mircea_popescu: (this, by the way, is why you shouldn't permit women to run the house. it's way too fucking easy for them to fritz-chip the jtags.)
mircea_popescu: but it's this unholy alliance of "it itches" vegetative signal and "pick at your scabs" low level motherly acculturation.
mircea_popescu: 2 minutes later.... "MOTHERFUCKER!!!"
mircea_popescu: the better comparison is, 19yo who's been well trained to pick at her scabs.
mircea_popescu: the amount of washing it takes to recycle imperial-farmed cunt into useful slavery is mindnumbing.
mircea_popescu: it'd be easier to turn them out. ~literally~, this isn't some sort of rhetorical device. it would be easier to turn them into streetwalking whores than to turn them into sane people whose online presence has continuity.
mircea_popescu: you have no fucking idea what sorts of punishments it takes to de-ingrain the "now irc link turns off" processes they have.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-05 00:13 Matthew: you guys wrote this yourself right
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 14:39 asciilifeform: meanwhile, reddit verdict : 'Are there any less tinfoiley sites that discuss this? All of the references circle back to him.'
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 15:18 mircea_popescu: if he hadn't heard of the third reich instrument of surrender he'd be going around his village singing "tomorrow belongs to me". as it is, he derps on the periphery of google. if he realised tmsr owns the world he'd be "community organizing" for you. and so on.
mircea_popescu: and in other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822012 lulz : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822363 is somehow an argument, but "all references circle back to usg" http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764431 bothers none of the pondscum. "that is normal". of fucking course it is, of the SOVEREIGN. which happens to be tmsr, not some rando criminal org.
asciilifeform: and holy fuq the sheer militant uselessness of each new crop of i_came_via_reddit weevils.
mircea_popescu: but, i can see the angle.
mircea_popescu: problem is, they tend to be asexuate derps.
asciilifeform: the lulzy bit is that likely, a thousand or more unlocked units exist, in the hands of various derps
asciilifeform: i got various things. problem is that i do not currently have a popped unit where i can see the effect of $manipulation on rng (or any other part, aside from general 'it crashed')
asciilifeform: the fact that h1 started life as fpga, suggests this.
asciilifeform: prolly it's the typical on-chip ring oscillator, plus bit of whitener.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, how's the rng work ? maybe a bit of electric field can set out 1s ?
asciilifeform: ( the 'rma unlock' 32byte turd, is simply rng output )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a break of the rng would also do the job. ( admittedly , tall order , but listed for completeness. )
asciilifeform: the sheer cheek.
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, it's different species of slime". no, it fucking isn't. all slime is the exact same identical species : itself.
mircea_popescu: these fucktards! they wanna go about derping about "tin foil" and whatnot "unprofessional", then queue up to read all about "gandalf".
asciilifeform: one interesting observation, is that the update mechanism lets you flash in arbitrary crapola into 'rw' section ( it simply won't jump to it if it doesn't pass rsa(sha256(payload)) ) . so theoretically could put a nop sled there, ending with jump into the magic half of unlock routine. and then expose the thing to beta/gamma, and perhaps in a few months it will Do The Right Thing
mircea_popescu: right, there's that.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you can get factory probes on them pads, i would not even be surprised if you can just flash it without further ado.
asciilifeform: does, dunnit. cuz its a flatbed. gets the chip markings, mostly, but the pcb itself is out of focus by mm or 2.
asciilifeform: for completeness, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/mb_top.jpg + http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/mb_btm.jpg ( apologies for the sad photos, they came out of a flatbed, evidently not ideal tool for this job )
mircea_popescu: they're nothing if not cheap.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/h1.jpg << observe, cr50 has buncha test pads. i bet half a dozen of these, are used for factory fillup.
mircea_popescu: something their parents would have never even considered.
mircea_popescu: the atmosphere in the great stalin-less stalinism has changed lots. nowadays people actually say dumb shit like "what the government wants it called is the proper name for it" and other inanity like that. with a straight fucking face.
trinque: john k's crime here is bending over to the state after making a career upon ramming lulz through the censors. "3 decades struggle with mental illness" such as being heterosexual.
mircea_popescu: it's only natural to get rid of the skin the same year the dumb shit starts bleeding ; and by and large the rule. in any case the ~normal~.
