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asciilifeform: ( currently seems to stick to preying on the bottom half of the bell curve, mostly, but i suspect this won't last )
asciilifeform: trinque: makes sense. tho thread wasn't about the inevitable mass implosion, but the erryday 'losing the lottery' where usg decides yer a good candidate for cokemachine
a111: Logged on 2018-08-23 17:59 asciilifeform: i can't speak for what particularly they're manacled to, only for self, tho.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-23#1843898 << not manacled, texas doesn't bother me, and I've not concluded yet how far away currency implosion is for the great soviet
trinque: will otherwise reply on teh blag
trinque: I'll try to find time to reproduce soon. you are correct that the var in script needs to point to the version of portage in distfiles.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-23#1843771 << ah, hadn't checked the queue in some time. approved (afaik this means your next comment won't require approval)
asciilifeform: so if we say F(q1,q2) = 1 if miscible, 0 if not, then e.g. F(2,3)=0, F(2,5)=1, F(3,5)=1, F(4,5)=0, F(4,7)=1 ...
mod6: Unless you want to also do us the favor of taking the additional 100mn ECU, and just !!pay'ing 1.2 BTC back to Pizarro. Totally up to you. We appreciate very much your efforts on this. I think we'll find a way eventually.
mod6: mircea_popescu: Alright, sorry to keep you waiting here. I'd say Pizarro is fine to hang on to ECU if we can try again in the next say, 60 days. This would eliminate the step of having to buy ECU (which clearly isn't a problem anyway). Otherwise, you can just !!pay. Amount was 1.1bn ECU. I originally bought 1.2bn from dpb, and I was going to hold the remaining 100mn until the end of the year, unless we
diana_away: re picking stuff, I did ask for some chicken for the child at one restaurant and what he got clearly went moo in its life but since he did not complain anyway...
diana_away: although the red ones which are the only proper squirrels look less like rats
diana_away: there were some monkeys going on the wires with the tails curled on a higher wire so it was basically trolleybus monkeys
diana_away: ah, I'd always thought they looked more like fat rats
BingoBoingo: The kid may be disappointed by the lack of monkeys in Uruguay
BingoBoingo: It turns out the get the "pig" in their name because they do look like little pigs when you get the hair off of them.
BingoBoingo: I did learn this week that the word for guinea pig in Spanish is "Cuy" so I can have fun with that asking vendors at the feria to help me pick a good one for dinner
diana_away: kid loves the monkeys but he found some very friendly "amigos" ticos rather too much
diana_away: oh and the great sign on the beach: "sandwishes allowed@
diana_away: they had at some point this big sign reading "more monkeys than people" so perhaps they know something about it
BingoBoingo: And the motocicletas use the sidewalks for delicate maneuvers
BingoBoingo: diana_away: More commonly IN the motorway
diana_away: BingoBoingo: are people in uruguay walking on the side of the motorway too?
BingoBoingo: Or the "Manteca de mani: Creamy" which looking closer at the label came to Uruguay from Germany via Venezuala
diana_away: on the bright side I can say that I got along with my adapted italian so far
BingoBoingo: In the supermarket we also get mixed English/Spanish food labeling. Like the envelope of "Arroz Primavera" which is subtitled "Rice Primavera"
diana_away: I found funny here this thing with american-pretending-to-be-italian food esp salami in the supermarket
BingoBoingo: This is not a very seafood oriented culture despite proximity to the sea
BingoBoingo: Most pastas here are underwhelming, but when you add shrimp they charge too much of a premium for the disappointment.
BingoBoingo: If you come to Uruguay, avoid the shrimp pastas. Very underwhelming as a rule.
diana_away: I guess I should give that one another try here too
BingoBoingo: All the expats from baseball latino lands (Colombia/Vzla) seem to love Maracuyá (passion fruit), but I find the flavor rather astringent and bitter.
diana_away: I even had a "shrimp spaguetti" with white whine and what-not - it was delicious; oh, and the fig cake - this should be on asciilifeform's list I'd say
diana_away: hm, here they have this "tres leches" cake that kid is in love with
BingoBoingo: diana_away: Latino johnny cakes. A flat cornbread just thick enough to split and stuff with other Latino foods.
