lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816438 << in other news, you were not kidding! my trb (hdd + aggression) has moved a mere 20K blocks in one month
lobbes: to my (admittedly, untrained) eye, it does seem like BingoBoingo is the ideal fit for the role; not only is he literally closest to the venture, but he also has sales experience iirc. Maybe what is needed is just a trusted "assistant manager", i.e. someone to handle the minutiae on a day-to-day basis under the direction of a chief strategist.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-13#1834333 << I'll state for the record that I consider myself largely unqualified for the role (plus my hopper overfloweth atm)
BingoBoingo: And I have discovered something to do with these beaches before the bikinis return: http://www.uruguaypesca.com.uy/2009/11/la-burriqueta-o-borriqueta-es-conoceda.html
BingoBoingo is standing by for the signal
asciilifeform: diana_coman: also then signal BingoBoingo to remove the kvm cables, the kvm box is in no real sense secure , having it plugged in for extended time is a small but definite liability
mod6: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : Give me a thumbs up if you believe the box is ready for you to do your testing, and I'll invoice mircea_popescu.
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2018/the-rivers-of-blood-article-or-the-lordship-list-fifth-year << for ref
diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, who exactly do you think would fit the bill anyway?
diana_coman: mod6, ok, but this doesn't strike me like a position that you can interview for exactly just like that, you print the ad in the newspaper and interview applicants or something
diana_coman: mod6, BingoBoingo aren't you though in the best position to work this out?
diana_coman: in practice one single person has only 2 hands, that's the thing
mod6: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : Ben and I have been pouring over the numbers (as i'm getting an education here), and the prorated cost for the rest of July for UY3 will be: 0.03542985 BTC
diana_coman: not that much; I can make such clothes just like I can still make bread by hand; but the time needed to make them....
diana_coman: eh, I have some *clothes* that are older than me and look better than new stuff, what can I say
diana_coman: the sad part being that really, it's not *just* tech stuff that used to work for ages, it's ~everything
asciilifeform: ( wasn't plugged in, but prolly worked, supposing the coolant is still in. 0 moving parts. )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, HA, a fram exactly like that was actually IN USE at the countryside 10 years ago; for all I know it might even still work if anybody plugs it in
BingoBoingo: They remain a rural crackpot thing in USistan as well along with R-22 to propane conversions
asciilifeform: err, adsorption, not adiabatic ( the latter's a different bag of crackpottery )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there used to be this thing, mostly in orcistans ( 1950s su, ro, elsewhere ) where starvation-cheap fridge, no compressor, but driven by heat ( typically ammonia as working fluid ) , could even run off kitchen gas
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Back in old country there weren't even quiet and cold on the sales floor
asciilifeform: eh they're all 'quiet and cold' when new.
BingoBoingo: The isobutane appears to be a vastly superior refrigerant compared to R134a
asciilifeform: how's the butane fridge treating ya, BingoBoingo ? do i need to include a flammable hydrocarbon sensor in next crate ?
asciilifeform: anecdote : some time in 2004 or so, asciilifeform described , to a frustrated-with-lan-warez gurl, how proper p2p net might work, 'picture if each user only connects to folx he knows personally, and queries can hop if there's transitive trust', ~gossipd, etc , reaction : [horrified] 'omfg, like terrorist cells?! how couldyou!'
asciilifeform: 'maybe haven't found the right magnets yet!'
asciilifeform: ( in either case, naturally there will be found folx who keep right on trying and trying.. )
asciilifeform: there is not a techno-pill against the requirement of wot, just as there is not a system of magnets and pulleys that gets you a working perpetuum mobile.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'private tracker' is really a step backwards, to the central-failure uni lan days. they live for a spell, then get killed/coopted/etc
mircea_popescu: and they're fucking terrible at user acquisition, too.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta where state-of-the-art got stuck, to present day.
