mircea_popescu: Firefox is the best argument that proprietarians have about low quality foss software. A million eyes, a million hands, a million turds.
BingoBoingo: In the hotel kakobrekla image on the ceiling is rotated by software rather than mirror.
kakobrekla: well, you can rotate it with software, you dont need to hold the monitor in place.
mircea_popescu: girl goes up to guy's apartment for the first time, sees monitor suspended on rope from ceiling, looks at him "o, you're on #weird-fucks ?"
mircea_popescu: to bother noobs
mircea_popescu: i wonder if an irc chan ever existed where the people wrote upside down deliberately and just held their irc-chat dedicated monitors upside down
mircea_popescu: but the sudden vaginal itch.
mircea_popescu: it's not the smell women object to.
kakobrekla: "would you like some veggie farts?" "actually, id rather opt for that bag of fiat."
BingoBoingo: Adequate intake of beef and pork is the only way to keep one's farts polite.
r3wt: your farts must smell pretty good then
BingoBoingo: A thing that may have been a sport in the 1990's when first boot device was always a: may or may not have been putting floppy disks with format c: in autoexec.bat in Best Buy computers.
mircea_popescu: now they';re making a statue in reykjkavik to immortalize it.
r3wt: no the rm -rf *
mircea_popescu: r3wt yes, they have.
BingoBoingo: r3wt: What are you talking about, Plenty of people have used WIndows to play Eve in the past.
mod6: r3wt: don't underestimate the power of idiots
kakobrekla: it prolly deleted less systems than linux nubs did with rm -rf * comming from irc to fix their problems.
mircea_popescu: "Probably the single most destructive software bug to ship in the last 10 years with consumer software was an EVE Online update whose installer wiped boot drives on Windows."
gribble: Therac-25 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25>; An Investigation of Therac-25 Accidents - I: <http://courses.cs.vt.edu/cs3604/lib/Therac_25/Therac_1.html>; Therac-25 Accidents: An Updated Version of the Original Accident ...: <http://sunnyday.mit.edu/therac-25.html>
mircea_popescu: ;;google THERAC-25
gribble: You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: but binaries is principally the thing
mircea_popescu: well since you're doing it keeping notes would be very good, so others can reproduce it or try to if they wish
Jere_Jones: Do you just want the binaries or do you want to be able to reproduce it?
mircea_popescu: eulora is the mmorpg s.mg is working on
Jere_Jones: I don't think I've ever mentioned the os that I use.
mircea_popescu: o right, you were the windows guy huh ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete the cannonical form of that where i'm from is "pasare ca porcu' nu-i."
ThickAsThieves: so maybe we're saying the same thing
ThickAsThieves: think we're asking two different contexts of the question
davout: but it's harder than what they make it sound
davout: OR you can serve different lists to different people and claim the differences stem out of the different time they were requested at
ThickAsThieves: what *is* it then?
davout: if you have the sum of asks you're not proving you're solvent
jurov: Oh i see. First time there something completely unrelated flashed so i closed it.
davout: just click on the "serious exchange" thgin
jurov: davout just go there, select any market anf you'll see it.
BingoBoingo: Basically a protest encampment is worthless. A protest encampment getting owned by the 5-0 is worthless. A protest camp that can put some hurt on the 5-0 however qualifies as a revolution.
MisterE: no I got it, the tree of democracy must be regularly watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots and all
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Maybe you got the wrong implication out of that statement. The point is for a revolution to happen, the aspiring revolutionaries have to inflict casualties on the force opposing them to drop the qualifier of aspiring.
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: They were.
BingoBoingo: MisterE: This is how actual revolutions happen, as opposed to the occupy wall street stuff where the only casualties are protesters who get brained by CS grenades.
MisterE: Ukraine's capital fell into the hands of the protesters Saturday morning. Without a shot fired, opposition units surrounded and took control of parliament, the Council of Ministers building and most important, the Presidential Administration ...
moiety: Bosnia and Guinea in there too
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Venezuala, Thailand, and Ukraine is like the perfect storm for chaos in can whore countries.
BingoBoingo: Oh, Kiev seems like it is on the market nao.