BingoBoingo wondering if Costa Rica does Arepas or if those never made it across the Darien Gap
diana_away: hey, thanks asciilifeform ! back from the Pacific here, still no ocelot
mod6: mircea_popescu: ah ok, thanks for the update. I'll get back to ya here in a bit on what's best for unwind.
mircea_popescu: fucking useless "banks", i swear to god by now it's the exact equivalent of "technology" from bed sitting room, guy-pedals-electricity.
Mocky: asciilifeform, sure but demonstrating overtight constraint in extant algo dun do either. nor does proposing A* without heuristic
mircea_popescu: mod6 i'm sorry, but ima have to refund you. whole exercise turned into a massive pile of idiocy. im closing an entire bank out of the loop over their idiotic misbehaviour ; we'll have to try this again later on.
mircea_popescu: yeah, what diana specified there was basically the already extant private item.
asciilifeform: Mocky: rright, but iirc mircea_popescu posed 'prove this algo is optimal, or if not, show the optimal' puzzler
Mocky: asciilifeform, at the time, wasn't trying to confirm correctness of problem statement, was trying to deliver useful feature as described
asciilifeform: any move that satisfies the eqn K(Na+Nb) == NaQa + NbQb , where K is integer, is valid
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-06-10 18:59:23: <diana_coman> so you want to ever mix only same quantity of items and of qualities either both odd or both even so you don't lose anything
asciilifeform: ( possibly mircea_popescu already pointed this out , but it follows from the eqn )
asciilifeform: Mocky: i still dun get why your algo requires the xor of the ~quality~'s oddness bits to be 0
Mocky: for example this pile of 4 requires 2 moves: 1x1q 100x1000q 100x1001q 1x2001q, while if you do it without the last pile: the remaining 3 require 20 steps
asciilifeform: Mocky: admissible heuristic is not difficult, simply must not ~over~ estimate the cost. can simply take 'number of remaining piles , squared' or the like
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:39 mircea_popescu: i have eight sets of "sb" (solid branch) : 503 q 222 ; 1466 q 3 ; 973 q 207 ; 983 q 252 ; 1651 q 258 ; 2963 q 189 ; 563 q 22 and 336 q 225. the first number is the count, the second the quality (depends on your mining, whatever) ; you can mix these, the game will floor the average quality. this means you can lose matter through mixing, so you want to mix stacks so as to obtain the highest possible quality final.
asciilifeform: there's 9000+ nobus, and the ceremonial 'fix' for 3 or 4 makes no diff
asciilifeform: the notion that 'intel with fixes' will have process isolation, is hilarious
asciilifeform: i suppose i oughta have included phf in the list of 'i have nfi what ~they~'re still doing in natoreich'
asciilifeform: there was a short transition where 'ok we'll give you professorship, but not tenured' but it was short.
phf: 1st of emigres to go straight into natostan * were serious world-class talent, others worked cashier jobs
asciilifeform: i can't speak for what particularly they're manacled to, only for self, tho.
asciilifeform: fwiw asciilifeform is not the only 'tard' tuned in, last i knew mod6 , trinque , ben_vulpes , lobbes , also still behind the wire.
asciilifeform: i'll add, usg learned from ye olde ussr -- the latter was equally efficient at preventing plebes from accumulating escape-powering capital, but less so at preventing 'marketability' outside the barbed wire. hence the 1st wave of emigres who went into waiting arms of natostan industry, academia. but current-day usa, they patched this hole, nao you gotta have some pretty serious world-class talent ( e.g. concert pianist ), or at the ve
asciilifeform: [insert the mandatory m: 'what the fuck are you still doing there, are you a tard' a: 'i dun have useful skills for outside the fence' thread here ! ]
mircea_popescu: someone's gotta pay for all the women sitting around dreaming shit up.
asciilifeform: at any rate, if mircea_popescu tells that there's a boiler room scamop where the hr chix is also the accountant and the council etc -- i'ma believe him, at this point i'm ready to believe plenty.
asciilifeform: last i knew , they were paper-liable for 'coarse errors of pilotage' strictly (e.g. 'wrong form wrong time' )
mircea_popescu: or what, ernst & young ? "oh, they did it" ?
asciilifeform: and cpa is a contractor, and theoretically liable for 'oops, wrong form'
asciilifeform: errywhere i've seen with own eyes, these were separate desks
mircea_popescu: there's 0 slack on one hand ; and the whole thing is powered on "mistake".
asciilifeform: that'd be in the cpa, not hr
mircea_popescu: most of these people ~are poor~. single clerical error in hr can destructure a firm through the simple procedure of "director" is now "inmate" as can not afford to pay tax bills ?
mircea_popescu: do you realise that ~the whole item is powered out of"clerical error" ? "you put wrong x on wrong color form, now you owe six figures" ?
mircea_popescu: no, seriously. this is the live-on-boat thing all over again.
