BingoBoingo: Thailand and Ukraine in flames at the same time? There won't be any girls left for the cam sites.
mircea_popescu: so they do.
BingoBoingo: Great point "Boys get caught and go to jail, girls get caught and go to the maternity ward."
mircea_popescu: meh fucking asshats these people.
mircea_popescu: that sad moment when your favorite read of the day is a year old articlke of your own
BingoBoingo: Never before has Bowlderization done as much harm as it did to the Big Rock Candy Mountain
mircea_popescu: To be buggered sore like a hobos whore in the Big Rock Candy Mountains.
mircea_popescu: ony because all the ohio fuckwits and ESPECIALLY fuckwitettes flocked to ny to be
mircea_popescu: basically, all the fuckwits doing the retweeting, redditing etc are people with "liberal" educations and a ton of debt, no means of sustenance and a desire to live in manhattan
mircea_popescu: anyway, from reading his comments i get now why the low income housing for free stuff is so important to these people.
mircea_popescu: perhaps at some level that happening happens because actual women that are actually competent also... happen to be more comfortable with me than with fucktards like this and his ilk. nevertheless...
BingoBoingo: In the meantime a higher portion of MP's IT and coding workforce has vaginas than SIlicon Valley's
mircea_popescu: sort-of like little mtgoxes scattered around the land.
mircea_popescu: moreover, fuckwits like this and whats-her-rapeface cause i forgot tend to live in their own realities
pankkake: I've seen a few "enough is enough" about the supposed IT sexism. I think the nonsense worked so far because those are usually quiet communities, so they took silence as acceptation
mircea_popescu: closer to leni riefenstahl on the riefenstahl-eisenstein scale of socialist propaganda.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 it's a fine example of the us socialism. guy's an (unpaid) propaganda agent of stupidity.
Duffer1: i get the strong impression that it's more 'tell me what to think' type blogging rather than 'teach me how'
BingoBoingo: The Derp is strong with this one http://dashes.com/anil/2014/01/stupid-simple-things-sf-techies-could-do-to-stop-being-hated.html
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's a price.
mircea_popescu: First, to recap: I had about 18,000 followers of my own back in October, when I got added to the suggested user list. (Let's call these "organic" followers.) If I'd have continued my normal rate of growth, i'd have about 25,000 followers today, but thanks to being on the list, I've got close to 300,000 followers. Surprisingly though, I only get as many retweets and replies as I'd get with my organic number of followers.
Diablo-D3: people give a shit about gender on the internet? lol.
BingoBoingo: Oh, Loser invoked my name http://dashes.com/anil/2014/02/a-checklist-of-stupid-things-men-will-say-when-they-find-out-i-only-retweet-women.html
mircea_popescu: donated to a kitten shelter or w/e it is they do.
mircea_popescu: i dun think he actually has the clue to see the difference, just, the doge troop of fucktards probably haven't bought his payola whatever yet,
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The Doge article where he wrote about only retweeting women. It would have been a Bit article if only it wouldn't insult Bit, hence Doge article.
mircea_popescu: the fact that by starting your tweets with an @ reference you effectively limit distribution to only those who already follow the idiot in question allows one to engage idiots who otherwise you'd hesitate to engage for the last thing you want is publicise unremarkable idiots.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i gotta say there is one thing i love about twitter :
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I read the Doge article on the retweets before. Name was unnotable though.
mircea_popescu: but you know, whatever. they're asking for it.
mircea_popescu: the raping that this entire establishment of nothings and nobodies is about to get all through the rest of the decade is unparallel in the history of rape.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is almost as good as the Variety Speak. We need John Taffer in this channel.
