nubbins`: Mats_cd03: oh, you might be onto something there
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mircea_popescu: which atc ? the atc you never said you wanted ?
benkay: if the tools are free, why develop competence when everyone else you know hacking on them is just as incompetent as yourself?
nubbins`: pankkake, that's the problem
benkay: nubbins`: that's precisely the problem. when people can't be arsed to figure out how to get their tools to make money, they don't arse themselves to grok the tools either.
mircea_popescu: it's not going to end. italians are willing to spend your money or starve. either way.
pankkake: well most of the "dubstep" I like is closer to drum and bass. still…
nubbins`: altho i suspect the "free" vs "$10k+" thing is a deciding factor when choosing softsynths over modulars too
mircea_popescu: then hitler took over,
mircea_popescu: italy has never, ever, at any poiint in its history, been able to pay the bills.
nubbins`: you have a point, they're doing it all with softsynths
benkay: "why are these tools so hard bawwww"
nubbins`: dubstep is essentially "i bought a bunch of Moog modules and can't be fucked to learn how to use any of them"
nubbins`: and tweak the cutoff & peak knobs so it goes WOM WOM
pankkake: dubsteb isn't all bad. just ignore the mainstream
mircea_popescu: nubbins` dun worry, he knows i only do it to bother him
mircea_popescu: hm, maybe that's what it is, the curb thing is funny for people who don't have access to surveillance cams,
mircea_popescu: and he's also from there.
mircea_popescu: jesus, herbi is the proximate cause for me trying to rewatch that crud, cause he also claimed it's better than seinfeld.
benkay: and i mean the actual fucking bound volumes.
mircea_popescu: "i know! let's give a bunch of clueless twits the unwarranted, indefensible idea that what they know and think is universal, and then let's have them write it all out.
mircea_popescu: "The term can carry a moral judgement and is viewed in the context of a mainstream social ideal for sexual activity to occur within exclusive committed relationships."
benkay: not terribly, it's the local btc irc channel
mircea_popescu: like for instance the mtgox thing ? totally impredictable and shocking for a few people.
ThickAsThieves: it's the Altcoin of comedy shows
benkay: maybe the joke is on me expecting comedy
ThickAsThieves: or like how they use almost famous actors as cameo villians
mircea_popescu: you don't realise this on the first pass, watching it or w/e, but just try as a cw exercise to improve on them.
mircea_popescu: they really polished those scripts.
ThickAsThieves: saying she's dead wouldnt be as funny either
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mircea_popescu: it's from the shrimpstore seinfeld episode.
mircea_popescu: (the cannonical is, "his wife has cancer")
benkay: get with the 2004 mang
benkay: oh yeah also while we're on the topic your discus implementation is fucking horrendous too
ThickAsThieves: mp the Like button and +1 button are missing from trilema
Mats_cd03: the garbage wine he drinks is more than that
Mats_cd03: well i expected him to know the shit gift i bought him was shit
mircea_popescu: so therefore your odds of giving him something he doesn't think is shit are... <0.0001% ?
mircea_popescu: putting your friend in the awkward position of having been vicariously scammed doesn't seem like much of a gift
benkay: the upper end of skill experience and what have ye isn't but that's a vanishingly small slice.
asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: ww2 jp. swords suck (the issued ones, not the familial relics some of the nobles carried)
mircea_popescu: yeah they actually put a lot of effort into getting it right for some reason.
mircea_popescu: o it's the old soviet translation isn't it.
benkay: anyways that kind of property is kind of unique and so therefore probably worth in excess of 5k
Mats_cd03: although the replica didnt kill hundreds of chinese so i guess its inferior tbh
Mats_cd03: found a replica that was better than the real thing on ebay for $200
benkay: you're responsible for the distractions roaming around
Mats_cd03: can i have the sword
pankkake: if only your posts weren't that long, I would read them sooner
mircea_popescu: cads what i want to know is when the fuck did romanian and cabbage get identified. what, cause cluj cabbage ?
mircea_popescu: the 2nd part is not about the sultan (which is duly forgotten), but about how pissed off the author is with the current environment
asciilifeform: where the sultan meets his fate.
