a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 20:29 mircea_popescu: so i look for busted caps, but strangely enough... there's no busted caps. AT ALL.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837260 << also relatedly, i've had busted caps where the damage was only visible through magnifying glass , tiny little hole , magic smoke released. ( luckily not the case for mircea_popescu's box , evidently, but does happen )
asciilifeform: remains puzzler then.
asciilifeform: mod6: but does the readme's sig verify on your box
asciilifeform: ^ if anyone gets eggog on verification of either sig in this file (readme's or patch's) plox to lemme know
asciilifeform: jurov's thing gets me a 'Signature verification on clearsigned text failed, discarding. Review the message in your sent mail folder for wordwrap or similar mutilations of clearsigned text' despite the fact that i used the www front end ( therealbitcoin.org/mailman/post/btc-dev ) and attached all 3 as attachment
diana_coman: logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-21.log.html#t18:54:49 -> for future reference: this required cflags set because it turned out that configure failed to look in the correct place for the .h file; gentoo's own gcc used "--with-system-zlib" and got away with it; ave1's gcc did not
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "god's own voltmeter", here, denotes the glossa aka tongue.
mod6: asciilifeform: hmm, alright, for now just wot paste it to me and I'll update the foundation website.
mircea_popescu: "maybe busted invisibly ?" when LO!! it's one of those idiotic amd boards that do not do diag, and if hardware config changed it locks. gotta short the RCTL pins to get it to look in its belly!
mircea_popescu: so i look for busted caps, but strangely enough... there's no busted caps. AT ALL.
mircea_popescu: moreover, god's own voltmeter revealed that the ~spare~ was as dead as a plain quarter ; whereas the item in the mobo originally was quite rhubarby.
mircea_popescu: so i figure, who knows, maybe the cmos battery died, right ? it can happen, i suppose. went for the spare, but... no improvement.
mircea_popescu: and yet... the led light was on... the fans spun... but the video dead as dead can be. it wouldn't initialize the numlock light, even!
mircea_popescu: would ~not even post!~. i dug up through the piles of forgotten disused shit until i found a speaker thingee. it had no beeps to make.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in sad news of hardware, i had to power down a motherboard that had been going for a long, LONG time. and then... it wouldn't come back up.
mod6: weird, i must have grabbed the wrong one from btcbase, was still binary
asciilifeform: currently i expect the great regrind of errything, is coming soon.
mod6: are you going to post your new ascii-armored sig to the ML?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, there aren't many deps really (and we would like to have even fewer, working on that); it's zlib, curl, libmysqlclient, cal3d and cs
mircea_popescu: in other probably good news, there's hope there's gonna be a gpr eulora server next week. inconceivably enough the whole thing can apparently be beaten into obedience.
asciilifeform: to this day i have not found how to send email ( from either squirrel or heathen emailtron ) that doesn't mutilate line endings.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also notice that jurov's thing was very strict for a long time, and you threw a hissy fit every time! nomoar of that, either!
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 16:23 asciilifeform: the 'postel's law' nonsense, of silently forgiving people who send liquishit at the dusty disused corners of the protocol, enabling there to even ~be~ such a thing as dusty corners in a protocol!, MUST die.
asciilifeform: ( all of the older vtrons, mine, mod6's , pass the .sig straight to gpg, which doesn't care whether uuencoded )
ben_vulpes: there is always "evil mode" if you don't want to spend a month programming your own chords up front trolololol
ben_vulpes: i don't even want to think about the code, compile, run loop outside of the emacs toiletron
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: observe, phf is the only one with a trooly , properly strict vtron, rejects non-uuencoded sigs.
ben_vulpes: lobbes: you have the thing running in a repl, right?
mircea_popescu: so no. if you sign it properly for the first time, it is signed properly for the first time.
asciilifeform: though to be fair i'ma have to regrind all of these when we switch to modernized v.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it re-sign, this creates ~more~ work for people, nao they have to verify that it is sig for same thing.
asciilifeform: jurov: would it be simple matter to patch turdatron to reject these ?
asciilifeform: iirc these can be fixed via mechanical conversion, without re-sign
lobbes: yeah, looking like I'm gonna need to bite the bullet and learn some emacs already
asciilifeform: ^ vehehehery tasty 'yellow cake', for the literate.
