asciilifeform: ( or rather, flip at least 1 bit in each half of it)
asciilifeform: the routine linked earlier to mircea_popescu , prolly dun help us much, to activate it one must somehow corrupt the entire rom
asciilifeform: (3) is the actual routine that forces keyid to be one of the 2 , we will call'em hitler key #1 and #2 , the latter is http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2F5EC26698365939D499561F385A39A4217604DEB38913D71AFD135B28009DAF , the former i have not converted yet (along with #0 ).
asciilifeform: one of them is that it pins (forces the payload pubkeys to be one of the 2 given), the two options are seen in (4)
asciilifeform: (2) is the ro (sorta misnomer, it is upgradeable) rsa checker routine, it is very loosely based on the ancient published one seen in https://github.com/coreboot/chrome-ec/blob/b9f5a3d6baae84950f5ff0c4f7c588e55944818a/chip/g/loader/launch.c , but with a few twists
asciilifeform: going in order: (1) is the sig header tested by the boot maskrom ( contents not known, but can be guessed at, it has 1 hard-wired pubkey ). this we will call cr50 hitler key #0 . it cannot be changed by fw updater.
asciilifeform: in other publish-or-perish : ...i'ma prolly burn in hell for this, but ida shits out wincrapola line endings and so for now these 'pre-print' screenshits will have to do :
lobbes: I can see it. It is true my only exposure in my life to kids thus far has been the unrestrained wildebeasts of the US-variety.
diana_coman: lobbes, the part that is not obvious when you see only random kids is that they learn what *you* show them; so if you make it clear work time and get them busy at that time etc there's no problem really
diana_coman: ah, no, work time is work time, can't really mix them
lobbes: I used to think I wanted kids, but really, I'm starting to see the 'pyramid scheme' angle talked about in the logs
diana_coman set up The Incredible Machine dos-version even for said child and he's totally hooked
lobbes: text files don't jump out at you every day in the same manner
lobbes: I need one of these whiteboards everyone talks about
mircea_popescu: like ye olde ;;google worked but really, no reason to have google still involved in any web process (in fact, i very much recommend iptable-blocking all their ip ranges, because whether you know or not, 80% or so of websites out there tattle back to usg.alphabet, via "google analytics" or w/e else)
lobbes: well sure. but now he's got the options covered!
mircea_popescu: there's something to be said for shitting in company!
mircea_popescu: well, until he gets to the point where he has a girl to lick him clean because tp's too rough, at any rate.
BingoBoingo: I was told the way to do that tramite is over the telephone in the dead of night to experience less hold music
BingoBoingo: Next stop the tramite de luz
BingoBoingo: But its official. I now have the keys.
BingoBoingo: Imma have to find where the Chinese that aren't recent arrival WTC suit guys are hiding
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 17:01 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829419 << here's a pro tip : the chinese own the argentine supply chain (all those "supermercados") and, to a lesser but present degree uruguayan. they have a very powerful informal banking system, for one thing, meaning that if you know one or two of the old chinese women handling their repatriation of cash needs you're in a prime position to move millions, as i can personally confirm from
asciilifeform: fwiw ru emigres (esp of the elderly sort) often stuck in exact same mode
mircea_popescu: tell them "i am a lord of this republic thingee, looking for a female chinese slave", see what they say.
asciilifeform: can even make a sort of conversation with these, once succeed in snapping'em out of that human ant mode where the most interesting thing in the universe is the petrol station where 2cents cheaper etc
mircea_popescu: anyway, they prolly lub you, seems to be alf traits muchly valued in "'when i hear 'culture', i reach for my pistol" china.
mircea_popescu: the engrish is so fucking flavour-specific, too.
mircea_popescu: russkis, you know, the only reason they still exist anymore than poland today is that they're the only white people that can find anything attractive in the balls-of-lank.
mircea_popescu: well then you're doomed.
mircea_popescu: the problem is significantly compounded by the fact absolutely nobody wants to fuck the ugly dyspepsia victims they spawn. those are women ?! in what bugworld.