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mircea_popescu: ;;google trilema the letter third
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mircea_popescu: imagine if he's from the hillbilly country and his parents are Form and Mindy
benkay: american english teachers know neither english nor how to teach.
mircea_popescu: sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, you know.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` not for you, for the viewers.
nubbins`: make no mistake, i do not operate under the assumption that i can draw
nubbins`: what ARE they thinking
mircea_popescu: "what are these people thinking"
nubbins`: always expecting "how about this?" to be met with "the fuck is your problem, asshole?"
nubbins`: shit, maybe he's upset about the shirts.
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nubbins`: sorry, n/m, the hipster is not smiling
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: well you'll be happy to know that the band lapped up my snorting-coffee-grounds image:
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform could this be merged into the yarvin thing ?
asciilifeform: "We are still at idea stage. Weve built a few simulations to test some parts of the system, but the main development hasnt begun. We have published our whitepaper, which explains.."
nubbins`: there's a reason why i asked pascale to draw those heraldics and not me ;p
mircea_popescu: because the metrosexuals may fall in love ?
bo0lcrap: because they dont have windows!
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: shh, don't tell the clients
kakobrekla: id still double check on the womans thing.
nubbins`: can't very well do it on the loud
mircea_popescu: people reading my blogz and drilling my womenz ON THE QUIET
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you've been fucking my womenz on the quiet ?!
nubbins`: me forgets the /
pankkake: that's what is wrong with the internet
mircea_popescu: Many things actually. First of all, it is important to remember that the internet didnt just come to be in its current form.
mircea_popescu: 2. Whats wrong with the current internet?
ThickAsThieves: i find other races hot too
mircea_popescu: and i imagined it's prolly the same for everyone.
mircea_popescu: i don't much like other race womenz. i mean creoles can be insanely hot, but otherwise, black, yellow, eskimo, w/e, they're all ugly.
ThickAsThieves: i wouldnt know, the only time i had a chance with a black girl i wasnt single
mircea_popescu: <benkay> being a stick figure is disappointing though << talk to the cook.
asciilifeform: mitnick, the fellow who was kept in solitary because judge declared 'will start ww3 by whistling' ?
ThickAsThieves: the correct quote was "Drink this Michael. Become one of us"
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: you could hit someone on the head if you could remember who you wanted to hit << epic.
asciilifeform: old man: 'drown him, father, drown, drown.'
asciilifeform: son: 'whatdoyamean i gotta dip them'
asciilifeform: they pass an old man who says, 'don't drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won't have to do any work but to dip them'
nubbins`: house arrest is usually on the honor system here
asciilifeform: some time in medieval times, a father is leading his useless-mouth son to be drowned
asciilifeform: the post-release one probably reads 'obedient peon' ?
nubbins`: the scrabble blank feeler takes an extra long time getting his tiles.
nubbins`: and players often put the tiles in a bag
mircea_popescu: nubbins, the necessary cog
ThickAsThieves: take the atc nubs
ThickAsThieves: maybe they release some coins for vocal customers
mod6: then a wave of everyone pelting magicaltwit with flaming bags of dog shit
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, are chemtrails the result of quadriplegic women on chemo moving about the hospital ?
ThickAsThieves: i'm going with "btc withdrawals are now partially open, so we can monitor the situation
mircea_popescu: you know the girls do most of the sliming. which is kind of weird seeing how the boys get most of the hurt if they didn't.