BingoBoingo: The saga of Thermos, explained by Bar Rescue http://www.spike.com/episodes/k2q25z/bar-rescue-the-blue-frog-sings-the-blues-season-1-ep-106
greenspan_fan: "A people that sells its own children is more condemnable than the buyer; this commerce demonstrates our superiority; he who gives himself a master was born to have one." -- Abraham Lincoln
bitcoinpete: Externalize the losing?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
bitcoinpete: Assuming BTC has another 99% to go
bitcoinpete: If you could call Bitcoin a technology, it would be the 3rd after Apple and Twitter that I was in the first 1%. Not on my CV, I swear
bitcoinpete: Then, iMac
BingoBoingo: Well to be fair, apple could have completely died anytime in the 90's
bitcoinpete: Just like they didn't get Apple in the late 90's and Twitter before the turn of the last decade
bitcoinpete: True. I'm glad I moved when I did. I look around at the "successful" people in my community and none of them are even close to getting it
bitcoinpete: Then I couldn't get enough and here I am
BingoBoingo: I hang out here because during the great fork of March 2013 people here made more sense than people in -dev did.
BingoBoingo: I made decent BTC through early 2013 abusing altcoins and betting, but seeing how fast shit was rising made the mistake of cashing out too readily because I wasn't as read in trilema as I could have been.
BingoBoingo: So late 2012 I started trying to get some without buying it (huge mistake when they were trading for $4-6)
BingoBoingo: I was lucky to come into the space when ASIC in general looked like scams but GPUs didn't look promising either.
BingoBoingo: I blog some too, but I've been neglecting the blog for two long (a few weeks)
bitcoinpete: So BingoBoingo what do you do with Bitcoin? Other than hang out with this gang
BingoBoingo: Swatted it and smashed it into the covers (only evidence it was a scorpion was the parts intact. Didn't completely wake up then, but... When I woke up I couldn't sit.
BingoBoingo: My introduction came though when I was going to Mizzou and one of those fuckers came into my apartment in the middle of summer while I was sleeping, and I guess I tried to swat it off my ass or something.
BingoBoingo: Missouri scorpions only present a problem in that they can live nearly anywhere. So 9999 times out of 10000 you can touch shit on the ground, but that one time... world of pain.
BingoBoingo: They leave a welt a lot bigger than any bee does, but they don't do anything life threatening.
BingoBoingo: The missouri scorpions aren't too bad though.
bitcoinpete: It's on the list, just not that high
BingoBoingo: The nice compromise that comes with being close to St Louis while still being on the Illinois side of the river is you get to be further from Chicago without having to deal with scorpions.
BingoBoingo: White trash, prisons everywhere. But Chicago so more prisons than other white trash regions.
BingoBoingo: I live in the 21st century's Australia.
BingoBoingo: Nah, the definition that Google should turn up first.
BingoBoingo: Seriously, if it wasn't for the electric line I would have taken down the rest of the thing myself, sunroom be damned.
BingoBoingo: I am rather poor at badminton, but I took a class in college, like most college classes it probably only served to make me worse at the pursuit.
bitcoinpete: The houseguests have departed and I'm back
Namworld: There's actually 10 countries in that list.
Namworld: Look at the 21 supported countries.
BingoBoingo: Oh, the lake better manage to get itseld up to 62 degree sometime this next month.
greenspan_fan: depends what kind of finish they're offering
mircea_popescu: omfgthere's a tumbler.
BingoBoingo: I don't think I've actualy shaved, rather than merely trimmed my face in the past year, but I have shaved my head probably 10 times more frequently than I have hard my hair trimmed.
asciilifeform: talented barbers: see the musical 'Sweeney Todd'
Duffer1: i'm sure it could be, but if you're not doing it yourself then it would be overlly expensive
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the amazing things i've learned in this place.
greenspan_fan: I'd try using a straight razor but tv has made me think that they will peel off my face
BingoBoingo: Ah. Here we have Pacific farmed salmon and Atlantic mostly wild salmon. Usually though I prefer putting up with cooking to enjoy the local freshwater fish though.
