benkay: the kind of idiots who don't know about cardanos to begin with.
benkay: defo gotta leave the us before doing that.
Bugpowder: the bottom is in!
Bugpowder: Did u see that options exercise is happening at the wrong price?
Bugpowder: I'm not a trader so... I don't really care about the next 3 months
ThickAsThieves: and then down?
ThickAsThieves: bugpowder, youre a buyer in the 500s?
asciilifeform: waitwhat - the fat man carries a sword?
kakobrekla: from the latest facebook update.
nubbins`: what's the haps?
FabianB_: that's more like the 7 days
Bugpowder: Interesting... MPEX options exercise is not executing at the bitcoincharts.com price.
ThickAsThieves: these elastic designs arent always practical for large monitors
ThickAsThieves: i didnt even see the chatbox heh
gribble: MtGox | A market order to sell 2000 bitcoins right now would net 443737.1817 USD and would take the last price down to 207.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 221.8686 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0645 seconds
gribble: (market sell [--usd] [--market <market>] <value>) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market sell order of <value> bitcoins. If <market> is provided, uses that exchange. Default is Bitstamp. If '--usd' option is given, <value> denotes the size of the order in USD.
gribble: (market sell [--usd] [--market <market>] <value>) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market sell order of <value> bitcoins. If <market> is provided, uses that exchange. Default is Bitstamp. If '--usd' option is given, <value> denotes the size of the order in USD.
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to sell 2000 bitcoins right now would net 1222350.0727 USD and would take the last price down to 603.4600 USD, resulting in an average price of 611.1750 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 170.4864 seconds
ThickAsThieves: i guess the kickstarter security leak data is being used to log into gox?
ThickAsThieves: i like the first comment
deadweasel: the grammar makes it seem like i'm eating slices of vietnamese waitresses. that was not the case.
chetty: in fairness there are also trolls that make you think - a lot of folks find that painful too
ThickAsThieves: another popular topic this morning, "how do i get cash into Gox quickly?"
ThickAsThieves: it's an imporrant development, learning trolls like to troll cuz theyre assholes
MisterE: and separately that the study is being talked about in many channels I'm in
MisterE: already had some text inthe input line
ThickAsThieves: "A new study by Erin Buckels and her colleagues at the University of Manitoba found that trolls' personalities are strongly linked to personality traits that form what some psychologists call the Dark Tetrad: sadism, narcissism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism."
ThickAsThieves: "Unfortunately, new research suggests that's not the case — trolls' personalities correlate highly with sadism. "
ThickAsThieves: i guess omeone has to play the losing end
ThickAsThieves: yknow it would be really sad if gox opened and their users were buying up cheap coins and thus benefited from it's idiocy
cads: I sanitize all the advertisements from my internet experience though, and get the large majority of my AV content from pirate channels
cads: kinda perverse, I know... I don't do this much... stuff like the superbowl, or when I'm chilling on the couch with friends watching something
cads: chetty: I mostly watch commericals, sound turned off, to study the visual rhetoric
cads: I've learned to stop caring and throw myself into the long tail without any exterior curator
cads: chetty: as if the second and third movies were not progressively worse scams, I am just hoping we don't see neo dodging... bad insurance quotes or something...
chetty: course it is, was there ever any doubt?
chetty: haha well I guess Romanain by choice would work - at least for the moment
cads: it's the classic romanian "you know theory but you don't know practice" attack "o ai cu teoria. Dar practica te omoare." classic because every romanian has heard it from every other romanian they know, in one situation or another.
cads: maybe I'll adress the mental forest thing, since I don't think you're entirely wrong, and I know it.
cads: two friends in the 'movement' got into a fight at a rally
mircea_popescu: ok so then, if it's not your experience, why is it your preoccupation ?
cads: the closes to that is some underground cryptoanarchist stuff and some occupy bullshit, nothing with a gun.. yet, neh?
cads: and you can stop with any further expounding of that line now.
mircea_popescu: that's the difference, i speak of things i know, you speak of things you dream and imagine. unflattering as that may sound.
mircea_popescu: i have been at the forefront of fucking revolutionary effort lol.
cads: hrm, is there no revolutionary effort you will have joined simply because you disagree with the way things are for a group of people you care about?
mircea_popescu: you're a clever guy, you know at least the basics of where statistics is meaningfully usable and where it isn't.