ThickAsThieves: girlslime, pretty sure thatd make the politically incorrect list
mircea_popescu: whoa i beat someone at the quick typing game once.
benkay: the inconvenience of girlslime!?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` ok, let's try as an abstract : there's an awful chasm \between the people who want to cum and the people who are willing to operate under the inconvenience of actually getting all that girlslime all over their cock.
mircea_popescu: benkay no. i only read the parts that i can use (twice). the rest i don't read at all :D
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, there comes a point where you have to turn it into an abstract
benkay: mircea_popescu: did you see the part where i said "although..." trailing off while pondering the work/payoff function?
mircea_popescu: there is an awful chasm between people who want encryption and people who are willing to operate under the inconvenience of actual security. << into the permanent records of bitcoin-assets this goes.
mircea_popescu: that's exactly equal to saying cca 2009 "well if some bitcoins appear on my harddrives i'll be glad. i'm not abouit to run bs code on my computer which i need for trying to strip naked the sims"
mircea_popescu: benkay:if the opportunity presents itself i'd be happy to. i'm not about to cold-call all the international law firms in dc, though. <<< because why ?
mircea_popescu: that's why startups have advantages in the mktplace.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: benkay: what kind of idiot would buy at 1000x? << the kind of idiot that expects service, which maximally extended is the kind of idiot who only deals with people in his wot. so basically, any serious businessman.
mod6: are they ready to order?
mircea_popescu: benkay:sell everyone cardanos at 1000x markup. << i think you're the fifth guy planning to do basically that.
mircea_popescu: FabianB no it's the last quoted.
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mircea_popescu: "Enky makes good posts" << is this the guy that bought t credits and rated me for it >?
assbot: Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
nubbins`: but those two things so rarely go together
mircea_popescu: they're both sushi.
mircea_popescu: especially... what i want to know is what he did to the weasel.
nubbins`: we will, yes, sure. but i'm talking about whether we won't
ThickAsThieves: we won't remember being alive either
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves, on the bright side, we won't remember being asleep
nubbins`: or a simulation to see what shade of yellow the eggs in your cake were, etc
nubbins`: might as well do a simulation of a pile of rotten mush to see what shape the banana was
nubbins`: is a sim gonna show you what those two galaxies looked like before they crashed?
KRS-One: right but if we can model the universe somewhat and reverse time..
mircea_popescu: might as well try to determine where on your body is the place where your mom got laid.
nubbins`: well, what's your frame of reference for locating the singularity?
KRS-One: if everything came from the singularity wouldnt there be that specific point in some kind of reference to us?
asciilifeform: likewise p != np because the kid playing sim-verse has a finite budget too...
KRS-One: wonder if anyone has tried to pinpoint the location in the universe to the precise location where the big bang occurred, taking into account skew or any offset
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mircea_popescu: ;;later tell cads actualy, it is not, not that i don't appreciate your culture on the topic. the difference is subtly this : that what you propose is geared towards the present and the future, a matter of action, whereas what i was discussing was strictly as to the past and a matter of representation.
nubbins`: Mathematical knowledge is unlike any other knowledge. Its truths are objective, necessary and timeless.
KRS-One: or it can at least be modelled mathematically
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nubbins`: http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/02/16/197236/mathematician-is-our-universe-a-simulation
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i dunno if you've noticed this, but the logs are pretty much taylored for my convenience. if i'm up, an hour stretches over like 300 lines. yet the ten hours im asleep look in the log like an hour and a half.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, i've been inducted into the ranks of pmb/rubecoin pushers
benkay: yeah so let the scammers alone
benkay: make the babes happy
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is it weigh, 50 lbs ?
benkay: or alternatively accept that 99.99999 of people are going to get fucked their whole lives, throw up hands and not give fucks.
benkay: that makes like nobody that should be 'allowed' to play with these dangerous toys
mircea_popescu: whoa it can handle the recoil ?
mircea_popescu: ripped off by the wrong people, even!
benkay: but there's 0.01% of people that are smart
benkay: i suppose this is why normal humans aren't allowed to buy fancy paper in the us
nubbins`: no argument there
benkay: that's your play with the coins, certainly.
nubbins`: yeah, it was essentially offering the same returns as that
nubbins`: sure, but it was somehow tied into another pmb
nubbins`: anyway, all the info on f.pure.synth seems to be gone
benkay: whether it's fancy paper with imaginary value now, or metal stamped paper with imaginary value in the future.
nubbins`: just offered at a better rate than other similar scams
benkay: face it man we're all just dancing around trying to fuck each other
nubbins`: numismatic collectors think "hey, this will be worth more money in the future" and sellers say "maybe, dunno"
nubbins`: pmb purchasers think "hey, mining = win" and the sellers say "assuming diff doesn't change..."
