mircea_popescu: the thing is very stringently optimized to waste as little as possible on the spammer wanna-bes, but then again i never tried it on an arm.
lobbes: in other words, iptables currently unavailable until I figure out more of arm64 peculiarities
mircea_popescu: of course... this is the rockchip ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 16:14 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828477 << ack, ty for letting me know. I'll try sshing in tonight to rule out webserver failure before I flag down BB to check out the situation manually. (I must say, it is a good feeling knowing that nowhere in this troubleshooting cycle will I need to interface with orcs.)
mod6: but backing up the chain is a good idea. i actually have backups more recent than that, but from other trbs, not this specific one.
mircea_popescu: then maybe not worth it, likely will take more than 10 days to sync
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the basement, https://78.media.tumblr.com/df0b4f8fa317c5110325b4496d0a7dee/tumblr_o6gtpxaWH61rhup7qo1_540.gif
mircea_popescu: just reinstate the old index, have it check the chain. odds are it'll be able to recover, because it doesn't so much care about data ~past~ its index point.
mod6: i think i'm just gonna cutblock all the blk*.dat files, and eatblock 'em.
lobbes: ouch... I could see myself doing the same thing
mod6: this ip from the nodes list: 208.94.240.42
mod6: will need to probably resync the whole thing.
mod6: anyway, now the db is corrupt.
phf: what's the executable substrate? i mean it's an fpga carrying its own architecture, what's it compiled with?
asciilifeform: https://github.com/coreboot/chrome-ec/blob/48d6891db8b5b2b0825136f6f9013a110b2a98da/util/signer/create_released_image.sh << moar re the layout of the fw. apologies for l0gz clutter.
phf: the later is a guess though right, that it's currently installed?
asciilifeform: oh , for compleeetness, http://loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/cr50.bin.prod << the 0.3.4 cr50 fw currently installed in my box. ( the offsets above, are valid for it)
asciilifeform: 'Note: early versions of the SoC would let us build and manually sign our own bootloaders, and the RW images could be self-signed. Production SoCs require officially-signed binary blobs to use for the RO bootloader(s), and the RW images that we build must be manually signed. So even though we generate RO firmware images, they may not be useful.'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://github.com/coreboot/chrome-ec/blob/b9f5a3d6baae84950f5ff0c4f7c588e55944818a/chip/g/config_chip.h#L135 >>
asciilifeform: it remains possible that the loader crapola lives in some part of the rom that doesn't get updated and thereby not part of my bin image.
asciilifeform: in particular, the '0xcafebabe' magicturd in https://github.com/coreboot/chrome-ec/blob/b9f5a3d6baae84950f5ff0c4f7c588e55944818a/chip/g/loader/main.c#L102 , dun appear at all in the bin
asciilifeform: the last bit of wtf, is that there dun appear to be anyffing corresponding to the published loader
asciilifeform: stored in presumably same bass-ackwards form as the RW.
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/corod/?raw=true << the RO pubkey. (labels mine, offsets original). does not appear to be posted publicly anywhere.
asciilifeform: ( there's a rw and ro piece in each of the 2 redundant sections of the rom , and each contains a copy of rw key -- why? ask'em, not me )
asciilifeform: this in turn , is found in 4 places in the rom , http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/dqhNR/?raw=true ( labels mine , offsets preserved )
asciilifeform: 2) the RW key, corresponding to 'RW keyid: 0xde88588d(prod)' , appears , and is identical to what lives in https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/cr50_v3.4/util/signer/cr50_RW-prod.pem.pub
asciilifeform: 1) the pubs thrown earlier in phuctor ( seen in e.g. https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/cr50_v3.4/chip/g/loader/verify.c#17 ) dun appear anywhere in fw 3.4
BingoBoingo has doubts the venezolana is running away for keeps, because she keeps asking how alf is doing
BingoBoingo: This feeds, what is commonly called a series. Sometimes they go exciting places... Sometimes they don't
BingoBoingo: Blog the details. It's friday night. Two and a half days to SEO it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in other twists, not only is neither key in the cr50 fw image i have, but the verification routine does not correspond to the 'open' sores.
BingoBoingo: From what I understand the Venezolana's special friend is staying here for the duration.
