Mats_cd03: I am a god in the kitchen
mike_c: someone has to pay for the trophy
davout: or just point me to the logs :-)
davout: jurov: why does a chess tournament over the internet need funding?
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ThickAsThieves: ;;rate aethero -10 Sullied everything the WoT stands for. Scammed via Ziggap and BTCJam
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ThickAsThieves: ;;rate TradeFortress -10 Scammed many people through various internet services then disappeared.
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ThickAsThieves: ;;rate Ukto -10 Managed Bitfunder poorly, lost money for many people, poor communications in the aftermath.
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ThickAsThieves: ;;rate parseval 1 Very helpful in transitioning some web software and assisting the team.
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ThickAsThieves: ;;rate Namworld 1 Handled the closure of BTC-BOND responsibly and kept up with payments until my account was settled.
deadweasel: meh, they gave me some oxycodone.
Mats_cd03: I love the smell of danger.
punkman1: Node.js is so hip even their package manager gets VC funding
nubbins`: thye had frizzle fry and brown album there as well
nubbins`: the talking heads double is 180gram, sounds like my ears are being tickled
Duffer1: wtb tales from the punchbowl in vinyl
nubbins`: shit gets reissued all the time on vinyl too, hard to keep track
nubbins`: they had 3 or 4
nubbins`: epic finds at the record store today
BingoBoingo: Once shit gets mined, then maybe care more about a txid
BingoBoingo: benkay: It is mostly people not understanding what parts of transaction matter (inputs, outputs, and signature) and parts the network couldn't care less about (txid hash)
jurov: yes. but as one can't withdraw from there until all deposits get confirmed
mike_c: hardly seems worth the effort for 100k
benkay: because most bitcoin-soliciting "securities" are either a) actually scams or b) don't give two shits about the US regulatory landscape.
the20year3: private placement memorandum, what the SEC wants to take investment
the20year3: Back in july it seemed a few companies were going to have lawyer-drafted ones, but they never came out, we should have ours out in 10 days, so i'm curious why no one else had them
benkay: not to my knowlege, the20year3, but I haven't read *everything* yet
Majjiok: dexX7: because no body is spamming the LTC network with modified transactions
deadweasel: punkman: those comments don't agree with their 'fix'
Majjiok: Anyhow: if you are worried about privacy then you should always use Tor with Bitcoin-QT, plus coinjoin/mixing for most of your transactions. By default is very easy to link addresses owned by the same person.
Majjiok: exactly. Coin control, which just means that you get to choose from what addresses you are going to spend the coins - thus you can avoid spending coins from the address in which you have received the "tracking device" :)
pankkake: yes. clients like Armory, the Coin Control patch for bitcoin-qt…
Majjiok: so the sender of the dust will be effectively able to determine that one single person/entity controls that set of addresses
Majjiok: When you'll spend that dust, the address that received it will be linked to other addresses owned by you
twizt: otherwise down down down
KRS1: SOMEONE GET FONTAS ON THE RED PHONE!!! Find out where Wolong is!! Get the helicopters warmed up!
KRS1: so like this mallebility problem, manifesting as ddos now but its not ddos it seems it could be coming from the network itself.
ThickAsThieves: an amazing thing happened to me today, i made a controversial comment on a local news website, when they deleted it, i left another comment asking why they deleted my reasonable questions. They restored my original comment and deleted the new one.
ThickAsThieves: gox is so bad they are a fork now
ThickAsThieves: “With fixed supply, bitcoin’s deflationary bias should also be clear. That quality serves owners well when exchanging into foreign currency, but it would be onerous for any economy operating with it as legal tender. Indeed Weimar Germany was unpleasant, but so was the Great Depression.”
ThickAsThieves: "At the risk of sounding like a luddite unable to recognize the transformative effects of evolving technologies –– bitcoin looks like an innovation worth limiting exposure to."
ThickAsThieves: smart guys, sony http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/11/5401084/sony-mp3-player-comes-inside-bottle-of-water
Asa9: For a fun time, take LSD and study the Talmud!
HeySteve2: <jurov> iirc orthodox do jews use some kind of acid to get shaved kosher (it's forbidden to use blades) <- I guess that's why they call them... acidic Jews hoho
jurov: or they don't shave at all, ofc
nubbins`: TBF they're like $20 clippers
nubbins`: my clippers are fucked, can't use them anymore
nubbins`: real men cut their own hair
mike_c: pankkake is atc broker to the stars
nubbins`: cuz buying something and breaking it hurts the company that made it
jurov: why macbooks? they caught stealthcoin?
