mircea_popescu: the argument is strong and well made, but not by them and not by their fucktarded infographic or w/e that thing is
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Everything, it is the coindesk way
mircea_popescu: link is there, "o derp, bitcoin is the greatest asset class in the histopry of business"
ThickAsThieves: what did they rip?
mircea_popescu: the derpage coming out of that thing is almost like bitcoin magazine runs it.
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> i have no idea why people continue doing it. must be a mental disorder on the management side. /// marketeers are persuasive, it's their job
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why people continue doing it. must be a mental disorder on the management side.
mircea_popescu: and the userbase liked it.
BingoBoingo: So, less than 10% of slashdot users are using the new layout
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you missed the huge argument with anil dash coupla days ago ?
mircea_popescu: i abandoned it cca 2012 cause they made it js-unusable.
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438708150469132288 <<< lettuce bother them.
ozbot: Scientists Discover a New State of Matter in the Last Place You’d Ever Think to Look | TheBlaze.co
mircea_popescu: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/26/scientists-discover-a-new-state-of-matter-in-the-last-place-youd-ever-think-to-look/
Duffer1: synesthesia read actm, smell poop
pankkake: I wonder if the UI is just a photoshop thing for now
ThickAsThieves: "Having only one currency that can be used for betting makes bet-matching simpler and easier (and more likely). The currency for making bets cannot be BTC, because the Counterparty protocol cannot debit BTC from a user’s address."
mircea_popescu: and really as entry level bureaucrats... how smart can they be ?
nubbins`: twist: GCHQ stole pdf from gox and leaked it via their agent selkis
pankkake: the schneier proposal was so… tame. almost sounded like politicians creating commissions to solve problems
ozbot: How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations - The Inte
nubbins`: almost the longest
mircea_popescu: russia is very badly landlocked, they can't survive without ports.
Duffer1: i don't see why they would do that unless they're planning an invasion or reinstallation of Yanuk
mircea_popescu: because this is how the internet works now.
cazalla: heh Invasion day, that's what they call Australia Day although I prefer to call it Conquerors Day
ozbot: Bay of Pigs Invasion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
cazalla: at least in the aus bank case
mircea_popescu: in the very lucrative heroin trade ?
cazalla: lead to that after reading the CIA rumoured to have run a bank here in Australia
cazalla: I'm reading this ATM - http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Politics-Heroin-Complicity-Afghanistan/dp/1556524838
Duffer1: dunno if they had tanks..
ozbot: Bay of Pigs Invasion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Duffer1: mircea_popescu@Mircea_Popescu This is pretty well equally true of the US. >>> Cuba is a great example to offer
Duffer1: "Kremlin's jealous & intolerant eye can distinguish only vassals & enemies; neighbors, if they dont wish 2 be one, must be the other-Kennan
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if they're all women or something.
mircea_popescu: like you know, having your idiocy made a point of public mockery in the forum is immediate license to disengage and pretent like you were slighted
mircea_popescu: @Mircea_Popescu Yes, it borders on the US province of Iraq. You may wish to drop the weasel act, we're adults, we can see through bs.
mircea_popescu: @SpiegelPeter Is Syria a neighbour of the US? You may want to re-read original Kennan quote.
nubbins`: he doesn't recall the usa and canada being at war?
mircea_popescu: @Mircea_Popescu This is pretty well equally true of the US. The EU is one of the few sane players and the US press is slamming them for it
mircea_popescu: @SpiegelPeter · 2h "Kremlin's jealous & intolerant eye can distinguish only vassals & enemies; neighbors, if they dont wish 2 be one, must be the other-Kennan
mircea_popescu: well obviously all the nonsense barrage was destined to help them fuck some more noobs over.
mircea_popescu: like say the misadventures of those pretend-gambling guys mpoe-pr laid into a week ago
mircea_popescu: i hope shrem hit him over the head because had he stfu i'd have not said anything either.
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438181014784204800 a no, he's the "o noes shrem guy"
nubbins`: parts of the bible are factual.
cazalla: but parts of the document are factual nubbins`
nubbins`: mircea_popescu that's why the whole thing is so curious
cazalla: the re-branding etc, shrem confirmed he knew of this weeks ago
nubbins`: what do you mean, gave? the numbers don't even add up
cazalla: if it was fake, who gave him the legit information to mix with his bs?
nubbins`: of course none of the news articles mentioning selkis talk about this
mircea_popescu: so this guy is going to be forever remembered as the pdf highlights tard ?
nubbins`: because it says so in the file
mircea_popescu: how do you know he added them ?