BingoBoingo: There was a parallel meat/tech failure Junior year which ended it. Wifi routers were just starting to become a thing and people kept plugging the WAN cable into the wrong ports. This happened repeatedly in casacades of failure because "Internet doesn't work, port must be bad"
BingoBoingo: Well this thing failed because at somepoint everyone ended up with all the same music.
asciilifeform: they solved peer discovery, searching, etc. but not sybilism.
asciilifeform: the much later, public 'p2p sharing nets' succumbed to wotlessness ( i.e. seeded with infinite fakes and crapola )
BingoBoingo: At uni there was a little java program called "mytunes" which turned iTunes LAN shared music (a feature only used because of the pirate thing's popularity) into a sort of anon ftp
mircea_popescu: just saying, the "p2p protocol" as a broad construct seems pretty well fleshed out.
asciilifeform: right. but nowadays there's also bonsaikitten-students.
mircea_popescu: nowadays there's lateral peer discovery and things
asciilifeform: at uni we had a p2p lan warez thing, that somebody cobbled together. lulzily , however, ~searching~ relied on a central point of failure, at any given time 1 or 2 particular boxes, and they would live for 2-3 months until some rat ratted'em, then cycle repeated.
asciilifeform: nowadays they've 'progressed', happily pay not merely per minute but monthly ~lease~ on ipnoje, to talk across a street (via packets, via london, etc)
asciilifeform: funnily related story, back when asciilifeform was a uni student, cellpnojeism was beginning to spread among plebelands, and asciilifeform noticed that folx were paying telco fiddycents/minute to talk over 1-2km ! so asciilifeform went, like naive idjit, to engineering profs, with 'p2p telephony' proposal thing, reaction was the exact sort of through-the-teeth laughter of today's bernstein re phuctor .
mod6: I'm happy to announce that The Bitcoin Foundation's 2nd TRB node is fully sync'd and will be added to the list of Advertised Republican Nodeds.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-15 16:47 asciilifeform surveyed what remains of shortwave , it's mostly empty, and what remains is largely these derps, 'texas can you hear me' 'this is utah, we can hear you' etc etc
asciilifeform: afaik the 'fu, we'll make own internet, with hookers and blackjack, even if we gotta throw cables from window to window' thing had a brief life in usa, in '80s, then silently evaporated
mircea_popescu: they're exactly ready, if tomorrow i start hanging "activists" the population will just clap along. just like the last time around.
mircea_popescu: the zek herd has no fucking idea how to defend anything. kinda why they're not worth taking seriously.
asciilifeform: these are slowly getting the axe, 1 after another, most of the ( very solidly built, 2metre-thick walls etc ) exchange houses in usa, today largely empty
mircea_popescu: soviets had a helluva time tapping them, and all ye olde school "use phone booth" worked wunderbar.
mircea_popescu: i'm not specifically defending bbs or anything. just making the point, comparably useless/dysfunctional approaches, one lived much longer.
asciilifeform: ( '3g' and newer , mostly not available in inexpensive chinese modems, because they are made for civilized world, where different bands and protocol are in use )
asciilifeform: '2g' , notably, is being phased out in usa, in many places ( and on most of the carriers) nao impossible to make a connection at all with these
mod6: (and update the howto guide with that info)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mine - yes, iirc mod6's also, and diana_coman's << aha, mine have been good, when the hardware has been sane. so, if I can find the time still this month, I want to add that vpatch to the main vtree @ thebitcoin.foundation
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, most usa zeks couldn't bbs today even if wanted to, the faux voicetel-over-fiber thing they have won't carry modem
mircea_popescu: and in the same way, pretend email is still a thing in 2010, while given up on pretense bbs is still a thing in 1995.
mircea_popescu: i just mean, because they're being groped in the privacy of their own bedroom, rather than in the publicity of the subway, they tolerate it much better.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding a) nobody cares about church and b) getting drizzled on while shitting is the #1 distinction between nation of africa and nation of human.
mircea_popescu: they have serious privacy issues, in the specific sense that the hole in the church roof bothers them a heck of a lot more than the hole in their outhouse
mircea_popescu: the fact that people pretended "it still works" for longer is imo one of the best points of illustration of anglotards retardation.