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking species has a thing for teenage girls ; that's the prime directive of sexuate reproduction : defloration.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck are you and what's with that idiotic nick.
BingoBoingo: And in the Latest Brasilero quirks, Apparently 28C/82F is the appropriate night time temperature for the heatpump. Because of course during the winter everyone should be adapted to sleep at a summer daytime temperature.
trinque: asciilifeform: https://archive.li/sVoej << I get zero output from the test provided at the bottom using deedbot's gpg
trinque: the thick irony being that for most nickelodeon staff, 16 is way too old.
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 13 hours and 6 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> might be worth testing whether koch's latest lul affects deedbot's gpg hose
asciilifeform: meanwhile, reddit verdict : 'Are there any less tinfoiley sites that discuss this? All of the references circle back to him.'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the entomological pit : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AFritz-chip >> 'I've deleted most of the article. The information here is already presented in a more up-to-date fashion at Trusted Computing, which is the correct title for the technology. "Fritz-chip" was never more than a moniker used by critics of the technology put forth by Sen. Hollings. The article now represents this fact. Warrens 23:24, 29 April 2006 (
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-lordship-list-fourth-year/#comment-121713 << ahahah trinque has like the CUTEST avatar!
hanbot: ^ phf please to update, apologies for the hassle.
lobbes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-6-10#373478 << lol, I believe it. On the bright side, at least it didn't contain any brain-eating amoebas >> http://archive.is/SJSUG
mircea_popescu: ah so the idea is that if shell callout, you might end up with wrong response ?
asciilifeform: loox like you can stuff arbitrary crapola into the filename field, and it gets term-interpreted to stderr ( where result is shat )
asciilifeform: ( from the horse's mouth )
asciilifeform: status messages are parsed by programs to get information from gpg about the validity of a signature and an other parameters. Status messages are created with the option "--status-fd N" where N is a file descriptor. Now if N is 2 the status messages and the regular diagnostic messages share the stderr output channel. By using a made up file name in the message it is possible to fake status messages.'
asciilifeform: 'The OpenPGP protocol allows to include the file name of the original input file into a signed or encrypted message. During decryption and verification the GPG tool can display a notice with that file name. The displayed file name is not sanitized and as such may include line feeds or other control characters. This can be used inject terminal control sequences into the out and, worse, to fake the so-called status messages. These
asciilifeform: let's put in the l0gz :
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell trinque might be worth testing whether koch's latest lul affects deedbot's gpg hose
asciilifeform: starfish is getting broad daylight waltzing, no way to boeck around the fact.
mircea_popescu: "usg sucks" "i don't like how you used the word suck" | "usg is dumb" "i don't approve of the usage of verbs" | "the goat is dead" "i don't like the syllable count and this has nothing to do with my suspicion the goat may be a veiled reference to usg".
mircea_popescu: anyway. in the end, i suppose it's pretty amusing to notice that a) indifferent of form b) the reaction will be to substance c) and negative because the substance's not usg-friendly but nevertheless d) claim to be a reaction to form.
asciilifeform: i've met these folx in the flesh, show'em e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/pub/nobus.jpg and response is lordosis
asciilifeform: this is the leitmotif audible to asciilifeform , at any rate.
asciilifeform: for the moar advanced fetishists, even lets you solder contacts and rewrite boot rom etc., 'Чем бы дитя не тешилось, лишь бы не вешалось'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: revisiting upstack -- i suspect that the decerebrated folx, are not aware of any such famine. google made the perfect fuffle for'em, the dildonic 'open comp' that offers 'fetish of power', go ahead and install linux etc.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated nikki_ff 1 << aspiring slavegirl ; also famous for the "piss on the bitch" cocktail.
