.g., : 'I am on welfare. I live at your expense, you pay taxes and I don't do a fucking thing. Twice a month I go to the clean, spacious welfare office at 1515 Broadway and receive my checks. I consider myself to be scum, the dregs of society, I have no shame or conscience, therefore my conscience doesn't bother me and I don't plan to look for work, I want to receive your money to the end of my days. And my name is Edichka
mircea_popescu: not all that genuine either, but what can you do.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, ro also has one of these, "check out the genuine afrussican". http://trilema.com/2011/mizerabilul-vasile-ernu/
mircea_popescu: i thought it was mostly wank published by various french people ~about~ the funny friday fellow that someone imported to his salon.
asciilifeform: btw, the 'true' limonov's masterlulz, was actually translated to english. for aficionados strictly : https://www.e-reading.club/bookreader.php/1002492/Limonov_Edward_-_Its_Me_Eddie.html
mircea_popescu: anyway, the foggiest of the foggy memories, jesus. but the mind will associate! through a fucking million lines, it will associate.
mircea_popescu: https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/180438?lookfor=author:%22Limonov,%20IU.%20A%22&offset=2&max=2 << here, this is the actual book.
asciilifeform: aa this is very diff fella than the one asciilifeform sometimes mentions.
mircea_popescu: the book though, was early rus
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, https://www.amazon.com/Rossii%CD%A1a%EF%B8%A1-inostrant%CD%A1s%EF%B8%A1ev-Biblioteka-Stranit%CD%A1s%EF%B8%A1y-Otechestva/dp/5289009442 << this is the fellow ; but not the item.
mircea_popescu: this is the previous generation, 80s.
mircea_popescu: there's also a historian limonov
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ideally interfaces with all the goxen.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, look into that nationalist-stalinist dood i fished out. now THAT is some primo extinct species. i had nfi such extreme rarities even existed, in my book the only nationalist-stalinists were stalin himself and ceausescu. not even broz tito. but lo and behold, a french-dwelling irishman!
a111: Logged on 2018-05-28 20:10 deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-girl-that-had-the-world-ahead-of-her/ << Trilema - The girl that had the world ahead of her
a111: Logged on 2018-05-28 23:38 deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/28/learning-portage-together-building-php-5-6-on-arm64-rockchip-gentoo/ << Bingo Blog - Learning Portage Together: Building PHP 5.6 On Arm64 RockChip Gentoo
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-28#1819317 << i'ma definitely try this in the coming days, ave1
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-28#1819298 << during the 1st lolfork, i did this for self, and for a friend, prolly time to revv up the relevant tool again ( if anybody ~really~ doesn't feel like doing his own: gpggram asciilifeform, we'll work something out )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819283 << ha, i had nfi that any of the shitforks were still chugging along
a111: Logged on 2018-05-27 18:52 spyked: with telly savalas aka kojak (which was also popular on romanian tv in the early 90s)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819266 << the shoemaker's favourite tv , allegedly
mircea_popescu: o hey, there you are. i was starting to think you got kidnapped!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, nice work there!
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/28/learning-portage-together-building-php-5-6-on-arm64-rockchip-gentoo/ << Bingo Blog - Learning Portage Together: Building PHP 5.6 On Arm64 RockChip Gentoo
mircea_popescu: "This series of articles will argue that homosexuals, far from constituting a persecuted minority, are in fact key protagonists of the ruling class and bourgeois ideology."
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-girl-that-had-the-world-ahead-of-her/ << Trilema - The girl that had the world ahead of her
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, so on re-reading http://danielpbarron.com/2018/show-me-the-light-by-all-means-but-later/ ; do you in the end dispute the (subsidiary) point that "darwin fish is proof that there will be and can not be any reward for either your effort or your merit in pantsuit empire, and '''proof''' one may attempt to show to the contrary is of the nature of similar '''proof''' offered by any three-card-monte conman" ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-27 20:04 mod6: jurov: thank's for the Q. I'm fine with liquidation. ben_vulpes, agree/disagree?
