mircea_popescu: kakobrekla because it matches other numbers
mircea_popescu: that is actually the most suspicious thing from all you've dug up so far.
mike_c: more JD stats you are all dying to know: ROI on money invested last July and left alone since then: 14.5%
mircea_popescu: "the whites took it"
mircea_popescu: the next day "clearly, you misunderstood something"
mircea_popescu: quoth birladeanu "here's in the soviet archives lenin recorded speaking of it"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform romania sent about a billion trillion tons of gold and shit back when russia was run by the tsar (and close ally / relative of the romanian king)
asciilifeform: (not like they could've brought it back)
mircea_popescu: i wonder if germany is/will be told "fu, we're keeping the gold cause ww1"
mircea_popescu: that'd be roughly 30 to 50 or so thousand tons of gold, at the time
mircea_popescu: basically the bolsheviks won anyway.
mircea_popescu: well, that's the problem with ww1, for the first time in history governments became a majority of the gdp,
mircea_popescu: the entire thing ended in the 30s as perhaps the first major fiasco of the government-owned financial system.
mircea_popescu: this was being repaid after the war, principally from german reparations, which principally consisted of us loans to germany.
mircea_popescu: as in, all through the war the british were sucking captial out of the us, first in the form of cashing out their massive investments, then in the shape of borrowing.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, how many people know of the war debt carusel in the context of the 1929 crisis ?
mircea_popescu: or that they may contraband unapproved earrings in them, much to the anger and envy of all the other bored womenz ?
mircea_popescu: do you suppose the concern was they may enjoy them through both ends of the digestive canal
asciilifeform: well, noted specifically that they were permitted through the gate only upon slicing.
asciilifeform: in an account of turkish concubines, a venetian envoy noted that cucumbers were served to them pre-sliced...
mircea_popescu: clearly there's no cock involved in this entire thing at any juncture.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck would want two concubines dressed in exactly the same cut out of slightly different colored material but otherwise same textile,
mircea_popescu: and from the same period : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/《玫贵妃春贵人行乐图》.jpg
asciilifeform: then, pictures.
mircea_popescu: there's only so much occupy bs the girls can put up with before eviscerating the doofus troop with their bare hands.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but as you observed, the age of the impotent. whose doings perhaps will not make for good pictures.
mircea_popescu: or with breaking up the rain pattern
asciilifeform: but rather the glass bead game pushed by half-educated fans of norbert wiener & co. at the time.
asciilifeform: incidentally, few modern armchair generals seem to know that the forbidden 'cybernetics' had nothing to do with the construction of calculating machines
mircea_popescu: if i may be pardoned the pun
asciilifeform: 'when we clean out his starfish, quickly he'll remember how he undermined soviet power and the party in his research institute with his cybernetics, this scoundrel...'
mircea_popescu: http://www.freebook.com.br/Imagens/produtos/28/9780955006128/9780955006128_Detalhes1.jpg < wtf is the fucking thinking here.
mircea_popescu: ie, not like they're visiting.
mircea_popescu: tho the people look comfortable
asciilifeform: cleanup left for them.
mircea_popescu: completely contradicts all notions of ritual purity. they'd have cut his head outside and behind
asciilifeform: the most mortal sin was, as one might expect, snitching, followed by welching on debts.
asciilifeform: the man i quoted re: the meatgrinder was employed as a detective embedded in a prison, in what was then leningrad. he had an interesting take: much of what the rubes think of as 'the cruelty' was simply administration of justice among the convicts
mircea_popescu: if you had the option of running on a stairmaster or turning the meat grinder, what'd you take ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re the meatgrinder thing ; it's well documented that people doing time get bored.
asciilifeform: by some accounts, the old traditions have died, and the days when a man would be severely punished for an 'unearned' tattoo are gone.
punkman: I got a couple books with tattoos, these russian books seem like a good addition
asciilifeform: anyone interested in this subject can find all the reading material he wishes.
asciilifeform: ex. of the latter: a devil stoking a furnace (drawn around actual arse, it being the furnace)
asciilifeform: historians divide the tats into two basic types, 'voluntary' and 'forcible.'