Duffer1: remember the audience though, fatherless kids who think a 5 blade face mutilator is how to shave correctly cause tv said so
asciilifeform: yes. is there anyone here who has not shaved with this? i'm curious what is remarkable about it
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo this is farmed off the dalmatian coast.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I like that Salmon doesn't live long enough to accumulate the weird shit tuna does.
asciilifeform: why does the subject need a how-to ?
BingoBoingo: It is weird that salmon is one of the newest fish to be used as sashimi and served raw in suchi
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 i used to do that, i had a barber using a how you call the things, like a knife
asciilifeform: the general problem with eating shit for nutrition is...
greenspan_fan: the problem w/ reading reddit for self-improvement is, of course, sample bias
KRS-One: greenspan_fan: Stick with the sushi diet. Pretty soon we will see some pretty interesting sushi dishes due to Fukishima.
ozbot: A Man's Guide to Reddit | The Art of Manliness
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Also relevant to the people catching them. You can catch some large fish downstream from a wastewater treatment facility, but eating them...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no need to look it up, we know why all the boys on reddit sound like girls.
gribble: Water Pollution Caused by Birth Control Poses Dilemma | LiveScience: <http://www.livescience.com/20532-birth-control-water-pollution.html>; Sex effects of water pollution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_effects_of_water_pollution>; Declining Male Fertility Linked To Water Pollution -- ScienceDaily: (1 more message)
gribble: Are Birth Control Pills Changing Evolution? - ViewZone: <http://www.viewzone.com/estrogen.html>; Progesterone Won't Shield Women Against Alzheimer's - ABC News: <http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=4509571&page=1>; Powerpoint_24_13 - the Department of Animal Sciences: <http://www.ansci.wisc.edu/jjp1/ansci_repro/lec/lec_24_human/lec24_13.ppt>
asciilifeform: just the fact that a facility where a number of folks run winblows pisses crapware c&c packets through its net pipe the way the sewer outlet of a girl's dorm pisses progesterone (look it up...)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wasn't talking about browser 'user agent' data, either
mike_c: there is supposed to be a command with jam that will generate a VC workspace, but it didn't work.
mircea_popescu: i recall someone saying they run windows at some point
mike_c: anyways, i'm the boss :)
mike_c: will do, but that box is in the office so it won't be til monday.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'that scary moment when you google a word ... discover that as far as google knows, the only instances it was ever used are on your blog' << 'rectothermal'
mike_c: just ran it. got CS from the v0.0.1 bundle
mike_c: otherwise i would be crafting, not chatting :D
BingoBoingo: mike_c: No, they will sowly turn positive.
BingoBoingo: I think all of the incentives are to favor releasing unintelligent things.
mike_c: "there is no liquid derivative market for Bitcoin" only because of gox!
mircea_popescu: i don't remember the last time a bank released something intelligent.
BingoBoingo: Goldman offers non-answers and suggests problems that are actually well documented non-problems. Either the Janitor is answering questions or they don't want to admit they are buying coins.
lnovy: that my fatherland! yeah :)
mircea_popescu: the czech reslutsblic.
BingoBoingo: According to the Serena Williams principal I'm going to suggest an interesting sweat tomorrow might come from betting Sara McMann to beat Ronda Rousey, IF you can find an appropriate venue to do so (Sorry for dropping the ball on proposing a BitBet)
BingoBoingo: That, might be more painful than the sauce, because liquid is going to stimulate a bowel movement in short order. Probably before they can get a picture. Then it is done. A peeled pepper is going to get crushed by an anus and I imagine would linger longer than the sauce would have.
KRS-One: what do you think of the sphincter as a hole?
mircea_popescu: right. well... i guess you'll have to peel the peppers.
mircea_popescu: then again capsein is liposoluble isnt it
BingoBoingo: I know mircea_popescu suggested peppers, but with skin intact, much of the entertainment isn't going to leave the pepper.