asciilifeform: aha, but somehow managed to outlive the tard flood by almost decade.
mircea_popescu: in droves. and for other starters, they got tits, and i got pliers, and if they're annoying i twist nipples.
mircea_popescu: and all the menagerie in between.
asciilifeform: the 1 remaining use case is reaching out to heathens who can't be pinged through anything else, but i haven't had any result worth half a shit with that in aeons , so that leaves just about nuffin
mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh i can't find a use for email. if it's not a trilema-article-and-link nor a p.bvulpes-and-link then why isn't it in #trilema.
asciilifeform: gmail was a usg victory aol et al could only dream of, if you're stuck sending email today you're more or less stuck doing it from shitmail, or watch it silently vanish somewhere on the way.
asciilifeform: ( formerly i banned it from phuctor, but after the db optimizations i let it live, shows up occasionally & crawls the broken keys, it dun create any particular problem to date )
mircea_popescu: they're involved in about half the efforts to make the net a shittier, slower, stinkier, buggier place.
asciilifeform: lol! they also have shitnodes?!
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, the shit's so advanced in the soup, all bans help. even http://trilema.com/2018/how-to-remove-usgalphabet-usually-called-google-by-the-jews-pantsuit-from-your-web-experience/#comment-126128
asciilifeform: ( a surprising % of the moar outrageous prb & quasi-forkolade derps, are stingy, parked on aws )
asciilifeform: ( i vaguely suspect there exists even a 'herd immunity' of sorts, where aggressive trb helps other peers, of whatever config, stay in shape )
asciilifeform: the mempool crapola oughta be separate log ( even while we do not yet have mircea_popescu's mempooltron-blocktron cut )
asciilifeform: afaik it doesn't auto-timestamp tho, iirc ben_vulpes , trinque , and possibly others, use linux system log to 'cheat' and get timestamps from trb
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he actually baked a patch, about same time as my aggression item, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000282.html
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-13#1834133 << probably just get sane logging in there, then can have noob paste from the respective logfile.
asciilifeform: actually stike that, there were a few 10-15 min data points
diana_coman: the by-now-usual "it's stupider than you'd think"
asciilifeform: the longest block-processing delays i ever measured were 4-5 minutes, still well below the 10min magic mark
asciilifeform: at any rate, the block processing delay was a kind of red herring, turned out that 'wait for rain to fall' was in fact the culprit in all ( known to asciilifeform ) cases of 'trb node won't stay in sync'
asciilifeform: notably , the patch started life as a general-purpose profiling of a whole buncha things in trb, but i ended up cutting out all but block timing, given as that was where something like 99% of ~active~ (i.e. as opposed to waiting for rain to fall, this was pre- aggression) cycles are spent
asciilifeform: diana_coman: reporting block r/w times currently requires pressing with the little patch that takes the times. ( it is not part of 'flagship' trb )
asciilifeform: ( i.e. the old 'rotor'-on-conventional-linux process will finally be obsoleted )
asciilifeform: i expect that soon n00b will be able to revv up a trb box simply by making use of trinque's builder and then 'emerge trb' or the like.
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000256.html << for reference; the block timers.
asciilifeform: aite, this is not a desperately urgent q or anyffing of the kind
diana_coman: asciilifeform, no, I didn't; and yes, it has stayed as far as I can tell (i.e. I check it daily to see if it's in sync and it has been in sync for several months now); if you have somewhere a step-by-step thing with what would be interesting to publish, I can go through it and do it but otherwise tbh I'm so swamped with other stuff that it's waaaay at the bottom of any queue
asciilifeform: ( currently failing to dig up in the l0gz; going from memory )
asciilifeform: shinohai: prolly the best result re trb on rockchip would be with 'adult' samsung sata ssd via usb3-sata snake ( you can buy short one, that fits in box )
shinohai: the vendor original is shite ... literally
shinohai: but it is tucked in neat beside the pogoplug, still chugging along and rsyncing blocks
asciilifeform: shinohai: iirc it has a very modest max current, you need a small/slow drive, like the vendor's original
shinohai: my obstacle is that erl has trouble reading some usb drives, gotta get another sandisk
asciilifeform: shinohai: almost ? what was the obstacle ?