mircea_popescu: what, she's gonna http://archive.is/JHLA3#selection-199.49-199.83 ? that's neither fucking useful not in any sense interesting, another http://trilema.com/2014/leonard-cohen-and-what-his-unhappy-life-can-teach-us/#selection-55.19-55.45
mircea_popescu: and similarily, i use my own whores to recruit young'uns ; but the chinese use their mothers. because what can you possibly do with an old woman ? what's she for in this world, if she isn't lubing up the teens and showing them how to fold their legs, a la http://trilema.com/2015/carnita/ ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 14:54 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-24#1829343 << El Kiki or another? Everyone here has a mochila
mircea_popescu: gatekeeper, keeps everyone happy. and in this sort of excellence of employment, the benefit of multi-millenary civilisation shows.
mircea_popescu: can't let him own the place, like fucktarded whitey. it's no good. can't throw him out on the street. wut do ?
mircea_popescu: some of these people might even observe he's still there later that day, and early or late the next day, and so on. so they might politely approach, and state their business, "respectable old man, chow dicks sent me from fuk-u province, i must so and so". and the old man will politely tell you to come back so and so later and so on.
mircea_popescu: often, [one of] their intakes (ie, like this place) will be a large chinese restaurant. in this busy, cheap place most people come to eat. some people who come to eat also notice the elderly gentleman sitting quietly in the back somewhere at a table, usually by himself, having tea if anything.
mircea_popescu: but of course, their idea of culture has nohing to see with what the wykeham professor of cocksucking might've told obama rice or condolezza hussein or whatever.
asciilifeform: i think they 'when i hear 'culture', i reach for my pistol' more or less to a man
asciilifeform has yet to meet the chinese who have a millifuck re anyffing whatsoever but wealth full-bore
mircea_popescu: of course, they're only impressed by two things : a) wealth or b) a mastery of chinese culture. so you're in a bit of a weak spot wrt. but being in a weak spot dun change what the world is.
mircea_popescu: in short, if in latam you want to make contact with the underground chinese republic first week not 2nd year.
mircea_popescu: it comes with other benefits, because they're well connected throughout, if you want a cop fired or a permit bit flipped ("hey, i want my restaurant to serve alcohol" / "hey, i want the restaurant downstairs to lose alcohol license so i can sleep") or whatever else they can probably help.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 14:53 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829350 << We don't have many chinese here other than recent arrival prospectors, but definitely going to start knocking on doors.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829419 << here's a pro tip : the chinese own the argentine supply chain (all those "supermercados") and, to a lesser but present degree uruguayan. they have a very powerful informal banking system, for one thing, meaning that if you know one or two of the old chinese women handling their repatriation of cash needs you're in a prime position to move millions, as i can personally confirm from
mircea_popescu: because to the malbolge programmer, "is %a in %b" implemented as what index of %b is %a at can't be safely >0'd, has to be >1'd.
mircea_popescu: escue, you know, the portion of rescue to regexp if you're too lazy to tease out off by one errors.
asciilifeform: and it does seem to get called in the case when neither half of rom passes rsa sig...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like a pile of magic numbers, vaguely reminiscent of "what letter is on the left bottom of page 23 of manual" crap
mircea_popescu: but to reiterate : there's nothing wrong with a broken, not complete, not working, not pretty etc genesis. most neonates are also not worth the fucking.
asciilifeform: ( not, naturally, any such thing in the public src )
mircea_popescu: we already have a mechanism to deal with irrelevance, there's no need for an ad-hoc, broken, personal implementation whenever something useful may be occuring, to fuck it up.
mircea_popescu: that's the one part of naggum you absolutely do not want.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 06:15 mircea_popescu: this habit of "i'll publish" is on the record having killed more smart men than the police.
mircea_popescu: there is ~no~ benefit to delaying genesis-ification. all it buys one is the naggum stupidity, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829365
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 12:20 spyked: I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach, so I'm not sure yet what the genesis should include. maybe only the lispm piece? or only the spec file from lispm? my sense so far is that after some discussion, at least some of the parts will be rewritten
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829397 << imho a genesis oughta be a proggy, if a minimal one << nah, a genesis can well be nothing more than the manifest, if the manifest is a one line poem.