cazalla: maybe he was asked to redact it by whoever gave it to him to leak because if it was given to potential investors, they might not want the financials out there
mircea_popescu: nubbins` point in case as to the "we don't deserve to run a business" thing
nubbins`: black highlights added to the pdf by selkis himself
mircea_popescu: not proposing any of the foregoing as factual or anything, merely exploring teh theory of it.
mircea_popescu: or a bunch of other bitcoin "businesses" ?
cazalla: yes but shrem and levine from LTB confirmed they knew some of what is in the pdf is factual prior to it being leaked
nubbins`: just so happens that he faked the doc at a time when everybody was ready to accept a poor fake as legit
nubbins`: wanted to make a name for himself, and it worked. associated press splashed his name across the globe
nubbins`: "In the chat, Karpeles says the leaked document was not produced by Mt. Gox, but he admits that there is some truth to it."
mircea_popescu: four is an odd number of arms for a man to have, the only both odd and even number is infinity
mircea_popescu: the thought process being, napoleon was a great general, great generals are forewarned, being forewarned is like having an extra pair of arms,
mircea_popescu: they let it run overnight, among the conclusions it had arrived to by morning was "napoleon had an infinite number of arms"
mircea_popescu: "at mit, they made this self-learning machine which would try to make deductions sylogistically on a dictionary of natural language constructs
mircea_popescu: nubbins` btw, you know the "great generals" machine learning fiasco ?
mircea_popescu: ergo, women walk on their tits.
nubbins`: i had to leave the room D;
nubbins`: one day (this was a logic course), the poor guy (ancient chinese man) was dreaming up an example for some logical fallacy
mircea_popescu: the rector guy was like "if you can't speak you can't be a university professor."
mircea_popescu: at the one uni where i sort-of flirted with academia, this was banned on campus.
mircea_popescu: all the guy ever does is derp about in the conference freakshow, you'd expect he has at least the basics of that profession down pat.
mircea_popescu: ima order the MP css dept make me one.
nubbins`: the kitten got turned off ;(
mircea_popescu: i don't actually hate the guy, i just dislike him because he's very inept strategically and we kinda need to purge the stupid.
cazalla: on a panel, he ruined it because he had the microphone practically in his mouth and you couldn't hear the other panelists due to his heavy breathing
Bugpowder: CoinLab was more mismanaged than Gox, they just died earlier so they couldn't cause as big a monetary fuckup.
mircea_popescu: take it as a measure of just how badly hurt the foundation scamnest is by this defeat in the field
Bugpowder: I am really impressed with the level of optimism people are expressing towards Gox reopening. IMPRESSED. I hear there are 3 suitors vying for the right to purchase Mt. Gox's brand and 650,000 BTC debt.
cazalla: the one that could jump airgapped systems?
ozbot: First contagious WiFi computer virus goes airborne | The Daily Caller
chetty: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/25/first-contagious-wifi-computer-virus-goes-airborne-spreads-like-the-common-cold/
mircea_popescu: ie, the exactly opposite of doing something useful.
mircea_popescu: i mean work in the sense of being in a constrained space with a bunch of idiots where you gotta watch what's on your screen
mircea_popescu: well no i don't mean work in the sense of doing something useful
Bugpowder: All the fucking time
adrrrr: "it" is the transaction
adrrrr: dexX7: so it will create the public key?
dexX7: you don't need the privkey, simply send it to whateveraddress+checksum
adrrrr: dexX7: what are these vanity adress, I thought we can choose only few characters
dexX7: luckily there is www.blockr.io now
Duffer1: the blockchain is down!1234
Namworld: I have a mix of letters, numbers and special chars. Strangely enough, I don't seem to have a problem remembering most of them.
ThickAsThieves: (the yellow text black bg page)
bit14: looks like this guy was/is the owner
ozbot: View the profile of lightbox
Namworld: The old owner, Topace, was Canadian I think. Now it moved. Where the staff is located, I do not know.
bit14: it's 5am in panama, so maybe they're just asleep, crossing fingers
Duffer1: odd timing for server issues, i wonder if they held reserves at gox
bit14: company could be registered there, but staff might be elsewhere
bit14: The Panama Fund, S.A
Duffer1: they were based in canada during the acquisition, no idea if the principles/office/servers have moved though
wao-ender: "Database seems down. Sorry about that. We've been notified about the problem. Please try again later.
bit14: I assume they didn't run and it's early AM in canada, but still
BingoBoingo: Slashdot has denied me for hours, but they cannot do so indefinitely
bitcoinpete: off to brussels in the morning. cheers for now
bit14: have you seen the log
BingoBoingo: If that were a pharm student not quite one I'd get fired over, but still one I'd offer salt to to melt their ice
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net. Trust relationship from user bitcoinpete to user bitcoinpete: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=bitcoinpete&dest=bitcoinpete | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoinpete | Rated since: never
BingoBoingo: OH, it was such a shithole, but not being from missouti made the sex so easy
mircea_popescu: the sex is great.