asciilifeform: shinohai: otherwise pretty busy, currently with ffa reignition
ave1: btw the most recent version will only build static executables! so no support for shared anything. Does the musl / gentoo overlay depend on shared libs? (Python usually builds statically and depends for installable modules on it, etc.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in abominably rubbishy toolchains, the practice of 'doing the checks the compiler oughta have but author was dropped as a baby and so it doesn't', roughly.
asciilifeform: gotta love usg.opensores. 'buy this thing, with which you can do ~0 but admire the might of the great inca!'
asciilifeform: in other lulz , https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/ccd << amstan et al publish their Official usg debug snake . ( holyfuq, wai so complicated, mine is 2 resistors lol )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'The pluggable linting utility for JavaScript and JSX' ?!
ben_vulpes: or, you know, whichever other ambulatory meat wad failed even basic imperial sekyoority protocol
ben_vulpes: https://eslint.org/blog/2018/07/postmortem-for-malicious-package-publishes << the entertaining part is how much work they put into disguising Kevin Partington's role as "the maintainer"
asciilifeform: dunno that the official spiel has any connection, however tenuous, to reality. you've witnessed the products of ameri-schooling. do said schools strike you as an item produced by folx who 'believe kidz valuable' ?
mircea_popescu: so modern democracy came up with "kids are SO VERY VALUABLE!!!" it's worth having some. and then took it to heart, hence all the "college debt" mess of financial misdirection, and all the "you can do anyuthing" mess of intellectual misdirection.
mircea_popescu: in the end the problem is this : "modern democracy" ran into the same problem all societies ever ran into : explaining to men why they should bother fathering. the traditional manner was, "you must have an heir, to keep on your traditions stepping on serf faces", and unacceptable.
asciilifeform: i dun dispute that they could believe. but the hypothesis dun strike me as a necessary one.
mircea_popescu: they're not what they are, in the sense of, history. they are what they could be. see ?
asciilifeform: let's suppose mircea_popescu has it , and 'they all believe' . how the hell do they show up to the 9-to-5 cube then.
mircea_popescu: everyone believes all coulds all the time. proof to the contrary is dismissed under some pretext or other.
mircea_popescu: having met my fair share of "could be singers" mothers of girls.
asciilifeform: there is awareness of 'not-coulds'.
asciilifeform: again , outside of the open-air mental asylum of liberast www etc , not so many folx actually believe that 'hey i COULD be gold medalist runner' or the like
asciilifeform: ( typical specimen on the street , victim of ameri-schooling, naturally does not know what is a serf, word says nothing to him. but if you explain it, he'll nod, 'yes that's me' )
mircea_popescu: this could business... it cuts quite a far swathe. 1518 dairy ~couldn't~ believe she could sit on duchess couch, take duke cock. COULD NOT. doesn't fit in there, like with ducks. in the immortal words of a certain mammie, "it ain't fittin', it just ain't fittin'".
asciilifeform: most of the folx in north a have already mentally relocated to 18th c ru, of sorts. i've not met so many folx dumb enuff to actually believe that they will, e.g., one day own (properly speaking) house, or own carcass for that matter
mircea_popescu: the proof is in the pudding : if one doesn't believe that could, one couldn't possibly find himself in north america. because... COULD NOT.
asciilifeform: i suspect it is, like 1980s su 'communism'(tm)(r), a state religion, ~nobody actually buys in, errybody makes the token genuflections.
asciilifeform: i dun think there are, outside of inpatient nut houses, many folx who actually buy the 'erryone can have errything' item
mircea_popescu: the whole "hundred trillions" in derivatives, and everything else, hang from this "could".