mircea_popescu: genesis should have included exactly the thing you published.
mircea_popescu: spyked> I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach << that ~started with a genesis~.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/06/25/a-locking-door-gets-nearer/ << Bingo Blog - A Locking Door Gets Nearer
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-24#1829343 << El Kiki or another? Everyone here has a mochila
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 03:01 hanbot: BingoBoingo> Aite, next time I go to the feria to look at kitchen utensils Imma have to bring a latina. "Evwerything on the table is a matched set you won't separate" my ass << fwiw, in my experience the SA chinese shops have actually usable knives/glassware/etc (not cast iron specifically tho), and are guaranteed not to pretensewall, or at least, not in the same manner.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829350 << We don't have many chinese here other than recent arrival prospectors, but definitely going to start knocking on doors.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 20:42 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000281.html
asciilifeform: fwiw it's been in continuous test on zoolag since day1 ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757668 ) ; iirc several other folx also tested ( incl. 'side by side' nodez ) , see what they have ( ben_vulpes ? possibly mircea_popescu )
BingoBoingo: In the first half of today's game Uruguay has scored two goals and Russia has scored two yellow cards. I am starting to suspect winning strategies in futbol (selling your injuries, falling like it is a disaster every time) contribute to the local cultural failures
asciilifeform: mod6: i see it as moar of a bugfix ( a la mircea_popescu's fix of the db locks constant ) rather than troo patch, fwiw
mod6: I might not get to it this week, probably sometime in early july, but I'm going to roll in your aggression vpatch to the foundation patch set as well.
mod6: heheh, bout the same.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 12:20 spyked: I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach, so I'm not sure yet what the genesis should include. maybe only the lispm piece? or only the spec file from lispm? my sense so far is that after some discussion, at least some of the parts will be rewritten
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829397 << imho a genesis oughta be a proggy, if a minimal one, that introduces some basic functionality of the larger item ( as seen in ffa ch1 ) , rather than a placeholder, '[this is genesis and blah and other things will also go here]' -- if this makes sense
spyked: ave1, that's actually a good point. I'll put it on the todo list.
ave1: Well, rewriting would be helped by a genesis, discussion likewise (then the patches can be on btcbase and refered to in the log...)
spyked: I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach, so I'm not sure yet what the genesis should include. maybe only the lispm piece? or only the spec file from lispm? my sense so far is that after some discussion, at least some of the parts will be rewritten
ave1: spyked, nice implementation, so far the lispm code seems to fit in my head!
a111: Logged on 2018-06-25 03:52 asciilifeform: spyked: prolly i oughta elaborate re the item in your 4th footnote. a compact lisptron has no particular reason to have any notions of parsing baked in; all it needs is 1) a basic i/o mechanism 2) a way to load an initial pre-built s-expression into the working memory and immediately evaluate it.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829352 <-- this makes perfect sense and I expect works not only for the read, but also for the print portion of the loop.
lobbes: this is the point huh? Goal should really be to answer question of 'can mp-wp run on rockchip?'
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even cares if it ever gets fixed or not. the only point of interest, really, is ~what is it ?!?!~. teh thirst for knowledge.
mircea_popescu: you know ? the worst outcome of that approach is if it [seemed to] work.
lobbes: this is very true. in the back of my head was this lingering 'maybe this'll magic all the problems away'. damn head cockroaches
mircea_popescu: every solution to a problem, in terms of medicine rather than shamanism, comes with a definition of the problem first and foremost.
mircea_popescu: don't just throw caching layers at speed problems, this isn't the 90s anymore.
mircea_popescu: if you have slow mysql queries (always a possiblity, with cockamamie themes / handspun php etc), ask mysql about it, it'll know.
mircea_popescu: you think more caching's the solution ?