BingoBoingo: I can't imagine there is a surplus of HR chix capable of working alone or in sufficiently small groups to avoid creating a culture of drama.
asciilifeform: small firms get to outsource the ritual to corps of professional priests, they mail in the mandatory oaths, slide decks, etc .
BingoBoingo: Well, that's probably why the condensed their HR department to this single HR operator.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: typically that's at large galleys where there's 4 or 5 of'em
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Catch is if they hire the wrong secretary, they are the next firm to implode
asciilifeform: they move, like electron hole in semiconductor.
asciilifeform: erry slave galley i've ever toiled on, solved this problem by... hiring secretary from the actively-imploding firm next door
mircea_popescu: outsiders can't readily appreciate the sheer POVERTY of all these chosen sons.
asciilifeform: so they sit for a day without a secretary until hire new one
mircea_popescu: the ineluctable fate of dead empire, stuck pretending, is that everything's a succession of single points of failure.
mircea_popescu: the very same.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, picture also the morons making all the "smart" airport humiliation technology, golf club in one hand, martini in another, trying to figure out how their entire hr dept imploded over the weekend and what to do about it./
asciilifeform: ( auto still elementarily includes odometer an' fuel gauge, can't exactly hide the figure )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik the car people still required to publish 'mpg' in usa. the konsoomer simply told to suck it.
asciilifeform: i can picture the intel execs, golf club in one hand and martini in other, 'why didn't we think of this before' 'hey next time let's not just prohibit benchmark, but only if answer isn't what we like' 'brilliant, this will be at next board agenda'
asciilifeform: apparently the vw people weren't quite 'smart' enuff to try an' prohibit mileage benchmark
asciilifeform: the diesel thing ? aha
mircea_popescu: heh, remember when "car manufacturers", got dekulakized by the pantsuit, resulting in some shit packaged in ye olde "mercedes" "wv" etc boxes, which then didn't work worth a shit ?
phf: ave1: ah thank you, i forgot that i kept the two separate. the folder is not exposed, but i'll merge the two together. there's also an even older (spotty) log from apr 2012 to oct 2013, that includes pre #b-a #bitcoin-otc content, that's available through btcbase, but exists only in xchat (?) log format, that i parse
mircea_popescu: support for they naive is not worth having. know what talking to a computer means as part of your existing in the world, which is to say, outsider of the harem where some slave spawned you.
mircea_popescu: you are talking to a computer ; if you open a tag you close it ; nobody gives a shit what you ~thought~ the alphabet meant.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in principle this type of inbandism is curable, with simple pill, lookahead parser -- if not ~actual~ html, comment is processed as plain text. rather than the 'oops here's a < so i'ma drift off into stratosphere' existing nonsense
mircea_popescu: imo this is a fine example to teach the failure of "no inband!!!"
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 5 hours and 50 minutes ago: <ave1> found the raw logs here http://btcbase.org/log-raw/, this go back to 2016. Do you also have the raw logs before #trilema? and could I download these somewhere (I tried to search the log but, so far seems to be looking for a pin in a haystack)
mircea_popescu: anyway, repost your whole thing and ima delete the abortive attempt
asciilifeform: ( https://archive.is/OPdaD << the old piece of that title, for anyone who cares )
mircea_popescu: there's no fucking reason "directly available". not all sets gotta be the same kinds of sets.
asciilifeform: 'the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics'(tm)
mircea_popescu: none of the usual bullshit, "why something rather than nothing" "what is god" bla bla bla.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentallty, being the only metaphysics question worth asking
mircea_popescu: as the perdurant reader no doubt noticed, i'm a great restationist.