BingoBoingo: What's the prevailing market rate for Buttcoins nao? 25 Gox BTC or 0.035 BTC sound right (price adjusted upward because writing implements are overdone, into the future buttchugging hotsauce is the new standard)
mircea_popescu: to the moon moon moon
taub: whats the latest update with gox?
ozbot: Argentina’s black market for hard cash: Buenos Aires deliverymen will bring the currency you need.
lnovy: there's a goxcoin now... and I'm hodling that... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=481185.0
mircea_popescu: let us conclude this is not trolling now and then be butthurt later
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete "at the alters " < altars.
mircea_popescu: that scary moment when you google a word that you know means ho and you discover that as far as google knows, the only instances it was ever used are on your blog.
Duffer1: " I can’t separate out the signal when there’s that much noise." i had that exact conclusion a couple months ago
bitcoinpete: The single post, hot off the press, is quite relevant to #bitcoin-assets, or at least referenced
bitcoinpete: Seemed like the thing to do
pankkake: there's a good mpoe-pr post about it
BingoBoingo: Bitbet is the best betting platform.
pankkake: not necessarily, you get the unlikely house bet to your name
pankkake: maybe one of my submitted bets will actually turn out to be the crazy option :)
pankkake: I'll just bitbet for the lulz
BingoBoingo: Patience is the game.
pankkake: well, I guess it depends on the gamble. I'd agree that most things gamblers and traders think as skill isn't
benkay: i just doubt i'd do much better than stochastic bouncing around, pankkake - much like gamblers or traders. up one day, down the next; cognitively biased against tracking returns etc. it's a goddamn emotional shitshow is what it is.
BingoBoingo: benkay: It's less learning how to gamble and more trying to spot pricing errors and finding patterns. One pattern I have found profitable is if betting against Serena Williams would multiply your bet by 12 or less in a certain match, there's prolly a fuckton of money to be had.
pankkake: by definition it should be, otherwise it isn't effective?
BingoBoingo: I really need to start paying more attention to MMA matchups. There's a decent fight tomorrow and I totally missed the chance to submit a Bitbet.
kakobrekla: they brought forex to bitcoin or something remember
Duffer1: is it that vault of satoshi thing the redditers are talking about?
pankkake: which is the exchange in question?
kakobrekla: they will suffer.
mircea_popescu: starting with the "forum bankers" listing pirate "securities" on glbse
mircea_popescu: otherwise the arguments presented could have been presented by any scam to date, and in fact were so presented
pankkake: the mistake is to take litecoin as "serious"
mircea_popescu: the reason a serious exchange does not want to offer a scam is contained in the expression "serious exchange"
kakobrekla: Whatever may be said against dogecoin, the fact is that it has gained traction very rapidly and become a very serious coin for trading. Why wouldn't a serious exchange want to offer it? We are after all in the trading business.
kakobrekla: So a "serious" exchange only offers "serious" coins? By what criteria does a coin count as serious? The answer to this question is bound to be controversial, but note that dogecoin has:
benkay: ultimately we come back to the personal responsibility thing
mircea_popescu: tho one could fill a hard-drive with the drivel of the various speculators who knew shit on the topic at the time(s)
MisterE: yea I was banned from #bitcoin the day doge launched for saying "it will be disruptive"
mircea_popescu: MisterE you know there's a lot of people with no bitcoins because they decided they will buy if it goes under X and it never did.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw if it wasn;t obvious, base 10 because of the exaflops.
asciilifeform: there ya go
mircea_popescu: i think they have aes-256 nao tho
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> also afaik aes-128 is something to the tune of 10^40 ? // what do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: also afaik aes-128 is something to the tune of 10^40 ?
mircea_popescu: . Recently, our classified NSA Oak Ridge facility made a stunning breakthrough that is leading us on a path towards building the first exaflop machine (1 quintillion instructions per second) by 2018. This will give us the capability to break the AES-128 encryption key
asciilifeform: quite a few of these are works of art.
mircea_popescu: it would seem to me it's not possible for both snaps to represent the same solid.
mircea_popescu: the silo + 9 tanks 1st picture is not contradicted by the silo + 9 tanks last picture in that scroll ?
asciilifeform: (seriously. mormon church issues them under signature.)
mircea_popescu: ahaha it just occured to me... do the utah nsa people wear special blessed underwear ?