asciilifeform: ( and no there is no eng version published. anglos dun like to translate, they like to 'rediscover', lol )
a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 16:56 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in re: output of archaeology dig re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-05#1831796, and in particular http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-04#1732905 : turns out, the orig theoretical model was a 1989 su item, kostylev & astanin's 'основы сверхширокополосных радиолокационных измерений' . then in early 2000s anglo academitards picked it up, and in 2009 subj 'died' after usg dictate 'i
asciilifeform: oh almost forgot, for thread-completeness : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837154 << >> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/astanin_kostylev.djvu << for the serious aficionado.
lobbes: problem is I can't even figure out -where- the thing is failing. Just.. silently doesn't work. I got to figure out how logging works with sbcl REPL I guess
lobbes: ben_vulpes: Ah okay, thank you. Perhaps my postgres installation is borked w/ regards to threading then
ben_vulpes: lobbes: that the outbox table has entries in it suggests that logbot-start-pg-thread was never called
mircea_popescu: thanks for the bot! lol
BingoBoingo: Aite, the apartment now has a plant
mircea_popescu: the color of uranium delicious cake is yellow.
asciilifeform: so i gather.
asciilifeform: by folx willing to open their third eye!111
a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 17:02 asciilifeform: as for 'uwb', they were content to issue ban edicts, and then for good measure to bernsteinize all of the remaining 'experts' they could get to.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837161 << possibly in the folder of "secret nobus of the future". which yes is a thing
asciilifeform: they dun get 'emissions laws' Because Reasons (tm)
asciilifeform: ( by some accounts, good % of the 'smellable' pollution )
mircea_popescu: not these days no mo.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 16:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837129 << i suspect that butterfly is not quite perfect 'clean air gauge' : i've seen monarchs fluttering in the dourest cement jungles of usgistan.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837141 << they're very sensitive to some classes of pollutants. unlikely the sort to be encountered in wash dc, there's no skyscrapewrs there, there's ~no industrial processes going and so on.
asciilifeform: basic idea, however buried under mountain of paper rubbish, is deadly simple : instead of periodic wave, you send shaped bursts of 'static' that cover entire $band ( ideally, below noise floor ); on other side, receiver has a correspondingly-shaped filter. pulse position encoding + luby etc. for receive.
asciilifeform: as for 'uwb', they were content to issue ban edicts, and then for good measure to bernsteinize all of the remaining 'experts' they could get to.
asciilifeform: lulzily enuff, for own needs , usg ( they use the limba de lemn 'low probability of interception' ) prefers old-fashioned 'frequency hopping', which requires nanosecond time synchronization ( i.e. for the gps sats to work ).
asciilifeform: the funny, if obvious, bit, is that pulsing worx just fine over whatever band. just needs the correct pulse waveform.
asciilifeform: mprisoned' uwb to a uselessly short wavelength ( 2-4GHz, with a dip at 3 to 'avoid interfere with gps' ). the academitards naturally bent over backwards , killing whole forest printing paperola re 'optimal fcc-compliant gaussian pulse generation', some konsoomer crud was sold with 'uwb' to transmit vga over 3-4 metres in a room, and that was that.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-04 15:09 asciilifeform: oh upstack re radios, the 'why not use aperidic wave, and entire spectrum' thing was of course not long ago hannobockized and redhatized by usg shills, as 'uwb (ultrawideband)' and 'regulated' and other rubbish.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in re: output of archaeology dig re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-05#1831796, and in particular http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-04#1732905 : turns out, the orig theoretical model was a 1989 su item, kostylev & astanin's 'основы сверхширокополосных радиолокационных измерений' . then in early 2000s anglo academitards picked it up, and in 2009 subj 'died' after usg dictate 'i
mircea_popescu: (something very similar was the original impetuus for mp asking ben_vulpes for candi [where is she btw ?] only to then discover after a whole day of basic-training-with-admirals that in fact the memory footprint for what i had in mind was ~infinite)
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, fwih lisp is exactly ideal for this sort of tokenize-and-replace job. cuz ai and everything right ?
mircea_popescu: spykedbot well, the google translate approach is dubious at best, but at least ~it handles all inputs~. this is an important property.
asciilifeform: hanbot: the thing dun googletranslated, it's simply a grep into http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740761 .txt
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837129 << i suspect that butterfly is not quite perfect 'clean air gauge' : i've seen monarchs fluttering in the dourest cement jungles of usgistan.
