asciilifeform: ( use the high:low variant )
asciilifeform: btw peltier, solar, piezo are not the only possib harvests. there is also inductive coupling from mains cabling ( street lights, etc , user yer imagination )
asciilifeform: ( don't put logger in the box per se, will miss good % of the flips, as e.g. sd card eats ridiculous current , which the harvester may or may not at a given time be able to supply )
mircea_popescu: and by reporting it "live" as it were, solve all the data integrity problems etc.
asciilifeform: from the intervals, can compute energy in.
asciilifeform: wire it up to a (battery-powered) universal remote thing, with the rx end indoors , where you can log.
mircea_popescu: just record the light switching.
asciilifeform: think of the harvester as an impedance matcher between the physical source of energy, and the consuming device.
asciilifeform: ltc3108 has an intake transformer . the demo board is sold in two variants, one where it has a low:high winding ( for peltiers, solar ) and one where high:low ( for piezos ). the latter is for noise/vibratory harvester -- e.g. tree branch in the wind.
asciilifeform: from this, in turn, can say, e.g., 'in the daytime, september, such-and-such latitude, can get J joules/sec , then after sundown, J', ... ' etc
asciilifeform: how to do : it charges cap ( the demo unit i have here from china, has 4 1F 2.2v caps ) and runs a boost converter from these, as well as lighting up 'power good' pin when 3.3v (from the latter) is available. so you put a test load on the 3.3v out ( say , 1W 100 ohm resistor ) and record events when 'power good' signal changes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: want to record not simply voltage, but just how many milliwatts/hrs available from the harvester ( in field practice you cannot do much of anything with e.g. peltier without harvester )
a111: Logged on 2018-08-16 18:18 asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform obtained and testing a LTC3108 , 'energy harvester', they've become cheapo
mircea_popescu: "day and nigth power output of solar panel throughout the year is here : ; observe the full moon on y and the blood moon on z" and so fucking on.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 04:50 mircea_popescu: "what ~exactly~ can be had from https://www.amazon.com/Glamorway-TEC1-12706-Thermoelectric-Cooling-Peltier/dp/B00IKDL22O or https://www.amazon.com/AOSHIKE-Polycrystalline-Silicon-Photovoltaic-Charger/ in the woods behind my house / on the roof of my windowsil" etc entirely not wasted effort.
asciilifeform: http://thewhet.net/2018/08/hanbots-znc-bouncer-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-54996 ftr.
asciilifeform: it's convention, is all, the high ports were reserved for the local ends of tcp pipes
mircea_popescu: right. i had no idea they even route.
mircea_popescu: me either. just, not what i remembered.
asciilifeform: it's a pile of shit, just like emacs, kernel, gcc, all the rest of the sad sack of shit errybody is stuck using.
asciilifeform: so then where is problem
asciilifeform: mod6: if on the shared machine, gotta avoid stepping on one another's feet, say which port you're gonna listen on
mircea_popescu: i suppose putting together a standard ircing recipe can't hurt anything
mod6: asciilifeform is our resident expert on these matters; are we still ok to let users run znc (at least for now)?
mod6: In your blog, you point out that you are using xchat. For me, since I use irssi (this might be helpful to others on the shared-environemt), it could be started up in a screen session, and simply ssh in attach your screen (or tmux?) to irc.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-30 00:31 hanbot: q for the management --can i set up znc on UY3?
mircea_popescu: as i'm 100% certain i'd have rejected a bill with the heading "see mp, it's more expensive nao than when we shook hands", i'm correspondingly 100% certain i don't care what happened. cuz that's why i'd have rejected it, "i don't care what happened".
mod6: Well with that, I'm glad I brought this up in here. The guidence is going to be: Pizarro won't do anything at this time for existing contracts. Upon renewal, you'll pay the posted price.
mircea_popescu: people who don't want long term contracts, ie don't want the fx risk, don't get long term contracts. it's that simple really.
mircea_popescu: for the other fucking thing -- suppose the price went the OTHER way. what, you're gonna hit everyone with pesky small extra bills ?
trinque: than over w/e beer money on the shared hosting
trinque: speaking for myself, I'm gonna be way crankier if I've got 0.3BTC of hardware down there that's suddenly homeless
mod6: Fair point, I just didn't want to judge if how much someones money is worth to them outright.