mircea_popescu: punkman there's some ethnic and geographic variation to it.
mircea_popescu: "many english girls will have their cute recidivist tattoos fed to them should they ever end up in kresty
asciilifeform: russian blogger, circa '04: 'have you ever beaten a man? had you done so, you would know that it is hard work. no less arduous than turning a meat-grinder. how often do you wake up to the urge to crank a meat-grinder? every day?'
asciilifeform: many arguments were against the 'political' slant of the book, rather than the facts. 'some english chick is sitting on a rat pot right now, but where's the book, hah.'
asciilifeform: no serious objection on my part, just that the author has a reputation as a teller of embellished tales.
mircea_popescu: the objection being that such a diverse collection of items could not be found in the same one cellar ?
Apocalyptic: for anyone interested the ATC ticker is up @ https://www.x-bt.com/api/atcbtc/get_ticker
mircea_popescu: when it's a case of "got five hours to get as many men on the boat as you can, and whoever's left gets to meet herr drakula"... trauma starts looking like cake.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually, the allies used that principle in places during the dunkirk rescue.
mircea_popescu: врагов enemies rather than devils
mircea_popescu: many folks = the anthropologically challenged.
asciilifeform: the compendium is now a best-seller.
asciilifeform: baldaev got quite a lot of shit for these, many folks insisted that he simply drew his fantasies (during his employment as a prison guard)
asciilifeform: h 'flute', a rolled up tube for the ease of entry of ants. to the legs would be tied a 'spreader stick.' often the executioners were helped by female 'vor' ['thief-in-law'] inmates.'
asciilifeform: 'some demented people in gulag during the years of the cult, for their amusement, would select women from the contigent of 'enemies of the people' and for 'some sin' sit them down upon anthills.' bottom: 'young women who refused to become lovers of their executioners in gulag would be sat upon anthills, tied to trees, 'for the mosquitoes and ants.' sometimes a pipe would be inserted, made from a reed or a birc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's the caption say ? my russian is too sucky.
mircea_popescu: atm trying to discern if indeed the left side girl in the earlier pic is or only resembles.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the old "each table has a sucker or it wouldn't be a table. if you don't know who then well..." into a "each escape has its bullocks, and upon the eating of the first one you'll know whether you count with him by whether you're invited to dine."
mircea_popescu: mat stands, of course, for may. rather than cunt.
asciilifeform: never know who the bullock is until, well, bullock time
mircea_popescu: more interesting, how many troops of bullocks successfully took over the escape and ate the smartasses.
asciilifeform: 'convicts, during escapes from far nothern camps of gulag lured with them (due to the impossibility of gathering adequate provisions while imprisoned) other inmates, who would be killed en route. such victims of cannibalism were known in convict argot as 'bullocks.' how many 'bullocks' were eaten up, is unknown.'
asciilifeform: 'the slaying by a convict of a 'bullock' during an escape from camp.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re the women specifically, is that nonsense a mainstream representation afayk ?
asciilifeform: 'i am an english, french, american, japanese, italian, german, and some other kind of spy...'
mircea_popescu: look at that, the maddona-whore complex, in russian.
asciilifeform: if anybody has a warez copy of the whole 130+ set, drop it here.
mircea_popescu: mebbe i should check out this thing then
mircea_popescu: while i slept i dreamt about these two womenz having an argument which ended by leaving the other tied to a tree in the wild somewhere with her rectum stretch-filled with fresh mud.
asciilifeform: i suggest 'teflon' for the case at hand.
asciilifeform: (unfortunately lack the 'citation needed' here)
asciilifeform: imho gilged stake is too good for these folks.
mircea_popescu: what drakula'd do to the so called "programmers' doing this is left as an exercise to the current voievodes.
mike_c: it just doesn't take that much capital to scale to 100k. one good engineer is sufficient given the timeframe.
mircea_popescu: mike_c> (which they had) << this is arguyable. the thing run in the red for most of its lifetime, and in a dubious field. they always had trouble finding investors, and the investors they did find were mostly of the imbecile sort. if you want i can dig up the trilema discussion re investors and why they suck, but you'll end up with more shit to translate as a result.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> or ten others. << ten are better than one. like phone numbers.