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/28/draft-pizarro-isp-good-neighbor-policy-rewrite/ << Bingo Blog - Draft Pizarro ISP "Good Neighbor Policy" Rewrite
mircea_popescu: aaand in other lulz, today's google search terms on trilema include inter alia "coetera désiderantur" ; "کوس کون تنگ ایرانی "; "밑가슴" ; "gazeteler şok" ; "bitcoin limbaj de programare" aaaand "fizica in viata de zi cu zi".
BingoBoingo: Still, ahead of Elizabeth's island which is being colonized by its former colonies (the dark ones)
mircea_popescu: ethiopia. must suck to be the smaller half of all your historical colonies.
mircea_popescu: lol poor italy. first with the nazis, now with the roosevelzis... before that with charles... who's gonna rape them next ?
lobbes: conceivably, the 'pre-prepared !!v string' method also has the advantage that when tmsr transitions its infrastructure to be using tmsr-rsa, you won't need to recode your botworks
lobbes: interface with gpg via the bot code)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-27 18:35 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-26#1819113 <-- I personally like trinque's proposal because it enforces a certain level of hygiene and because it doesn't require calling gpg from lisp. but I'm more curious about what other bot operators have to say about it. so even if for example the poker bot needs to handle funds into its own deedbot wallet, I'm curious whether this semi-manual scheme would be feasible.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819256 << lobbesbot uses the 'dedicated key residing on the box it is on' method, but indeed, that key controls does not control any funds nor anything else of consequence besides voicing. Now, when I get tickerbot going (will be a separate bot) I'll probably use the 'pre-prepared !!v string for voicing' method for the same reasons you've stated (hygiene and no need to
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 17:49 trinque: if Mocky were here I'd ask him if he sees the problem yet
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818863 << so you can't consider it a pool while it's filled with algae and bacteria, more correctly a swamp until after the chlorine?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819192 << i'm pretty sure you have to free after you use make-cstring. with-cstrs puts the content onto stack (that's what (DECLARE (DYNAMIC-EXTENT X)) in macroexpand does)
phf: (ccl:with-cstrs ((x "/tmp/fooXXXXXX")) (#_mkdtemp x)) should just work. i'm not sure why esthlos has a nesting there
mod6: Lords and Ladies, please let me know if there are any changes needed to this list. Thanks in advance!
mod6: The Advertised Republican Nodes list [http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html] has been updated to include The Bitcoin Foundation's node @ Pizarro.
jurov: OK, the rate will be different because it will take some time (i'm using home-patched electrum to generate the txen)
mod6: jurov: thank's for the Q. I'm fine with liquidation. ben_vulpes, agree/disagree?
jurov: mod6: ben_vulpes: perhaps you noticed the foundation has some bitcoin cash/gold. liquidate?
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell shinohai Possibly of interest? http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/27/dumpster-fires-not-just-a-metaphor/
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/27/dumpster-fires-not-just-a-metaphor/ << Bingo Blog - Dumpster Fires: Not Just A Metaphor
spyked: anyway, /me finds the tv format increasingly repetitive and hard to follow. last thing I saw was cowboy bebop, and found about a third of it boring. the other two thirds were worth it though, I can now say I've seen most tv anime.
spyked: hm didn't showgirls have the guy from twin peaks/blue velvet/other lynch movies? kyle maclachlan.
mircea_popescu: but yes, that's how the dork ended up in showgirls, notwithstanding he evidently didn't belong there at all.
spyked: hm. hbo also had a series with boobage starring the guy from x-files, forgot his name. but that was mid-90s I think?
mircea_popescu: ever so slightly less fucktarded (american) and possibly the closest esltards ever got to european tv. even had boobs now and again!
spyked: with telly savalas aka kojak (which was also popular on romanian tv in the early 90s)
mircea_popescu: this was a tv show on hbo in the late 80s (at the time hbo was a perfectly respectable premium cable channel, far from the shitpile it has degenerated into after the end of america).
spyked: among other horror stuff spyked has seen as a youngun is "horror express" (1972). the rolling eyeball thing completely creeped me out, gotta rewatch that sometime.
spyked: mircea_popescu, dun think I've seen that one either. first somewhat "creepy" movie I've seen was Twin Peaks cca 1992. but not creepy in the horror sense, and I was 4yo at the time, didn't get much of what was happening.