trinque: and then yeah, go get some ads up or something much more important
trinque: if you're trying to guard reputation, all you need to do is communicate clearly about the mechanism, and be done with it.
mircea_popescu: you seriously can't be sitting there spending hours on this pennies thing.
mod6: I can see that too, Sir. I just wanna make sure we're doing the Right Thing (tm).
mircea_popescu: people sign up for what they sign up for ; if that changes it's one thing to give them the more favourable price going forward ; but you can't do this retroactive thing ?
mircea_popescu: the only thing it does is make accounting overexpensive.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i really wouldn't bother ; prices can fluctuate, it's the nature of the beast, what are youi going to do, liquify all contracts and keep track of back and forth movements ? it's insanity.
mod6: This one was setup on May 3rd, and goes through the end of 2018.
mod6: mircea_popescu, for instance is paying for one of these for Mocky.
mod6: Initially, I thought this was the right approach. But also could see that maybe, this wasn't square enough for longer dated contracts. However, this sets a bad precedent of reprincing active contracts if pricing or circumstances change.
mod6: There are five (I previously thought there were four) accounts that have longer dated contracts, people who have signed up for a full year, or multiple months. We want to compensate those accounts for a mis-pricing posted since May 29th. The idea was to credit them 0.001 BTC/mo for June, July, and August.
asciilifeform: you give it a user, /sbin/nologin, put the thing itself in cron @reboot , that's it
mircea_popescu: especiallty considering most people who run a bot also want a znc -- if most people who want a znc get a free bot in the process it won't hurt anything.
mircea_popescu: evidently a lot of republicans, and even a bunch of lords use, so it'd be entirely not wasted effort if someone wants to flatten the ircbot into this role.
mod6: Ok, so this whole pricing thing with Pizarro. (Thread begins here: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-8-31#419975). We've been discussing this for a few days now. And anyone who has month-to-month service has been made correct in their pricing for August, as well as anyone who has established new "Shared Hosting" in August (nicoleci).
mircea_popescu: i expect, yes. 99% of the function is basically an irc proxy ; i expect 99% of the code is other dumb shit
asciilifeform: ( tho znc does dance the fleanode-demanded ssl crapola dance )
asciilifeform: the sad part, it doesn't even do very much, could prolly be replaced with slightly refined trinqueian irc bot
mircea_popescu: we seem to be collecting these.
asciilifeform: fwiw i configged mine without the www plugin, but was a while ago
asciilifeform: re znc -- it's a terrifying crock o'shit, but afaik there's no working replacement of yet
mircea_popescu: o btw re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828392 : ever screened http://trilema.com/2011/cel-mai-bun-film/#selection-55.0-55.14 for her ? it occurs to me it's possibly the best resource for student, genuine work of art, simplest language i can imagine.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-31 06:35 mircea_popescu: Mocky i realise now i misspoke ; the idea is for the bot to stop when it sees the "you gain experience but don't seem to improve" message ; not when you level up a skill
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 36 minutes ago: <Mocky> http://logs.bvulpes.com/eulora?d=2018-8-31#421381 << we're on the same page. bot looks for You practiced Gathering but you don't seem to get any better at it. in fact, looks only for You practiced
lobbes: BingoBoingo: take yer time. Im stuck in $mines for the next 7 hours or so anyways
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1846134 << aha, while I did make a seperate user for znc.. I did not do the sbin/nologin as shell. Will make this standard practice going forward
lobbes: BingoBoingo, asciilifeform: sry about the radio silence; was in transit to $saltmines. I can confirm I'm fine with BingoBoingo working his magic on the box (Im also fine with the idea of paying a 'service fee', this was most likely my doing)
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/08/new-york-jewtropolis-name-live-on-snapchat-zillow-other-sites-briefly/ << Qntra - New York 'Jewtropolis' Name Live On SnapChat, Zillow, Other Sites Briefly
BingoBoingo: Aite, going to caffinate a bit more. I would like to wait for lobbes to confirm the order.
BingoBoingo: lobbes is the D machine?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the quickest cure is simply to walk there and unplug his mains, and stick the disk in your lappy.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox cure lobbes's rk . but in the future, this will prolly have to cost something, as it uses hands.