diana_coman: give it a fork in the eye - might work
spyked should improve the matching algorithm though. should allow for partial matches and selecting from multiple matches somehow.
spyked: that makes sense. most of the sun blocked here is by a thick wall of trees outside the window.
spyked: the thing I dun get is: bucharest is (if we're to believe official stats) one of the most polluted towns in europe. so why no birds in geneva. they must do something to keep them away.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-21 14:52 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-21#1836936 << this might be the key re why mosquito hell in usa 'suburbia' -- the only public land there, is the asphalt. ( who wants spraying , has to specifically pay , and they come and spray out poison that kills errything that moves, frogs, cats, dogs, etc )
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-21#1836965 <-- also, bucharest has a stable population of sparrows and other small birds during spring and summer (this in addition to the usual pigeons). some swallows, blackbirds, I've even seen woodpeckers at times. this in stark contrast to "civilized world" towns, where 0 birds, I've no idea what keeps them away.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-21#1836952 <-- atm it only knows ro-en and en-ro expressions, but I'm putting this (and other $srclang-$dstlang) in the queue. I'm curious if I can find dictionaries and put them into the proper format.
lobbes: I'm seeing the NOTIFY messages in postgres when I insert into the outbox table, so I think the triggers are working. Log table is also getting inserts which confirms that irc/sbcl/postgres are interfacing. I'm trying to rule out any obvious things I might be missing
lobbes: trinque, ben_vulpes, I can't seem to get logbot to send messages from the 'outbox' table. Could either of you confirm that I'm entering data into the 'outbox.target' field in the right format? (e.g. does it need to be a 'raw' IRC message instead?) >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lRoDB/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: but yes, all of fetlife is public, idle posturing to the contrary notwithstanding.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ( asciilifeform never used fetlife.. ) why is it that the bois are able to read your slutograms ? ( are all posts public ? )
asciilifeform: ( for all i know, it could still be the best example available. but, still , nuts )
asciilifeform looks at 'ircd-ratbox' , somewhat astonished at the mass, coupla MB of src (moar than, e.g., trb)
mircea_popescu: i also don't know how i picked as example THE ONLY EXAMPLE
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how ; but out of the 200 or so otps one died en route.
trinque: he's seriously going to keep on with the "buggy" thing eh?
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated elaineo -10 at 2018/07/21 20:50:49 << http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/
mircea_popescu: yet another one of the very many disadvantages for the cattle outside the walls, is that our private lives are public matters for them, that they can't touch. whopsee.
asciilifeform: i dun necessarily disagree with above, but must point out possibly mislabeled reactor control, either l1-issued rating is a public event, and then really oughta be part of forum record; or otherwise it is strictly 'between us gurlz , and gotta ask erry time'; but right now n00b could not tell that it ain't meant to be entirely the former
mircea_popescu: same point as any other www. nothing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what then is point of deedbot www , if 'oughta ask every time'
mircea_popescu: and seriously, this "i shall use wot without talking to people" tack is self defeating. the ONLY item wot tells you is whom to ask. nothing more. absolutely nothing more.
mircea_popescu: if you care whether x knows y, ask x.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform meh, why add all the states.
trinque: no, because the thing considers $placeToRespond = $sourceOfCommand
asciilifeform: then again technically this'd go against mircea_popescu's 'speak when spoken to' dictum for bots, so oughta ask him 1st
asciilifeform: trinque: would it be difficult to make deedbot announce ratings in-chan when they happen ?
trinque: I'll still see about narrowing the loop when I find time
mircea_popescu: what the fuck
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated elaineo 2 at 2017/09/26 04:47:52 << somehow manages to write unirritatingly while also academia. i have yet no theory as to how this is possible.
BingoBoingo: And there may be a couple days requiring more than a day to digest
mircea_popescu: 2/day is still pretty good, you'll be caught up before you die. i expect it's actually the natural limit
esthlos: current plan is to push the reading hard I can manage next few weeks, and get a better sense of the sustainable rate
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com soldiers on , pretty good summaries imho.
asciilifeform: sorta what death is, neh; head, arse, 'go their own way', stomach happily digests self, gut bacteria open up 'independent biznis' while there's fat to eat.
asciilifeform: goes back to the fundamental thread, of why 'brain' packed off to miami, milan, etc.
mircea_popescu: for the exact same money, could have had brain.