mircea_popescu: "how the fuck is it that i can restate alf's fg problems in terms of a mmorpg ?" and so on.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 14:25 mircea_popescu: there's an imbecile's view of "intelligent design" being floated about (mostly by people who are looking for a strawman, and reconstructed by them for this purpose). here's the correct version :
mircea_popescu: if you recall ye olde http://trilema.com/2014/the-miracles-that-matter/ (especially in the light of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759562 style arguments), it should be obvious this is a sort of private mp worship
asciilifeform: the odds/evens aspect gives it a 'nim' flavour , so there might be a seekrit optimization..
lobbesbot: ave1: The operation succeeded.
ave1: !Q later tell phf, I found the raw logs here http://btcbase.org/log-raw/, this go back to 2016. Do you also have the raw logs before #trilema? and could I download these somewhere (I tried to search the log but, so far seems to be looking for a pin in a haystack)
lobbesbot: ave1: The operation succeeded.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-leak/ << Trilema - The leak...
asciilifeform: in similar lulz, 'libXcursor could write one byte out of bounds when processing Xcursor theme files. In certain cases, such as when used in the Firefox web browser, this could be used as part of an exploit chain to allow further attacks on an X client process...'
lobbes: psa: looks like my box that houses the archive-o-matic went offline on Friday. It back up and eating through backlog; www should update sometime in the next ~ 2 hours >> http://lobbesblog.com/queryarchive/view_domains.php
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mountains of rubbish, there , also, the guards aint paid to pick it up << There are crews going around painting bouys assigned to land duty, I suspect preparations for summer are beginning
asciilifeform: they took and burned his tent and pickets, and arrested the imitators who tried to make new one
asciilifeform: speaking of which, there was a 'designated' hobo who for 30 yrs sat on the pavement there, unmolested, with picket signs 'end nuke reich' or to that effect
mircea_popescu: reminds me of the shitting-down-nuke-tube thing
asciilifeform: mountains of rubbish, there , also, the guards aint paid to pick it up
asciilifeform: that street has very unpleasant atmosphere, i avoid it on the rare occasions when going into town
mircea_popescu: always the same one ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: street around whitehouse is hilarious themepark of lulz, 3 polizei and 1 german shepherd for erry tourist
mircea_popescu: worked so well for the ming, too...
asciilifeform: and they immediately built 'forbidden city', ming china style, around white house etc.
BingoBoingo: Well, fuel oil and the right fertilizer, and if you search Mcveigh in wikipedo it goes to a disambiguation page listing 2 seperate timothy mcveighs born in the 1960s
asciilifeform: d00d was to set off a theatric 'bomb', per the script, but showed up with working one
BingoBoingo: Back when people talked about the other pants clinton
BingoBoingo: Can't forget the organized retailiation strike in Oklahoma City to avenge Waco and Ruby Ridge
asciilifeform: recall, the ones where usg confiscated their life insurance post-facto
mircea_popescu: the official record isn't comprehensive for obvious reasons.
asciilifeform: (afaik the only such case on Official record)
asciilifeform: ( on rare occasions, the dylan finds a klebold, and they go bang as a duet, but this is uncommon )
asciilifeform: tho the mechanics of the biology, i suspect, work against it, when d00d 'goes t-cell' he closes in, in rightful mistrust of stoolies and 'helping hands'
asciilifeform: i expect at some point their !!key will work
BingoBoingo: Boeing like schoolbus lacks a natural use. Might as well repurpose either as cabin in alaskan woods.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma go with the trad 'liberate' !11
asciilifeform: somehow when yellen toggles the printer and steals 9000 boeings , 'not stealing', somehow.
asciilifeform: it isn't as if the 'legit owner' is somehow not cow.
mircea_popescu: very mirvniki worldview, "land belongs to the cow"
mircea_popescu: something like that. "it's ours by right of living here". like the bedsheets in the campus dorm.
asciilifeform: and not like the other fella's usg.parents didn't give him the airline for free.
mircea_popescu: not like his parents didn't give it to him for free. or the dean did. or htat weird old guy. or someone anyway.
asciilifeform: as i understand, the morons didn't even have the simple lock on the ignition that a toyota has.
asciilifeform: as for 'property', from my pov the janitor was no more or less 'proprietor' of the boeing, than the recipient of printing press largesse who paper-'owned' it.