BingoBoingo: I got hit with that error yesterday, rockchip was unresponsive to pings. Ended up pulling the drive, going over sshd_cofig and power cycling my Rockchip
asciilifeform: lobbes: rockchip boxen do not have vga/kbd consoles. so if this is so, the only way to recover your unit is to move the disk to another box and manually enable pw'd root login
lobbes: any ideas from anyone will be appreciated. I suspect znc is the culprit (problem started after setting that up) but I can't even diagnose without getting into the thing
lobbes: the weird thing (to me), is that it seems that I can -only- connect on port 5000 (which is the port I configured ZNC to use and the port through which I am speaking through -right now-)
lobbes: In addition: any attempts at reaching the www results in 403 errors.. (http://blog.lobbesblog.com/)
lobbes: so I have a question for the more experienced server operators out there: As of yesterday I found that I can no longer ssh into my rockchip (eggog: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/PKeSK/?raw=true)
lobbesbot: lobbes: The operation succeeded.
mats: thats not my complaint above, just has identical wording. i can't see the original complaints, as accounts were banned by the various providers
mats: cause knocking on the door is criminal, or something
mircea_popescu: who the hell would complain ?!
mats: for the record, vultr and feralhosting were uncooperative regarding abuse complaints
mircea_popescu: "what ~exactly~ can be had from https://www.amazon.com/Glamorway-TEC1-12706-Thermoelectric-Cooling-Peltier/dp/B00IKDL22O or https://www.amazon.com/AOSHIKE-Polycrystalline-Silicon-Photovoltaic-Charger/ in the woods behind my house / on the roof of my windowsil" etc entirely not wasted effort.
mircea_popescu: that said, some field investigation of powerplants is actually quite sorely needed. i suspect there's a decent gap between words online and objects the chinese ship, exactly in the vein of hanbot 's story above.
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/08/hanbots-znc-bouncer-notes/ << The Whet - hanbot's ZNC bouncer notes
mircea_popescu: so make one, that way you have where to put the story of that attempt, and we have what to link against.
mats: depending on how that goes, i'll explore different power plants, and if THAT goes well, there's a gnat port to build future ffa-gossipd
mats: mircea_popescu: over the next couple months, i'm going to reproduce the esp8266 experiment linked yesterday, and try to identify an even lower usable power state
mats: i neglected to parse for extended attributes, so i expect this csv will come in handy sooner rather than later. the n will aid a faster zgrep, sorry for the trouble
mats: if you want to do your own analysis, you can download a compressed tarball of the csv i created for your convenience here http://merr.ourea.feralhosting.com/ct.csv.tar.gz with the rows n,e,pem_cert (you'll have to prepend&append "-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----\n", "\n-----END CERTIFICATE-----" to this field). i would grab this sooner than later, bill payment for this box stops Sep21
mats: as for the tls collection work, i purchased a 4tb hdd feralhosting box and walked the various Certificate Transparency log servers https://www.gstatic.com/ct/log_list/log_list.json using https://github.com/CaliDog/Axeman to yield ~1tb / 400mn+ certs after deduplication
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's the lulz of all time.
mircea_popescu: http://www.ilblogdellestelle.it/ << i dunno if anyone knows about this lulzy italian... "movement" ? basically, a 60yo comedian joined up with an online advertising "strategist" and created a haphazardly dysfunctional http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-in-argentina-exactly-nothing-to-do-with-the-derps/#selection-197.0-197.39 which nevertheless coallesced a fifth or so of the italian voting public.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/are-you-a-muslim/#comment-49071 << this i totally gotta resurect. "In the quaint words of the virgin Mari, ' can not begÿn to ÿllustrate the ÿmmensÿti of the fuck do not gÿve.' "
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 13:21 mircea_popescu: an' finally, to be explicit rather than implicit : dear mats, while it's perfectly fine to be working with whichever lord you prefer to be working, if you don't enjoy working with me, but the place for that is in the respective castle.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a wordplay on pisi (which, http://trilema.com/2014/the-romanian-language-for-other-people/#selection-39.0-41.1 etc, ro word for pleasant young whore) and psycho.
asciilifeform: the kind with 4 leg
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 00:18 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845938 << this supposed untranslatability of ro, is illusory imho, translates just fine to ru and prolly other civilized tongues
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1845998 << sure, but this relies on the myth anyone speaks ru.