mircea_popescu: cads> or has it just fallen into second place << the "it may continue in 2nd place" was april 2013.
asciilifeform: this is a box devoted to running the 'current' branch.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually that'd be duke, dux in the latin space.
mircea_popescu: whether this is like the set who still believes the ufos have landed or moreover like the set that does government's banking is hard to say
mircea_popescu: mike_c there's always been (since inception) a set of people who believed it is thus exploitable.
mircea_popescu: A bug in Google's Chrome web browser enables malicious websites to activate your microphone and spy on conversations that happen next to your computer, even after you've left the website.
asciilifeform: the other crap aside, a service where you do not get to take btc 'home' at the end of the day ought not to be called a btc exchange.
copumpkin: no, as opposed to buy your own coins and sit on them
jurov: nto even tourists can use ATMs there last time i heard
asciilifeform: and then 'you can also have problems.'
asciilifeform: i think the implication might have been that 100k users turns you into a 'person of interest' for the vultures
mike_c: well, they had monetary resources. not talent resources.
mike_c: jurov, 0 -> 100k in a few years isn't that hard with appropriate resources (which they had)
asciilifeform: hence the question of whether an honest btc/fiat exchange is possible even in principle, without the cooperation of a sovereign.
asciilifeform: when you get 100,000 users, does satan appear before you and command you to 'take the exchange fractional' ?
mike_c: well, it died from incompetence. herds of chumps is the only reason we are talking about them.
asciilifeform: i'll extend mp's thesis and conjecture that it died from, rather than in spite, of, the mountain of free advertising in u.s. mouthpiece media 'mtgox, the largest exchange, today, ... etc'
jurov: you think anyone here will admit it has something there?
deadweasel: the dodo told everyone it could fly, when in fact it had never even sold a magic card...
asciilifeform: or ten others.
asciilifeform: one chump magnet dies, another takes its place.
mike_c: i think we all do in the same way we had an interest in SR failing. good for btc.
cads: this is like a full speed freight train that's been magically teleported 2 miles up into the sky
cads: Where from? They were pretty good.
asciilifeform: that's like welding a torn hair back together. sure, it's possible...
mike_c: you can edit-and-continue with some c++ debuggers. it even works 30% of the time.
mike_c: i'm not going to look at that code anymore because I will have to renege on everything i said the other day and agree that a new reference build is high priority.
asciilifeform: only got dumps for the last 2 times,
mike_c: without having a repo, it doesn't seem hard to crash this if a null node gets in the node vector.
asciilifeform: probably naturally-occurring crash, given as the canary coin that lives on that box is still present.
asciilifeform: in the reference client.
asciilifeform: this being the 'reference client'
asciilifeform: third time in the past year or so.
asciilifeform: chetty: literally, 'he who leads us into battle.' the modern english word 'governor' has rather different connotations.
mike_c: i guess people either don't think JD is correct, or are just deliberately giving their money away. this guy is firing off 100 bets per minute. i mean, that is just the astoundingly worst way to bet possible.
moiety: chetty: so, drakula the big chief?!
asciilifeform: 1486. "Сказание о Дракуле-воеводе." (tale of drakula, the chieftain.)
asciilifeform: moiety: might wanna look for a respectable translation of the whole manuscript.
moiety: asciilifeform: i'm going to collect it all together
gribble: The operation succeeded.
deadweasel: ;;later tell mircea_popescu no no, I just enjoyed their hometown cuisine with sake, nothing more. hometown cuisine is not a euphemism.
jurov: and then gets invited to buda by king. poor lady bathory should have known better.
asciilifeform: nd the alms-seekers did burn. and spoke drakula to his nobles thusly, 'do you know why i did this? firstly, let them no more pester people, and let there be no more beggars in my lands, and all shall be wealthy; secondly, i have set them free; let them suffer no more upon this earth from poverty or illness.'