mircea_popescu: !!rate nikki_ff 1 aspiring slavegirl ; also famous for the "piss on the bitch" cocktail.
mircea_popescu: holy shit, the dumbass managed.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, so if there's been a famine going for 20 years meatballs are "soo 1997" ?
asciilifeform: i'm surprised that nobody brought up the eating of toe fungus
asciilifeform: also witness the redditards, 'harping on tpm, that's SOOO rms from 1997' etc
mircea_popescu: so basically he can't show "his superiors" that he reads doubleplusungood folk who don't insert a "traiasca tovarasul" sentence twice per paragraph, is the idea ?
mircea_popescu: you know i just re-read your article, because i was curious. wtf was "unprofessional" about it ?! i mean, yes, there's deliberately constructed anti-"professional" items, like say recently the http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-things-that-didnt-happen-today-heres-192-cracked-github-keys-some-hotties-in-tech-included-yes/ phuctor discussion.
asciilifeform: focus of fish, is the worm.
mircea_popescu: i confess it'd worry me, in their place.
mircea_popescu: but the point of concern for mcguffin-book writers / social media personalities / journalists / whatever else the pantsuit keep telling themselves they do, would be that the chinese can't seem to be bothered to give the slightest fuck. these are some people who find even one arm bandits fascinating.
asciilifeform: about same amt of shit as mircea_popescu gives about the fate of newly-ejected condom, aha
mircea_popescu: well... in the patient's defense, the anglotards are really not all that interesting.
mircea_popescu: not anymore than anyone over at alphabet gives a shit about the misadventures of amstan ; or anyone at redhat about the new hole in boeck's ass, or etc.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine the chinese actually give a shit about the withc hunts in that obscure european colony.
asciilifeform: afaik chinese sit and 'wait for the corpse to float by' just like 1000yrs ago.
mircea_popescu: it's about something or other, but broadly about the fact that the pantsuit party is very angry any sort of pushback against mother china WHATSOEVER still goes on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ah i thought this was still about the reality winner lulz
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, afaik that ali watkins chick is a libertard stalwart. the whole thing is "how dares state challenge the politruks"
asciilifeform: time now for the ex-latrinecleaners
asciilifeform: i can only guess, that the pronounceable, brahmin folk, have run out
asciilifeform: they're getting less and less pronouncable. tejpal s. chawla -- srsly.
asciilifeform: 'the secret, strange hole in his dubious pew!'(tm)(r)(trilema) !
mircea_popescu: you mean the phew ?
hanbot: mircea_popescu: to the pew!
mircea_popescu: wait, it's a ~therapy~ ?!
asciilifeform: therapy.”'
asciilifeform: https://archive.li/x3A3f << subj: >> '...his practice of drinking a glass of his own urine every day, and as veteran journalist M.V.Kamath, reporting for ToI, noted rather despairingly, the problem wasn’t just that Desai did this, but he was very eager to talk at length about it: “in a 15-minute appearance on a very popular Sunday TV show called ’60 Minutes’, Mr.Desai was seen taking practically half the time to commend urine
mircea_popescu: henceforth a new "piss on the bitch" cocktail is defined, for public consumption, as piss, vodka and a splash of fruit juice.
asciilifeform: theeere we go.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, to put the matter of piss and gurls to (temporary) rest : Jun 09 01:57:42 <nikki_ff> yes sir i am drunk <mircea_popescu> how do you like your piss ? <nikki_ff> best its ever tasted.
asciilifeform: observe, the ~saner~ end of the heathenpit comments are along the lines of 'yes there's no escape, i sit and drink'
mircea_popescu: they're all someone;s daughter.
mircea_popescu: honestly, i'm happy with the outcomes. swathes of 20something yo slavegirls as far as the eye can see, to take pick from.
asciilifeform: they've created this apparatus of 'pencildicks', and it will further the oddball rituals, or how else to justify existing.
asciilifeform: 'the confession was on his chromebook, and no one (But US, but US Would Never!11) but his own hand, could have written' etc
asciilifeform: the pretense with arrested diplomat et al stretches thin even to idjit public; thus they'll take all of the techno-help they can get, is the idea.