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, well yes Master but you introduced me to the field...lol
mircea_popescu warmly recommends slave labour, but i guess ben_vulpes stronghold not quite there yet
asciilifeform: oh hey is this the accountant chix
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, its been another adventure :)
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 23:00 diana_coman: none of the links on bimbo.club work for me -> I can't leave a comment
nicoleci: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845972, i had to because im sorry - i must have broken something. went back to the previous version..
mircea_popescu: how do you like the republican corporate environment, ho ?
ben_vulpes: oh no, this is a statal bezzle where the local cps takes "at risk" children and sells them to "foster care". statal human trafficking ring.
asciilifeform: iirc they have this 'feature' in all 50 states
mircea_popescu: the notion that anyone'd want someone else's kids is not unlike the notion someone'd want someone else's mortgage, used tp, etc.
mircea_popescu: oh oh, i see, someone's gonna TAKE them.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu hails from lands where the children roam free, are eventually returned to their parents, right?
asciilifeform: the kind with legs
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 19:04 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes france is not nearly as much "in the eu" as you think, especially the occitan portion. morever, europe is tiny, vienna is a short drive away, the vienna of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842767 ; and then hungary and serbia and so on.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i would like to pen the pets, this isn't quite the free-range wild wild west where i can brand them and expect them back later in the week
ben_vulpes: trinque: hey i like finding shitty bars in shitty neighborhoods and talking up the locals; don't want to live there
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 00:04 trinque: eh they're used to it
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 00:02 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845890 << florida is a shithole born of the dreams of new england mediocre, and populated by the offspring of bartenders and strippers.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1845990 << this is possibly the most fitting description of that state I've ever read.
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/eulora?d=2018-8-30#420850 << afaik ~nobody any moar has the jre horror, not even the saddest crapple folx, ~entirely abolished
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845959 << funnily enuff, i think i recognize all of the backgrounds..
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 19:38 mircea_popescu: and here's a special offering for the rotaku club president, one alf : http://trilema.com/2011/cea-mai-faina-chestie-la-romania/#selection-55.0-59.608
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845938 << this supposed untranslatability of ro, is illusory imho, translates just fine to ru and prolly other civilized tongues
asciilifeform: they're a bright blue nao
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845958 << oh hah the mega-plaza. they repainted the old habsburg houses there, btw, not long ago, just as i was there
trinque: eh they're used to it
trinque: "nawlens" might be worth a peek, pockets of authentic weird still lurking about.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:54 ben_vulpes: north of california, west of the rockies the humanpaste is ~entirely undifferentiated, curious to see if this holds for louisiana, tx, fl.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845890 << florida is a shithole born of the dreams of new england mediocre, and populated by the offspring of bartenders and strippers.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 19:15 mircea_popescu: nuts. apparently it was a very shitty bridge, though i don't recall this being known/discussed at the time.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 19:10 mircea_popescu: but the deep reasdon europe is tiny is because there's ~no wilderness, everything's built up, you can walk from town to town in less than a day without exception (this is not coincidental, either, but deliberate, civilisational checkmark at a time before train was "from church to church in one day", and applied as such on us east coast for instance). there's roads everywhere, they're reasonably good (certainly better than neg
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845908 << belarusia still has the primeval forest -- a+++ partizan terrain
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:48 ben_vulpes: a bit, yeah. i've also lived in the same libtard shithole for nigh on three decades at this point; far past time to meet the rest of america.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:35 mircea_popescu: alright. there's nothing wrong with "well... item i was working to rewrite for the past x weeks and was going to have done in 1-3 more weeks decided to critically crap out today ; my choice is either to be down for the remainder 1-3 weeks or else to duplicate/waste an estimate of y hours of work to get the old shiot back up hopefully by z. god damn."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845869 << i solved this by biting the bullet and actually baking a desk clone of phuctor
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:21 hanbot: and by "getting the thing to connect to irc" above i ofc mean to connect to freenode.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845843 << iirc 100% of the remaining fleanode boxen insist on the ssl liquishit
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:16 mircea_popescu: "<AlwaysHigh11> Ꮃⅰtһ оᥙr ІᖇᏟ ɑⅾ ѕᥱrⅴⅰⅽᥱ уo∪ саᥒ rеaϲһ a gⅼоbaⅼ audⅰᥱᥒϲᥱ ⲟf ᥱntrеⲣrеᥒе∪rѕ and fеntaᥒуⅼ ɑⅾⅾⅰctѕ witһ ᥱxtrɑοrdіnаrỿ еngaɡeⅿᥱnt rateѕⵑ httⲣs፡᜵／wⅰⅼlіɑmpіtсⲟⅽk．сοⅿ／" << meanwhile in dilbertism, the spamming moron club DIDN'T http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-14
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 17:24 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the inane shit occupying my time instead of republican efforts is embarrassingly trivial, but since you ask: i'm moving to texas, and so now must wrap fence that was supposed to be a two-season relaxed affair by mid september; throw out a decade+ of crap that i shouldn't have been so lax as to let stick around in the first place, pack my whole existence into transpocubes, get it moved to the
diana_coman: none of the links on bimbo.club work for me -> I can't leave a comment
mircea_popescu: apparently, one of the more famous pieces.