BingoBoingo: And the Peruana absolutely adores me and does bed and bathroom well, but... she can be very boring
BingoBoingo: The venezolana has a special friend she ran away to Uruguay with. She lives with the friend's family and the two girls share a bed.
mircea_popescu: maybe she ran away then!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo btw, did you have the common decency of introducing them ? << Was scheduled for next week
mircea_popescu: "hey guys, did you know your key has mathematically unsound but computably useful pseudoinverse ?"
mircea_popescu: this would then equally afflict phuctored and unphuctored key
mircea_popescu: as an obvious possibly : there's some error that creates a functional inverse out of an unrelated numbar.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it remains to be determined exactly how to go about signing with a key that doesn't have a mult inv. i suspect that in this puzzler also lies the answer to how the infamous 'mirrored' mods were fired in the field.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 2nd key ( http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/620344B54A5B77C0D59A9A430097097B0A13758B9902F0593BBF0C7929F4F857 ) stood. i therefore suspect that i did not make any mistake in conversion.
BingoBoingo: With the apartment key scheduled to monday and the friend girl gone, this could be a very stressful period of time for the Peruana
BingoBoingo: In other news the venezolana is back to Venezuala for 3.5 weeks starting tomorrow to take care of her now late father's affairs
mircea_popescu: yeah, or maybe the aliens.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> meanwhile in "i have nfi how this game is played", https://78.media.tumblr.com/86a15e945803ef886f2686209efa7dc5/tumblr_od2ygdgPdj1r1ds4io1_1280.jpg << Maybe massive trade to kill the queens in the G column
asciilifeform: ( spoiler : same snoar as all other pseudophuctors, no actual keyz posted )
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ge2OC/?raw=true << the txt crapola, for entomologists strictly
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the bit i have yet to unravel is why it thinks there's change to generate
mircea_popescu: im not curling some pdf, fuck 'em, let them learn how to use the web if they want to spread their drivel.
mircea_popescu: there you go.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://cansecwest.com/slides/2017/CSW2017_Enrico_Branca_What_if_encrypted_communications_are_not_as_secure.pdf << yet another faux phuctor
asciilifeform: btw to complete the lulz, http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F60619EE250B3A56C6676CEBA8260E8AF057DE12446829A25BA36B638174A2ED
mircea_popescu: culture of superficial witnits, why not set down the famous fischer-panno or something of kasparov's or w/e.
mircea_popescu: how they managed to waste all the rooks with most of the pawns still in the way is an exercise left to the specialists.
asciilifeform: well actually there's an obvious 2nd.
mircea_popescu: the cheap lultrap dun seem directed at you.
asciilifeform: for all i know, actual mod in the livefire fw is entirely diff, and this one is a cheap lultrap
asciilifeform: if nobody finds obvious mistake, i guess i'ma have to pull an actual enemy signature out of the binariola, and see wtf
asciilifeform: the perplexing thing, supposing there is no eggog in my toolchain, that the mod dun have a multiplicative inverse, it is unclear to me how the fuckers could've signed with it
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 18:03 asciilifeform: in other lulz, nobody noticed this puzzler, so i'ma put it in the l0gz : https://archive.li/i7BRf << cr50 magic rsa keys; the montgomery multiplier etc uses hardcoded constant, 96 word ( i.e. 3072 bit ) for the mults, but the keyblobs are 97 , for some strange reason, in size...
ben_vulpes: but shitting in other hand
asciilifeform: in other noose.....
ben_vulpes: pretty confident that there's no dust at play, so i'll look for this min fee config
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's either a) dust inputs you don't know about or b) min fee config conflict.
ben_vulpes: mod6: see that's why i asked for a spot check on the maths
mircea_popescu: if you try to send it with a lower fee than the level you set it to use it'll throw an error ; the rule for trb is to throw useless incomprehensible if not outright misguiding errors.
mod6: are you trying to empty the wallet and are somehow off by a few satoshi?
ben_vulpes: i wasn't aware that it was 50ksat/byte, no, but nevertheless trb shouldn't even be aware of that. orthogonal issue, isn't it?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes current fees per byte are more in the 50k satoshi range you're aware. it kinda jumped, https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactionfees.html#3m
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 3467 is the value i get with that algo
ben_vulpes: next thing i'm going to try is manually walk the spend-to-self down by 100 satoshis until this trb shits a tx out and then look at what it produces
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes odds are you're either not setting the fee correctly, or else the inputs are so numerous it won't send with the fee you set.
ben_vulpes: well this is a fuckin doozy; i'm trying to get trb to cough up a transaction that spends 0.00420032 to one address, 6.65784110 to another address, and spends 0.00021850 in fees, all of which my arithmetic pad shows summing to 6.66225992 btc, but trb complains of "insufficient funds". can someone doublecheck my maffs?
mircea_popescu: "This is the 3d fucking time Ive deleted this shit, but I keep coming back. I dont know what sex(s) I like yet, so I feel like if I keep labeling my self as something Im not thats not really fair to the person fucking w/ me."