mircea_popescu: same could be said of whatever tmsr reject. yet THEY DIDNT HAVE TO not have a brain
asciilifeform: post-'85 or so, there was no brain.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, 100% of requisites were on the table. just, blockhead "leadership" assembled pc into wooden block.
mircea_popescu: all graham's wank re "omg, what does it take to produce silicon valley" is entirely besides the point. what it takes to produce the town is the town-lie, and "take your pick of teenaged cunt, weekly auctions" is much better implementation of that than mission district's own "money for nothing".
mircea_popescu: and the above, ftr, is not idle "woulda coulda". i actually did send both people and materiel, and even followed briefly in early 2000s, research expedition.
asciilifeform: re the other kind ( 'It's a forced thing, which they don't enjoy and at which they're therefore not any good, predictably enough' ) reminds me of shalamov's anecdote where 2 gulag zeks hear a call for carpenters and say 'me, me, i'ma carpenter' despite never having held a saw 'because what, any idjit can cut wood' and promptly falling into lulz
mircea_popescu: the mistake, as usually when people make large scale mistakes, was in incorrectly handling cunt.
mircea_popescu: let's disambiguate whore : http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#footnote_7_74280
asciilifeform: afaik there was no shortage of whores etc. in '95 ( and even some mircea_popescus ) , didn't seem to help
mircea_popescu: if russia went as described, i'd have likely moved there when i was looking around in early 2000s
mircea_popescu: coupled with a general feeling of "cheap life" (ie, all the ukr whores going to moscow instead of milan), it'd have attracted, eg, me.
asciilifeform: why is 'we'll eat by brushing each other's hair' hilariously stupid when modern usa does it, but somehow could've worked in su ?
mircea_popescu: and in a decade of figuring shit out, they may have found something. that's ~their~ fucking job.
mircea_popescu: the reason soviet industry imploded was lack of demand. construction drives all sectors, the building itself would have bought them ~decade to figure shit out.
asciilifeform: su circa '90 was , sure, 'healthy but for one thing', like the organs of guillotined man.
asciilifeform: and i'll admit, it is unclear still to me where the inhabitants of '100mn sqm of hruscheba' were to be employed , fed with what. su industry imploded, the ex-su space is to this day a land of ruined factories with missing roofs , like the outskirts of timis.
mircea_popescu: this is altogether unclear.
asciilifeform: he's the fella with the biggest raft, even has identifiable pieces of the bridge and periscope still attached, is all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform made wrong raft the wrong way. mine fucking floats. theirs floated so fucking well, putin's cut their heads off.
mircea_popescu: this is EXACTLY like, instead of using programmable machines to talk to every girl on fetlife and enslave some, i'd use them to "start-up". because "san francisco never said it wants a bunch of enslaved women with computers".
asciilifeform: ~none of the managerial caste showed any symptom of desire to keep the boat floating, but plenty of enthusiasm re tearing off choice planks to make rafts.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck asked shittington any fucking thing jesus christ.
asciilifeform: pretty much whole of su brass 'strategy' from ~1985, was http://trilema.com/2018/the-principal-agent-problem-or-how-america-went-away/#selection-231.0-243.1 .
asciilifeform: to the extent there was a logic, i suspect it was a venezuelan logic, 'washington will pay for titanium and petro, but didn't say it wants 40mil aboriginals with these'
asciilifeform: su brass was in full nest-feathering miami mode, the d00d who sold the coal that was meant to keep primorye above 0c in winter being prime example
mircea_popescu: i'd say "they should have come to #trilema and asked", but i guess they get a break for pre-trilema age.
asciilifeform: the sharp still is still in, and prolly won't even emerge from mouth for another 100y.
mircea_popescu: fuck them with a sharp stick for being condolezza rice without even being niggers.
mircea_popescu: eh gimme a break. everyone fucking knew except for the "factors responsible"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh, that was rank nonsense. VERY fucking stupid choice. 1990 ru was a) perfectly equipped to produce 10-100mn smq of hruscheba living space per month. b) 1990s ru was EXACTLY in the position where the best use for its effort was to do just that. buy the losers 30 years in which to decide if they really wanted petrograd residence.
asciilifeform: naturally orlol omits to mention ~why~ ru immigration laws. ( there's a quite straightforward prime mover -- millions of su plankton formerly living in various newly-'independent' goatfuckistans packet suitcases in '90s and all tried to squeeze somehow into moscow and petrograd , quite impossible to fit )
asciilifeform: ^ he moved there, and still only counts as 'tourist'
BingoBoingo: The rhyming is a side effect of copypasta
mircea_popescu: their history is fucking copy-paste, what rhymes.
mircea_popescu: lmao. so great that the fucktard pantsuit fought apartheid. 10 years later, they can fight the first white massacre since haiti.