Mocky: mircea_popescu, was there an ro trilema piece about games of either balance or catch? iirc i couldn't make heads or tail of the auto translation some months ago
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2009/politica-pe-inteles/ << and the final bit in this lengthy enumeration, 2009 piece on politics saying... ~same things. except "Pana cand internetul va ajunge la nivelul de dezvoltare tehnologica care sa permita in sfarsit renuntarea definitiva la sistemul reprezentativ, " (aka, "until the internet will reach the level of development that'll allow the permanent dropping of the representative system") mea
lobbes: http://trilema.com/2010/dau-o-suta-de-lei/ << "Lowell, Mass, 2005" still weird to think that mp was at one point ~1.5hrs away from 17 y/o lobbes (who, at the time, was probably busy picking nose and "making flash websites"). Ah wasted youth
mircea_popescu: which is a nice place for a good reason. this being the reason.
mircea_popescu: hey nicoleci here's something for your burning interest re "ye olde pr0n days", courtesy of the fellow engineers in #trilema, cuz if he'd never have asked i'd prolly never have released them : http://trilema.com/2011/nsfw-gradina-edenului/
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you click them ? yeah, at the time trilema had a "premium" feature, you had to pay to get full size pics
ben_vulpes: all of the pics redirect to random trilemaz
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/dau-o-suta-de-lei/ << lulzy check where ro kids couldn't guess the identity of a folgers' coffee can
trinque will have going through these in just a bit, gotta afk for a while
mircea_popescu: and here's a special offering for the rotaku club president, one alf : http://trilema.com/2011/cea-mai-faina-chestie-la-romania/#selection-55.0-59.608
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/amintiri-din-texas-partea-cu-poze/ << literally, "remembrances of texas, the pictures section"
mircea_popescu: aaand ye olde story of busride, http://trilema.com/2011/are-you-a-muslim/#selection-51.0-55.347 (though it says virginia, but im pretty sure it was actually southerner than that, retrospectively).
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/servicii-de-taximetrie/#selection-53.35-57.49 << me being very impressed with san antonio taxi service (i used to own a taxicab fleet, and im the curious and inquisitve fellow you all know and occasionally love, so it's not exactly amateur hour).
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 20:19 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to illustrate the "10`001" species, did i ever recount the time my toilet was clogged... by an aligator ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman lmao! they have a point
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:52 mircea_popescu: pulled out an immense colt from her old lady purse and blew the kid's head all over the store.
diana_coman: there was some museum exhibit along the lines of why is italy shaped like a boot? because so much shit would never fit in a shoe
mircea_popescu: the time being 90s.
mircea_popescu: nuts. apparently it was a very shitty bridge, though i don't recall this being known/discussed at the time.
diana_coman: yes and ftr genoa is not even really southern
mircea_popescu: southern portions of italy were always dubiously in europe. but ye olde french, austrian an' german empires still work admirably well in this base sense.
diana_coman: except the Morandi bridge and possibly more of Italy from what I hear
mircea_popescu: but the deep reasdon europe is tiny is because there's ~no wilderness, everything's built up, you can walk from town to town in less than a day without exception (this is not coincidental, either, but deliberate, civilisational checkmark at a time before train was "from church to church in one day", and applied as such on us east coast for instance). there's roads everywhere, they're reasonably good (certainly better than neg
ben_vulpes: i'd written europe off largely on the basis of 'natoreich', but if there are habitable holes i'd rather live in stone than plastic
mircea_popescu: moreover, housing much better and much cheaper than anywhere in the world, local transportation that actually works (srsly, two digit airfare across the continent sorta deals).