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: iirc you've used lbtc in living memory, what heathen abortion did you use to send to the 3addr? << I used my 0.7 fork
asciilifeform: ( phunphakt, leo theremin joined kpss in... 1991. asked why, 'i promised my friend, lenin' )
mircea_popescu: and o look, hardware theremin!
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: iirc you've used lbtc in living memory, what heathen abortion did you use to send to the 3addr?
mircea_popescu: if jew harp is jew harp therefore saw is polak mandolin ?
mircea_popescu: you know the 90s pantsuit story about "black kid practiced for president with" uh no sorry, the other one
mircea_popescu: admittedly my violining guidebook is both shorter and significantly different from the commonly held.
mircea_popescu: you mean with the hammer or in general ?
mircea_popescu: or, in recent quotes, "I don't believe that I am the right person to join your lifestyle. Especially since I am very new to this side. I don't have experience and your lifestyle seems a bit intimidating for me, as a beginner."
mircea_popescu: well... by luscious nude virgins, as the case may be, but yes.
mircea_popescu: nobody's leting fenrir off the chain simply to steal your coupla grand or what is it.
mircea_popescu: moreover, considering the sums involved here, you can simply not gas.
asciilifeform: once it's been sent to a 1actualbitcoinaddr, the usual dynamics (e.g. traditional '6 conf') apply
mircea_popescu: leaving the will aside, this is only feasible for short time intervals.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile 1address bitcoin that was in a 3address at any point can be spent by the above anyone, but not at any time. at only such a time as he's willing and capable to replace the chain with an alt chain.
mircea_popescu: to review this : 3address bitcoin can be spent to proper 1address bitcoin by ~anyone~, at ~any time~. in practice these anyone and any time variables will be set by the miner cartel that finally pulls the plug on the 3address shitshow.
asciilifeform: different matter is how many block's worth of confirm you want to wait to cover the horror with, before carrying on
ben_vulpes: once one has the 3coin, it's a single transaction to transmute into a 1coin iirc? or did we settle on "anything with a 3 in the transactionhistory is badshit"
asciilifeform: proper for 3heathen
ben_vulpes: motherfucker, localbitcoins uses multisig deposit addresses
mod6: the wooden hammer fountain
mircea_popescu: for my own needs i go with "neet who '''learned things''' from websites". there's a significant contingent of these, and they all behave the exact same way because they never were in school and so they don't have reflexivity in their toolbox. you propose to just ban the whole class ?
mircea_popescu: KimuSan^ come back later/whatever with a diff key, and don't say things you shouldn't say which you can't possibly know in advance hence the "read logs" thing.
mircea_popescu: comes right back to, "you wasted prime whip leather on what might have been a beetle"
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between saying "alf lost his privkey" and "nobody lost privkey"
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a significant difference between rg you link and this. at the time i did that, "rg" was well known, the measure was protective.
phf: mircea_popescu: keybase can also be used to store private keys, it's my understanding that the person in question put his private key on keybase http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828688
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 14:20 KimuSan^: I place A privkey there.
asciilifeform: pub ? none. but when d00d proclaims that his priv is public -- then what.
asciilifeform: this is rather like being unclear on which end of pistol the bullet goes out of. danger to self and others.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 14:20 KimuSan^: I place A privkey there.
asciilifeform: ( my verdict was based strictly on the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828688 utterance. and it ain't even clear whether d00d knows what is priv vs pub... )
asciilifeform: then can proceed with building identity.
asciilifeform: what he oughta begin with, is to make new ( what'll he lose ) pub, and try ~not~ sending the priv to clinto.
mircea_popescu: beating works in the harem, applied to women ~that love you~. can't go around beating perfect strangers, can you ?
