greenspan_fan: yes, didn't they have to switch back?
asciilifeform: anyone recall the stories of u.s. soldiers in vietnam making fun of their plastic stocks?
the20year2: would seem cheaper to me then to create dies and just PIM it
diametric: The resins objet uses are stupid expensive
diametric: If it were like an objet, then yeah $700 probably isn't enough.
cads: I think they want to see what a $1000 3d printer can do
cads: and fly out a guy to check the prototype
cads: right now they use a STL machine in italy
the20year2: Are you talking full length stock, say 18"-24" long or just the end stock for like an AR/AK that's 6" or so
diametric: most of the toolpath work for 3D printing is entirely automated
diametric: the20year2: yeah thats what i said
the20year2: Big cost on the t
ThickAsThieves: sounds like the embroidery business
diametric: the20year2: creating the toolpath from the design can be just as difficult as the design itself.
diametric: the20year2: 3D printing thats a bit high, but for traditional CNC its not.
the20year2: But, as you said if it's a prototype it might make sense to test it before using. Granted I don't undersand how you came to $700 if that fee doesn't include the design work too
the20year2: Most companies do , or they use PIM to make one from say zytel
cads: I'm not sure why they would not simply mill it from wood
cads: the client thinks that it would be a good idea to instead retain my friend for 25 an hour while he helps them set up
Apocalyptic: cads, was there some "niggers.txt" attachment ?
cads: he managed not to mention that he has a partner who's loaning him the computronium base of the business
asciilifeform: the bureaucrats got a good deal for that 500. case never went to trial, and so they'll get to pull this shit as many times as they like.
asciilifeform: that cheque has got to be even more valuable then a Knuth one
ThickAsThieves: "are you trying to say the NSA is not a joke?"
mike_c: w00t, $500 from the nsa
kakobrekla: <VirtaEu> yes, you can contribute to the Satoshi Project to receive a guaranteed 120% payout (34.1% funded on round 49) : http://cur.lv/7lc9r
VirtaAssets: you can contribute to the Satoshi Project to receive a guaranteed 120% payout (34.1% funded on round 49) : http://cur.lv/7lc9r
diametric: asciilifeform: what appears to be happening now, is verizon and comcast are pushing netflix through their already saturated links
asciilifeform: re "do not block or slow down access to any lawful content on the Internet." << http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/netad.jpg
cads: What's the appropriate consulting fee, assuming I'm additionally training some workers and teaching them how to use the tech?
cads: hey guys, suppose a business is consulting me to provide them a fleet of 5 3d printers (which can be bought for around $4K a piece)
ThickAsThieves: "do not block or slow down access to any lawful content on the Internet."
benkay: but man you start /stacking/ ideas and people just trip over their own feet
ThickAsThieves: what were previous century themes?
kakobrekla: well the question went "do you believe that. ..."
nubbins`: if it wasn't for peripheral vision, i wouldn't know what the rest of the sentence was beyond "decentralization"
nubbins`: and then a larger chunk if "I" is followed by "believe"
kakobrekla: zomg "i believe that decentralization in the central theme of the century." dude, it aint funny!
mod6: ahh cool, never noticed the "check GPG key quality" link on the WoT page for a certain registered person, it links to nosuchlabs.com's collider :)
nubbins`: on another note: "Pussy Riot members attacked with whips by Cossack militia in Sochi"
nubbins`: i've got a brown thumb anyway, the best i'd be able to do is pull together a team on your behalf
nubbins`: oh, totally, you'd need a dozen or so people at the least
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: We played well before the tournament started I believe. It was this thing started on a whim as a four player round robin. truffles nubbins` and myself were in MP's spec I believe and then Namworld was online at the exact right time. Since we need some sort of three way tiebreaker if nubbins` loses to everyone... Fuck it, five way round robin.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic gotta ask BingoBoingo then, he's been butchering the championship management.
jcpham: in the -assetsd
nubbins`: you're looking at this from the perspective of buying a license and selling it, not from the perspective of actually financing a legal grow-op
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic i thinkj they started it like 6 weeks ago
nubbins`: security costs plummet then, as well
Apocalyptic: how come i'm not in the tournament ?
mircea_popescu: diametric the federal plan is to try and survive.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: then my record remains 0-1
diametric: I feel like the feds plan is just to loom over the industry to cast doubt on it, but only rarely try to enforce it at the federal level.