mircea_popescu: spyked, anyway, i wouldn't say it's a good movie. run of the mill 80s tv camp, with vampires and whatnot. "tales from the crypt" fare, if you recall that show.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, a pre-prepared !!v string for payment of a fixed amt is a de-facto reimplementation of... the banknote.
spyked: I won't dwell on it too much though. could in principle also end up with both implementations and let operator choose via Common Lisp's *features*... if this doesn't mess up the code too much.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-26 15:02 mircea_popescu: re the voicing approach : the above is fine. the alternative, where you keep a dedicated key on the bot, is also fine. the damage it can do is very limited (what, spend money it doesn't have ? rate people ?) and the upside is that you get to find out about possible attacks. neither method is wrong or anything.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-26#1819113 <-- I personally like trinque's proposal because it enforces a certain level of hygiene and because it doesn't require calling gpg from lisp. but I'm more curious about what other bot operators have to say about it. so even if for example the poker bot needs to handle funds into its own deedbot wallet, I'm curious whether this semi-manual scheme would be feasible.
spyked finds a moderate amount of time for movies nowadays. has seen http://trilema.com/2009/nunta-muta/ and http://trilema.com/2015/top-secret/ from his list, and was completely blown away by the former. it still didn't fully sink in, might need to watch it again once or twice.
spyked: mircea_popescu, didn't see it. but there don't seem to be any romanian names in the cast, so wtf. made me curious, adding it to the list.
mircea_popescu: spyked, btw, ever saw http://trilema.com/2011/cel-mai-bun-film/#selection-97.1-97.24 ? there's genuine romanian spoken in some parts, as well as tits. how the fuck they managed to film that in 1985 is a ~very~ interesting question to me. really, what, paid pcr some $$$ and "here's a slut and some dorks" in exchange ?
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819230 <-- looking at http://trilema.com/republican-thesaurus/ , I see that the selection script looks for subtrees under the "shash-39332" span element, but there's none to be found in the rest of the document. is the <span id="shash..."> bit included in page.php? if so, then it's really odd.
mircea_popescu: there was this "freedom figther" dude that meanwhile became a "dangerous criminal" because the "evil government" swtiched sides and is now pantsuit-sponsored
mircea_popescu: aaand in other lmao, "in 2008 the Ugandan army invaded the DRC in search for the LRA in Operation Lightning Thunder."
lobbes has since settled for simply being able to -read- das Deutsch and has begun trying to learn el Español for practical matters (started with Portuguese only to realize.. that only leaves one with Brazil as a potential escape destination vs. the ~entirety of central/south america)
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 16:50 mircea_popescu: lobbes austria is in the wrong. you buy cheap young hussies generally. romania-czech-slovakia-slovenia-serbia etc, the periphery of the empire. not austria (or hungary), the fucking center of it
a111: Logged on 2018-05-27 13:40 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819155 << The question is do you want to go to Germany/Austria, or do you want to learn another language and stick to reading German
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819227 << This was my realization, as well; to immerse myself in the german language I'd have to move to... europe.pantsuit central >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1790965
mircea_popescu: oh, and added "empathy" to http://trilema.com/imperial-thesaurus/
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/republican-thesaurus/ << revised, added aspie and the zone. comments as always welcome. rhymes cost extra.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819155 << The question is do you want to go to Germany/Austria, or do you want to learn another language and stick to reading German
BingoBoingo: But you do have to surround yourself with the language. It doesn't matter if one or a handful of charitable ears understand you, you have to get pronunciation from crashing into everyday tasks of living.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-27 01:47 mircea_popescu: not just theory, either. afaik it's how BingoBoingo learned spanish.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819154 << A girlfriend and girl friends. Mustering attention to pay attention to what the boys are saying usually isn't worth it.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-26#1819137 -> they do indeed so it seems it is the same problem, yes; I just didn't know if anyone had already struggled with it with any success
esthlos: oh I should add, the vast majority of time of the proggy is spent calling gpg. would be nice to replace that turd
esthlos: though wrt the pentesting, I would be grateful for any flaws found
trinque: eh, I wouldn't rely on him for that. he's yet to show any signs he's pressed a trb himself using the previous V
trinque: get the defpackage in there, test, then when you're satisfied, post a genesis patch on your blog.
esthlos: so, what's the path from here?