mircea_popescu: yes, but if there's structure there can't be equality. and if there can't be equality, it then follows that ~not everyone could be anything they wanted to~. that could is currently underpinning the whole world economy, as the jesus nut of it all.
asciilifeform: what would it even mean to ask the q, outside of structure.
mircea_popescu: pro tip : to pubescent eyes, sexual congress readily translates to "daddy beating up mommy", as a factual matter. and to similarily infantile minds, what i do to my slavegirls is you know, "abuse" or however they put it.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem, however, is that you absolutely need a structure of authority to "distinguish men from vermin". and the whole http://trilema.com/2015/why-representative-democracy-doesnt-work-and-doesnt-make-sense/ is all about hwo the autistic boys don't understand who daddy is.
asciilifeform: it's more or less exactly monsanto-style agriculture, and other blunt tools of 'modern civilizations'
asciilifeform: current situation is suboptimal for all sides -- focus on individual debts, rather than the actual and dire problem of distinguishing men from vermin, leads to where some men nailed at ~random, while vermin win reprieve after reprieve (typically by 'demoocracying' as a blok )
mircea_popescu: since we're doing classics, consider eugenie grandet, and all the piles balzac especially wrote about control transfer in belle epoque france.
mircea_popescu: yes, but... "There isn't, nor is there going to be a way, manner, instrument or device through which to protect the passive from the active. "
asciilifeform: and good chunk of 'demoocracy' and 'progress' consists of the inevitable debtors ganging up to nail creditors.
asciilifeform: the relationship b/w cannoneer and commander -- potentially functional. between debtor and creditor ? i suspect not
asciilifeform: in asciilifeform's eyes, the entire abstraction of creditor-debtor is misconceived.
asciilifeform: was speaking of what sinks the remaining floating rafts.
mircea_popescu: the notion that you can fleece the sheep according to how much wool you "need" (calculated through a complicated abstraction designed to hide the arbitrarity, of course).
mircea_popescu: nah, the thing that sunk the last remnant of "america" in the 2000s was the "adjustable interest".
asciilifeform: rather than 'maxed cc and spent on whiskey'
mircea_popescu: hence all the nonsense that has, and will, blow up in their faces. "debt tranching, allowing you to remove the debtor entirely from consideration !!! " "does this actually work ?" "our gauss copula indicates that it definitely will work for as long as it does!"
asciilifeform: seems to me that modern mechanistic focus on the debt, rather than the ~debtor~, is intrinsic Wrong Thing
mircea_popescu: french cut down mercenary crossbowmen for the fault of having not provided them with dry storage for the tension element ?
asciilifeform: it is rather analogous to venice-credit, the cannoneer is spending the resource of another, and is at the mercy of 'creditor', who can decide to hang'im as traitor -- or not -- if the attack fails
mircea_popescu: consider the matter properly : so girl has put capers! in pot of coffee. because can't tell the difference between cardamom or capers, or because too tired, or mischevious, or fucked in the head or you call it, whatever. here's now a nice old style pot (anyone besides me sill use these, btw ? the tronconic items ?) with over a liter of capercoffee made out of SEVEN heaped spoonfulls of the world's best coffee, irreproducible
asciilifeform: superficially it seems possible to cut apart 'i'ma build fleet of merchant ships and sail to venice' from konsoomer-credit . but i suspect there's a nonremovable 'exam taking' component.
mircea_popescu: and to bring it home, if anyone hanged every time something blew up unexpectedly i'd be sitting here in an otherwise empty #trilema-gallows bemoanign my sad fate.
mircea_popescu: just how much of an agent to make the principal in the principal-agent relationship is the problem. because obviously if the principal were an actual agent there'd be no agents.
mircea_popescu: let's set out the dilemma properly, for future readers. 1. if the creditor is not an agent, then why would he get anything ? i mean beyond the usg-istic / southparkian "aaaannd... it's gone" ? and 2. if the creditor is an agent, then why does the borrower carry all the responsibility ?