BingoBoingo: AHA, back in old country they did Malathion
asciilifeform: when 'shopping center' or 'condo block' monstrosities built in usa , they also seem to invariably feature what is by all appearances a purpose-built mosquito breeding pond.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-21 09:59 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-20#1836601 <-- afaik they make aggressive use of k-othrine (possibly others) in public places. /me has been hearing the bug-spray cars consistently pass by during warm seasons. I dun remember being stung by mosquitoes for more than a coupla times in the last few years.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-21#1836936 << this might be the key re why mosquito hell in usa 'suburbia' -- the only public land there, is the asphalt. ( who wants spraying , has to specifically pay , and they come and spray out poison that kills errything that moves, frogs, cats, dogs, etc )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform notrly. lotta people had btc for accident, in the 2010s.
mircea_popescu: except when subs don't work by themselves, of course. that's unfair comparison.
mircea_popescu: prolly 3x like brits, because gotta show they to real country.
asciilifeform: i think his bot is just a grep in the old ro idiom dict
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform conceivably hadn't the dough.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was thinking, about your argentines : remember the oddball who ordered FG and never picked up at the post ? i still can't fathom.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-05 12:49 spyked: I'm reserving another bot for the rss functionality. but I want to use spykedbot to make a small trilemabot example for implementing prefixed commands. spoiler: I have some code that looks up definitions in asciilifeform's ro-en dictionary ( http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2211 ), it's the smallest application that I could find that also does something useful.
spykedbot: a acoperi cheltuielile, a face fata cheltuielilor: to meet the expenses
spykedbot: muddle things together/ up, to: a amesteca/ incurca lucrurile
spyked: also ftr, there are places throughout town which are abundant in vegetation (e.g. the vacaresti delta) which I expect are populated with the variety huge of mosquitoes.
spyked: ftr, this does nothing for flies. still fulla them.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-20 13:12 asciilifeform: spyked: very interesting -- did they bring back the use of ddt ??
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-20#1836601 <-- afaik they make aggressive use of k-othrine (possibly others) in public places. /me has been hearing the bug-spray cars consistently pass by during warm seasons. I dun remember being stung by mosquitoes for more than a coupla times in the last few years.
mircea_popescu: hey, i liked it fine the first week.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 00:25 asciilifeform: ( i will say, 0 of the things that drove mircea_popescu barking mad about the place, bother me at all. then again i was there for a week.. )
mircea_popescu: she's writing for the atlantic.
mircea_popescu: did that fucktared 5 columnist in the hat sink or is he still derping about ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in 2014 rereads, http://trilema.com/2014/the-great-post-of-rebuttals/
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo sadly there's no such film.
asciilifeform: reminds me of that 1930s(?) d00d, named french, in the electric chair, last words 'tell the press -- french fries! haha'
a111: Logged on 2018-07-20 20:44 trinque: only thing suing can do is bankrupt the other side. sort of a breath-holding contest
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-20#1836900 << i dun think i've yet met a usaschwitz inmate who sees it in any other light
mircea_popescu: was that ever anything besides "not ideal", or just... you know... god forbid some feelings get hurt, let's look some other way etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-20#1836863 << how useful is useful ? because http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516905 for instance goes quite well with the unflattering self-portrait he's been working on ever since april.
mircea_popescu: but yes, getting movement through courts is a WHOLE lot more skilled work than getting a whatever the fuck nothing he didn't do, i don't even remember, social media something or the other.
trinque: the fucker only got bigger; yeah, I might throw that up redacted sometime
mircea_popescu: trinque you should probably publish those http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-21#1647094 ; because to the https://archive.is/FBFvR#selection-3637.1-3759.26 / redditard mind this is somehow the grand equalizer, "they're gonna sue". cuz that's something they can totallies do and everything.
mircea_popescu: in any case, any fix to the "why is republic so weak commercially ??" question will contain ample doses of beating the "i did enough work -- as compared to line average" approach out of the hopefuls.