cads: mircea_popescu: because you're not sampled from the sample space of romanians. You're sampled from the sample space of humans. You need to be concerned about the average expected outcome of humans if only because that's essential to collaborative solutions to problems.
mircea_popescu: the derpage about "conditions" is a very weak excuse.
cads: but mostly that you think someone of your talent would get to the same place in life no matter what initial condition
mircea_popescu: why am i not an average romanian weighted down with the average viral meme load and nonsense belief romanias get ?
cads: the part that really gets me is not that you can't imagine yourself as an average black person, weighted down with the average viral meme load and nonsense beliefs about finance and law and white people and everyone being out to get you
mircea_popescu: what makes you think i coud have been born to a destitute mother that couldn't feed me properly ?
cads: born into the family that lived in bitter poverty and taught you to take everything you can from the dole?
cads: born into the family of a destitute mother that couldn't feed you properly the first few years of your life?
mircea_popescu: i'd have been pretty much the same born whenever and wherever.
cads: right, for the first thing you'd probably have been born in africa.
mircea_popescu: no, that's just the strawman you find convenient lol
mircea_popescu: maybe you're the one getting raep'd.
cads: that's the philosophy you want opressed kids to take
cads: mircea_popescu: if I ever rape you in an alley one day you will limp back home, paste your asshole back together with some dabs of superglue and then tell no one and seek no revenge.
Namworld: Had that in primary, living in the suburbs. Black kid in all white classroom. Had very few black people for the whole school.
mircea_popescu: well you may be inclined to review my record as the most slandered guy in the history of btc :)
mircea_popescu: i get it, everyone's special and dragons and the wrong gender and in the wrong time and insufficiently lottery winning.
mircea_popescu: but yes, it is up to whoever to live his life, as his life is, rather than derp about how it should be.
cads: so by your counsel, would it have been up to the slaves to accept the burden, and would it have been your advice simply improve morale till the situation changes or you're lynched.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't. it's up to them not to be.
mircea_popescu: just because people have meanwhile stopped giving a shit about you and your overall health and well being doesn't mean the people that used to care were wrong.
mircea_popescu: "the beatings will continue until morale improves."
mircea_popescu: they can't.
cads: that's the fucking point, you're acting like people can't fucking treat socially ackward people with some fucking respect
mircea_popescu: so other kids. socially awkward and sexually unconvincing.
cads: remember romania is the mexico of europe to americans.
cads: keep in mind I and my brothers grew up here with a crappy accent as the cabbage eating weird kids that got picked on for our religion and culture
mircea_popescu: me too, but i kinda enjoy the first set more.
cads: I do like to bait them :P
cads: people affected by it mostly don't understand how it affects them
mircea_popescu: my experience with racism is that it's usually the problem of the people concerned with it.
cads: and lead them around by nose rings
cads: one can take the latter group as chumps
cads: you're saying racist sentiment from white californians simply won't use the word 'nigger'
cads: there are a couple slurs in there like gook that are distributed in ways that seem completely arbitrary
cads: ie, LA has little proportion of the twitter bandwidth dedicated to "nigger"
cads: and it drops off dramatically in the west, even for populated centers
cads: the hate is /outside/ where blacks live
cads: hopefully they blinded the kids enough to the geographic location that at least the overall shape is right
mircea_popescu: cads how would you trust the negative sentiment detection ?
mircea_popescu: fascinating : exactly the areas where black people live.
cads: that lets you see the geography of all sorts of slurs
cads: lemme find the actual interactive map
cads: the data was normalized according to total twitter traffic
cads: wanna see a heat map of the geotagged tweets in the US using the word "nigger" in a negative sentiment?
Namworld: Yes, guess it depends on the area.
Namworld: Yet it doesn't seem like there's much difference between US and Canada to me in the culture.