mircea_popescu: mysql already caches queries ; apache already caches queries ; your os already caches memory (and the disk already caches the disk) and THEN the processor already caches instruction pipelines
lobbes: I'm going to try to get some server-side caching going. Though mysql error logs dun complain about lack of resources or anything, so I'm not 100% sure it'll help. And it's not like the Rockchip was running out of memory either (had over 1.5 GB of available RAM during the downage)
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829073 << after some investigation it appears that either mysql and/or php is the issue. In other words, stopping the mysql server (thus killing mp-wp) yields the ability load static 'non-mp-wp' pages that otherwise timeout when the server is running
mircea_popescu: what the fuck.
mircea_popescu: this habit of "i'll publish" is on the record having killed more smart men than the police.
phf: apparently the reason i don't remember getting the archive is because there was no archive. "release ... is planned" "i'll publish ... before i do that ..."
a111: Logged on 2018-05-31 21:40 phf: i remember seeing the archive.org version of the relevant page, but i think the correspond tar.gz was not in archive, and i gave up tryin to track it down
phf: trinque is a man of responsibility, checks on log on the way to naked girl
trinque: dunno what these other idiots in shitlandia, but as for us, can gather 60 in one place and have a riot, end of world or not.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-24 19:02 PeterL: trinque: on http://trinque.org/2017/12/30/wip-cuntoo-installer/ the links seem to be broken, I tried to leave a comment but I think it got eaten?
asciilifeform: spyked: prolly i oughta elaborate re the item in your 4th footnote. a compact lisptron has no particular reason to have any notions of parsing baked in; all it needs is 1) a basic i/o mechanism 2) a way to load an initial pre-built s-expression into the working memory and immediately evaluate it.
asciilifeform: oh hey the adalisp
hanbot: BingoBoingo> Aite, next time I go to the feria to look at kitchen utensils Imma have to bring a latina. "Evwerything on the table is a matched set you won't separate" my ass << fwiw, in my experience the SA chinese shops have actually usable knives/glassware/etc (not cast iron specifically tho), and are guaranteed not to pretensewall, or at least, not in the same manner.
mircea_popescu: now we know how they do versioning, log(failure).
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, i am pleased to report that firefox 45 has about a degree of magnitude more memory-related crashes than firefox 10.
deedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/074-adalisp-prototype.html << The Tar Pit - An early Lisp scriptlang prototype in Ada
BingoBoingo: Now generally the venezualans doing the robbing can work the ak. In Uruguay the robbers can't even do that.
mircea_popescu: sorta like the venezuelans.
mircea_popescu: the idea is to NOT have an alternative, the idea is for ~new york~ lots to be like that.
mircea_popescu: PeterL yes, but the problem it suffers from is the problem africa suffers from : all the brains drained out.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 17:29 mircea_popescu: instead of you having to contend with 5mn other idiots trying to live in the same state ; you have to contend with only 50k. as a result, all real estate available consists of plots in excess of 50 acres, which include a creek, and forest. goes for the same price as you pay now, but it is what it is.
mircea_popescu: try as he might (not that he does), /me can't summon any sympathy for the "oh, it should be someone else's job, if i see police coming in i don't pick a rifle and man a post, hurr" barnacles.
BingoBoingo: Thusly the vigilantes practice surrendering fast enough to not die and still have an abysmal survival rate
mircea_popescu: right, they just want to.
BingoBoingo: Gotta understand Latinos like their rituals. Sacrificial Vigilante with a pump shotgun mans the front desk and... isn't that enough security for any Latino?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Wasn't too big of concern in her zone. Anyways the SOP there is crew drives truck to apartment building, sweeps whole building for valuables. Police follow and sweep building for valuables.
BingoBoingo: The stories out of Venezuala when it comes to breaking and entering...
mircea_popescu: anyway, he has a point, brazil mexico and venezuela are the champs.