BingoBoingo: I might also have to finish the episode of Bar Rescue first
mircea_popescu: the kind of nobody who imagines that buying 500k worth of twitter followers and going to faggoty parties in CA makes him notable.
mircea_popescu: this is what the fucktard said.
mircea_popescu: wasn't inclined to give some VC the nod on this. On reflection, I'll be explicit: If you're a venture capitalist, and you invest in Pax's startup without a profound, meaningful and years-long demonstration of responsibility from Pax beforehand, you're complicit in extending the tech industry's awful track record of exclusion, and it's unacceptable."
mircea_popescu: "There was also a pretty dogged pitch for his startup, which will get all kinds of warm huzzahs from the intersection of MRAs, Bitcoin fans, NSA critics and Redditors. I was pretty amazed that he went for it. He flat out said that he wants his startup to be funded and wasn't sure if it'd be possible after all of his, and I replied that it realistically wasn't going to happen without the say-so of someone like me, and I
Vexual: whenever you get a chance r3wt, theres no rush
ozbot: Positive Force - We Got The Funk (Original US re-edit version vinyl 1979) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna lay odds on the fucktard actually showing ?
r3wt: if i could get it back, the bitcoin protocol would be seriously flawed.
Vexual: you're the finest
r3wt: no percent, i send it to you straight minus the tx fee
r3wt: send the coins.
r3wt: you're high if you think i'm going to just import the private key on the server. i'll make a new local wallet import it then destroy the privatekey after i'
Vexual: did you see my support request to this effect with another username?
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user r3wt to user Vexual: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=r3wt&dest=Vexual | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Vexual | Rated since: never
Vexual: r3wt, ask any of the more reputable players here if you like
davout: mircea_popescu: "what's the inernet gonna do? blog about it?" <<< made me lol and looks relevant here
mircea_popescu: the turkish president could buy twitter and bury it somewhere and nobody'd even know.
mircea_popescu: so basically if people who predicate their lives on twitter followers consistently act like anyone gives a shit about their twitter followers, somehow ??? the twitter followers will matter ?
antephialtic: I don't think the turkish president gives a fuck how many twitter followers he has
Vexual: take 10% of the bitcoin for your trouble, it should take all of 5 minutes
r3wt: lol, i'm not goinna take your coins. i was just wondering. i'm not experienced enough to be sure if importing the key is the idea, especially with reported "Transaction malleability" vulnerabilities discovered in bitcoin recently.
Vexual: you can take the lot if you like
Vexual: 0.08 and change, whats it worth to you? you have the key
Vexual: experience the atc power friend
r3wt: I'm pretty sure i can't transfer the key from ATC to BTC
cazalla: i wonder how long until casino bitcoin offload them then seeing the privately held ones were added to the exchange
Vexual: take a % for the cause
Vexual: r3wt, i accidently sent a bunch of bitcoin to my altcoin deposit address, can you have someone trasfer they kay over?
cazalla: can havelock stop people selling shares that were privately held but than added to the exchange later (see casino bitcoin)
mircea_popescu: r3wt use bcauth as the bot tells you eh
greenspan_fan: I've looked at the welfare state as supplanting charity, but it's interesting to think that having charity function properly in practice hurts the rational for the welfare state
gribble: (auth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.
gribble: Error: "authenticate" is not a valid command.
r3wt: ;;authenticate
greenspan_fan: that's another good post
mircea_popescu: so i guess the circle is complete, don't recomend yarvin to me, recomend trilema to his readership, which will result in him having more stuff to write in the future.
Vexual: no ensuring the mower blades are firmly attached can be detrimental to observers health
greenspan_fan: it's more intended for the severely computer illiterate
mircea_popescu: theirs does not in fact work as implemented, like a lawn mower that doesn't cut, you just follow after it with clippers.
greenspan_fan: isn't theirs worse, though? I can get the news from anywhere, but to read your site I have to use proxies or wait
Vexual: the content is often chewier
mircea_popescu: "i suppose this is what should be on my business card : i'm the guy who came up on his own with a better system than what the nyt came up with, six i mean eight months later"
Vexual: hey, i do the trolling here cazalla
mircea_popescu: i was absolutely the first to charge.
mircea_popescu: i GAVE IT to the nyt.
cazalla: that idea to charge, did you get that from NYT or some other news site?
greenspan_fan: he was the original musician (I believe) whose reputation had faust superimposed over it
mircea_popescu: the pedestrian explanation, of course, being that he had a much softer crowd to work with.
mircea_popescu: you play the violin ?
greenspan_fan: yeah, I wasted my deal w/ the lower power on violin playing skills
mircea_popescu: either that or satan.
