benkay: which != law
benkay: the bar, really.
benkay: i hate seeing people hire lawyers and kowtow excessively.
benkay: just, you know.
benkay: they serve you, tat.
benkay: let's...let's do that.
benkay: ah.
benkay: which would?
benkay: got dat seriez 7 yet?
benkay: eesh
benkay: i appreciate it, man.
benkay: yeah
benkay: any standards at all would be useful, ThickAsThieves.
benkay: ah.
benkay: IB?
benkay: nah, i'm just being obtuse again.
benkay: hypothetical conversation, ThickAsThieves.
benkay: exchanges.
benkay: and sometime down the road, you're going to catch a great red one a whole meter up your pooper
benkay: and the next
benkay: and the next
benkay: this time
benkay: or you can
benkay: yeahj
benkay: MOAR VOLUME
benkay: exchange needs more vol
benkay: y'all assume everything works towards your benefit instead of assuming that everyone's out to fuck you and taking appropriate countermeasures
benkay: this is why this space is so fucking scamridden
benkay: damn
benkay: yeah
benkay: Duffer1: can he keep the coins on BTCTC?
benkay: that's the funniest thing i seen all week
benkay: oh Duffer1
benkay: only seven new scamassets listed
benkay: quiet day
benkay: thestringpuller: ah
benkay: what is your time horizon on this play? and why are you raising money in -assets instead of with private investors?
benkay: oh goddamn you
benkay: is it not?
benkay: i think you have to convince me that distribution of inputs to hash fn that generates coinbases is not random
benkay: so fundamental process of cryptocurrency is run one way function and get bunch of zeros
benkay: no i don't mean anything fancy
benkay: and a reasonable one
benkay: actually that's a not scam requirement i think
benkay: can i come visit you?
benkay: i mean i don't know shit from shinola but isn't this called quantum annealing?
benkay: yeah isn't this called quantum annealing?
benkay: instead of actually building quantum systems, let's emulate them in silicon?
benkay: oh huh wait let me see if i get it
benkay: i mean that's a good place to start
benkay: sure
benkay: i don't really do formal math, so i have a hard time really digging your kind of shit but believe you me i will dedicate some horsepower
benkay: etc
benkay: where in the chain you plan to optimize
benkay: because now i have to figure out how exactly you're going to implement that
benkay: i'm just complaining about getting nerd sniped
benkay: i get it
benkay: we both have the roles that we must play in this interaction
benkay: you know the rules of the game
benkay: you see, i know the rules of the game
benkay: of course you'd say that
benkay: and the worst is that it's talking about science
benkay: either really great scam or troll or real
benkay: ugh
benkay: just asking from the perspective of someone who finds the applied maths a fun, interesting and from time to time lucrative past time.
benkay: ?
benkay: how will your proof inform algorithm design, eh
benkay: what's the insight your proof gives you on the factoring process?
benkay: they're vastly less arrogant than the neckbeard neckbeards
benkay: i like the hipster neckbeards
benkay: that's what i shoulda said
benkay: plus i been drinkin and smokin and so i'm gettin incendiary
benkay: easily
benkay: and i'm pretty bummed they come out so easile
benkay: dems my biases
benkay: i assume that everyone is a white middle aged male on the internet
benkay: built in bias from growing up on the internet
benkay: i'm sorry man
benkay: tsp a: you ain't icing anyone and b: cracka u soooo white
benkay: tablets
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu of course there are no free lunches. you do need to match your tech to your needs, though, and a dedicated box is maybe MAYBE fucking overkill for a mess of blogs in 2013.
benkay: abstracts these problems
benkay: virtualization is a thing these days
benkay: thestringpuller: naaaahmmean?
benkay: "uptime guaranteed or we shoot a neckbeard"
benkay: dat much-vaunted eastern european uptime
benkay: buh bye
benkay: i certainly categorically do not day trade.
benkay: and i only really look at them once a month or so
benkay: in which I am interested.
benkay: "care"
benkay: there are like 3 assets I care about
benkay: i have actually filtered assbot
benkay: but that was a good bet
benkay: hah no.
benkay: i've been keeping abreast, but am failing to draw the connection.
benkay: mircea_popescu: I can't say as I understand what you're going on about.
benkay: again with the ugh
benkay: way to overexplain the joke thestringpuller
benkay: plus bizarre american television & sexual standards
benkay: oh. that's right. massive numbers of idiots and their "ideas".
benkay: why do we have to invent this useless bullshit, give it a fancy name and then popularize the crap out of it?
benkay: what's wrong with the classic striptease?
benkay: yup. ugh.
benkay: ;)
benkay: you'll probably get another Fractal
benkay: don't mention model names, ThickAsThieves
benkay: scam
benkay: mining company
benkay: for your unit
benkay: consequences will never be the same, mircea_popescu.
benkay_: although
benkay_: faggot, sir.
benkay_: software developers
benkay_: politicians
benkay_: teachers
benkay_: people who can't drop the f-bomb:
benkay_: or willing to endure the scorn of the internet
benkay_: wealthy enough to buy your privacy
benkay_: you have to be in the underclass
benkay_: but there are criteria
benkay_: oh yeah
benkay_: because participation in reality television shows pretending to be capitalists trumps actual participation in the market
benkay_: they generally sit around calling each other "faggot" all day, eating processed cheese and dreaming about competing on The Apprentice
benkay_: average american isn't really a good basis for comparison with anything
benkay_: i lol'd
benkay_: upstanding romanian citizens
benkay_: mircea_popescu: http://vimeo.com/7670880
benkay_: not even a single unit
benkay_: 3 units!