BingoBoingo: And Brasileros tend to have a temperment that lets them safely get mugged.
asciilifeform: PeterL: i dun think FG will work there either, winblowz doesn't give a handy knob for serial devices afaik
mircea_popescu: mexico city nervously smokes in the corner, 500/day or what was it.
mircea_popescu: PeterL put the whole thing in a vps running on an arm machine if at all possible and there you go!
brazilish: from what i assist on local newspaper, in a city of almost 2M there are at least 10 homicides a day, usually 8 drug related and 2 random folk that hasn't handed out properly money related
asciilifeform: PeterL: out of curiosity, what chapter you built ? ( i can't picture how the /dev/random thing could work on winblowz, say )
mircea_popescu: and so when i say "the link between two bit whores and any english-speaking earth science academic is the bottle of american cola the two bit whores shoved up their butts", i'm misrepresenting the relationsip. even if they are, factually, the stupid sons of human scum.
BingoBoingo: It's why December all of Brazil flocks here. To go to the beach and smoke mountains of weed without being mugged.
mircea_popescu: PeterL the "just so" part. there is also a link between how fucking stupid they are and their mother being a sleazy cunt, but that link is not the bottle of fizz she inserted as a roadside act.
PeterL: mircea_popescu: there is a link between the solubility of carbonates and temperature, what is wrong with their statement?
asciilifeform: PeterL: your will be laden with all kindsa crud in the bin
asciilifeform: PeterL: gprbuild is what applies the restrictions, so what you build is not quite ffa
PeterL: asciilifeform: in the interests of science, I built your ffa on a windows system and it appears to work. For some reason gprbuild didn't work, but when I used gnatmake I got a working executable. (I also had to mangle v.py in the process to make it work on my system)
BingoBoingo: Busses here more or less run on time and go everywhere. Crime consists of bag snatching and jumps from there straight to robbing exchanges and casinos
brazilish: people use to place dinheiro in their shoes, if they can afford them and don't have to use flip flop
mircea_popescu: "Whats more, just as carbonated soda fizzes when it warms up, warmer temperatures cause the ocean to release carbon dioxide taken up during colder periods." holy shit these imbeciles with the "climate science" claptrap, they're strictly unreadable by now. just as the cocke fucked their mother.
BingoBoingo: The wonders of being alive now
mircea_popescu: well you're both in luck, pantsuit wank notwithstanding the data shows we're headed to an ice age.
brazilish: i like the climate here because if you have shadow and minimal ventilation you can live, but that's of course a reason about the shitload of poor people that can survive virtually doing nothing
BingoBoingo: brazilish: If you are ok with studio apartments those are hella overbuilt here. In some barrios there is minimal premium to rent recent construction if you look enough.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-24#1829199 << lol these come in erry 6mo or so nao, don't they
brazilish: BingoBoingo: that's the reason of totally avoiding min >20°C parts of south america
BingoBoingo: brazilish: Anyways here they either use propane heaters, electric radiators, or they use their air conditioner as a heat pump
PeterL: speaking of eaten comments, ben_vulpes I tried to put a comment on http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system but that appears to have been eaten as well
mircea_popescu: ("break" is a bit of a joke, you can saw through their wallpaper)
mircea_popescu: the us doesn't even have the holes, if you want windows instead of the idiotic closet doors they install you have to break the walls
brazilish: mircea_popescu: i know your blog after the ethereum disaster, then a couple of weeks ago discovered irc logs
mircea_popescu: well.. then probably no. for one thing uruguay's not cold in any conceivable sense. for the other, latin america is universally a pile of crumbling mess, decolonialization did them in. so yes, if you want sane window fittings you'll have to import the termopan (and possibly the skilled labour to put them in) ; if you want sane heat planht, you gotta import the gas burning ariston or w/e you're using. and so on.
PeterL: trinque: on http://trinque.org/2017/12/30/wip-cuntoo-installer/ the links seem to be broken, I tried to leave a comment but I think it got eaten?
brazilish: but i learned pretty quickly portuguese and so the idea to melt with the population appealed me
BingoBoingo: brazilish: That depends on the barrio
mircea_popescu: brazilish are you from brazil, then ?
mircea_popescu: o look who's here. how's the lab PeterL ?
brazilish: is true that is quite cold, and houses are bad insulated / there is not much heating system in use aside high end houses?