mircea_popescu: i never draft. i publish then i have editors edit my shit. maybe once in a blue moon i decide midway that what i'm writing is stupid and drop it altogether.
greenspan_fan: Well, one purpose of multiple drafts is to capture the best version of what you're trying to say
greenspan_fan: rather than having to go through tediously to find what's worthwhile
greenspan_fan: and in particular, the image of everything great ever written starting as a blank page was perfect
Vexual: theres an irc man
greenspan_fan: there's not an incentive to perfection
greenspan_fan: low effort in the sense that you can tell posts are first/second drafts
mircea_popescu: not much of any value or import can be found outside of a blog these days, nor will be for a while.
mircea_popescu: the same was true on broadway, back when broadway still mattered : huge noise to signal ratio.
mircea_popescu: but this is merely a side effect of them having the absolute monopoly on all peaks of human production.
greenspan_fan: The line about facing the "same one doom" in trilema.com/2014/a-conceit-or-the-importance-of-blogging/ was excellent as well
greenspan_fan: so I may have to find some of my usb keys to actually subscribe, rather than pirating
mircea_popescu: (it's rather loose)
mircea_popescu: i did write the translation ad hoc.
mircea_popescu: and no, the original is a classical romanian poem, for which asciilifeform ferreted out the old soviet translations. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#509201
mircea_popescu: you should check it out. cagney in west berlin, fixing up the slutty daughter of his us boss with a local nutty kid.
greenspan_fan: hey, did you write/translate the poem in "The Letter Third"? http://trilema.com/2014/the-letter-third/
greenspan_fan: suggesting a holiday in cambodia (under the pol pot regime), because something short of actually being in a communist country is unlikely to make an impact
greenspan_fan: ever heard the song "Holiday in Cambodia"? It's kinda apropos
mircea_popescu: you mean persuaded rather than dismissed ?
mircea_popescu: is not excusable in 2000s, when everyone THINKS they can read.
BingoBoingo: greenspan_fan: Transnistria is the last surviving Soviet Socialist Republic
mircea_popescu: yeah but what is excusable in the 1800s back when nobody could or did read and so you were able to count on a certain audience
greenspan_fan: which is what I alluded to when I said one of the reasons smart people espouse communism is for theoretical interest
mircea_popescu: (the proposed difference between fascism, national socialism, soviet socialism, communism, etc so forth is purely imaginary)
mircea_popescu: i'm not throwing out heidegger or husserl or hegel on the grounds of being involved in communism
Vexual: and your freind with the offer of 1bc?
mircea_popescu: it makes the point. marx studying idiocy is marx studying idiocy.
mircea_popescu: the quote was re kabbalah, of course, but it makes little difference.
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan "it is forbidden to have a course in nonsense. But the history of nonsense, that is scholarship."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I just going off of what I see. Zizek dislike the communism he grew up with, but instead prefered the still stupider communism advanced by Hulkamania
mircea_popescu: or else they just weren't intelligent. at all.
mircea_popescu: either they are in fact intelligent but it has nothing to do with the shameful stupidity of communism, much like beethoven probably farted but this isn;t normally mentioned
mircea_popescu: no, simply your categorisation of these people is flawed.
greenspan_fan: cf. zizek, who I can't really slot into one of the above groups
greenspan_fan: Alternatively, you have people with great intelligence who support it because it's theoretically interesting, or controversial, or perhaps out of masochism
mircea_popescu: but no one goes there willingly. one is a communist that is too stupid, too lazy, or too stupid and lazy to be anything else.
greenspan_fan: communism seems to attract the intersection of both groups
greenspan_fan: but there's also the people who don't respond to any sort of abstract counterargument
mircea_popescu: communism is like cancer : at the very most it allows the fucked to appreciate how great it'd have been if they weren't so fucked.
BingoBoingo: Seriously like no other 42 minutes of video says 'Murica like this http://www.spike.com/episodes/81jluh/bar-rescue-yo-ho-ho-and-a-bottle-of-dumb-season-2-ep-201
greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu I don't really get the "infinite hitpoints" thing
mircea_popescu: it only goes the same way if you're not yourself a cow.