BingoBoingo: Inca should have ate less un popped popcorn if it doesn't want to feel the turdbumps
asciilifeform: ( interesting case, btw, they decided that shooting's too easy for him, put in 'psihushka', reportedly still alive today, as vegetable )
asciilifeform: or take the sargeant who stole two makarovs and narrowly missed brezhnev's head. etc
asciilifeform: ( 1980s. wasn't publicized until after the final curtain call, unsurprisingly. )
asciilifeform: there were at least 2 sov mechanics who climbed into migs and took off.
asciilifeform: the moar militantly retarded inca reich becomes , the moar tcells will produce.
asciilifeform: erry d00d who , instead of retreating into 'world of warcraft' and drink, goes out with a bang, is a nail in the inca coffin.
asciilifeform: the janitor with a pail of petrol, is a t-cell, killing off inca cancer, whether knows it or not.
asciilifeform: whether politically 'aware' or not.
asciilifeform: upstack re 'steal a boeing', recall the http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-07#821351 fella ?
asciilifeform: 'the man who kills you comes on bus, not on parachute' or how did it go.
mircea_popescu: otherwise... i didn't even go by bus as a jr high kid, wtf is this.
mircea_popescu: most of the bussing i ever did was via greyhound trip in mid 2000s, and deliberately for to meet various such people as use the bus in the us.
asciilifeform: i can't resist to ask, if mircea_popescu will say, what he was doing on the bus. what, all 63 porches were in the shop ?
mircea_popescu: so they have odd, to put it mildly, ideas. about personal space, about power and control, about proper behaviour, etcetera.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu were to go on the bus here, he will likely be the only white face on board
mircea_popescu: i expect most of the 20something crowd is socialized in the fenceless suburbia and lulzy-ass campus.
mircea_popescu: fancy that wonder, we were going to take the bus. what, not everyone does ?!?!?!?!
a111: Logged on 2015-01-21 01:37 mircea_popescu: very common problem people have on the internet, the "everyone is as stupid as me / everyone's a goat the same gender and age as me" issue.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in random http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-21#985204 lulz, "I find it hard to believe that I could sit next to you on the bus let alone serve you".
asciilifeform: the man who pulls a great heist, is pissing on his assigned cattle stall and makes break for it. normally gets nowhere, but this is orthogonal.
mircea_popescu: there's the man, who tells the woman, "it'll hurt" and then there's the boy, who tells the girl... "it won't hurt"
mircea_popescu: if you read the "social media", 100% the approach of the dweebs would be "i won't take up much of your time, anything"
asciilifeform: hm the 'knights and knaves' trilema or where was it
mircea_popescu: premature ejaculation is meta-stable because it is actually the key tool to the mating strategy of the beta.
mircea_popescu: except -- there's two mating strategies. there's the beta strategy where it tries to stick it in her while her back is turned ot the side and the owner is distracted. that'd better be quick.
asciilifeform: ( perhaps stretching the analogy, but possibly makes sense ? )
mircea_popescu: it should be selected against, and then disappear, right ?
mircea_popescu: tell me this -- ever wondered why premature ejaculation is metastable in the population ?
mircea_popescu: how are the kids who "could do anything" and whose "education" cost literal millions [in bezzlars, but what else is there ?!?!] conceptualize that "no, fuckfaced, you're NOT GOOD ENOUGH for this usage of this item" ?
mircea_popescu: the elements a) he was there ; and b) was bored and c) item was also there and so d) he did something with it. monkey implemented in human genome, what.
asciilifeform: dunno, erry week the local cops here pick up a car thief, who took for joyride, i dun think it is because 'did not understand property'
mircea_popescu: it's how they do it! it's how it's done! wut do these old ppl want even!
mircea_popescu: kid was bored at work, who may tell him he's not allowed ~the use~ of ~reddit's airplane~ to ~do some cool shit~ for a break ?
mircea_popescu: they call it "terrorism" and whatever, but all i can see is wediditredditardism. dood doesn't even conceptualize property in any sense above diego rivera's "it's the people's wall!".
mircea_popescu: anyway, but while discussing "new man" psychopathologies --- consider the dood who stole a plane to do barrel rolls on the basis of his video game experience.
mircea_popescu: really, it's the core of peasant culture.
mircea_popescu: very important that the group be small though, and stay small. must regard aliens suspiciously.
asciilifeform: it's healthy in 5yo kid ( imho, and possibly asciilifeform is not unbiased, he did it... ) but there are folx who dun grow anything on top of it..