mircea_popescu: the list is indeed long.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 00:04 asciilifeform: and prolly they will sit in front of same judge who earlier nodded to 'tor devs would never', etc.
a111: Logged on 2014-10-19 18:31 asciilifeform: chetty: the whole purpose of 'biometric' crap is to administratively fix the designated chump as the permanently-designated chump.
a111: Logged on 2015-10-17 17:42 asciilifeform: the point i was trying to make then, as now, is that mri - like fingerprints - is a confession-inducer and evidence-planter apparatus, let's say 'guiltwashing', rather than necessarily a fact-finder.
asciilifeform: just like the credit card 'security' exists so banks can drop the bill for fraudulent mercedes onto the hapless card luser.
mircea_popescu: the empire of exam taking.
mircea_popescu: this is what they do.
asciilifeform: it's still 'admin', lol, just more along the vein of 'adminMAGICNSANOBUSSTRING'
mircea_popescu: this is the fucking problem they're trying to resolve, that without restraints, the horde re-organizes into unflat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, without the fritz chips, the situation is 1trn "users" whose router pwd is admin, and then m00t's horde owning time magazine's "man of the year" competition.
asciilifeform: i suppose we will revisit this when we find the magic overflow etc.
asciilifeform: (given as enemy will immediately patch when they get hold of the boojum, as crapple does)
asciilifeform: while this thread is alive -- there remains the (currently, hypothetical) puzzler of what-do when we find the jailbreak. i expect, buy N boxes, and cure'em ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 18:04 Mocky: it's eye opening for me to see how it looks from this side where asciilifeform exposes obvious stench which is met with chorus of 'nah, it smells good'. apparently 'till now I've been the local, ala: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822065
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822079 << this is imho the lulziest case yet on record : google is pissing in their mouths, entirely overtly, and the universal response is 'mm, tasty, lemonade'
asciilifeform: as soon as it gets shat out, the links to the earlier heathenpit threads, will reroute to it -- just like in earlier phuctor case
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 18:07 mircea_popescu: and as far as most mouthbreathers are concerned, the world is too much and the little glass bead of "nigger explains what '''events mean to me'''" archsufficient.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822087 << see also. i'd be surprised if there isn't already a boeck-style 'rebuttal' (perhaps from herr boeck himself) in the works.
esthlos: "This is the technology equivalent of an edgy 14-year-old atheist writing about religion." loller
asciilifeform: invitation to read the src -- already 'downvoted' into oblivion, unsurprisingly.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in choice redditisms : 'I used to work as a security researcher - if I thought this subject was interesting I'd have to look for another source talking about the same thing because there's no way in hell it'd be acceptable to reference this level of unprofessionalism in a conference or to my superiors.'
asciilifeform: and this will work until they move the whole fw orchestra into cr50. which is on the planned 'feature' list already for next rev.
asciilifeform: plebe wants to checksum the ec fw ? gotta solder a dozen probes under microscope.
asciilifeform: another interesting tidbit : cr50 vendor fw will conveniently checksum the ec and ap(bootloader) fw. BUT not without goldenkey. wouldn't want terrorists testing for fw modification, see.
asciilifeform: and prolly they will sit in front of same judge who earlier nodded to 'tor devs would never', etc.
asciilifeform: it is probably impossible to educate the willingly thick, however, who ~actually~ see a box with NOBUS master keys as 'moar secure than with no keys'. these, will only wake up when they're sitting in kangaroo court , and confessing to 'child porn'
asciilifeform: prolly at some point i gotta write a 'NOBUS likbez' re the fundamental motivations ( they are not difficult to discern , but apparently entirely opaque to the herd , even when you exclude the willingly blind )
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 18:26 mircea_popescu: the practical problem, though, is that depending of how generous you are with the notion of user, a world without such an interface may not even be possible.