BingoBoingo: brazilish: Register a GPG key with deedbot, keep the private key private, and keep coming back.
brazilish: and to be honest, there is something funny about here, if you talk about slavery or these kind of agreements they comes out instantly with "direitos humanos", but if you just tell that you want anything with her, that's perfectly ok
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'd like it more if there were more brown latinas and less zombie pale folk
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo basically you'd like it if there were a dozen of you and not so many of them ?
BingoBoingo: And the immigrant population doubled
mircea_popescu: brazilish i take slaves, prices kinda meaningless to me. wtf prices ? not like i prostitute the harem.
BingoBoingo: Montevideo would be substantially cooler if the Uruguayo population was halved
brazilish: but don't get me wrong: girls are good and their prices (if any) are also ok. What is very bad is everything that is not sex related
mircea_popescu: experience has shown that there exist two kinds of people in this world : the kind where the greater the agglomeration, the cooler it gets ; and the kind where the greater the agglomeration, the dirtier it gets.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i spent some time in argentina on the vastly supported conspiracy theory that it's a cool place. god help me there's chicken coops cooler than the whole shithole.
brazilish: BingoBoingo: basically 2 seasons: the one when rains a lot for a short period of time, and the one where it rains a lot for a couple of hours
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea in theory ; but the necessary conjugate of any attempt at practical implementation is being ready to pack it and move if it dun work out.
brazilish: My original idea was to do physical price arbitrage, by going there and spending money like a local. Is not going so well
mircea_popescu: brazilish girls can travel. well, the less fucked in the head among them, obviously there's a contingent of boise morons who expect to spawn and die within visual range of where they were spawned in turn.
brazilish: well i enjoy black girls, but never thought that the city was a total mess
mircea_popescu: brazilish so why are you there ?
mircea_popescu: the naming scheme these people use. "petrogardens in the neighbourhood of Prudent President". why not pudenda presidenta, while at it.
brazilish: near the amazon river, humid as fuck
phf: brazilish: you can always wash it by hand. i've disassembled a lot of ebay thinkpads just to wash the frame of all the grease and dirt; but to answer the general question "libre" solutions are guilty until proven innocent around here. the pattern seems to be, find a seemingly unencumbered system, asciilifeform starts taking a look at it, discovers lizard hitler. until step 2 happens, impossible to say anything about the system.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside wix is possibly the shittiest isp ever invented, wtf is a "Jardim Petropolis" ?!
mircea_popescu: brazilish yes, the x60s (pre lenovo hps) for instance.
BingoBoingo: Few ever died getting their own plane ticket
brazilish: checked now a couple of miami box, seems that out of sao paulo they are expensive as fuck, even in my case where there are a couple of flights in the week directly to miami
brazilish: nice to see that with AMD there is something more recent than 2009 btw
BingoBoingo: They don't have Miami Box where you are at?
brazilish: fact is: here in my shitty city all the used stuff that i find is way over used and full of grease, like way too much
BingoBoingo: The talos this is a bit on the expensive side and how far do you REALLY trust IBM to have not molested their POWER architecture?
BingoBoingo: What brings you around these parts?
BingoBoingo: In one case I was looking at a cast iron skillet that wasn't rusted to shit. The vendor wanted to bundle it with a whole bunch of specialty cast iron shit that was rusted to fuckhell.
BingoBoingo: Aite, next time I go to the feria to look at kitchen utensils Imma have to bring a latina. "Evwerything on the table is a matched set you won't separate" my ass
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-deathstar-touched-me-on-the-dolly/ << Trilema - The deathstar touched me on the dolly.
mod6: I'll call these guys and get them to throw in a ~new~ SSD for me this time. Or will just pay out, and find new service.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: by all indications you have a box with iron problem. in your place i'd get a fresh set of iron, rather than sinking sweat into interpreting randomly flipped bits as 'bug' << yeah for sure, it certainly could be related to the disk issue. I don't really think it's a 'bug' or anything.