mircea_popescu: not the point. the point is that you're attempting to apply a stick to a donkey that's not even there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sin is not that his otherwise healthy pubkey got snarfed by kb
mircea_popescu: if i feel like it i can put your pubkey on keybase, asciilifeform ; what then ?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/getting-your-messages-out-of-the-shitpile-called-fetlife/ << Trilema - Getting your messages out of the shitpile called Fetlife.
asciilifeform: unused wrds , from the sores, 0x7a8ee958 and 0x5ec138fd respectively.
asciilifeform: ( or , alternatively, they tacked on 32bits of ??? just for lulz ?? )
asciilifeform: nao we'll see if the schmucks actually generated 3104-bit key and procrusted it...
asciilifeform: ^ the 3072 bits that actually get rsa'd on
asciilifeform: in other lulz, nobody noticed this puzzler, so i'ma put it in the l0gz : https://archive.li/i7BRf << cr50 magic rsa keys; the montgomery multiplier etc uses hardcoded constant, 96 word ( i.e. 3072 bit ) for the mults, but the keyblobs are 97 , for some strange reason, in size...
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 14:06 KimuSan^: Name's Kim, and I am just another fellow geek, advocate of free speech and liberation of the internet.
mircea_popescu: is good, every part of who you are and what you do isn't worth a moment of my time. So how about you move out of your mother's spare room and grow a pair Oh and fuck off."
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 03:42 phf: well for one, they all talk like the doms they've seen on tv, "i bore me now" "run along little pet" i mean what's next "beg, worm"?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828640 << literally, "Christ, you are as dumb as a sack of dead cats. You're nothing more than an idiotic little boy with his dick in his hand. How about you drop your dick, because it's as limp as your sense of humour I'd rather set myself on fire and die screaming than have you touch me...but I'm sure other women have told you that Everything you enjoy, everything you think
BingoBoingo running around trying to finish the tramite that gets a door with a lock
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828477 << ack, ty for letting me know. I'll try sshing in tonight to rule out webserver failure before I flag down BB to check out the situation manually. (I must say, it is a good feeling knowing that nowhere in this troubleshooting cycle will I need to interface with orcs.)
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 03:29 mircea_popescu: d consider having as my mentor at an actual event in person. Anything else is extra. Otherwise, you can reread my profile. I'm not to be tamed and I am not taking in any submissives.
asciilifeform: when beelzebub created the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828612 chix, he still had beetles in stock. nao, seems, ran out...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the old legend where man buys a watch at flea market, 'it ticks, worx', goes home and there is a little beetle inside, 'ticking' ?
asciilifeform: gotta be the most spectacular speshul-olympics champion logged to date.
mircea_popescu: lmao he's here to drink tea and kick ass, and the tea levels running low...
diana_coman: o.O he can at least come back, there is that
asciilifeform: these used to be at least entertaining, sometimes. nowadays simply sad.
diana_coman: possibly several times until it stops going in a loop among other things
asciilifeform: KimuSan^: i recommend to read log for 6 months, then come back , supposing you've learned anything.
asciilifeform: lol 'baby steps' where keybase dossiers the plaintexts
diana_coman: baby steps is when baby tries to walk for real - with all the bumps and crying that happens; it's not when baby "walks" by having parent holding it in the air and moving its legs as if it was walking, all the time saying for good measure "you are walking baby, yeee"
diana_coman: KimuSan^, mno, it's called many things and none of them any good
diana_coman: and at any rate you haven't actually answered the question: why ?
diana_coman: KimuSan^, you are effectively saying "I want my father to get X but he can't or won't so I feed him something that *looks* like X and that's great because reasons"
asciilifeform: KimuSan^: how , precisely , does keybase differ from the key escrow db clinton tried to make mandatory ?
KimuSan^: Well don't know about you, but I prefer my communication to be private if needed. Telling that to my old father is close to impossible. Getting him on keybase actually thaught him a lot about why and how. These days we encrypt all communication - even if it is just via a key he uploaded to keybase.
KimuSan^: Actually my privkey is in my hardware key on my body. What I have I keybase is what I need in order to communicate with others. I see keybase as a good gateway drug to actually get people to start encrypting and signing coo. S
KimuSan^: I place A privkey there.
asciilifeform: KimuSan^: consider reading the log
asciilifeform: KimuSan^: what do you do with the students ?
asciilifeform: KimuSan^: i recommend to read the chan log, http://btcbase.org/log/ , and make use of the search.