asciilifeform: the 'go and cut pins' thing will ~work for certain purposes, but in the very near term it will become entirely unproductive -- they are moving the whole orchestra into single chip. ( e.g. crapple is ~already there. )
asciilifeform: you can't cut ~all~ of them, however, the 'negotiation' (CC1/CC2) pins are used by the mains bricks
asciilifeform: esthlos: theoretically, under microscope
esthlos: is it possible to trash the non-power pins?
asciilifeform: ( this is the case in, e.g., all new crapple boxen )
asciilifeform: while we're on the subj, i find it interesting how both google and intel ( and by extension, all new mb makers ) finessed the problem of 'terrorists will epoxy usb ports closed' -- nao usg can get 'airport quickie' root through a hole that you cannot cement, because the box charges ~only~ from it
asciilifeform: ( until i got'em trimmed in, 'suzy' worked 'every other time' )
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 16:05 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821714 << will do, i've had all the parts shipped at this point, but i won't be back until monday..
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822031 << phf keep in mind that the resistors gotta be, iirc, accurate within 5%. hence why i used trimpots.
asciilifeform: esthlos: there ain't, and likely won't be
mircea_popescu: brains have sensibly flattened since hte golden age of the hardbound
mircea_popescu: all these items from back when people read books.
esthlos: asciilifeform: makes sense wrt the wiki.
asciilifeform: esthlos: in re the b00kz -- i have okasaki, and must note, he is a mathematically interesting read, but 100% useless in actual practice, unless you use 'lazy-evaluated' prog langs
mircea_popescu: the amusing part is just how repetitive it all is lol.
asciilifeform lols over the various crapola mail, 'purism!', 'cured intel really!', etc
esthlos: bah that article is terrible. see http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/colortheory/web/hsv.html
esthlos: looks like nuking the auto-paragraph feature for posts also nuked it for comments
esthlos: there, please
mircea_popescu: esthlos, actually, do you want comments there ? or here ?
esthlos: ^^ I'm curious what folx think of the above. Reading through the logs, FFA, etc., I've realized how little I know. So I'm thinking that I'll have to devote the majority of my effort to learning the ropes wrt computing before I can pull my weight in here. Does this make sense?
mircea_popescu: i dunno why anyone looks to hollywood for fiction production. the usg directorate of propaganda manages some pretty hysterical comedies.
mircea_popescu: techcrunch.com/2016/12/08/the-libreboot-c201-from-minifree-is-really-really-really-ridiculously-open-source/ :D
mircea_popescu: am i supposed to not notice the overpowering flavour of mendacity, "hey, we already did what phuctor does!!!!" story all over again ?
mircea_popescu: techcrunch.com/2017/08/11/the-minifree-libreboot-t400-is-free-as-in-freedom/ << lol the ersatzen.
mircea_popescu: from experience, the only incentive is purelty internal : slave belongs inside, goes inside.
apt-get: convenience isn't limited to the device itself, it also encompasses a large ecosystem of both social and technical incentives to enter a firm's walled garden.
asciilifeform: 'purism', 'minifree', organs of the beast.
mircea_popescu: there's just about 0 convenience delivered by the tools of "convenience" and "usability".
mircea_popescu: except the part where the convenience of doing stupid thing is just as inconvenient as anything.
apt-get: convenience of usability will always trump freedom when it comes to these things, which is why you don't see minifree or purism making bank on their libre hardware.
mircea_popescu: otherwise they wouldn't go about pretending like they believe google is in any way different from groupon, a purely imaginary, 100% paper construction.
mircea_popescu: same thing here, by purely behavioural standards they're as aware as could be.
mircea_popescu: can't apply livresque standards of awareness to the herd, they're not human in that sense. you believe cattle is aware of electified fence, even if no cow ever sat down with you and stated as much over beers and buffalo wings.
apt-get: I suppose such conditions could be theoretically enforced in a democratic system... but it would imply making the general populace to both be aware and feel threatened by these issues, which isn't going to happen anytime soon, practically speaking.