nubbins`: benkay, there's moral high ground in here?
nubbins`: "assuming network difficulty stays the same..."
benkay: nubbins` you just lost the moral high ground.
nubbins`: no they don't
nubbins`: well don't tell that to the guy who paid 6btc for one loaded with 0.5btc
kakobrekla: any they are _all_ useless pretty much
nubbins`: Mats_cd03, there are a variety of denominations, from 0.1btc to 1000btc
kakobrekla: mp would argue with the bike thing.
nubbins`: what the fuck is 3d printing
benkay: he's also a filthy pothead
kakobrekla: except for the mac thing.
nubbins`: Mats_cd03: what's worse than people who like things? people who don't think you should like the things you like
kakobrekla: you could hit someone on the head if you could remember who you wanted to hit
nubbins`: kakobrekla, the lel is that those bongs cost several hundred dollars apiece
nubbins`: inventor ragequit the coffeegeek forums after a months-long argument about whether it's "espresso" or not :D
nubbins`: the aeropress actually makes an "espresso-like concentrate", that you then top up with hot water
nubbins`: compensates for the 30 second brew time
nubbins`: fair warning, they suggest you use a large number of beans per cup
KRS-One: they are cheap
nubbins`: and although you could probably throw it at a brick wall without breaking, that's probably not enough to justify the cost
KRS-One: what do they have against glass and stainless steel?
nubbins`: as long as you don't store the aeropress with the plunger compressed, it should last forever
nubbins`: (BPA) or any phthalates, chemicals that have been in the news lately because of possible health effects."
nubbins`: "The AeroPress is made of three different plastics. The clear chamber and plunger are made of copolyester. The hard black filter cap, filter holder, funnel, and stirrer are made of polypropylene. The rubber like seal on the end of the plunger is made of a thermoplastic elastomer. All of these materials are FDA approved for use in contact with food. None of these materials contain bisphenol-A
benkay: the clever's seal blows out after about 3 years of constant use
nubbins`: anyway, copolyester is what the aeropress is made of
KRS-One: whoever is in charge of plastic can shove them all up his ass.
benkay: but hiding from them all in fear is a pretty safe approach.
benkay: hey KRS-One there are a bunch of different kinds of plastics
nubbins`: guy who invented the aerobie made it
benkay: nubbins`: what i love about the clever is that it combines the extraction time of the french press with the filtering of the pour over
nubbins`: benkay: haven't tried the clever, but i do enjoy a good pour-over
Mats_cd03: lol 'the satoshi letters'
benkay: but subject of coffee, y'all ever fuck with the clever brewer?
nubbins`: the satoshi letters?
asciilifeform: the 'good cop bad cop' algorithm is as old as mankind.
benkay: there is an awful chasm between people who want encryption and people who are willing to operate under the inconvenience of actual security.
asciilifeform: on the other hand, witness all the lost souls salivating over 'silent circle' and related crap.
asciilifeform: the clever ones will be very suspicious of anything presented as a pill against usg.
benkay: so the flipside of the additiction to 'standards-compliant' is that now some people in big cushy chairs are finally getting the idea that their standards are just a backdoor for the us of a.
benkay: if the opportunity presents itself i'd be happy to. i'm not about to cold-call all the international law firms in dc, though.
asciilifeform: the folks you're talking about might be a hard sell. they'd need to be talked out of their addiction to 'standards-compliant' (read: u.s.-diddled) turdware.
benkay: besides they get to mark up the time spent fucking around with encryption to their clients - it's a win win win win win!
benkay: there are fifty people over there - and only one with a checkbook and the brains to recognize a solution that needs implementing, frequently attended by much organizational resistance to doing anything.
benkay: this is the enterprise sales problem.
asciilifeform: one problem with this scheme is, as far as i can see, in order to want a cardano in the first place one needs a modicum of brains.
benkay: asciilifeform: the cardanos come free with the implementation package for your two organizations.