mircea_popescu: which is how we've ended up with the ridiculous situation we find ourselves in, a sort of "left arm three times thicker than right -- jacks off with left"
a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 18:05 mircea_popescu: yes, teh republic is un poco carente in the commercial lines ; nevertheless the epsilon here far exceeds the zero there.
mircea_popescu: anyway, part of the problem is that on one hand http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-19#1836436 and on the other hand the sort of people who even go to business school so to speak, choose that through a very "less work than tech" heuristic. which means they find it EXCEEDINGLY difficult to not play-to-the-thrown-curve, so to speak.
mircea_popescu: well, either that or he's gonna sue.
asciilifeform: d00d gotta figure out what he wants, and quickly, or will surely end up on wrong end of the 'кто не с нами тот против нас'(tm)(r) stick
trinque: eh I extended the same kind of thing in that thread I linked
mod6: Well, as he said, I don't think he's interested in contributing to TMSR~ any longer. Even if he wants to follow trb, for instance, can do so from the BTC-DEV list.
mircea_popescu: right, because unfucking a fucked head's literally the last priority.
shinohai: Speaking of the beach, I'm off. No time to rehash trivial shit.
a111: 2015-03-17 <shinohai> ty danielpbarron. how goes it in the land of #bitcoin-assets
asciilifeform: afaik shinohai dun have dayjob, so only thing competing for his attention is the beach. so potentially could do serious work.
mircea_popescu: don't you find, in some sort of inner fold, that the situation where you're the baron titsbare and this other dood's getting the tits bare requires some sort of introspection ? at all ? nada ?
mircea_popescu: i for one'd have been infinitely more impressed with ~some sort!!!~ of mark of reflection in the vein of "holy shit, i've been doing it for months, produced ~0.0% of what this douchebag character the wind just blew in one day produced". because that's that's ever impressive, clear signs that the intelect's alive, not dead in the box.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-07-19 08:03 shinohai: Also, implying I care to contribute to the "Republic" anymore.
mircea_popescu: shinohai your presence is not ~impressive~, which seems to be the principal problem you're having. no, it's not, and this has nothing to do with anyone else but you.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside practical points such as "there's not yet been a case in suedocket that took less than the longest the forum ever took to resolve a matter, and by a factor at that", not to mention this is yet the only court that doesn't charge filing fees, and other minutia.
shinohai: Well I stopped in here as it is the preferred forum for trb matters, but if my presence is not welcome - well then!
mircea_popescu: so then if that's your preferred mechanism, the obvious question would be, what are you doing here ?
mircea_popescu: something is broken in this reasoning ; or rather should i say something broken keeps right on producing paralogisms come hell or, apparently, high water. now, what exactly is it ?
mircea_popescu: n-is-going-to-catch-a-lot-of-shit-for-that-on-assorted-othe/ ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-20 19:56 mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-02 22:57 shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-02#1820300 <<< Even if this were resolved, I have pretty much decided Pizarro wouldn't meet my current needs or risk profile, if at anytime after posession of my BTC and equipment one of the lords might LARP about and negrate me.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-20#1836840 << and you perceive this is different from ~literally~ every single other isp out there without exception how, exactly ? other than, of course, that here ~you actually know~ the lords, and can talk to them without having to be me and http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-i-ended-up-suing-phoenix-nap-llc-on-how-ira-r-cadwells-mom-stephanies-going-to-lose-her-chula-vista-home-on-how-marcus-boh
asciilifeform: shinohai: didja see the deedbot www thing, where you have null strings for all yer outgoing ratings ? was this deliberate setting, or is trinque's mechanism buggy ?
shinohai: Also, kudos on the m/l update
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-02 22:57 shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-02#1820300 <<< Even if this were resolved, I have pretty much decided Pizarro wouldn't meet my current needs or risk profile, if at anytime after posession of my BTC and equipment one of the lords might LARP about and negrate me.
mod6: Almost for sure the former.
asciilifeform: mod6: then which ?
mod6: Hm, I wasn't taking about the manifest thing really, which is another whole question not completely answered.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic: The Bitcoin Foundation's vtree has been updated with asciilifeform's Aggressive PushGetBlocks vpatch. The TRB-HowTo Guide has been updated as well.
mod6: jurov: Hi, can you take a look and see if there is an email from me stuck in the btc-dev queue? I did check the signature was valid before I sent, but nothing has been posted yet.