mircea_popescu: if the priors are anything like a) "anyone should have access to computers" and b) "to use as they see fit", you'll be back to some kind of nsa fritz chip in very short order, especially if you're committed to equalitarian socialism (or, "democracy", to use the in-universe names)
mircea_popescu: the practical problem, though, is that depending of how generous you are with the notion of user, a world without such an interface may not even be possible.
apt-get: Well, I don't know if my political leanings would necessarily imply going to such lengths as described in that manifesto, but I am indeed supportive of any attempt to free computing from the proprietary and government boulders placing themselves between the user and the product.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822076 << no, you know, it's an algorithm :D protects the worshipful from toxicfacts and things, making google very fucking useful for no purpose whatsoever in the process.
mircea_popescu: so is it rather a political investment, something in the vein of http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ , "i wish to touch the bars of my cage with mine own hands" ?
apt-get: stumbled upon the loper blog by luck and I found it to be a cool project
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, imagine the ambiguity we dwell in! it's not even fucking clear.
mircea_popescu: and as far as most mouthbreathers are concerned, the world is too much and the little glass bead of "nigger explains what '''events mean to me'''" archsufficient.
mircea_popescu: yet http://trilema.com/2018/when-cherri-met-rae-rae-also-met-cherri/ vs http://trilema.com/2018/an-examination-of-conflict/ strictly and exactly describes the problem. the captive aren't captive because they were captured, they're captive because that's what they fucking are.
mircea_popescu: but, amusingly enough, the conversation with the chick who thought herself a domme controls here! imagine that, you know, sex determining matters scientific, how unfair and improper and in breach of implicit promises made by the "civilisation" of tedious old women.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, regular occurence on this side of the zone.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 16:51 mircea_popescu: well, you. the locals are too kind and simple for any sight.
Mocky: it's eye opening for me to see how it looks from this side where asciilifeform exposes obvious stench which is met with chorus of 'nah, it smells good'. apparently 'till now I've been the local, ala: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822065
mircea_popescu: gotta be explained "what this means to them", which is what the nigger brigade is for, from http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=anil+dash to http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ to what have you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, none of the fucktards can, or ever have, or have any intention of reading source.
asciilifeform: ( their phuctor filter is esp lulzy, gives not null but specifically ancient stale pages, boeck's 'rebuttal', reddit. etc )
asciilifeform: i suspect that the whole incident will be unhappened soon enuff, added to same googleban db as trilema , phuctor, etc
asciilifeform: the 'of course you can't have SEKOORITY without goldenkeys!', 'prove! nsa involved!', etc derps, all awoken from under their rocks, working.
asciilifeform: the hilarious bit is that the published src has 100% of the lulz out in plain daylight. incl, e.g., the bootrom-writeprotect override function in cr50, the magic pubkeys, the bit that turns wireless on during idle, etc
asciilifeform: elsewhere in heathendom, https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8pyaec/the_google_h1_fritz_chip/ << usg brigade out in force, 'this is just a tpm, cannot reflash fw' etc 'say it 3 times, it'll be true'isms
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as overwhelmed.
asciilifeform: ( naturally including the one for c101pa box )
asciilifeform: re gtkism -- asciilifeform can'twait to see how the derps react to the revelation that asciilifeform's gentoos hardban gtk3/dbus/pulseaudio/whole shebang
mircea_popescu: well, you. the locals are too kind and simple for any sight.
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy because over here it's so low budget, you can directly see the underwiring.
asciilifeform: even in usa hq, they make use of ample coolie labour
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822006 << amstan you can post those asus schems any time you feel like being useful; i will publish them. if you want to do it anon, pgp mircea_popescu or asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, re gtk+ 3, observe that the dumbass orcs in the comment section are all about "i don't see why you wouldn't '''upgrade''' your desktop to browserhood"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, alphabet essentially survives, in the perceptible rather than the byzantine imaginarium sense, out of their orclands outposts. exactly as described in http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#selection-121.0-121.824
a111: Logged on 2018-06-10 05:00 mircea_popescu: https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/04/29/yet-another-gtk-update/ for the entomologist ; one luzy moment in the endless stream of idiocy that is 3rd millenium foss.