esthlos: have to change the make-pathname of make-temp-dir back btw, because sbcl barfs
trinque: without the format, of course.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 15:04 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817293 << i started writing a lispy make-temp-directory but the implementation is not particularly elegant (C concerns are at odds with lisp concerns), you can pouch the ccl bits though. i'm not sure if there's a better way to do errno handling, without relying on private ccl symbols
esthlos: I am curious though, if http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817664 was working for phf, because it wasn't for either of us it seems
trinque: I don't think %GET-ERRNO does what it seems. mkdtemp returns a null pointer on error, proper pointer otherwise, and I'm seeing that change depending on whether e.g. there's enough X in the pattern.
esthlos: I'm looking into the expansion of ccl:with-cstrs to see why it's #_mkdtemp might raise an error
trinque: also the code you pasted had a #_mkdtemp wrapped in a #_mkdtemp ?
trinque: well, expand the with-cstrs macro and see if it does what you assume
esthlos: yep, and that's causing the error I believe
esthlos: can you check the errno with (ccl::%GET-ERRNO) ?
trinque: "There's no supported way to directly pass lisp data to foreign functions: scalar lisp data must be coerced to an equivalent foreign representation, and lisp arrays (notably strings) must be copied to non-GCed memory." << right there in the https://ccl.clozure.com/manual/chapter13.2.html
trinque: appears to want some C type there as the argument, which makes sense. I wouldn't know how to provide that, just yet.
esthlos: sorry, don't mean CCL::%ERRNO-DISP is causing the trouble. CCL::%ERRNO-DISP is setting errno to -38, even though it seems to successfully create the directory
esthlos: on the first invocation of make-temp-dir, (ccl::%GET-ERRNO) returns -38, which according to https://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/10/linux-error-codes/ is "function not implemented"
trinque: esthlos: I wager neither of us knows how to use that ffi macro correctly. doing some reading.
esthlos: see the different error messages? I find it odd
mircea_popescu: no, you go there.
esthlos: well, try this out: load in the file from a ccl repl, run make-wot, back out of the failure, and run wot again
trinque: esthlos: yep, I just got to the keyboard. iirc there was something wrong with ccl in regards to keychain path?
esthlos: funny, they conjure literal beings of pure energy
mircea_popescu: i suppose the proper term is "new age". funny how that principal designation of pantsuit idiocy during the 80s disappeared once the soviets gave in.
esthlos: trinque: any time to look at the new vtron? the currently outstanding issues I'm aware of are 1. need to reintroduce a defpackage; 2. weirdness with ccl and building the gpg keychain
esthlos: most admirable physicists I've encountered feel ~ the same. still, idea secudes me from time to time
mircea_popescu: in short, it's not only ill posed, but rather seems ill posed a certain, familiar way.
mircea_popescu: ly tweet their productions.
mircea_popescu: in any case i find the web 2.0 ish approach intellectually repugnant ; if i'm to explain why one "feels his arms pulled" when spinning under the moon, perhaps i'll be next held to explain why the same one doesn't "feel" the normal pressure in his bladder, or the heliocentric nature of the solar system in his horse's clavicle. let einstein, ziggler, marx, godin and friends answer this nonsense ; anil dash stands ready to angri
mircea_popescu: anyway, celestial reference is practically useful, and the question "but why should it be" seems ill posed.
mircea_popescu: i dunno ; grav theory is particularily opaque.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, it's really owned by the indian govt.
lobbes: the "error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" sounds like we have the same issue. Either way, I've no solution yet myself. I figure if I can get mp-wp going with php 7.2 I guess I'll be satisfied for now
lobbes: diana_coman: I've been on a quest for the last few days trying to get a LAMP running on my rockchip. I was getting barfs on emerging php-5.6 but managed to at least get php 7.2.4 installed
BingoBoingo: I like how the Botswana Bank's international outreach is to India
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/26/some-fg-samples-and-test-results/ << Bingo Blog - Some FG Samples And Test Results
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-v-questionarium-answerarium-2018-edition/ << Trilema - The V questionarium & answerarium, 2018 edition
mircea_popescu: i'll be very keen to hear someone explain the difference between usg and kpss.