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes france is not nearly as much "in the eu" as you think, especially the occitan portion. morever, europe is tiny, vienna is a short drive away, the vienna of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842767 ; and then hungary and serbia and so on.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i believe there's costs to sending people alone, esp if the idea is they'll be forever alone. seems to me either strengthen outposts or start new ones ~very far away~. otherwise, you know what gerrimandering is ?
ben_vulpes: uruguay or sa most likely; while marseilles sounds lovely and i vastly prefer french to spanish it is unfortunately in france and so also the eu for the forseeable future. pretty fed up with not living near major airport hubs; access to surf also a criteria for expatquest
ben_vulpes: and should it suck, well, i've at least snipped the girl's attachment to the easy comfortable lifestyle of the pacnw
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-30 15:17 Mocky: as an aside, I discovered the rationale behind the need for CS threading library, and boost for that matter. i.e. that incoherent c++ memory model prevented reliable semantics for multi-threaded access beore c++11, so they rolled their own and in the process had to also roll compatible data structures
ben_vulpes: north of california, west of the rockies the humanpaste is ~entirely undifferentiated, curious to see if this holds for louisiana, tx, fl.
mircea_popescu: san antonio was you know, proper champagne for breakfast on the riverwalk and things.
mircea_popescu: pulled out an immense colt from her old lady purse and blew the kid's head all over the store.
mircea_popescu: whereby the mayor was awarding whatever cert to an 80yo lady who, while the diner where she was eating was being robbed at gunpoint,
ben_vulpes: im also evaluating this claim that the lone star state is somehow not the same thin plastic veneer over zamac the rest of the country's made of. it at least has endogenous oil stores and the locals carry a reputation for being profit minded
ben_vulpes: a bit, yeah. i've also lived in the same libtard shithole for nigh on three decades at this point; far past time to meet the rest of america.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845827 << well... april's a long way past october, so there is that.
mircea_popescu: kinda how the ideal failure mode of usg mind hooks goes : it's effectual for the intended target and meaningless for the rest. monsanto idealia.
mircea_popescu: (i suspect, incidentally, that the above template is the #1 bane of republican effort in the years to come, chiefly because the #1 impedance mismatch we encounter is between uptime and rewrite, a manifestation of the old design-reality diphoria.)
mircea_popescu: in fact, there's everything right with it : both communicates reality and provides hooks for the rest to help.
mircea_popescu: alright. there's nothing wrong with "well... item i was working to rewrite for the past x weeks and was going to have done in 1-3 more weeks decided to critically crap out today ; my choice is either to be down for the remainder 1-3 weeks or else to duplicate/waste an estimate of y hours of work to get the old shiot back up hopefully by z. god damn."
lobbes: Still, I see what you mean. Was dumb of me to leave the 'legacy' logs dead in the water while folx wait for 'new and improved' logs. I'll work to get the legacy logs back to updating tonight.
lobbes: And really, I misspoke. Not completely $unrelated_item because I am going to use said item to also build the new #eulora logotron off of (existing logotron is fed from ZNC, which I'd like to remove from the equation entirely)
a111: Logged on 2018-08-25 03:09 lobbes: in fact, was going to announce: I'm getting closer to finishing what will be a genesis for a 'logbot-command-router' in python that does the talking and listening with postgres (an older but relevant thread for context: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-29#1531123)
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845829 << -not- entire rewrite of auctionbot, but the smaller foundational item it will sit on >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-25#1844391
mircea_popescu: and they're gonna make such a pile of gin...
mircea_popescu: they weigh... 310tons.
Mocky: grats on the tubers lol
mircea_popescu: precisely in the vein of "the usual imperial approach", "get emails!!!!" is on some 3 ring binder at ft meade or something, by how fixated they are.
hanbot: Mocky naturally if/when i figure the shit out i'll make a blogpost
mircea_popescu: anyway, the odds are getting pretty good the "spammer"'s actually our good friends at http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-26#1844799
hanbot: and by "getting the thing to connect to irc" above i ofc mean to connect to freenode.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 20:30 mircea_popescu: breifly back to phf 's discussion of r+ thing : i confess i mostly did it to encourage the "spammer" to put registration in. sadly... went instead the way of http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-08-13.log.html#t22:59:16
mircea_popescu: wut do ? wut do ? http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/ ; specifically : for as long as every moron thinks he can make his own decisions, ugs's the necessary end result.