phf: asciilifeform: i believe it was a reference to earlier mention of three musketeers as a source of useful knowledge, rather than any particular plot element. at least i meant dumas as generally high adventure
mircea_popescu: phf this sounds great, and works fine for as long as you stick to pulp fiction (this ~particular~ narrowness of viewport is why dumas never counted as an important writer). try and step outside of the threemusketeering and see if it can still be meaningfully applied.
mircea_popescu: but the deep fundamental issue that greenspun ran into and bewails in http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/arsdigita-greenspun.html is exactly this : postmodernity is predicated on meaninglessness.
phf: asciilifeform: i think the alexander dumas notion of responsible credit is a reasonable thing, i.e. borrow from a handful of reasonably informed wealthy people from your town, deliver return on credit, otherwise "i'm ruined, going to hang myself, daughter to be weed to one of the creditors" etc.
mircea_popescu: on the other, the republic, attempting something rather in the vein of "the life among the meaningless is not worth living, so whether meaning-izing works or doesn't, it'll be done."
mircea_popescu: well, you'd have to evaluate things. that's the fundamental dispute here. on one hand, the pantsuit, "ourdemocracy", whatever, "progressivists" how oyu'd call them (they'd preferred to be called "modern man", with an implicit hint that the modern part is spurious and they've always been all there ever was etc), which holds a strict "nothing can be meaningful, like, ever" stance.
asciilifeform admits that it remains unclear to him whether a thing 'responsible credit' is even possible. perhaps the mohammedans have the right idea re credit.
asciilifeform: iirc there was a mircea_popescu essay re another orcistan, greece, where 'greece : i am a toilet, what did you expect when you put money into a toilet'
mircea_popescu: rather the problem is that you can't have "progress" and responsible credit. gotta pick one.
asciilifeform: there won't be demonstrative impalement of folx who lend to the uncreditworthy, because at this point the latter includes ~whole of anglostani empire
asciilifeform: there aint even uranium mines ( and would be of questionable ev considering how guards reportedly expect 100k+ in pay )
mircea_popescu: then and only then, and so on. the wonders of the police state rediscovered anew for each new crop of idiots.
asciilifeform: ( at least if usg is the creditor )
asciilifeform: ah this they still have
a111: Logged on 2014-12-08 19:04 asciilifeform: 'companies that go bankrupt are a danger to healthy competition. They are able to make their creditors and shareholders pay for their losses and bad management and then to start anew with assets that they essentially got for free, quite unlike the competition that has not gone bankrupt, who have to pay full price for their assets, but quite similar to how their customers have wanted their products, for too little money.'
mircea_popescu: they get the shareholder's house and "all the money" and move on to a new "cheif executive officer" set.
mircea_popescu: really, the civil code should be upgraded to include ~divorce~ for female companies.
mircea_popescu: you know, it's the height of unfairness that items like gawker have to be ~sold~.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/07/remains-of-gawker-media-back-on-the-sales-block/ << Qntra - Remains Of Gawker Media Back On The Sales Block
mircea_popescu: willie dynamite is a great 70s flick btw. 100% of all "romantic comedies" acting and actors packed in one dude there/
mircea_popescu: but obviously, she'll either end it or turn it into a queendom, what the fuck CAN she do.
mircea_popescu: "what the fuck is a queen to do with a kingdom" is not contemplated here.
mircea_popescu: it's entirely ~male~ fantasy. give the queen the kingdom, maybe that way the messengers will stop streaming towards your location ?
mircea_popescu: perhaps if "he gives her all the money" this could occur ?
mircea_popescu: the driver, in that later case, is transparently oedipian, "just make everything like it was before". (literally, he says this). and i suspect that's why this thing even exists -- one superlative realisation of the autistic boy's refusal of the world is re-entrance into the mother's cunt.
asciilifeform: the part that remains unclear, is for what exactly does a cow need money.