nubbins`: there's a guy in my city who has a massive hydroponic lettuce operation
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I don't remember, but I didn't think Apocalyptic was in the tournament.
nubbins`: plenty of money then
mircea_popescu: diametric let them consolidate a few years first.
mircea_popescu: but for different reasons altogether ?
diametric: They need to do that, so someone with time and money can challenge that shit
diametric: nubbins`: not for the reasons you think
nubbins`: why? fuck the dea
diametric: nubbins`: i hope they would
nubbins`: DEA bandaleros can technically (if not practically) swoop in whenever they wish
nubbins`: are they xferable?
mircea_popescu: diametric you could probably put it in the bedroom anyway
mircea_popescu: didn't blow on them first, go straight to jale
nubbins`: diametric: for the sake of a differing opinion, i think you should purchase the luxury item you don't have room for
diametric: I've run out of real estate to put them
ThickAsThieves: problem for the business is,
Jere_Jones: I'm thinking more along the lines of the new owners not getting the benefit of the previous owners good ratings.
mircea_popescu: you can effect key changes on the wot.
Jere_Jones: Would there be an implied social contract to not transfer the identities private key if the business changes ownership?
mircea_popescu: the wot is the corporation register of bitcoin. whether you're a person or anything else, you're equally a corporation anywya.
Jere_Jones: Coinbase (just an example) creates a WOT identity and puts the fingerprint on their website. Happy with the service? Rate it. Unhappy, rate it.
Jere_Jones: Can/Should WOT be used for a business identity instead of the individuals behind that business?
mircea_popescu: mike_c the eyes don't mind all that much just as long as you don't go all spinoza on them
mircea_popescu: but anyway, everyone : the best thing you can do for your eyes is make all the text big.
mircea_popescu: but the original page is what, 12pt ?
asciilifeform: so it looks more or less like the original page
mircea_popescu: i don't think i've read type smaller than about half an inch in the past decade
asciilifeform: the viewer auto-crops whitespace
asciilifeform: never published (i decided it was crap, and shortly after, someone beat me to the punch)
nubbins`: what's the biggest res that HDMI can support at a reasonable framerate, i wonder?
asciilifeform: and the scans are usually taken in a ridiculously high res to begin with
ThickAsThieves: the nexus 7 is pretty nice
asciilifeform: if someone sold a screen with double the pixels for double the cost, i'd have bought that.
asciilifeform: about the same cost
asciilifeform: i literally don't need it for anything other than reading djvu scans.
asciilifeform: one of the google tablet toys
nubbins`: nod. fine for the size, but if you want something bigger..
asciilifeform: TomServo: simply bought the highest 'dpi' screen sold, for reading scanned crap.
TomServo: asciilifeform: got a link to the monitor you mentioned?
ThickAsThieves: a whole thread on the topic :)
mircea_popescu: well i guess this passes the bar for advertising, what can i say.
ThickAsThieves: and advertised there
ThickAsThieves: TF endorsed them
ThickAsThieves: i always assumed they stopped mining and started faking it at some point
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
nubbins`: more of the same
bones`: Pretty sure they've made it to mayhem
ThickAsThieves: “It is important to continually improve Canada’s regime to address emerging risks, including virtual currencies such as Bitcoin, that threaten Canada’s international leadership in the fight against money laundering and terrorist financing,” said Flaherty.
asciilifeform: ' he was the winner of the "nigritude ultramarine" search engine optimization contest,[5] and in 2005 he was photographed and printed in the New York Times on June 2, 2005, Fashion Thursday section in a Threadless t-shirt mentioning the web site Goatse.cx.'
mircea_popescu: who the fuck ever loved a woman and never left any scar on her.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck cockless inept lover is this cohen guy
mircea_popescu: As the mist leaves no scar on the dark green hill so my body leaves no scar on you and never will
asciilifeform: you could play as the 'barbarians'
mircea_popescu: (the one that identified which civilisation you're playing)
mircea_popescu: by altering a bit in the savegame
mircea_popescu: did any of you discover that the original civ could be forced into multiplayer mode
jayk: i had that for the atari 2600
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asciilifeform: brother and i played this on our 'Iskra' (xt clone) and combed three different dictionaries to learn what the fuck an osha is
gribble: Hard Hat Mack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Hat_Mack>; Hard Hat Mack Game Review (Apple II) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abOXbHPga30>; C64 Longplay - Hard Hat Mack - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1DLAHY8XeM>
jayk: oh there has been 6 in 3 weeks
ThickAsThieves: "throw it all out the window"
ThickAsThieves: rebranding sure is brutal these days!
jayk: another jp morgan bank jumper
mircea_popescu: where the fuck do you live, florida ?
mircea_popescu: fcking condominium boards. they never go anywhere.