asciilifeform: ( they have a googlarium in ro?! )
asciilifeform: and the 'we'll post some schems real soon nao, just wait' fella, etc
asciilifeform: and the 'trust yer hardware that you have' fella
mircea_popescu wasn't there.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822011 << he's the hint-dropping d00d from #rockchip
lobbesbot: Mocky: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: o there he is. howdy
a111: Logged on 2018-06-08 17:30 asciilifeform: phf: if you are able to build the usb snake -- lemme know which cr50 turd ver is in your box
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821714 << will do, i've had all the parts shipped at this point, but i won't be back until monday..
mircea_popescu: did you want to share anything with the group, ivan ?
mircea_popescu: (refs http://trilema.com/2017/the-incidental-humiliation-of-obamas-clean-energy-policies-marc-andreessens-internet-of-farts-and-other-such-comedic-gold-bricks/ and http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ for the noobs)
mircea_popescu: not the time chicks kept coming in to show us their tits, that's no secret, is that ?
|\n: and whatver if theres some secret stuff i might leave
mircea_popescu: yeah, i wasn't about to take you for one of the fet sluts. what brings you here ?
mircea_popescu: |\n who are you then, cleverboi
mircea_popescu: if he hadn't heard of the third reich instrument of surrender he'd be going around his village singing "tomorrow belongs to me". as it is, he derps on the periphery of google. if he realised tmsr owns the world he'd be "community organizing" for you. and so on.
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/06/10/chasing-the-elusive-euloran-quality/ << Ossasepia - Chasing the Elusive Euloran Quality
amstan: i mean i doubt it, but to be fair i don't know much about how it works, just how it's connected to the system
mircea_popescu: https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/04/29/yet-another-gtk-update/ for the entomologist ; one luzy moment in the endless stream of idiocy that is 3rd millenium foss.
asciilifeform: i expect google will censor the thing from their own index first thing on monday opening hour
loper_os_cr50_: No I wasn't even searching. Just grab that android stuff and it suggested that strange card about the fritz chip.
loper_os_cr50_: You might receive more visit, Google now reference your last post on cr50 that's what made me arrive at first on your page. Then I spent the rest of the evening reading.
asciilifeform: you're the, what, 5th, 6th? loper_os_cr50 to log in today..
asciilifeform: when you make a key and register with deedbot, you become a person, until then just a spirit
asciilifeform: then we will have some notion of which you, you were, when you come back..
loper_os_cr50_: Enjoy guys, see you in 6 months after the reading
asciilifeform: there unfortunately is not much to choose from
asciilifeform: and nao reporting on the experiments
asciilifeform: loper_os_cr50_: why would you want to buy expensive, power-wasting , hot-running chip from the foremost nsa bug factory, if you don't have to ?
loper_os_cr50_: There must be a way for a clean solution!
loper_os_cr50_: What do you guys think about the librem effort?
mircea_popescu: lol. mkay, it goes back many years and there's a lot of material. generally it's recommended noobs spend 6 months reading through it.
loper_os_cr50_: Lots of things that I got trouble to get ;) Reverse engineering skills there
mircea_popescu: loper_os_cr50 the logs are your best bet.
loper_os_cr50_: Not working yet that would be pretentious. Sick of dirty chip and code. Search for pure trust and control over the machine. Have yet to learn a lot before starting to work. For now I read.
asciilifeform: loper_os_cr50_: more specifically? are you working with the iron from cr50 article?
mircea_popescu: alrighty then, that must be it.
asciilifeform: iirc they own several swaths of ipv4ola
asciilifeform: will have to look, currently i have only faint idea how the backlink thing even worx
mircea_popescu: back then you were on a diff host too.
mircea_popescu: but not in the intervening 3 years.
asciilifeform: interesting, i'ma have to pop the hood and see why
asciilifeform: veeery little on the current-day net is worth coming back to, cultivating a relation with, etc
asciilifeform: so they don't let it touch skin.