KimuSan^: Writen is mostly in print or in letters to local politicians. Besides this I help university students in my spare time and spread my word there..
asciilifeform: i dun see any writing in these links, only a half meg of javascript (ugh) and what loox like empty blog template
asciilifeform: ( 'i am an advocate of x and y' implies having written something? or do you advocate it at the local pub )
KimuSan^: Well you can find me on many sites and all fully public. Disconnected.tech, Schulz.kim Schulz.dk and the trails from there.
KimuSan^: Then came across a great article on looper-os and decided to see if there were more interesting stuff in here.
asciilifeform: if anything, quite the opposite
KimuSan^: Well I came across a mention of this place when looking for how well anonymous hosting worked these days... As in paid with (mostly) untraceable crypto and hosted without any mention of ownership etc.
KimuSan^: Name's Kim, and I am just another fellow geek, advocate of free speech and liberation of the internet.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 18:26 mircea_popescu: Mocky it's not much, superficially, but it has a lot of downstream. because this is the ~fundamental~ rot of "foss" : that impotent dweebs latch on to it not because of the lofty theoretical goals, but strictly because of the very direct if unspoken power equation, "if i be friends with these guys then girls will be forced ot insert my penis in their vagina by themselves".
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 15:33 asciilifeform: Mocky: to function as a troo vtronicist, gotta grasp the concept, described by e.g. dijkstra, that a line of code you have written is not an asset, but an expense. (specifically, an expense against the time budget of other thinking people, who must read and grasp what you have written. )
Mocky: This much is obvious to anyone who has worked with code and has half a brain. The lack of this is a good way to spot those with less than half a brain. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828036
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 04:08 mircea_popescu: btw, did we do the "you too can be novelist, buy our narrative card deck and kit" 1800s us entrepreneurialism ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 02:49 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828378 << distinctions like that are often subtle and a matter of taste, but as long as the overal approach is informed now might be a good time to paste what you have.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 21:10 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828348 << http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736830 << I see the discussion threads, but didn't find the post on thetarpit.org
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828452 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828567 <-- aite, I'ma post a signed tarball (scheduling this for sunday), along with some comments on the implementation. apologies for the huge delay.
mircea_popescu: idiots genuinely had this deck, you'd shuffle, deal, and there's another hollywood film.
mircea_popescu: btw, did we do the "you too can be novelist, buy our narrative card deck and kit" 1800s us entrepreneurialism ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the root : some inept, clueless servant girl from the shtetl calling herself "domme", some unemployed railroad worker calling himself "wykeham professor of logic", some fucktard calling himself "working for google", these are all STRICTLY the same thing, of the nature of gomer pyle calling itself a heap and the tv set calling itself Boshiba.
phf: well for one, they all talk like the doms they've seen on tv, "i bore me now" "run along little pet" i mean what's next "beg, worm"?
mircea_popescu: i mean, dating sites are ~100% Mechanize::blabla ; but the facebooks twitters etc not yet.
mircea_popescu: part of the effort is me aspiring to divinity, evidently, but part is exactly that curiosity.
asciilifeform: twist : shitlife co. wrote eliza to emulate these chix!!11
phf: asciilifeform: i imagine mp casts a wide net, but it's the "doms" that provide most luls
phf: is humor, see, ivan, they think center of earth, but really asshole of america
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: enlighten me, do reformatted 'domme' make better pets ? or why else to bother with such
mircea_popescu: because that's what fucking happens ; the potato-plenty has resulted in potato-jaws on potato-skulls.
mircea_popescu: the provincialism of ustards is not even infuriating it's so god damned subhuman.
mircea_popescu: because THIS is what it fucking is, you understand me ? 100% no exceptiopns this. "25F domme" ==== usgtarded "scientist" ; and "hermeneutics, that european branch" === "boise, is where ima find my life, and the ummin and thurin stones the angel of morons left behind for me"
mircea_popescu: LordMPofTMSR 37M Master In fucken boise ?! Aaaalright, there's silly, then there's dumb, then there's this, not even sure what to call it. Boise, I guess. Have a great one.
mircea_popescu: d consider having as my mentor at an actual event in person. Anything else is extra. Otherwise, you can reread my profile. I'm not to be tamed and I am not taking in any submissives.