asciilifeform: hen came to them in person, and asked 'what more do you wish?' they answered thusly: 'it is known only to god, lord, and to you: do that which god commands you.' he asked further of them: 'do you wish me to make you happy in this world, wanting for nothing?' they, awaiting from him great generosity, replied in unison, 'yes, we do want, our lord!' and then drakula ordered the house sealed and put to the torch, a
asciilifeform: try this one on for size then. 'once drakula proclaimed: let it be known throughout all of his lands, that all who are old, or invalid, or diseased, or poor, shall come to him. and so came to him an untold multitude of beggars and vagabonds, awaiting generous alms. he ordered them all brought to a house for this purpose built, and had food and wine brought to them. they feasted amidst great merriment. drakula t
asciilifeform: ke a rogue, storms into the home of a great lord. had he come to me and spoke reason, i would have found the rogue in my home and either given him up, or asked for his reprieve.' the king was told of this. and he laughed, and marvelled at drakula's approach.'
asciilifeform: ht the rogue - and released the rogue. the other constables took flight, and, when they came to the judge, spoke to him of this. the judge and his horsemen went to the king with complaint of drakula. the king a messenger to drakula, to ask, 'why have you wrought this evil?' he replies thusly, 'no evil have i wrought, but the constable has slaine himself with his own hand: such shall be the demise of any who, li
asciilifeform: 'when the king freed [exiled] drakula from the dungeon, he lead him to buda, and gifted to him a house in pest, opposite buda, but to his court not yet permitted him. and then it happened that some fleeing rogue ran into drakula's manor and took refuge there. the pursuers sought the rogue there and found him. then drakula lept up, snatched his sword, ran from his quarters and beheaded the constable who had caug
jurov: sigh, what did the world come to
ThickAsThieves: and why the Y?
ThickAsThieves: why is the Kyng size smaller looking?
moiety: it's a real shame there just now too
moiety: i would prefer that to rotting in the ground
mircea_popescu: Sarajevo (Cyrillic: Сарајево; pronounced [sǎrajɛʋɔ]) is the capital and largest city of Bosnia and Herzegovina, with an estimated population of 291,422
kakobrekla: anyway the problem is that people dont want to burn bodies to ashes
kakobrekla: sarajevo had the same problem
moiety: lol you have to book your spot here in advance, theres so little space
mircea_popescu: check it out kakobrekla, other countries are like... you know, inhabited
mircea_popescu: wow, apparently other people had this filled cemeteries problem too!
davout: so they were originally quarries, and a part of them was used to put bones away when paris cemetaries were getting filled up
ThickAsThieves: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/15/bitcoins-largest-exchange-is-dying-heres-why-thats-not-a-problem-for-bitcoin/ <<< if anyone is in the mood to laugh at current WP commenter ignorance
davout: the catacombs in paris aren't really filled with bones and stuff tho, they were originally places where people would get rocks from, don't know the word in english for it
mircea_popescu: there, fixed your nightmares for you.
mircea_popescu: moiety chained nude somewhere in the depts of it, where nobody ever goes.
moiety: i really want to but i think i would get creeped at the entrance on my own davout! lol
davout: moiety: yeah, if you ever go there go with someone who knows
moiety: apparently you can get lost in the catacombes
moiety: might seem a strange question, but is there a smell to these places? i would imagine there would be
mircea_popescu: moiety you sure you weren't thinking of the actual catacombes de paris ?
moiety: have any of you ever visited any of them?
moiety: quite impressive how neatly they can be stacked
gribble: Skull Chapel, Czermna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_Chapel,_Czermna>; Czermna, Lesser Poland Voivodeship - Wikipedia, the free ...: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czermna,_Lesser_Poland_Voivodeship>; Kaplica Czaszek: The Chapel of Skulls | Atlas Obscura: <http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/kaplica-czazek-chapel-skulls>
moiety: it's the catacombs im thinking of
moiety: yes! thats the one!
mircea_popescu: "then it was filled with like 100k skeletons"
kakobrekla: >and due to French unpreparedness, the fort was easily captured by a small German raiding party.
kakobrekla: >The construction work for Fort de Douaumont started in 1885 and the fort was continually reinforced until 1913.
gribble: Douaumont - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douaumont>; Fort Douaumont - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Douaumont>; Douaumont ossuary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douaumont_ossuary>
moiety: this reminds me of the place in paris
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moiety: are osuaries those places with the wee slots for peoples remains?