ThickAsThieves: it's arguably one of the last real news providers we have
nubbins`: from what i understand, it's like the american CBC
davout: the atc haiku
davout: to the moon
davout: nubbins`: TO. THE. MOON.
nubbins`: oh, wait, i've TOTALLY heard these guys before.
ThickAsThieves: the exchange is open source
ThickAsThieves: there was no plan to swindle
nubbins`: "I choose ... ATC as well, a school, a place where I can screw up and have a do-over. As someone well aware that he is absolutely not qualified to host yet another Bitcoin exchange or other high-value, high-risk site, ATC seems a fine lab environment to write code around a tiny blockchain, create wallets, sites, services"
nubbins`: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-as-safe-as-wire-transfers-says-ny-hedge-fund/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CoinDesk+%28CoinDesk+-+The+Voice+of+Digital+Currency%29
nubbins`: aww, just as i was about to ask whether it was officially a pump and dump now
ThickAsThieves: i replaced lines there
nubbins`: the price will only go up!
ozbot: The REAL Altcoin : altcoin
Apocalyptic: altcoin really hit the best exchange
ThickAsThieves: i wonder how things wouldve turned out if theywere white
nubbins`: haven't honestly heard of them until just now, but i've been on a big BB kick lately, so i think i'm gonna download some
kakobrekla: i guess this is the closest
azi`: too lazy to check.. is there a bet on bitbets about gox not returning funds?
ThickAsThieves: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-as-safe-as-wire-transfers-says-ny-hedge-fund/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CoinDesk+%28CoinDesk+-+The+Voice+of+Digital+Currency%29
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell herbijudlestoids pools typically give you shares and those lead to coins when someone in the pool solves a block.
MisterE: haha punkman they got cold Goxed
cazalla: as for domino's, i was speaking to the australian version, nfi what american domino's is like
cazalla: wonder if anyone necked themselves
KRS1: sux for them
PsychoticBoy: some are stupid enough, prob not in this channel but overall there are enough ppl who were miljonair and are now broke :)
PsychoticBoy: That is what I thought, but then I heard ppl cry
KRS1: Their food made papa johns taste like ass, which it does. They seemed to have taken the lead there.
KRS1: Namworld: I love the color scheme
KRS1: the point was it has improved a lot
Namworld: Missed a /join there
KRS1: Domino's Pizza and foods have made major improvements. I was impressed last time I ordered from there.
KRS1: hah ya i see why the price is where it is..the coin is scarce..once theres more supply its going to drop like a bitch.
KRS1: Oofuh thats some milker titty there.
BingoBoingo: KRS1: It's on one really shady exchange. Eventually it will make it to bigger, yet still shady exchanges. It is the way two cans and a string works
BingoBoingo: In the meantime, Altcoin traded for 575 satoshis, which is a mark I don't think Doge ever reached
BingoBoingo: Altcoin is going to the moon it seems... https://openex.pw/index.php?page=trade&market=111
ozbot: Why Doesnt Satoshi Continue Replying on the Forum?
Testing123: and someone sold the right to sell BTC for 5000USD
Apocalyptic: puts give you the right to sell an underlying asset at a certain price
MisterE: the/that*
Testing123: and by lower case i, I mean the seller of puts
MisterE: puts are oders the execute at a certian price right?
Testing123: can anyone care to explain to me the purpose of writing the puts? perhaps i just sold a very big amount of btc for fiat?
kakobrekla: what about them
MisterE: how japanese to blame an unrelated and known btc bug for their own crappy internal wallet management
asciilifeform: and like the earthquake, most folks only 'believe' the dead lights, backed up toilets, disappeared heat
asciilifeform: methinks 'the holiday' is as good a name as any for that event.
mircea_popescu: like say the california quake
mircea_popescu: KRS1 yeah but the thing with large moves is that nobody believes it
asciilifeform: dreamed a while ago that looking out the window, no traffic. asked some bum, 'why', he answers 'dontcha know, it's The Holiday, finally happened'
mircea_popescu: so the us is restructuring its foreign debt after all huh
KRS1: i'm pretty resourceful..worse comes to worse I can live off the land somewhere remote..or even better dump all my savings into a sizable yacht and live life as a mariner.
mircea_popescu: the serenissima welcomes you wherever you go.
KRS1: I'm thinking about fleeing to maybe new zealand..idk.. can't seem to settle on some part of the world that isn't or won't be fucked up in some way.
KRS1: they've paid into it
KRS1: the fuck?