asciilifeform: i suspect the latter is simply adult-neotenous variant of that pasttime of just about erry intelligent little boy, to take group of playmates and 'put them in regiment', march'em around with wooden muskets
mircea_popescu: or else the very narrow groupuscle thing, like moronskutsy what's his name, making "challenges" for his troop of five people AND THEM ONLY.
mircea_popescu: seems there's the two strategies - either a very low bar of individuation, as employed on 4chan's "anon" bla bla -- they're not anonymous, it's just the identity attaqinable is very simple
mircea_popescu: well, there's subreddits...
asciilifeform: if they stuck to the ~60-strong village -- could even scratch that itch. but as it is nao, no dice.
trinque: asciilifeform: "mother knew me, and only me" or whatever
trinque: makes one think that there's perhaps an earlier fixation than "anal", coming from the first inconvenience, the shhhlonk out of mother and into the hard light
asciilifeform: trinque: witness just how much of the homo redditus psychopathologies cluster really reduces to doomed , head-against-wall attempts at becoming individuable
trinque: the derps long for the goo tube
trinque heard a tard say exactly "mark of the beast would be so convenient; I wouldn't have to worry about losing my credit card" just the other day
asciilifeform: 'and in the shit future, the biomass will become so nguyen that will have to be branded with hot irons on forehead'
asciilifeform: i always liked that legend. tho i suspect that i read it somewhat differently from the ameri-christians.
asciilifeform: at a certain point, the entomologists who still insists on distinguishing individual specimens will be stuck trying to catch'em and put numbered collars on, like on giraffes in africa, or how else to distinguish the indistinguishable..
asciilifeform: '...there exists exactly one Nicola in the entire villagevi, and the only smaller kid at the age of rumspringa is Daniel, so you've got them...' etc
asciilifeform: the closer to the http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute period , the moar acute this problem, i suspect, and so when we will have seen 10 shitcoin scammers from the humid shitholistans, 7 will have been nguyen.
asciilifeform: the peasant ivanovs in ru, popescus left in ro, smiths in england -- not same ?
mircea_popescu: cuz they seem the same one.
asciilifeform: ( on top of this, quite possibly there are moar nguyens in vietnam than popescus in ro )
asciilifeform: i dun recall the name popping up prior
mircea_popescu: can't imagine who'd give an inkling of a shit, besides the republic's incredibly advanced entomology dept.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 14:34 asciilifeform: in other heathen lulz, https://archive.is/yUvwS << 2017-style shitfork , rebranded as a kind of faux-trb, 'Satoshi Vision' of... 'block size to 128 MB'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-22#1843595 << it seems that nguyen nobody's been trying to attention whore around the matter for years.
BingoBoingo: But I am getting soup and a free sweep out of the deal.
BingoBoingo: So there is a local holiday called "Dia de nostalgia" where the locals listen to old pop music. The Peruana is rather insistent that the holiday is today. Thusly she took me for a walk, is cooking soup, and is cleaning Casa Boingo. I am under the impression the holiday is later this week, as the busdrivers and kiosk operators appear to be as well.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/08/microsoft-announces-campaign-against-threats-to-their-democracy/ << Qntra - Microsoft Announces Campaign Against Threats To Their Democracy
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-22#1843560 << possibly i'm thick, but i read mircea_popescu's puzzle statement and dun grasp how this is possible, for the value to be conserved, if every mix operation rounds down to nearest whole
asciilifeform: in other heathen lulz, https://archive.is/yUvwS << 2017-style shitfork , rebranded as a kind of faux-trb, 'Satoshi Vision' of... 'block size to 128 MB'
mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/Nw7P3 << check it out, argentine retards squatting the words.
asciilifeform: i'll buy a 'he oughta have appeared here ~before~ strapped in the chair'.
mircea_popescu: not so impossible, from mine -- if CAMPOS were worth the cost of a decent burial, !!key CAMPOS would work.
mircea_popescu: or perhaps he's exactly a shitheel.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps he dun have a tcp pipe in the cokemachine chair.