mircea_popescu: "I cofounded Activate, the strategy consultancy that guides the leaders of the biggest media, technology and entertainment companies in developing their strategies for growth" << consider the politruk-icity. so, "the biggest" have absolutely nothing to say. they are so inept at creating their own fucking strategies, they'll just hire the political commissar to give them a sheet of paper that's certified by the office of polit
mircea_popescu: But just a word to journalists aghast at the idea of naming a source who wanted to be off the record: telling the truth and exposing the Presidents lies is actually more important than j-school decorum. Youre being played."
mircea_popescu: He was the director of Expert Labs, a "Government 2.0 initiative that aims to connect United States government projects with citizens who want to become more involved in the political discussion"
mircea_popescu: "Anil Dash (/ɑːˈniːl ˈdæʃ/; born September 5, 1975) is an American blogger, entrepreneur, and technologist. Previously an independent technology consultant and new media developer for the Village Voice"
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, anil dash of http://trilema.com/2014/the-nigger-a-practical-exercise/ still exists!
mircea_popescu: are we specifiing a gns standard for these ?
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1819057 <-> http://trilema.com/2018/the-v-questionarium-answerarium-2018-edition/#selection-321.35-321.107
mircea_popescu: re the voicing approach : the above is fine. the alternative, where you keep a dedicated key on the bot, is also fine. the damage it can do is very limited (what, spend money it doesn't have ? rate people ?) and the upside is that you get to find out about possible attacks. neither method is wrong or anything.
spyked: I'll leave this open for discussion for a coupla days or so. meanwhile any comments from other lisp bot operators ( ben_vulpes, lobbes, phf et al.) are muchly appreciated.
spyked: otherwise bot won't self-voice.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 14:17 trinque: spyked: one could make many voicing OTPs, and put them in a hopper for the bot.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 22:46 spyked: mircea_popescu, no, not yet. it's next on the todo list.
spyked: also, re. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1819054 my intention is to implement the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815920 approach, where: a. user obtains OTPs manually by prodding deedbot with !!ups, decrypts them and feeds them to trilemabot; b. trilemabot maintains a list of OTPs and uses the next one in the list when it needs to self-voice (i.e. after it /joins #trilema). c. user must ensure that the OTP list is not empty,
spyked: in the logs.
spyked: to clear up the confusion in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818920 (and maybe for some bonus lulz): somehow last night my eyes completely overlooked the last part in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818894 (yes, after reading *twice*), leading to a very wtf contextless spyked upon ingesting http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818901 . /me still has much practice to do to follow discussions in real-time, most of my reading happens
mircea_popescu: just preserve the principle, "rsa signed kernels"
douchebag: So yeah, she's going to get fucked up. I'll post pictures of the aftermath if I see her at all in the next 24 hrs
douchebag: well, she robbed some dude for $280 of crack and now these black dudes are telling her she has to get into a fist fight with their cousin, and they will forget about the debt. Their cousin is a black dude a few years older than me.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1819048 << in abstract it's great; but in the concrete case it requires GB of google liquishit tooling to be kept around so as to sign kernels ( unless somebody wants to rewrite and follow the gnarly format.. )
mircea_popescu: then when i say imperial "school" is out and out kiddie fucking they act like they've no idea wtf.
mircea_popescu: Schools will inevitably be doing their best to make young children feel as relaxed as the can be.'
mod6: pipp8: Make sure to register a key and get yourself into the wot via deedbot. Here's the help page: http://deedbot.org/help.html
mircea_popescu: part of the problem is i don't even know if i can receive and can't be arsed to debug something i don't really use anyway. but yes, will clear it nao.
spyked: mircea_popescu, yeah, the example was only intended to give preview, re "what've you been doing all this time". btw, can unsubscribe using !F unsubscribe <link>. otherwise it'll send you messages after I figure out what's borken.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 15:58 phf: asciilifeform: i'm establishing scope, rather then actually doing anything. firefox on my x60 has an uper limit on tabs i have open, because it runs out of memory, so i started thinking that this ain't no way to live :>
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818760 << bear in mind that my girls get in trouble for having over a dozen tabs open. maybe the solution is on the other end!
mircea_popescu: also i'm not exactly instrumented here to handle testing of pming bots, rss or otherwise. so mebbe someone else may be more useful ?