mircea_popescu: "Alienation of Affections and Criminal Conversation lawsuits are allowed in North Carolina to preserve the sanctity of marriage and the institution of the family. It is estimated that over 200 alienation of affection cases are filed in North Carolina each year."
mircea_popescu: but i would propose there is a difference between the people who have a problem with their gender,
mircea_popescu: (l conway is actually quoted by name as the reason i can't quite declare transsexualism out of this world, in my article about transsexualism)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's this craig woods character which became kate, and had been running all sorts of projects and whatnot
pankkake: http://trilema.com/2014/on-periphery-and-the-peripheral-ephemerides-are-also-mentioned/ perhaps
mircea_popescu: or is it more like "ladies of wallstreet" consisting of the barristas and hooters waitresses ?
asciilifeform: the turd is unremarkable; quite like the usual winblows rootkit, except for the fact of 1) ships in stock bios on most x86 laptops and 2) c&c servers eschew authentication or crypto (!)
mircea_popescu: pankkake yeah i think you may be right, there is something to this sculpting communities theory.
asciilifeform: i actually sat on a jury some years ago in a case where 'computrace' was the evidence.
mircea_popescu: "This report is a return to the problem of security mechanisms implemented in modern anti-theft technologies that reside in firmware and PC BIOS of commonly used laptops and some desktop computers."
mircea_popescu: @Mircea_Popescu @ligayaya @nrrrdcore Of course you don't think so. Oppressors honestly think they're just being nice.
asciilifeform: esp. since it is possible to refuse VirusOS today - vs. then
nubbins`: they did mention audio was borked, didn't think it was a breaking problem tho
nubbins`: i'm compiling CS from the latest snapshot
mike_c: i can pastebin it, but i don't believe it is modified from the download bundle (if you have that)
mike_c: obviously i don't have the game working though.
mike_c: i did. a large config file for the updater.
nubbins`: did you examine the xml file listed?
nubbins`: mike_c: haven't had much time to look at it the past few days. having some issues getting crystalspace up and running
nubbins`: "In order to ensure there is no inappropriate language in any demand letter sent to the alleged infringers, the draft demand letter will be provided to the court for review," Aalto wrote. "Any correspondence sent by Voltage to any subscriber shall clearly state in bold type that no court has yet made a determination that such subscriber has infringed or is liable in any way for payment of damages."
nubbins`: "[Judge] Aalto ordered that before Voltage can send a letter to the alleged downloaders, it must return to court to get the wording of its communications cleared by a case management judge."
ThickAsThieves: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/02/21/280730201/enterprising-girl-scout-sells-cookies-outside-marijuana-clinic?utm_content=socialflow&utm_campaign=nprfacebook&utm_source=npr&utm_medium=facebook
jborkl: Anyone want to buy Google Glass for BTC- I have not ordered them yet so you can pick out color style
greenspan_fan: interestingly, you might be able to hijack a shipment of fpgas or asics, which would make for the nerdiest heist movie in history
asciilifeform: neither is mooching cpu cycles from employer
asciilifeform: they just buy a ride from professional spammers
KRS-One: When the hell is he getting back here with my porn
greenspan_fan: it's funny, because I was thinking of using a supercomputer to mine dogecoin, but decided not to because the idea was idiotic on many levels
dub: the yoga
kakobrekla: did you do yoga or did you do the instructors?
nubbins`: might do it anyway tho, we use these nice shirts now that have easy-tear tags
nubbins`: people almost invariably choose the appearance
nubbins`: honestly, given the choice between being "eco-friendly" and giving the appearance of it while being the opposite
nubbins`: idly considered buying regular cotton tank tops and sewing a 1" organic cotton seam on the bottom
nubbins`: so instead of getting regular cotton tanks shipped from the next province over, we order 6.25% organic tanks shipped from the exact opposide end of the continent
nubbins`: she wanted organic racerback-style tank tops. such a thing does not exist. the closest we could find was tanks with 6.25% organic cotton
nubbins`: if she's not here by 4:00pm exactly, i am literally not answering the door when she arrives