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan infinite hitpoints. the evisceration of each individual head of cattle is its own, private and special event.
Vexual: i expect dreadlocked hippies living in a squat isn't the same
greenspan_fan: it just doesn't seem like enough to point out how it goes the same way every time
B007: the commies are coming! hide under a desk
mircea_popescu: to spin this into some sort of story of our pathetic colonies being relevant, let alone central...
mircea_popescu: the reality on the field is that france invented communism, and everyone tried to copy france to some degree.
greenspan_fan: the problem w/ offering to send people bitcoin is that the people who are doing it lately have like 0.001 btc to their name
mircea_popescu: this would be a fine example of why i hold the guy for a complete ignoramus.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: jesus god, yarvin actually argues that the us invented communism ?
Vexual: but talking to the phone girls at publishing houses is so much fun
mircea_popescu: so no, the bitcoin only exists if he does what i say.
Vexual: you could ask that they are sent in a carbon nuetral fashion and all
mircea_popescu: i am not interested in a) enriching foreign third parties or b) participating in relationships of any kind on any other structure than as designed by me.
Vexual: mircea_popescu, it stikes me that the collected works of this taleb fellow might cost less to buy than 1bc, have you tried his publisher(s)?
greenspan_fan: a friend of mine ordered a miner from them and now uses it mainly as a space heater
BingoBoingo: Bar Rescue might be the second best education in BTC business
mircea_popescu: B007 yeah but you don't have the name.
B007: 10 000 of them
davout: it kinda looks like the store-your-porn kind of security device, not the store-your-bitcoin-wallet
mircea_popescu: the blog post is fine
mircea_popescu: well, the thing you discuss is bad.
davout: if the first comment i get about it is "omfg that is bad." :-)
davout: "and these words convinced me to blog-pukku"
mircea_popescu: especially because of all the shit he's written.
davout: also do enjoy some of my new blog for brekko : http://blog.bitcoin-central.net/2014/02/18/the-chameleon-first-impressions/
davout: and variations thereof
mircea_popescu: he's possibly the only smart guy on twitter.
greenspan_fan: BingoBoingo but you'd think that after the fifth encounter he might have something to say?
BingoBoingo: greenspan_fan: Protesters are worthless unless they go as far as Ukraine.
greenspan_fan: BingoBoingo his repeated lack of response to those protesters is not a good sign either
greenspan_fan: so the heuristic judgement suggests a significant amount of double spending
BingoBoingo: benkay: Just fucking with the car again
greenspan_fan: my impression was that they're past the point of being a functioning business since they're not bothering to update/answer customers, and one of the public facing parts of their business (twitter) hasn't been updated and what is there is embarrassing, since, like a month ago
BingoBoingo: greenspan_fan: There is a lot to learn from Vexual
Vexual: thats prolly exactly what they're thinking greenspan_fan
greenspan_fan: my personal belief is that they're fucked, but it'd be profitable to know one way or the other
Vexual: or have another milkshake and stay rotund
greenspan_fan: or alternatively, sell your account/wallet to someone else who thinks they're solvent
greenspan_fan: the fact that it isn't (and assuming it's possible to trade in any volume) means that you'd be selling/buying from people who clearly don't know as much as you do
greenspan_fan: it should be near zero or near the other exchanges, if enough people knew if it was (in)solvent, right?
mircea_popescu: the thinking is that you're more likely to misinform than inform trying to do that.
greenspan_fan: hey, I was wondering: is there anyone keeping track of mt. gox's inflows/outflows? or are those too hard to identify/untangle?
mircea_popescu: reading all the words
mircea_popescu: how the fuck am i going to read anything, im stuck here with you guise,
mircea_popescu: well, corporal as the case may be.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There is a huge gulf between an Officer and a Soldier though.
mircea_popescu: of course the great germany of ww1 fielded as many people as russia did,
mircea_popescu: the old plans (from ww1) i mean
mircea_popescu: so he just tried to do what the pops did.
mircea_popescu: hitler had an inferiority complex to the "old regime"
mircea_popescu: the old plans (from ww2) called for germany to sweep west into france and then east to russia
mircea_popescu: hitler was, if my otherwise uninformed opinion interests, simply caught in a battle with his own demons.