Namworld: In Canada, people don't seem to care about immigrants. They all mix like it doesn't matter. I overheard someone at my old job say how he liked it so much more here than in the US because people weren't looking at him and less discrimination or something.
cads: "The game is essentially an abstract synthesis of all arts and sciences. It proceeds by players making deep connections between seemingly unrelated topics."
mircea_popescu: "Once upon a time, there was an enchanted prince, who ruled the land beyond the wobbles. One day, he discovered a spot on his face. Foolishly, he ignored it...and three years later, he died of cancer. The spot, however, flourished, and soon set out to seek its fortune."
cads: and who doesn't love corrupting the innocent?
cads: those three lines I posted were from the slate article
mircea_popescu: you sound like the something awful crowd.
mircea_popescu: "hi r retarded" "hi i am 12 and where does dildo go ?" "sanity" and "other"
cads: I like to troll people in forums or the comments section of websites.
cads: I have sent people to shock websites for the lulz.
mircea_popescu: debating issues that are important to you, chatting with others, making new friends, trolling others, and other.
mircea_popescu: <cads> so while some trolls may have hiden themselves the real blatant ones decided "fuck, lets troll this test" << what the fuck does slate know.
jurov: since when the sadists must pay?
cads: trolls will be ejected from the dialog space soon.
cads: if you're a sadist you need to pay for your entertainment like the rest us
cads: so while some trolls may have hiden themselves the real blatant ones decided "fuck, lets troll this test"
cads: blah the article blatantly ignores the self reporting bias in requiring trolls to identify as trolls
cads: heck, I have all of the dark tetrad
cazalla: that'll depend on bitcoin over the years to come
mircea_popescu: what's the point of having gentlemen's rooms in australia ?
cazalla: "don't touch them" "they are too sensitive" "no i'm still sore from pregnancy for sex" "i'm tired" etc etc
cazalla: anyone who runs to the defense of unnamed blacks and supposed rape victims is suspect to me
cads: The... horror.
mircea_popescu: and decide they really need new friends.
cads: make sure you get the first impression
cazalla: and baby monitor is good excuse to listen to all conversation going on in the loungeroom anyway
cads: there's that, neh :P
mircea_popescu: maybe scribble a Why So Srs on the back of the sign just in case you run into people you know.
mircea_popescu: i'd expect he appreciates the prime trollage.
cads: cazalla: the thing about that is that is that's really some fuckshit, that's like having a gay friend over for a barbeque on saturday and secretly picketing with "GOD HATES FAGS" signs in sunday
mircea_popescu: most dudes there are you know, boring derps.
mircea_popescu: the only sane conclusion is that you've paid about 100x too much attention to this race thing.
cazalla: i'd happily chant for the random black person to be shot, shout obscentities and then invite the black neighbour over for a bbq same day
mircea_popescu: i get in a bus, i sit with the black people, white people are all giving me wtf is this ?!?! looks
cads: we're not particularly mean to each other even when we're insulting :D
cazalla: if i get to know them on a 1 to 1 level, that's OK
cads: we'll argue for the joy of arguing
cazalla: i don't like foreigners coming into my country and upsetting the WASP ratio
mircea_popescu: hence my comment, re "they can and they do, provided they have a safe environment in which to enjoy it"
cads: chetty: I later realized that the women are also physically threatened and harmed/killed during rape
chetty: rape has nothing to do with sex - you confuse the issues
cazalla: but that doesn't bother me
cads: you think that if a black person is walking 40 feet behind me on a sidewalk, or if a white person is walking 40 feet behind me on a sidewalk, I don't prefer to be in the latter situation?
cazalla: btw cads, i'm fine with black people i have an acquataince with, it's the ones i don't that i'm suspect of, more so than whites i don't know
mircea_popescu: they're a little touched.
mircea_popescu: in that you know... the guy was trying to shoot it up her ?
cads: lesson is that women just need to start shooting their rapists
mircea_popescu: and so the jew got angry and shot him/
mircea_popescu: and the nigger went "dude it smelled good! if you didn't want me to eat it
mircea_popescu: the jew went "omg wtf you ate my pie for!"
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i hear that's why the trezor kid got shot.
cazalla: if you grant permission but it's rape, surely you are not the owner
cads: add a transaction to the mix and you have a pimp
mircea_popescu: that'd be a sight, rapist obtaining prior permission from the male owner of the slut.
cazalla: it's like women who dress slutty and cry rape, you can't step into a lions cage and then complain he ate you
cads: cazalla: that's not making a point, that's the standard argument
mircea_popescu: well then you see my point.
mircea_popescu: a particular facility to being taken advantage by the government is no particular qualification of maturity.
cazalla: cads my point is this, a bunch of black teens driving around in an 82 corolla (thinking it's a 64 impala) blasting some rap music is going to attract the wrong type of attention, white man was stupid to react to it but this is how the world works
mircea_popescu: kids that grow up on the streets are adults at 12.