mircea_popescu: unsolicited 25F Domme "Do you find this pompous bullshit approach ever delivers anything ?" Ha. Back at ya. People can read into words with whatever tone or inflection they'd care to imagine. If you think I have to try at all, you're mistaken. I have minimal information on my profile coupled with few photos and I'm already getting new notifications and messages daily. I'm more than happy to wait to organically meet someone I'
mircea_popescu: unsolicited 25F Domme "How about you drop whate..." Is all your subject line shows to me. From glancing at your profile, I assume it was a half ass attempt to order me to do or not do something. Either way, you bore me. Yawn.
mircea_popescu: "Hermeneutics, a branch of continental European philosophy concerned with human understanding and the interpretation of written texts, offers insights that may contribute to the understanding of meaning, translation, architectures for natural language understanding, and even to the methods suitable for scientific inquiry in AI. After briefly reviewing the historical development of hermeneutics as a method of interpretation, t
mircea_popescu: motherfucker this thing is offensive.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 00:23 asciilifeform: lol paywall. but asciilifeform can't even be arsed to excavate the warez, pg1 says it all
mircea_popescu remembers the good old days when parsing was done ~by the keyboard~, as in the z80 basic.
asciilifeform: 'tis much better imho to include some handsewn 'bytecode' in an array init value, that'd implement the parsing, than the ts-style procedural approach
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 02:49 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828378 << distinctions like that are often subtle and a matter of taste, but as long as the overal approach is informed now might be a good time to paste what you have.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828567 << ideally would be the smallest working 'fits in head' lisp, no frills ( no gc, etc )
mod6: I've been able to build out the rpc calls without all kinds of crazy class changes to the rest of the code, thus far at least.
mod6: No worries. This all stems from the failed back-port.
asciilifeform if it wasnt clear, highly disrecommends the continued use of shiva/tscheme for anyffing trb-related
mod6: Ah, no. After the educational dive and I have something that works, could take that knowledge and implement it differently perhaps.
mircea_popescu: mod6 oh i thought you were using the tinyscheme
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 18:57 spyked: asciilifeform, yes, found w4rez. and used it as reference. and the lisp evaluator works on simple programs (implemented most higher-order functions in it), but the code is organized like crap. and I'm not sure I made the correct cut between "builtin procedures" and e.g. keywords such as "lambda".
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828378 << distinctions like that are often subtle and a matter of taste, but as long as the overal approach is informed now might be a good time to paste what you have.
mod6: I did the others, and sendrawtransaction last year. Getting closer to a point where I can at least test and see where it stands.
mod6: The rawtx stuff I've been working on, just is with the old rpc interface. It's going alright, btw, working through the signrawtransaction part. It's a bit hairy.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 16:13 mircea_popescu: phf there were takers, mod6 working on rawtx recall ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827972 << i was trying to figure out how that would happen on same machine between invocations until i realized that's neither the issue nor what is going on
asciilifeform: sentences, supposedly , now >= for murder, this hasn't , reportedly, cut down on the queue of treasure-buriers.
asciilifeform: there's a ~separate species of dopehead nao, who go 'treasure hunting' without having paid; sometimes get beaten
asciilifeform: 'take these film canisters and bury in places x, y, z, in such-and-such park'
asciilifeform: the young'uns see it as 'easy money'
a111: Logged on 2013-04-04 19:43 asciilifeform: and virtually nobody appears to be the least bit interested in my (or anyone else's) ideas for cutting the fiat world out of the loop (I suggested product delivery via dead drops, flying machines, other crackpot nuttery)
a111: Logged on 2013-04-04 19:17 asciilifeform: consider a hardware widget that receives a single-use CC number (for $X) from a hypothetical BTC-enabled bank and writes it to a blank physical ATM card, when you send the bank $X equiv. of BTC.
mircea_popescu: anyway, whatever, it's the best they can do because it's what they need to believe to continue in the vein of idiocy and so on. whatevs, they really are their own adequate punishments.
asciilifeform: ( recently it came out, incidentally, that many nato reich 'universities' can no longer afford to feed the paywalls they themselves throw crapola behind )
mircea_popescu: the whole bumbling edifice of them, "oh, moron idiotssen's ~~~contribution~~~ to mathematics is pointing out that spheres are perfect figures"
asciilifeform: his 'terminal', running with the analogy, is a winblowz shell. no grep.