asciilifeform: this reminds me, not long ago asciilifeform picked up a little chinese toy, item shaped like tennis raquet but the wires are charged to 4000v and connect to (small) cap; a sort of mechanized fly swatter, they pop, little blue plasma burst, vapour. nominally. so then , having used it, later i see a most peculiar insect, did not immediately realize what it is, never having seen before. looked closely, turns out -- fly head + front legs
epony: Don't know where these 11 days come from...
ben_vulpes: epony: still haven't digested the epsilon appetite for nobodies? not obvious in your 11 days reading?
epony: I'll then say "just nobody" :-)
ben_vulpes: chance favors the prepared keyring or what was it.
ben_vulpes: consider, one day, you find yourself inspired to say something, you then go to register a key first? and then conversation gets derailed with "oh ho, look who finally registered a key" or alternatively "oh ho, who are you now?"
epony: put another way, ephemeral is nice
epony: because, why would I want to say anything before getting a feel of the tone of the conversation..
ben_vulpes: put another way, why *not* do it?
ben_vulpes: epony: what do you perceive the cost of registering a key to be?
asciilifeform: ( btw, this does not appear to be in the l0gz as-such, so asciilifeform will note : c was an evil thing from ~birth~. on machines so impoverished that 'c is necessary', oughta be writing in asm; on machines where not necessary -- well, obvious )
ben_vulpes: sarcasm fails me in the face of cpp
asciilifeform: 'this arg parser, with all of the eggog handlings/safeties already weighs 85% of lisp interpreter...'
ben_vulpes: am i thick or does nothing in the rpc take named args already?
asciilifeform: upstack : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829075 << for the record , it withstood (not much surprise) phuctoring (incl. fermat etc)
asciilifeform: or some other name, but idea being that it must be 1) impossible to confuse it with old 2) keywords ~named~, no order dependency plox
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if changing the semantics, i recommend new names ( new commands )
a111: Logged on 2018-06-23 17:59 ben_vulpes: would it be sensible for the send* commands to eat a changeaddress argument?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829108 << the alternative, which would be a smaller patch, is a "setchangeaddr" RPC function. i'm leery of changing the call signatures of sendfrom and sendmany, but doing so might be The Right Thing nevertheless
asciilifeform: the other interesting bit ( from asciilifeform's disasm of the 3.4 fw) is that there doesn't seem to be any pinning of the keys! ( i.e. i can't currently find any reason why it wouldn't eat a rw-fw update signed with a variant key, so long as said key is stuffed in where expected)
asciilifeform was aiming to nail down from what derives what, rather than flooding phf, lel
mircea_popescu: you dare speak in #trilema ?! here's eight lines of stuff from the logs!
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 2 hours and 54 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> other interesting observations: 1) loader is not the same as what appears in the src, in either 3.3 or 3.4 fw bin; not only key differs, but eggog strings, and possibly the rsa per se. 2) seems like : nowhere else in the fw is there any other routine which checksums/rsaverifies the cr50 fw , or references the rsa keyz at all other than to print keyid .
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 3 hours and 6 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828933 >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829007 >> https://github.com/coreboot/chrome-ec/blob/master/chip/g/signed_header.h >>>>> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/ro_signature.txt ( not the only 1, but illustrative )
BingoBoingo: ian flag." << Apparently the whole swiss team is Albanian or Bosnian
BingoBoingo: In miscellani-lulz: "The Serbian football association says it will demand that FIFA take action against Granit Xhaka and Xherdan Shaqiri for their eagle salute goal celebrations in Switzerland’s 2-1 World Cup win in Kaliningrad on Friday. Shaqiri and Xhaka, both of whom were born in Kosovo and are of Albanian descent, celebrated their goals in Switzerland’s comeback win by making an eagle salute in apparent reference to the Alban
a111: Logged on 2016-03-16 15:42 mircea_popescu: both the "shittier than historical" and "new addr for change" bits are satoshi's dubious kludges to protect "anonimity"
ben_vulpes: would it be sensible for the send* commands to eat a changeaddress argument?