mircea_popescu: because this is what the shit even exists FOR ; getting everyone to be a moron, only some with a positive and some with a negative inca outline is perfectly fine "getting everyone to be a moron" outcome, as far as inca's concerned.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 23:46 mircea_popescu: ethereum being "smart", it's not just mempool, but also cpupool. and the "soft fork" being essentially a "enumerate badness" attempt, you still gotta check and make sure tx isn't on the verboten list. which computation you do for free, because you believe in mit, socialism and buterin.
mircea_popescu: "<AlwaysHigh11> Ꮃⅰtһ оᥙr ІᖇᏟ ɑⅾ ѕᥱrⅴⅰⅽᥱ уo∪ саᥒ rеaϲһ a gⅼоbaⅼ audⅰᥱᥒϲᥱ ⲟf ᥱntrеⲣrеᥒе∪rѕ and fеntaᥒуⅼ ɑⅾⅾⅰctѕ witһ ᥱxtrɑοrdіnаrỿ еngaɡeⅿᥱnt rateѕⵑ httⲣs፡᜵／wⅰⅼlіɑmpіtсⲟⅽk．сοⅿ／" << meanwhile in dilbertism, the spamming moron club DIDN'T http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-14
mircea_popescu: #1841508 because "that's hard" right, and instead fucking about with unicode to destroy the usual imperial http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-27#1491698 approach.
hanbot: meh. installing znc on piz's shared box was a breeze, but actually getting the thing to connect to irc turns out to be a royal pain in the ass.
mircea_popescu: this is a terrible arrangmeent, recall the onset of the (meanwhile, botched) pizarro wire/auction was a month ago, and waited for the same thing ?
ben_vulpes: i remain available and actively supporting mod6 and BingoBoingo when they need something from me on the pizarro front
ben_vulpes: days are mostly wake -> grind out food credits -> grind out more holes in ground -> sink posts -> fabricate and erect cladding -> sleep, with the occasional beer
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the inane shit occupying my time instead of republican efforts is embarrassingly trivial, but since you ask: i'm moving to texas, and so now must wrap fence that was supposed to be a two-season relaxed affair by mid september; throw out a decade+ of crap that i shouldn't have been so lax as to let stick around in the first place, pack my whole existence into transpocubes, get it moved to the
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 13:43 mircea_popescu: (for the curious : there's also a dilbert-for-women, there to make usg.womanhood palatable in the sense dilbert makes usg.corporatelife palatable. i suspect it might be a lot better illustration of wtf's wrong with "impotent cvasi-opposition" for boys, as they're not similarily conditioned and so lacking the pivots might even understand the workings of THAT hidden hand)
lobbes: Summary of the above threads: Edis vps finally got back to me after ~16hrs downtime with lame excuse of "we had some issues we never communicated. We identified the issue tho. Sry for inconvenience". I said "fuck em'" and will be moving logs to pizarro once done with current $unrelated-item
a111: Logged on 2018-08-28 00:57 lobbes: my vps on edis which housed my old znc has been mysteriously unreachable for 12 hours. Of course, cannot easily get in contact with them
lobbes: The reason I am migrating, is contained in this thread >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845073
lobbes: I am close (hopefully by end of this weekend) to finishing the genesis for the 'logbot-command-router' (see also #t log) After which I will be migrating the #eulora logotron residing on heathen Edis vps to Pizarro shared hosting
mircea_popescu: (for the curious : there's also a dilbert-for-women, there to make usg.womanhood palatable in the sense dilbert makes usg.corporatelife palatable. i suspect it might be a lot better illustration of wtf's wrong with "impotent cvasi-opposition" for boys, as they're not similarily conditioned and so lacking the pivots might even understand the workings of THAT hidden hand)
a111: Logged on 2018-08-29 17:52 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845577 << usg.mortgage is a device for separating salaried zeks (engineers, law, etc) from their 'excess' fat. not for millenial pauper to borrow against... what, exactly. (maybe organs?)
mircea_popescu: the overarching point being that neither #trilema nor tmsr is a sort of dilbert-larping-zone, here for the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845588 "salaried zek" element to gather after hours, smoke, and predictably if circularly discuss how-stupid-everyone-but-us-is.
mircea_popescu: an' finally, to be explicit rather than implicit : dear mats, while it's perfectly fine to be working with whichever lord you prefer to be working, if you don't enjoy working with me, but the place for that is in the respective castle.
mircea_popescu: what are you working on, these days ? why do i have to ask this ? etc.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of this, let's try an' resync with ben_vulpes also. after http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831355 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-25#1837688 haven't heard much. is this different from "i've found myself obscure rural church, much better republic for my needs than the genuine article" and if so, how ?