KRS1: yeah they wanted to spin bridges into a big thing by doubling down on both sides of the pros/cons
mircea_popescu: also, if anyone is looking for homework, http://trilema.com/2014/no-its-not-the-revenue/
mircea_popescu: it's basically being the bane of hipsters.
KRS1: just do the opposite =D
mircea_popescu: when you take a position in a trending stock only for the trend to immediately and abruptly reverse.
Mats_cd03: whats the gift
mircea_popescu: you got the gift.
mircea_popescu: i think it was actualy trading 90s on the 6th
Mats_cd03: the chart seems pretty clear
mike_c: i think you are. even if you overbid it would fill at the lowest ask.
Mats_cd03: i adjusted the price while i was high
Mats_cd03: i accidentally bought some s.mpoe at coinbr at 15% above the going rate
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform those saps'd intimidate themselves with a coca cola cap.
asciilifeform: witness all the 'me toaster is bugged!!1!' saps on schneier's blog
asciilifeform: intimidation-by-botched-surveillance (or rumour thereof)
asciilifeform: sometimes click-hiss is the objective though.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if bugged landlines were presided over by the meta-kgb rather than the classic kgb you couldn't audibly detect the listener switching on.
asciilifeform: if bugged cell phones were presided over by Meta-NSA instead of classic nsa, the buggers would store compressed audio and piss it out in bursts when plugged into the mains
ozbot: The Creative Science Centre - by Dr Jonathan P. Hare
mircea_popescu: what is this ?! s.mpoe has 3x the per-share revenue of google ?!
nubbins`: "in about 70 seconds, we are voicing to the web" lel
mircea_popescu: "o look at that, the network is not working anymore"
nubbins`: the password is "media"
nubbins`: one commentator is talking about how the battery in his samsung phone dies really quick
nubbins`: so cbc's olympic webcasts have all the pre-broadcast chatter that gets cut for tv
mircea_popescu: twitter lost 1 dollar per share in the LAST QUARTER
mircea_popescu: let's see what other lulzy comparisons we can find. is twitter even listed ?
ThickAsThieves: <Duffer1> thickasthieves how's that cryptocurrency social network you signed up for? <<<< they never activated my account
mircea_popescu: facebook is trading 100x s.mpoe on 80% the revenue.
mircea_popescu: but a "social network" with nothing at all can not begin to stand up to the central bank of bitcoin. it's a contest between a bulldog and a cockroach.
mircea_popescu: because see, facebook existed back in the day when myspace was trading for 700mn
mircea_popescu: i doubt it. what will help is the passive effect of people hearing about s.mpoe and forgetting about facebook
mircea_popescu: i would say it is definitely not the revenue.
mircea_popescu: so basically facebook trades at 100x s.mpoe on 4x the revenue per share.
mircea_popescu: all the bitching about how difficult itis or it isn't to acquire btc is irrelevant. that's not where the hot core of btc is happening. this is.
mike_c: turn on the hft. more volume instantly.
mircea_popescu: in the end... this being exactly how greatness is built. by the time they do find that common ground... look out.
mircea_popescu: team A being "i don't care how good these internet funbux corps look" and team B going "unless i need money to buy rope i'm not selling my btc securities"
mircea_popescu: i guess the fundamental negotiation has tyre kickers and car collectors, and they have trouble finding common ground
mircea_popescu: so basically two good dividend months in a row for bbet killed the volume.
mircea_popescu: tell you what, ~8% of the mkt cap trading over ~7 months is just about exactly right.
mircea_popescu: s.dice was also outtrading s.mpoe for a while there
jborkl_: Heh you know its true, that is the sad part
jborkl_: Mtgox finished recapitalization today, good for another 6 months
mike_c: pankkake: it's because s.mpoe is so huge. s.bbet actually has a higher share turnover over the last 6 months than s.mpoe.
KRS1: I'll bet its on the unreleased videos
BingoBoingo: On account of that matter of his height or lack thereof
pankkake: latest Almost Human didn't mention Bitcoin. must be why the price is falling
copumpkin: that's a big MPOE sale there
mircea_popescu: the world's largest everything is everywhere!
pankkake: Trade with confidence on the world's largest Bitcoin exchange!
pankkake: is there a difference?