cads: because they still think like fucking kids
mircea_popescu: you know a black idiot being punished for being an idiot isn't therefore being punished for being black.
cads: these are children we're talking about.
cazalla: why are you not up in arms about the countless nigras being shot up by other nigras, why are you so focused on zimmerman? because he is portrayed as white and it's in the media? i think that's the only reason
cads: I mean ideally both idiots would be punished - one is already dead, and the other needs to get his. Not for some moral reason. Only to deter further idiots.
cazalla: why are you so invested when 2 idiots find themselves in a situation no sensible person would, where 1 of them will die
cazalla: it's a cheap thrill, i don't really care tbh, it occurs far away from me with people of which there are very few where i reside
ozbot: The Letter Third pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
cads: it's their drea
cads: they CAN'T WAIT to put a slug in a nigger
cads: they want to be like zimmerman
cads: the worst part about these cases is when you see these men become heros to these lowbrow whitefuk rednecks here stateside
cads: so we have racists in the channel?
cazalla: which is why i have little sympathy for shot up black hoodlums, they do a good enough job of killing each other than we don't even need to string them up these days
Namworld: I'm not in the US and I've heard about it.
Namworld: I mean zimmerman case was probably too covered vs other cases.
cazalla: it's too late to complain your loud music draws attention after the fact
cads: if white kids annoyed people and some black dude did the deed what would happen
cads: cazalla: but listen to yourself blithely say "well maybe they shouldn't annoy people", juxtaposed with the fact that a child was slaughtered.
cazalla: there is nothing more rude than someone who plays their music within earshot of others and is oblivious to just how poor their taste is
benkay: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: odds on the satoshi hoard moving to an unspendable address?
cads: and hide it from the cops
cads: the least I can do for him is take his tool
cazalla: not that i care for zimmerman but given the media made it a black vs white issue and that black on white violence is the real issue, i can't help but smile to see him 6 foot under
benkay: banged the client *out*
benkay: i kinda begin to see why satoshi banged the client like he did
cazalla: cads: he came from a broken home, was wandering the streets at night, dealing drugs, it was only a matter of time until it happened
cads: in the zimmerman trial you saw juxtapositions of zimmerman looking all wellkempt next to trayvon looking like a thug on one media source
cads: fuck yourself cazalla of course they
cazalla: cads: you mean where they take a mugshot, which is likely the white mans worst day alive juxaposed with the nigras best day?
cads: Namworld: what you mean you're in the US?
cads: slimy looking redneck fuck if there was one...
cads: this is a case for a shooting that happening in florida while the zimmerman trial/circus was going on
cads: but they hang and a mistrial is declared
cads: but cannot come to a decision on the first degree murder charge against kid
cads: at trial the man's defense is that the kid menaced him with a gun. No gun is found at the scene and the defense argues that it is the state's burden to prove the gun was there.
cads: drunk white redneck at an intersection next to a car full of black teenagers playing their music loud. Man starts arguing with the kids about the music, gets out of car. Argument ensues, man takes out gun an fires into the car. one kid is dead, the others uninjured.
benkay: never put into the blockchain that which you can handle on your own machines.
mircea_popescu: the trilema credits system seems quite sufficient really.
cads: I dare not claim the credits of any valued readers
cads: "receivers could cash in their bonds to signal to the sender that a given communication was a waste of their time or elect not to cash them in to signal that more communication would be welcome."
cads: "[..]"attention bonds," small warranties that some information will not be a waste of the recipient's time placed into escrow at the time of sending[..]"
cazalla: at least they are against mudslimes
cads: hey, has anyone studied Kolmogorov's classic "Foundations of Probability Theory"?
cads: one does not belong: http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/femen040413/s_f30_65431623.jpg
cads: A man kicks a topless Femen activist, as she raises her fist to protest against Islamists in front of the Great Mosque of Paris
cads: this officer looks like he's seen some shit and this takes the cake 15
ozbot: Femen Stages a 'Topless Jihad' - In Focus - The Atlantic
cads: it might be self selection bias but I notice none of these topless warriors are ugly - they're mostly slim and perky
cads: I like the original interpretation
cads: Truth: "A man kicks a topless Femen activist, as she raises her fist to protest against Islamists in front of the Great Mosque of Paris"
cads: hell yea! it looks like this girl just uppercutted the fuck out of this old man
mircea_popescu: cads that guy looks like the vagina dentata bit his finger.