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 22:45 lobbes: psa: looks like my box that houses the archive-o-matic went offline on Friday. It back up and eating through backlog; www should update sometime in the next ~ 2 hours >> http://lobbesblog.com/queryarchive/view_domains.php
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-22#1843763 << i've not even checked this, because seems http://logs.minigame.biz/latest.log.html died on the 27th ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what did the chix do to BingoBoingo !... when i saw him, was pure muscle, like wolf << Remember the Cheese Fascination that hit you here. Well, when I got fridge+kitchen curosity at the grocery store got the best of me. It turns out there are many different kinds of Dulce de Leche (the cremoso is bullshit)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Aite, I'll add beach running to the routine.
asciilifeform: mod6: i'm on a travel box atm so i dun see things in entirely realtime, apologies for the wait
asciilifeform: what did the chix do to BingoBoingo !... when i saw him, was pure muscle, like wolf
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/08/29/waking-up-into-spring/ << Bingo Blog - Waking Up Into Spring
mircea_popescu: "Once the shockwave passes over you, you need to find shelter immediately and stay sheltered under as much concrete and steel as possible for 48 hoursthis is critical" << this is terrible advice lol. metal cover for shelter more dangerous than the explosion itself. Bremsstrahlung ftw.
mircea_popescu: i like the "If you see someone wearing a motorcycle helmet have an accident, DO NOT pull their helmet off for any reason. By all means, loosen the chin strap, but leave the helmet on and let the paramedics or doctors deal with it. You dont know what that helmet is holding together"
mircea_popescu just watched "the ice storm", is slightly pissy nobody in there made cristina ricci take off her top.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-29 20:40 Mocky: and then on the way home traffic jam due to moped rider who not only unable to maintain 30 in a 45, but also (as seen when I finally passed him) had mirrors *taped* on, and not even with duck tape but with medical tape
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845760 << good thing you and the other dads got together, pooled your house mortgages or w/e, and lent him 100k to go to college.
BingoBoingo: Busses and people parking on side streets are the major causes of traffic congestion here to the extent it exists
BingoBoingo: Mocky: But yes lots of low power two wheel motor vehicles here, but they tend to go just as fast as everyone else. Most people with cars drive Uber to offset the cost, most with motocicletas do food deliveries
mircea_popescu: yes "stalin industrialized" ; but much like "napoleon reformed", he didn't follow upon an empty lot. lotta mazarin work for the king went into the preparatory phase.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 19:29 mircea_popescu: that "trademark" is now owned by unilever, as you might've guessed, and it's used to sell items in qatar, as you might've also guessed. the point being that the poor rich arabs are trying to salvage whatever's left of the tsar's pile of salvaged material, today.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-29 18:39 asciilifeform: and yes pressure from su was the thing holding the insanity of fdr.usg into some semblance of sense.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845690 and to continue http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713741 : the russian economy was actually just about larger than that of france and england COMBINED in the first portion of the 19th century.
Mocky: and then on the way home traffic jam due to moped rider who not only unable to maintain 30 in a 45, but also (as seen when I finally passed him) had mirrors *taped* on, and not even with duck tape but with medical tape
Mocky: tiny blue 'my little pony' car pulled into the spot next to me, damn these things are small. I've seen before, i suppose many times but this one even had a gnome hop out and scurry off to the market.
mircea_popescu: they even have strass.com!
mircea_popescu: (mostly because what's known (because marketed, duh) as "swarovski" today was bohemian crystal back in the days of my childhood, when 5-10lb fruit bowls of the stuff were commonly gifted ; but before that... it was strass
mircea_popescu: but consider the german of https://8ch.net/fascist/res/185.html#185 "I feel like my German translation is shit today. It's been a year since I've been in Europe and approaching six months plus of no classes"
BingoBoingo: Eh, if you go to live anywhere a new language is spoken your accent can outrun acquiring finess in the language.
mircea_popescu would count girl born in china chinese, if she lived there, sure.
mats: well, chinese church, and their accent was very good
mats: i've met people like that, e.g. kids of missionaries, their chinese skills were well regarded at my church