mircea_popescu: cated floor washer, and some others) says, at the peak ? "i want you to have all the money". what's rose say in http://trilema.com/2015/the-war-of-the-roses/ ? yep, that's right, "you should have all the money". originally started as a blacksploitation item (and here's our tie-in with "ubuntu, the african philosophy") -- what's willie dynamite say (to the fat, middle-aged "social worker", no less) ? "i want you to have all th
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this "give all the moneys" has been a particularly impacted bit of cuntfic for many years, btw. you know what the "dead master" (very much in the vein of http://trilema.com/2018/cu-cartile-pe-masa-un-fleac-l-au-ciuruit/ ) that they all crowd around in http://trilema.com/2014/the-private-lives-of-pippa-lee-or-what-happens-to-the-old-whore/ (monica belucci's suicidal character, and nobody-robin penn's utterly dedi
mircea_popescu: (amusingly enough, folks get all aggitated about "social security queens" etc, dun quite grasp that what's happening is quite exactly "son, $600 a head is the best i could manage to keep the cunt churning. you can do it cheaper, go right ahead, i didn't want to use barned wire.")
mircea_popescu: there's no need to even dress them. cows live in shit up to their udders on an antibiotic diet, that's where the overton window is, in this negotiation.
mircea_popescu: and for the rest... the http://trilema.com/2016/an-immodest-proposal/ beds, seriously.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is that the minority of women for whom their intellectual value exceeds their reproductive value, this collective bargaining is a miserable life
mircea_popescu: yes it's true that 100% of females being fertile, and indeed the species either reproduces or ends, it then follows that they could "organize" in the way of "labour organizing" and "demand" things.
mircea_popescu: i suppose not even such a bad tactial approach, for the stupid bulk of womanhood. hence why the whole http://trilema.com/2014/hey-stupid-women-we-need-to-talk-smart-women-dont-want-to-be-with-you-anymore/
mircea_popescu: ie, the female worldview : a) isn't she the goddess-ordained womb ? b) don't i need kids ? therefore c) i'd better give her all the moneys she says, what.
mircea_popescu: kinda reminds me of the http://trilema.com/2010/aventurile-zilei/#selection-49.0-49.1103 "expert"
mircea_popescu: amusingly, apparently it also goes by the "i don't like anything about you!!!" name.
mircea_popescu: but... yeah irc was also unemployed and otherwise dependopotamus item.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure when originally introduced the striking aspect of the woman was this orca-like quality ustardian females get, where the head seems fused to the neck and the mouth promises to open wide enough to take in a live veal.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's an entire field. The hamplanets trying to appear as human sized is just one flavor.
mircea_popescu: ie, she's going to try and get money ~before~ the flying in.
mircea_popescu: now, much in the vein of http://trilema.com/2013/a-deal-can-be-anything/ ; any interaction can be moved towards a long con. you simply take whatever the op says they want to happen, and use that as the misidrection point.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> a catfisher is a fat woman that tries to manipulate the camera angle and crop tools in post-edit to seem less fat. << That's a fatfisher one step more offensive than mere catfishing
mircea_popescu: this is what drives the length difference : unspecific can't last.
mircea_popescu: a long con misdirects the victim towards a specific point ; a short con misdirects the victim without a specific point.
mircea_popescu: your notions are poorly organized on the topic!
asciilifeform: y'know, the 'grifter', who befriends old pensioner crone and gets her to sign over her will etc
mircea_popescu: tell me, and underline the distinction from short con.
asciilifeform: sure. but i only know about the kind with money.
mircea_popescu: something to do with the habit of catfish to bury in mud.
asciilifeform: i guessed this much; but what's the 2nd step in their algo? say you fly'em in, then what.
mircea_popescu: a catfisher is a fat woman that tries to manipulate the camera angle and crop tools in post-edit to seem less fat.
mircea_popescu: as you might expect, chick's way fat, way older than she claims, and cutting pics in the way of the catfisher.
mircea_popescu: they adapted the falx for a siege weapon, but the original thing deployed against them / used by the dacians was a 2-3 m pole with a 30-60 cm blade cutting inside.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jp item not halberd variant. jp item ~falx~ variant, as in the dacian weapon. very practical according to romans, either, feared the future romanians like no one else.