decimation: it's true. the invasion creates a Schelling point
mircea_popescu: before it had to fucking invade. and they likely wouldn't have cared to find out.
mircea_popescu: a russian officer makes the point that most of the russian soldiers didn't even know wtf germany is
mircea_popescu: decimation in one of the countless retellings of the entire nazi thing (a woman in berlin)
decimation: one laughs at the thought
asciilifeform: the whole notion of applying concepts from 'human' civvie life, with various connotations, like 'self defence', to the doings of empires, is fundamentally disingenuous.
BingoBoingo: The story of CoinBase http://www.spike.com/episodes/81jluh/bar-rescue-yo-ho-ho-and-a-bottle-of-dumb-season-2-ep-201
decimation: yeah exactly. 1942 US would not have been alpha enough to marshal the oriental hordes into invading moscow
mircea_popescu: whether its enemies actually bother to call the us on its gargle or not... they still own it.
mircea_popescu: so yarvin delivers. there, greenspan_fan is a short and sweet explanation of the concept.
mircea_popescu: "You know, Goog, once you start lying, there's really no end to it. For one thing, even if your enemies ignore lying, defensive evasion, and other telltale "beta" behaviors, they still own you." <<< whoa.
decimation: I've no doubt that Stalin had the motive and opportunity
decimation: it seems that there would be a pile of nazi intelligence or something that would substantiate the claim
asciilifeform: whose writings on subjects he was personally connected with (gru, spetznaz) were interesting and plausible, the other stuff, not so much.
mircea_popescu: it does seem the sort of nonsense he publishes for the sake of being interesting to chicks.
decimation: even 1942 US would have been able to marshal them to do anything useful
mircea_popescu: the only factory produced chewing gum.
asciilifeform: not enought nukes on the shelf at that point to make a meaningful difference
asciilifeform: and not because of the u.s admins being traitors in disguise
greenspan_fan: the joint chiefs advised against it so it ended up not happening
asciilifeform: decimation: problem with herry moldy & co. is that the west refrained from 'dulles plan' (rearm the jerries and play a rematch in '45) because they knew they'd have their balls handed to them
mircea_popescu: jackshit they could have done, cmon.
decimation: the us abandoned china to Stalin and Mao
greenspan_fan: chiang kai shek was a miserable bastard who was mad at the us because they got shafted after wwii and korea
greenspan_fan: so for the us to successfully projected power, it would have to treat china like panama?
mircea_popescu: all she needs is to lift the tail.
asciilifeform: the buttons are a little dodgy nowadays. some clogged with spoodge, some connected to winblows '98 boxen, others miswired.
greenspan_fan: but clearly, being able to get china/su to come to the table entails some projection of power, no?
mircea_popescu: otherwise it easily sums up to "example of the us failing to project its claimed power"
mircea_popescu: only debatable in the sense of debatably useful for your side in this discussion
asciilifeform: discussions like this inevitably conflate '...was an effective ruler' and 'the buttons on his throne still worked in those days.'
mircea_popescu: otherwise you know... some presidents were really tall and handsome.
mircea_popescu: i asked you to qualify well run strictly in the context of our discussion.
mircea_popescu: this is like dr greg to the power of ten
mircea_popescu: did the subject change ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the bron scare one.
mircea_popescu: that such terpitude even exists in the open...
mircea_popescu: the "someone like me" is some nobody on twitter, whose claim to fame was "retweeting only women"
greenspan_fan: The ones that come to mind in terms of achievements: detente, opened relations w/ china, created EPA,
mircea_popescu: " I was pretty amazed that he went for it. He flat out said that he wants his film to be funded and wasn't sure if it'd be possible after all of his, and I replied that it realistically wasn't going to happen without the say-so of someone like me, and I wasn't inclined to give some producer the nod on this. "
mircea_popescu: surprising you don't have reagan in there, really.
greenspan_fan: his administration was one of the most well run in recent memory
greenspan_fan: political considerations (can't do much if other democrats can't get elected). Which is the price you pay for living in an egalitarian society.