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "the innocent zek". inca exists because the zeks exist.
mircea_popescu: i only read usg productions as literary fiction when it involves standing members ; otherwise it's liars playing liar. why would i trust CAMPOS more than the system he and his friends created ? or less, for that matter.
asciilifeform: they may have occasional droplet of fact, or may not
mircea_popescu: the only question is, why isn;'t mr campos here saying this ?
mircea_popescu: and they falsified the records, or do the records not even exist ?
asciilifeform: where's the difficulty in producing an arbitrary 'mr chump went into usa with bag of $ x' for any desired value of x
mircea_popescu: here's a possible theory : this dood went over the border twice to who knows, five times a day for months and fucking months, and they counted his money in front of him every time
mircea_popescu: specifically, how do they know ~the dollar amount~ ?
mircea_popescu: MPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 580 in U.S. currency. 3 . On ,or about February 9, 2017, at approximately 8: 17 p. m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 746 in U.S. currency. 4. On or about February 10, 2017, at approximately 11:52 p.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that may be, but what of 11 In furtherance of this conspiracy and to effect the objects thereof, the following overt acts, among others, were committed: 1. On or about February 8, 2017, at approximately 12:10 a.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 500 in U.S. currency. 2. On or about February 8, 2017, at approximately 10:29 p.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CA
asciilifeform: i'm not convinced that the mexican was zek ( well, until picked up and enzekked )
mircea_popescu: it's the cycle of ourdemocracy scamolade.
mircea_popescu: simple heuristic : what starts as a scam moves on to http://trilema.com/2015/so-the-broomstick-fired/ "agenture" and then finally on to the inca resting place.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw they always Officially print 'when crossing the border' (recall the ru d00d kidnapped 'in spain' etc.) it's the new 'shot while escape'.
mircea_popescu: i guess they're getting pretty desperate, if they're throwing randos in jail in lieu of making good on their usg.bitfinex takeover obligations.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:39 mircea_popescu: i have eight sets of "sb" (solid branch) : 503 q 222 ; 1466 q 3 ; 973 q 207 ; 983 q 252 ; 1651 q 258 ; 2963 q 189 ; 563 q 22 and 336 q 225. the first number is the count, the second the quality (depends on your mining, whatever) ; you can mix these, the game will floor the average quality. this means you can lose matter through mixing, so you want to mix stacks so as to obtain the highest possible quality final.
Mocky: oh hey, i didn't have the context for that knapsack challenge when I read it in the logs, had no idea what it meant. meanwhile forgot all about it
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:38 mircea_popescu: here's a nice eulora knapsack problem for anyone looking to sharpen their ACTUAL computer science skills :
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i think it was cu jacket on steel core, like bullet << They usually are
asciilifeform: evidently they have shit aim!11
a111: Logged on 2018-08-21 20:13 ben_vulpes: i say, this coordinated attack on the republic is underimpressive
a111: Logged on 2018-08-21 18:26 phf: this is for scripting though, the constraints are presumably not as tight. also gc is a kind of outer bound of a problem, can usually be special cased on a case by case. e.g. in erlang's case you can do region based allocation per process: cons as much as you want, collect everything when process dies.
ben_vulpes: i say, this coordinated attack on the republic is underimpressive
mod6: there was a huge loss of poultry a few years back: http://qntra.net/2015/05/us-poultry-and-egg-prices-headed-to-the-moon/
BingoBoingo: The whole mil vs milliones deal
BingoBoingo: It's a tale as old as time. Chicken company went bankrupt. Food gets low during a cold snap while the paperwork to get more food is en tramite. Chickens starve
mod6: BingoBoingo: eitherway, terrible news :/
asciilifeform: consing does a potentially very large amt of behind the scenes work, up to and including a full gc
phf: Mocky: it's an affectation, old time lispers used to refer to any kind of allocation as consing, but in c terms the implication there is malloc + whatever collection facility, not just a fire and forget malloc
asciilifeform: dun need any support from the writer
phf: (apparently erlang does that already. gc is a per-process, everything's collected when the process dies, but a very traditional gc can be enabled or disabled also per process. apparently you can also specify process's heap size on allocation, and do things when that heap fills up)
asciilifeform: all i particularly care for in re scripting is to obtain a replacement for perl/python/bash where the interpreter is simple (i.e. readable, fits-in-head, auditable, correct)
asciilifeform: for scripting, of the 'death is your gc' variety, and where proggy is not safety-critical ( no crypto , at least not directly ) the above dun apply, sure

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