benkay_: painful to be gotten rid of
benkay_: well
benkay_: am i going about this bass-ackwards in looking for people with functional businesses and abstracting the parts they don't want to deal with and making myself utterly indispensable?
benkay_: hm. seems like you have to get in bed with people who are mismanaging their businesses and straighten their shit out.
benkay_: baha
benkay_: no.
benkay_: mircea_popescu: "look i don't fucking need you" attitude translates into "o damn that guy has dat competence" in the audience mind?
benkay_: mircea_popescu: how does being an unrelenting asshole turn into a performance edge?
benkay_: hrm.
benkay_: and watch all your borrowers default.
benkay_: just denominate loans in btc
benkay_: but srsly mircea_popescu how'dja do it?
benkay_: pankkake: do it.
benkay_: hard work never plays into it
benkay_: mircea_popescu: how did you come to be independently wealthy?
benkay_: classic denomination play
benkay_: borrow fiat, buy btc.
benkay_: yeah
benkay_: srsly.
benkay_: srsly
benkay_: you'll wake the monster
benkay_: stoppit
benkay_: ssh
benkay_: mostly 'cause http://www.pattonboggs.com/professional/carol-vancleef
benkay_: i doubt vancleef is smickles
benkay_: Rulother: a+
benkay_: asic space heaters you guys
benkay: thestringpuller: same thing
benkay: retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
benkay: so: retroshare. anyone played with it?
benkay: i'm just going to keep on keeping on with my personal capitalization project.
benkay: there's some time, then.
benkay: mircea_popescu: heh. there's not that much in the entire mining scam?
benkay: "run your heater."
benkay: "..."
benkay: "what if it's not cold?"
benkay: "just run your heater"
benkay: i've seriously been pondering doing a warehouse or a shittily insulated office and putting ASIC blades by every desk
benkay: rent on next office is going to include utilities tho i tell you that
benkay: i'd ipo something idiotic sounding like ASICHEAT but then idiots would fund it and i'd have to go fucking deal with stuff
benkay: great heat source
benkay: why not
benkay: and asic furnaces
benkay: as well as asic water heaters
benkay: i'm hoping to sell asic floor tile heaters at some point in the next decade
benkay: let's stay under the radar for a little longer, shall we?
benkay: true dat
benkay: Luke-Jr: do go on.
benkay: to bitcoin, mes ami
benkay: data is hard to come by in the asic mining space.
benkay: i am very curious about those raw asic chips all over alibaba
benkay: javascript and html can be super light if done correctly
benkay: 5 dollar roll-to-roll printed smart phones are coming (eventually)
benkay: mircea_popescu: COME ON
benkay: mircea_popescu: browser as universal runtime
benkay: nubbins`: https://neocities.org/
benkay: infinite idiots problem
benkay: how does one query for the last diff change?
benkay: ;;tslb
benkay_: hurp dorp
benkay_: "Buyer's"
benkay_: dat bfl facebook notice
benkay_: and only most of the time.
benkay_: polite maybe
benkay_: nice?
benkay_: thestringpuller: i'm already betting against it on bitbet
benkay_: your dedication to this fruitless endeavour is indicative of why you'll never amount to anything
benkay_: i weary of your antics
benkay_: go home
benkay_: oh child
benkay_: it does seem pretty clear cut.
benkay_: you have the aribeiter telling you how the thing's going to work
benkay_: right there
benkay_: com
benkay_: it's in the motd
benkay_: dot
benkay_: assets
benkay_: dash
benkay_: bitcoin
benkay_: dot
benkay_: log
benkay_: much like your capital
benkay_: your credibility doth erode
benkay_: fractal: any day now.
benkay_: fractal: logs or gtfo
benkay_: fractal: do you have logs of that conversation to share?
benkay_: THIS IS BITCOIIIIIN
benkay_: gtfo
benkay_: "morals"
benkay_: Luke-Jr: this is the delusion.
benkay_: Luke-Jr: he doesn't think he wasn't prepared to lose
benkay_: fractal: but, am more than happy to let you write the terms.
benkay_: fractal: because i don't trust you.
benkay_: fractal: second condition: this bet will clear on bitbet
benkay_: will you take this bet?
benkay_: within the year
benkay_: fractal: i'm going to bet 1 btc you can't ship a betting site that beats bitbet's committed coins for a rolling three month period
benkay_: and will be what sticks in this case as well.
benkay_: and the definition is typically what sticks
benkay_: it's pretty common for a clause in english to be followed by a definition
benkay_: fractal: what's funny to me is that you're the only person arguing the "as advertised" clause supersedes the bet definition.
benkay_: eventually you'll tire of it, and then just be another human who whined about being scammed on a loosey-goosey bet definition.
benkay_: fractal: that's basically blackmail, and is image-wise indistinguishable from the hit you'll take from being a sore loser
benkay_: fractal: what's the sum total you lost? some thousands of dollars? you're choosing to get angry instead of getting smart.
benkay_: then you'd quantify something that the rest of us intuit, which is that it's a negligible percentage.
benkay_: fractal: maybe a useful thing would be to collect statistics on bitbet disputes
benkay_: just go do something useful.
benkay_: and don't waste time fighting an elephant.
benkay_: don't be a sore loser. it's really not attractive.
benkay_: nobody cares
benkay_: oh fractal
benkay_: butthurt. butthurt everywhere.
benkay_: right? solder it up yaself, and if it hits 1/1, call it a day
benkay_: more chips than were expected though i think was complaint
benkay_: yup
benkay_: don't really see how b follows from a
benkay_: take their money, smile, and move on.
benkay_: just don't get emotionally invested