ThickAsThieves: cuz she believed in the org
ThickAsThieves: they have secret meetings without her and such
ThickAsThieves: but she's actually the boss
ThickAsThieves: indeed, her being a woman happens to be one of the reasons she's leaving
mircea_popescu: well, in her defense, women playing the game and men playing the game are different problems.
ThickAsThieves: she feels she must play the game
mircea_popescu: which is unnatural, to the point it corrupts dogs.
mircea_popescu: kids that live in the us schools today, forbidden to as much as touch, grow up with this HORRID fear of everyone and everything
mircea_popescu: by which i mean : kids who hussle each other grow strong and confident
mircea_popescu: but imo even more importantly because it fails to resolve tensions with the unknown
mircea_popescu: in this case mutual catering is actually a large chunk of the problem.
ThickAsThieves: being in the US, and a background in mktg & visual media, it's hard for me to avoid the desire to cater i guess
mircea_popescu: see how he goes from there.
mircea_popescu: if random guy fell into the chat with that request i'd have probably linked him to jurov's manual.
mircea_popescu: we'd have ended up bogged down in the fact that i know who you are
ThickAsThieves: Here’s a challenge : defend the options crap. in public. Against me.
mircea_popescu: and the reason they bothered is the experience/knowledge that i actually do act under my own authority,
mircea_popescu: the reason people could ever construct their arguments was that i was engaging the substance, and visibly so, which allows for retort.
ThickAsThieves: well what if i had come to you saying your options are shit cuz they a borked
mircea_popescu: there's a fundamental difference here in that sense.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves but i did engage the substance.
ThickAsThieves: maybe use your mpex options problem as an example, it was brought up more than once that you had a problem and it should be solved, but only after preparing the information in a way you could digest would you acknowledge it
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the most effective point in all of us foreign policy was when kennedy said "fu, we're ghoing to war"
mircea_popescu: any other approach runs straight into "i'll unconvince myself for five dollah mista"
pankkake: I give up on the forum btw. it's hopeless.
mircea_popescu: and the noob either withdraws the "ipo" (which i've seen at least once) or else goes on a derprampage.
mircea_popescu: like some derp makes some ipo announcement on tardtalk and you or the girl or pankkake (who is just a troll right ?) or kako or anyone says some things
mircea_popescu: in such a circumstance attempting to satisfy the ritual becomes an empty exercise in circularity.
mircea_popescu: this is what this guy is, and what i meant by "nigger" in that article : he's nothing more substantial than JUST the ritual in question.
ThickAsThieves: ive injured myself often on them
ThickAsThieves: some people require ritual in their debate is all i mean, i'm not saying it's justifiable, so much as if you talk to people the "right" way, the substance of the conversation can sometimes be allowed to surface
mircea_popescu: if we reduce it to the smart are smart, the stupid are stupid then there's no longer any clear hierarchy.
mircea_popescu: the difference between the smart and the stupid is simply that the smart can be stupid. the stupid can't be smart.
mircea_popescu: and now recently discovered that they fixed it.
mircea_popescu: ironically, i had an account long long ago, then abandoned it because they did something stupid to the site. don't remember what exactly.
mircea_popescu: generally people seem uniquely unprepared to... you know, explain themselves.
mircea_popescu: i wish exactly the same.
ThickAsThieves: but i guess that's the point
ThickAsThieves: the irony(?) is that i wish your exchange with him had more substance
ThickAsThieves: right, but where are the bitcoin-loving idiots?
lnovy: from that link it looks like that an idiocy is more than common there...
ThickAsThieves: okay there's no way in hell ALL of the comments are naturally negative on WSJ http://online.wsj.com/public/page/reader-comments.html?baseDocId=SB10001424052702303491404579390971115008010&headline=The%20killer%20app%20for%20bitcoin%20may%20be%20international%20transfers%2C%20a%20process%20that%20can%20be%20costly%20and%20slow.
chetty: Welcome to global warming: http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2014/02/18/report-southern-invasion-of-arctic-dwelling-snowy-owls-spreads-to-25-states/
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user jimmyk: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=jimmyk | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jimmyk | Rated since: never
ThickAsThieves: he's this guy on the default forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102470
ThickAsThieves: to become a mod and manage the Altcoin thread he created
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the forum never discovered this a year or so ago.