mircea_popescu: but at least the "investor" "herpderpwearebtc" crowd is now on assbook.
mircea_popescu: "the problem that has arisen" huh.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, in my head summary goes like "rambunctious 16yo attempted to http://trilema.com/2013/whore-strat/ ; ended up with inept pimp ; found "jesus" in the shape of http://trilema.com/2018/hey-women-did-you-know-that-before-the-pantsuited-hilarity-gave-you-your-civil-rights-you-were-living-in-slavery/ neo-neoprotestant xtianity ofshot". so now she finds herself in this situation where fire is bad because it burned her aun
asciilifeform: reminds me of a daily life lulz ; not long ago asciilifeform repaired a washing machine, early '90s item , one of the last made in usa . and it had clamps on internal hoses that could not be reached with any conceivable tool, repairer was evidently expected to supply 20-30kg of squeeze with... hand.
mircea_popescu: pretty much no one part goes with any other part, it's like in that joke with the policemen intelligence test.
mircea_popescu: and then she wants to pick a beef with ~me~ of all fucking people.
a111: Logged on 2015-01-25 20:41 decimation: "Concretely, this has meant giving massive publicity and a momentous political significance to the 17 people killed in the Charlie Hebdo and related attacks. This contrasts sharply with the treatment given to any number of other recent tragedies: the 1,400 girls raped by largely Pakistani gangs in Rotherham, England, the tens of thousands of victims of Islamist terrorism in Syria, and the over 4,000 people killed in the Donbass
a111: Logged on 2018-07-20 15:04 a111: Logged on 2014-11-15 00:28 asciilifeform: one would read instructions. another, turn a wrench, whatever. third would check that 2 corresponds to 1. then, all three sign under that step in recipe.
trinque: last timestamps on the files are from earlier today.
mircea_popescu: trinque listen, the usefulness of that thing is significantly hampered by mounting inaccuracy like this. can it be made to be <daily ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 16:12 mircea_popescu: !!rate elaineo -10 http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the wot graph etc is ~daily.
asciilifeform: hey trinque , which table of these is actually realtime ?
mircea_popescu: http://wot.deedbot.org/260fa57bce677a5c04bf60ba4a75883cc1b1d34c.html << there it is.
asciilifeform: mod6: look in the actual wot -- dun seem like there's a current rating from lobbes at all
mod6: Mocky: Like he said, I think he's got another arrangement paid up. But there is the other question of the -2 from lobbes. And there was a rule we put in place a while ago, whereby if a TMSR Lord had neg-rated you, you couldn't become a customer.
asciilifeform: lol i dun see any minus either
mircea_popescu: mod6 no - there, am i blind ?
deedbot: asciilifeform rated shinohai 3 at 2018/01/24 23:16:20 << heathendom newsdesk; pogotronics, trb, FG experimenter
mircea_popescu: one could say "but mp, you've not explained the manner in which antibiotics and xtianity interract", which seems like an argument until you stop to realise the mechanism of action of fucking paracetamol is not yet understood either.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman for the record, i count this in confirmation. if we look at plots-over-time, the introduction of antibiotics limited severely but not completely eliminated both afflictions.
mircea_popescu: lol. but this aside, it is true that the alternate hypothesis is simply "complexity drives the shattering by itself".
mircea_popescu: pretty much in any one definite aspect you pick, christianity is more likely to resemble syphilis than any other thing.
mircea_popescu: transmitted chiefly through sex, right ? seemingly "healthy" right ? lengthy history of "cures", brought upon us by the french for the orient... take your pick.
mircea_popescu can't look at the monstrous gummatous heads on display at teh musée de l'homme and not thing "look! christians!"
mircea_popescu: hard to miss the similarity between one treponema pallidum and another. yes that's the corckscrew it used to destroy tissue.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, sin is a term for "arbitrarily defined wrongs that aren't".
diana_coman: funnily enough I was thinking precisely of that mapping: the "it's wrong but I did it" ~= "sin"
mircea_popescu: anyway, i fully blame christianity for this particular disaster. the introduction of "sin", ie, "things that are right and you do but arbitrarily called wrong" is what created the crease in the human psyche, ripe then for the reversion of modernity, bureaucracy's own "i know it's wrong, and yet i do it".
mircea_popescu: well ok, if you prefer, "the modernity contribution to humanity is to produce shattered knowers" ?
diana_coman: hence my "lying to themselves"