asciilifeform: possibly the 2nd dumbest thing shitoshi did, after the mining algo -- the coin fragging nonsense.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 21:55 ben_vulpes: next thing i'm going to try is manually walk the spend-to-self down by 100 satoshis until this trb shits a tx out and then look at what it produces
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828901 << this kind of thing was a multi-week headache for asciilifeform the last time he had to actually uncork the launch codes and move coin; and i expect that it will only ever get worse
asciilifeform: btw i did figure out the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828757 matter -- their key format reserves 1st 4bytes for 'keyid' . but the lulzimplementation pictured in the (useless, doesn't seem to occur in the bin) published 'loader', treats the key as starting there . as i currently understand, couldn't actually work as written, barring some mathematical curio
asciilifeform: since his monumental 'nobody has the keys!' gem, all i saw of him was that 1 time he popped in here and drooled for coupla min.
mircea_popescu: useless, it is true. but expensive nevertheleess.
mircea_popescu: well, the cloud of oricsh morons a la amstan are an expensive luxury.
asciilifeform: summary : google set up what is likely a deliberate bullshit dangle re the loader src; for reasons that are yet unclear
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf other interesting observations: 1) loader is not the same as what appears in the src, in either 3.3 or 3.4 fw bin; not only key differs, but eggog strings, and possibly the rsa per se. 2) seems like : nowhere else in the fw is there any other routine which checksums/rsaverifies the cr50 fw , or references the rsa keyz at all other than to print keyid .
asciilifeform: mod6: by all indications you have a box with iron problem. in your place i'd get a fresh set of iron, rather than sinking sweat into interpreting randomly flipped bits as 'bug'
asciilifeform takes break, lets the red hot barrels cool...
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829030 << hey mod6 is this the same box as in the last coupla similar threads, with the questionable hdd ? << yup, same item. will post more about it later for sure.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-23 02:18 asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/corod/?raw=true << the RO pubkey. (labels mine, offsets original). does not appear to be posted publicly anywhere.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 22:35 asciilifeform: if nobody finds obvious mistake, i guess i'ma have to pull an actual enemy signature out of the binariola, and see wtf
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-22#1828933 >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829007 >> https://github.com/coreboot/chrome-ec/blob/master/chip/g/signed_header.h >>>>> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/ro_signature.txt ( not the only 1, but illustrative )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for comparison : the last time i reset 'zoolag' was to change ps. and the time before that -- to swap in the 'aggression' build
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same here, lotta problems in 2012ish but meanwhile fuzzed out the weird, learned like ox, by trying.
asciilifeform: unless dying hdd, etc, all bets off then.
asciilifeform: fwiw asciilifeform has not suffered this problem in many yrs, for box on uninterruptible power ( and resist the temptation to fiddle! no it ain't 'stuck', it stands up again by itself in coupla hrs ) -- no bitrot
a111: Logged on 2018-06-23 04:45 mircea_popescu: just reinstate the old index, have it check the chain. odds are it'll be able to recover, because it doesn't so much care about data ~past~ its index point.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829041 << mircea_popescu has it , index is the only piece that actually bitrots ( bdb was written by the maliciously retarded )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829030 << hey mod6 is this the same box as in the last coupla similar threads, with the questionable hdd ?
mircea_popescu: in principle saying something like "no more than x connection from a given ip will be entertained" is perfectly reasonable ; though careful how low you set the x, some browsers (especially the mobile versions dedicated to fucking as much battery as possible) can turn a pageload into 10-20 simultaneous requests.
mircea_popescu: mod_whateverthefuck the common one also can do it for you. and also csf or w/e you use to manage the firewall.
lobbes: hm, yeah, looks like there is mod_limitipconn but the arm64 support looks dismal >> https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/www-apache/mod_limitipconn
mircea_popescu: i could say "trilema runs like that ~70% of the time", but then again trilema's got a larger box. pretty sure you can set it up though so it rejects multiple conns like that. there's a setting somewhere to limit inbound.