BingoBoingo: pankkake: or freedomfighers, security aware goatherders, or simply people looking into making a living in the IT industry
pankkake: must be terrorists. bitcoin, openbsd, arabic, the evidence is overwhelming
BingoBoingo: dub: Well, they expressed in the thread earlier a bit of suprised Darpa would have in the past supported OpenBSD
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The praise for you saving OpenBSD keeps coming, from yesterday http://www.linuxac.org/forum/threads/66918-%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B8%D9%85%D8%A9-OpenBSD-%D8%B3%D9%88%D9%81-%D8%AA%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%81%D9%82-%D8%B9%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84-%D8%A8%D8%B3%D8%A8%D8%A8-%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%82%D9%81-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B9%D9%85-%D9%84%D9%87%D8%A7?s=5a1d49a81cab27f2e6c5d567a9058475&p=521670&viewfull=1#post521670
dub: dont try to tell me otherwise internet peon or I'll ragepart
Duffer1: i played davy crockett in the school play hehe
ozbot: The Selfie Olympics - Imgur
mircea_popescu: no, some chick in there
Duffer1: man, i grew up on The ALAMO!@3 texas history books, and when i finally see it i can't help but think "that's it?"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's r3wt's deal. The questionable dude brought up yesterday.
bloctoc: I spent the year before last in San Antonio. I felt like the only white guy around for miles.
BingoBoingo: Looks like the Altcoin order book on the kinds shady exchange is starting to fill in https://openex.pw/index.php?page=trade&market=111
nubbins`: the usa is a very different country than canada
deadweasel: only the smart dedicated ones get through
deadweasel: because natural screening is the desert that lies between
nubbins`: all of them?
deadweasel: the best food
KRS1: deadweasel: Mexicans work at my house regularly, they are very hard working respectible and honest people. I admire them and they make great food.
mircea_popescu: lol the us w/o texas would be in a very interesting position
bloctoc: KRS1 there was some talk of succession when Obama was trying to get texas to help pay for the national electricity grid.
KRS1: he's got a beautiful estate near the ocean
KRS1: havent heard much of that talk lately about texas becoming a sovergn country..they seem big enough =D
deadweasel: then rise again!
deadweasel: Texas will rise again. then fall to Bitcoin.
KRS1: I was there for about a week..had to set up about 10 VMware hosts, firewall and storage. Went real smooth. I love how the girls talk there, and people seem real nice compared to South Florida.
KRS1: no..i visited my friend in Dallas and he showed me his hosting location there. His datacenter can switch him from any 1 of like 6 different carrier peering points at any time.
KRS1: Love that state..plus they have most major telco carrier lines converging in Dallas..makes for an Internet utobpia.
deadweasel: they so crazy
deadweasel: sometimes just chillin with them
deadweasel: used to bike/skate down there, sometimes running from drunken angry men of all colors
asciilifeform: the original 'geocaching.'
mircea_popescu: there definitely is some
dub: he got srsly butthurt about knowing more than everyone else on the internet cause he's been there and it wasnt cool
asciilifeform: likewise, most of the buried treasure probably remains buried.
asciilifeform: re: agents: i'd be surprised though, it there is entirely no more 'maintain this derelict shipping container and cafe that nobody goes to and you'll get a little cash in the mail every month'
mircea_popescu: dun tell me the guy got butthurt over... NUBBINS!
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mircea_popescu: the black spy yeah
asciilifeform: (the staples that failed to rust, was, afaik, a real incident)
asciilifeform: would surprise me greatly if they hadn't
mircea_popescu: like, on their own
asciilifeform: they dug up some boobietraps, made a little noise, that was all.
mircea_popescu: i tell you they figured it out
asciilifeform: a couple of runaways spilled the beans, yes
mircea_popescu: did they make a film about it or is it an obscure detail of history ?
mircea_popescu: it was abandoned tho, because iirc in the 70s someone in the us finally figured this out
asciilifeform: (the chapter concerned the recruitment of traitors in the west, rather than 'ninjas')
asciilifeform: life, far from other people, and is by profession a forester, fisherman, lighthouse-keeper, security guard or railwayman. In many cases such an agent will be a physical invalid. Spetsnaz is also on the lookout for women with roughly the same characteristics."
asciilifeform: ke this: a man of between fifty-five and sixty-five years of age who has never served in the army, never had access to secret documents, does not carry or own a weapon, knows nothing about hand-to-hand fighting, does not possess any secret equipment and doesn't support the Comunists, does not read the newspapers, was never in the Soviet Union and has never met any Soviet citizens, leads a lonely, introspective
asciilifeform: "If the reader had access to real dossiers on the secret agents of spetsnaz he would be disappointed and probably shocked, because the agents of spetsnaz bear no resemblance to the fine, upstanding, young and handsome heroes of spy films. Soviet military intelligence is looking for an entirely different type of person as a candidate for recruitment. A portrait of an ideal agent for spetsnaz emerges something li