davout: I LEARNED FROM THE MASTERS
mircea_popescu: soo... our good friend the irrelevant twitter authority has failed to actually back his bullshit. surprisingly enough.
pankkake: le gorafi is often close to reality, like the onion
davout: you can see stuff like "terrorist organizations on strike after the government complexifies the emergency plans color codes"
davout: it's like the onion
davout: (the french school was too retarded apparently)
davout: sat on dutch school there for three years
davout: when i was a kid i wondered why my mum had to buy dollars on the black market
pankkake: another good point for bitcoin in africa, is that using multiple currencies isn't something new
mircea_popescu: the20year if you're genuinely interested to go into depth re your example, http://trilema.com/2013/a-very-unfair-perspective/
pankkake: many (all?) of the horrible african leaders have been western-educated
mircea_popescu: about the same people helping detroit.
chetty: Africa would do fine if people would stop helping them so much
mircea_popescu: the us folk are merely on the receiving end of a pillage system their grandfathers built and they can't support.
the20year: A guy in my town exports farm equipment to south Africa, it's always depressing to hear how terrible things are getting for farmers there
mircea_popescu: the20year the average of africa population is A LOT less retarded than the average of us.
the20year: I just get sad every time I hear about more stupidity in africa, i wish someone would do something taht might actually make the general populace act less retarded
the20year: most africans don't save, saving money for the future is a good thing
davout: the20year: what do you mean? as in inflation-proof?
the20year: I think that you could get good traction on african exchanges/wallets if you show the use of savings
the20year: and if you look , holland's tax is just a throwback to mitterand's big tax in the 80s, which saw a pretty large exodus of business leaving the country
the20year: The guys i've talked to in spain are all leaving over Hollande's big tax
davout: lived there, mommy still knows folks in various ministries, if they're corruptible that could become the main exchange hub in africa >)
mircea_popescu: the20year i pay ~3%. i dunno where you got that 75% from.
the20year: I just want to see how the map changes in Europe more
mircea_popescu: they're well respected.
mircea_popescu: at the rate things are going france or denmark may be tomorrow's bulgaria and ukraine.
mircea_popescu: yes, which is the gist of my earlier point.
the20year: His statement to me was that all political officals are corrupt, but they're also cheap to buy, so you can get done whatever you want for a few hundred bucks
mircea_popescu: the20year actually, romania is exactly capable of producing them, and in fact it had sold them.
the20year: Yeah, obviously that's stupid because Romania can't produce things like that, they're more into producing shovels and cheap inaccurate guns
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the same 2004, romania was one of the 3 countries the us was suspecting might have sold inertial stabilizers and other high tech gear to the evil arabs.
the20year: That's when grain prices in the US started to boom which is finally starting to end now
the20year: Nothing like the holomodor mind you, but they were worried about an agricultural collapse on a massive scale
mircea_popescu: it worked in the ukraine and bulgaria, which mostly made pickles all through the 90s.
the20year: my one contact there keeps wanting me to come over and help with business development. He has a ton of cool stuff going on since they can export to the EU
mircea_popescu: in broad strokes, the soviet plan was to have industry concentrated in russia and agriculture in the west.
the20year: Really? My bulgarian contacts seem to make fun of Romania for being more commie than themselves
the20year: Moldova seems to be a shining beacon of economic and poltical freedom. But that's the only one I can think of
mircea_popescu: they... didn't do so well.
mircea_popescu: about thirty years ago, some countries in the waszaw pact were a lot more zealous than romania in implementing the glorious directives of the eastern socialist brother.
mircea_popescu: i still use them, they're still available for sale. not in the supermarkets, of course, which happens to be great : i never used them, but now more people have direct economic incentive not to.
the20year: And in the US some want to make kosher/halal slaughters manditory
mircea_popescu: it's really amusing to watch, all the bs.
pankkake: then southwest will probably secede
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/19/birds_eye_releases_mashtags_social_spud_snacks/
lnovy: from bitcointalk? or some other? can you point me please with a link? I'd be glad
mircea_popescu: the [-] has the meaning that the current trade is at a lower price than the previous trade
lnovy: eg. that little [-] at the end of assbot line has a meaning of what?
lnovy: mircea_popescu: I'm reading that, but I guess I'm not that schooled in the terminology, therefore I'm asking for layman terms...
mircea_popescu: lnovy why not read the logs of that day ?