mircea_popescu: the only actual field aplication where it was state of art was disposing of armored folk fallen off horse.
asciilifeform: dunno, the jp variant reportedly vehehery practical.
asciilifeform: and satisfying to look at, even, asciilifeform never passes up a chance to visit a museum along the way that displays'em.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform halberds you mean ? that's a particularly satisfying item to use. dunno if you ever held one, but it's a mainstay for purely meritous reasons. best weapon to stand guard with, for instance, it's satisfying in the way of warm tea.
mircea_popescu: apparently sanity is a ~behaviour~, dependent in actual expression upon the a) presence and b) understandment of proper, sanity-inducing tools.
asciilifeform: relatedly, asciilifeform not long ago went to a museum, which, among other items, had... spears, and halbergs (!) from u.s. civil war.
a111: Logged on 2013-11-04 16:22 asciilifeform: to which the general replied - 'it wouldn't dare.'
mircea_popescu: original zulu were more in the vein of "machine gun ?! http://btcbase.org/log/2013-11-04#368213
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, but these are the replacement zulu, hallucinated by autistic white boys to porn up the girl next door in their own imagination.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 19:35 phf: madam blavatski and her followers did a lot of damage for years to come. it was literally in her writing that original meaning doesn't matter, as long as the translation sounds cool (there's a rationalization for why that somehow supposed to make sense)
mircea_popescu: Ubuntu (Zulu pronunciation: [ùɓúntʼù]) is a Nguni Bantu term meaning "humanity". It is often translated as "I am because we are," and also "humanity towards others", but is often used in a more philosophical sense to mean "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".")
mircea_popescu: (anyone ever looked into the deep piles of pantsuiticy surrounding that btw ? not just "Ubuntu - The leading operating system for PCs, IoT devices ..." on precisely 0% market share, but rather "Ubuntu philosophy - Wikipedia
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 21:27 asciilifeform: but in that case it can be debated whether he is still using 'the same machine' as he bought, or a 'new', africanized one
a111: Logged on 2018-07-12 04:23 trinque: other than that, I'd be curious why the hell the kernel wasn't capable of pulling an adult root up itself. usually this is because the kernel was again, built for allcomers, or more specifically for linux users afraid of configuring a kernel (present company excluded, of course). this ends.
asciilifeform: trinque: i was thinking, lilo oughta be able to be cured , to know what the hell it booted from on a given boot, and mount root there
trinque: build here meaning run the script, not hand-roll
a111: Logged on 2018-07-12 13:36 asciilifeform: 1 of the things i'd like to do, supposing trinque hasn't yet already made it, is to replace the horrid gui-laden boot usb stick currently in pizarro bilge, with a cuntoo stick.
trinque: will need others, can't have too many
a111: Logged on 2018-07-12 13:32 asciilifeform: hats off to trinque , pretty great item. ( as i understand , we will still need a troo tmsr tarballs mirror, and coupla other things. but it's a good start, 100% musltronic gentoo. )
trinque: (there are probably fixes also needed to the binpkg system, such that i.e. timestamps of the build are not in there, ruining bit-identity)
trinque: back on the bin-packages, these become much more interesting with a reproducible-build gcc. I understand ave1's to be very close, if not there already
trinque: /cuntoo dir is what I continue to work on. vtronic portage will sit in there. when released, diana_coman can replace the whole /cuntoo dir with the final item
asciilifeform: diana_coman can delete if she needs the ~1GB .
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-12#1833743 << that dir is the infection vector, and builds packages so infection can be swift. packages can be deleted, and perhaps distfiles too if the user is going to keep them elsewhere (i.e. off box)
mod6: ^ that'd be cool, then can have both ways
a111: Logged on 2018-07-12 11:36 asciilifeform: trinque's original also does something i consider ugly, it allows lilo to refer to disks/partitions by 'uuid' rather than device path, imho this should not be done ( it resembles poettering's warcrime against nic device names, and makes hand-tuning needlessly difficult )