mircea_popescu: how do you think they got THOSE bones ?
mircea_popescu: for that matter, visit rome. they have osuaries.
mircea_popescu: you want the entire country to be a cemetery or something ?
mircea_popescu: moiety who, they ?
moiety: you know, there is a park where i usually bury my small pets... im thinking others have probably been uncovered and i just havent seen it...
mircea_popescu: take the bones out, bury someone else.
mircea_popescu: it's actually useful in places where you need to reuse the ground
ThickAsThieves: however long til the bones are no longer drunk
mircea_popescu: i think the next is 42 or 49 or somesuch
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla well it's done in the east (moldavia), where the retarded romanians live.
moiety: only the first 7 mircea_popescu ?
ThickAsThieves: thats one of the excuses i give myself for betting
mircea_popescu: the internets know all.
mircea_popescu: so maybe next time ask the internets before devirginizing.
moiety: oh lol not a single thing aside from not having any other option
mircea_popescu: moiety but it was the first time you did it right ?
kakobrekla: clean the bones up
mircea_popescu: why not ask a day before rather than a day after teh failburial ?
mircea_popescu: Willdude123 yeah. by not touching them for 6 months.
kakobrekla: Willdude123 there are several ways of doing that
Willdude123: I wonder if I could somehow time lock my btc. So make it such that I can't touch them for 6 months
kakobrekla: well, i vouch taht rodents dont care if they are eaten
mircea_popescu: why does wilma care whether it's eaten by fungus or mammals ?
kakobrekla: well im out of the loop apparently
kakobrekla: did the chang goat get him or what
ThickAsThieves: it's probablt on the cat owner's steps
mircea_popescu: yeah it probably put the thing's head on a pike somewhere.
ThickAsThieves: they transport
moiety: im a bit scared to search the garden but i feel i should just in case theres bits i could rebury
ThickAsThieves: maybe the cat needs a home
mircea_popescu: they have raccoons now ?
ThickAsThieves: i'd guess another critter
moiety: there isnt that much of a mess for a dog to have been digging
ThickAsThieves: you should ask the guy who runs it
mircea_popescu: ever heard the "seven feet under" expression ?
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ThickAsThieves: [16:55] <ThickAsThieves> i'm going with "btc withdrawals are now partially open, so we can monitor the situation"
ThickAsThieves: i called it! "With this new system in place, MtGox should be able to resume withdrawals soon. At the beginning we will do so at a moderated pace and with new daily/monthly limits in place to prevent any problems with the new system and to take
Namworld: [06:30] <davout> bitcoin stocks are perfectly compliant with the laws of gravity
davout: Willdude123: i didn't really investigate the subject of the application of american regulations to non-US bitcoin stock exchanges, but it seems the SEC does have an opinion, not that it really matters that much though. you should ask nefario about it, he used to run glbse that allegedly closed down due to some sort of SEC-indeuced legal pressure
Willdude123: Loads of exchanges tell people not to trade if they're in the US. What laws apply if they are offshore but primarily serving Americans?
davout: bitcoin stocks are perfectly compliant with the laws of gravity
davout: Willdude123: "teh law" is something relative to where you live, so unless you specify *which* law it is impossible to go further
CiPi: I`m glad that i don`t have coins there.
davout: "hey, someone is currently performing surprise butseks on your account, since they'll probably change your password right away you're fucked nonetheless"
CiPi: They lie again.
Namworld: monthly limits in place to prevent any problems with the new system and to take
Namworld: soon. At the beginning we will do so at a moderated pace and with new daily/
moiety: yeah ive just been having a look at other listings for reference cazalla i see what you mean
cazalla: moiety: obviously but 99% of them are total shit
moiety: -strippers get angry if... they aren't spray painted gold first
cazalla: depends, most people selling domains there are selling utter junk
moiety: lol i love how bingo's speech becomes more and more dogelike the more and more vodka-filled he is
moiety: oooh herbi thanks for the mailpile link
herbijudlestoids: alright, enjoy the song ;)
BingoBoingo: I coughed on the lappy and nao it is angry