mircea_popescu: his history | grep returned no direct matches and that's it, because he has had a terminal open since the dawn of philosophy and also his regexp magically sees through indirection.
mircea_popescu: this moron literally DID NOT KNOW the position is not even novel, stupid as it may be.
mircea_popescu: in any case, it's the necessary collision of that whole process when it finally loses historicity, and "something new" is "inept bullshit smoked by schoolchildren nine centuries ago"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828522 << quite exactly, very much in the sense of ... damn, where's that discussion in the logs about the idiot who perceives it's more productive to her to say "something new" than something meaningful ?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 16:08 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/i1Usl << from same fishwrap >> 'Two members of the US Army National Guard have been convicted of running a credit card fraud scheme involving bitcoin... using bitcoins to purchase stolen credit and debit card numbers... using magnetic strip re-encoding tools to apply stolen numbers to dummy cards, after which they would buy merchandise from Army and Air Force Exchange Service stores at US military bases, as well a
a111: Logged on 2014-02-13 01:04 asciilifeform: incidentally, if the avaricious idiots move everybody to RFID cards sans crypto challenge/response (as appears to be the plan) - every ATM becomes a btc-ATM.
asciilifeform: re the giftcard thing, vintage lultrain comes to mind, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-13#499338 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667724
asciilifeform: lol paywall. but asciilifeform can't even be arsed to excavate the warez, pg1 says it all
asciilifeform: does this live on the net somewhere
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can haz link re the current-day sad-wykeham ?
mircea_popescu: since we're doing "ancient trilemas apparently nobody read", i guess could also add http://trilema.com/2012/advertising-on-digitalpoint/ (which'd have been the natural comparison point to the "digitalpoint advertising report" i'm guessing absolutely is not getting done, unless i put it on hanbot's plate or something. blergh.)
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the quite obvious question of why would one even entertain a wanna-be bitcoin thing that's uppity enough to not be here in the first place.
mircea_popescu: to put it shortly, one line here is ~infinity% the advertising any such item can produce for you. they have 0 base.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828492 << the results are bad in the sense discussed in http://trilema.com/2012/coinurl-a-bitcoin-advertising-service/ / http://trilema.com/2015/minigame-smg-june-2015-statement/#footnote_3_62044
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 22:23 asciilifeform: https://archive.li/cwjsO << vintage lul via the hoare thing. rapee was given... medal.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 22:35 ben_vulpes: hanbot: did you only cover debit cards in "state of the cards" and not gift cards because buying gift cards with btc is a terrible idea for some reason?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 21:49 hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828147 << that fucking movie. first, i was pissed off none of the characters were capable of saying ~anything~ of substance about [finance, trading, anything-at-all], then i realized it's an accurate portrayal. still not sure if the thing's deliberately honest or all responsible are so clueless the kitsch was actually supposed to impress.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828463 << in the usual poltronish manner of the place, they'll argue both.
mod6: thanks for the update BingoBoingo
ben_vulpes: who look to have bounced off the early republic sometime in 2014
ben_vulpes: same with the affiliate thing; 'a-ads'; i know mircea_popescu said that nobody uses anything but clickbank, but i can't pay 'em in btc and the amlkyc is thick over there as well; so, fifty bucks, see how bad the results can possibly be
asciilifeform: iirc this type of shop popped up periodically in the olden days
ben_vulpes: incidentally, first btc affiliate program i've found in the wild, so will probably throw some change at them as well to see what comes of that
asciilifeform: (i.e. they're blue-usg, live on 'oh we are so censored'-by-redusg , more so than on bread )
asciilifeform: re shithub-hosted 'dox' -- asciilifeform suspects that it is same dynamic as the oh-so-'oppressed' sov poet types who sent their megaworx straight to союз писателей , to be reliably oh-so-censored , rather than samizdat, for the obvious reason
ben_vulpes: hanbot: did you only cover debit cards in "state of the cards" and not gift cards because buying gift cards with btc is a terrible idea for some reason?
asciilifeform: 'The honours were created in 1917 by King George V during the First World War as a way of rewarding civilians and servicemen in support positions for their contribution to the war effort. Now they are used to recognise an achievement or service to the community in any area, such as the arts, charity or education. According to the Cabinet Office, an MBE is given for an "outstanding achievement or service to the community.'
asciilifeform: the Pantsuit Iron Cross, or sumthing.