BingoBoingo: Just couldn't do the pharm students.
BingoBoingo: i TA's for pharmacy school so undergrads were in bounds, other grad students were inbounds.
BingoBoingo: The sex was great
mircea_popescu: the sex any good at least ?
BingoBoingo: I still have trouble believing I lived in the shithole next to this http://www.kshb.com/news/state/missouri/mizzou-investigating-cause-of-roof-walkway-collapse-at-apartment-building
BingoBoingo: I still reload slashdot compulsively for the money
gribble: Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user bitcoinpete with key 165749929F9A6BDD
BingoBoingo: bit14: No idea Maybe they are dying too?
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: During one of my grad school stints I lived in the super mega ghetto http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/local/columbia-firefighter-dies-working-at-scene-of-walkway-collapse/article_fc7f1992-9bca-11e3-9d9e-0017a43b2370.html
gribble: (register <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
gribble: (register <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
bitcoinpete: Do any of the -asseters live in Brussels or London by chance? I'm heading to Brussels tomorrow and London by the weekend. Have some free time
BingoBoingo: Of the sort where painting on Staph Aureus and hoping for the best seems like a sheat from heaven.
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: indeed any culture platter they can own enough to make their genetic markers known.
mircea_popescu: generaly pseudomonas sp is a good bet for BingoBoingo's purposes cause they're pretty metabolically diverse.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : pseudomonas putida is the first living thing that was "patented" according to the us courts.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is a long shot, but it fits the armpit environment well as a genus
nubbins`: MisterE: hey, she owns all the bitcoins
MisterE: lol I like how he incudes the wife
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, wife and 2 others
nubbins`: as if we'd just leave it there for 10 hours
nubbins`: speaking of smells of the human body, one of my roommates took a shit this morning and left a streak on the toilet seat
MisterE: one of the worst run was a girl who accidentally blew half her boyfriend's head off with a .44 at a shooting range, was totally prepared for smell
BingoBoingo: I dun want to fight credentials, but it look's like there are already two candidate sinuses
MisterE: nubbins`: that's nothing, when I had to do my prctical training hours I helped to drain a lot of cysts and some produce by the liter
mircea_popescu: lots and lots of further opportunities for maturity
MisterE: in the US
BingoBoingo: Maybe irritation, but definitely inflamed more than the prominence of the humerous calls for
nubbins`: when it finally got drained there was like a shot glass full of stuff pulled out of it
MisterE: mircea_popescu: ime most people are dumb until proven otherwise
BingoBoingo: Left armpit, the purple prominence
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo where's the cyst ?
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you say the 2nd is much worse a failure ?
mircea_popescu: are these people actually dumb ?
mircea_popescu: doesn't the observation that "soo... if i had been watching you since 2012 i'd have seen nothing ?" come to them at all ?
mircea_popescu: i wonder what the thought process is when some chick ends up putting on her 2 line resume "i was a X to watch in 2102"
BingoBoingo: On that last .bait I see tits, but there is also a screaming cyst that needs lanced and dranied
BingoBoingo: Depends on which laws and the context
chetty: idiots think man can overrule nature with their 'laws'
mircea_popescu: basically the consensus of idiots in fiat is that somehow magically the laws of nature have been cancelled for the sake of convenience.
mircea_popescu: "Its tempting to dismiss the decision as incomprehensible legalese or the inability of justices to understand that contemporary financial systems rely on a powerful lender or dealer of last resort to weather financial crises."
nubbins`: no sense trying to bring a totally different toolchain into the mix
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you ever found the problem or just nonspecific kludge ?
BingoBoingo: The right answer is obvious, but betting agaisnt it can't pay
Jere_Jones: I found building CS to be the easy part.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I am starting this baseball betting venture with one hundredth of a bitcoin. Remember that I can not help it if appreciation makes the logistics you dislike a reality.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell chatquack I put you in the WOT start blogging already
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete you should get into the wot and remind me to put you in the bloglist sometime.
asciilifeform: channelling herr naggum: 'It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an inspiration to future authors.'
mircea_popescu: basically, they had a good idea, got too much resources, fucked up.
mircea_popescu: n, and turn it any way you please theres not going to be room for deplyoing a hundred billion in capital for the purpose of arbitraging minute differences between the 29 y T and the current T. There just cant be.
mircea_popescu: as explained in http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/ : "LTCM collected over one billion dollars in capital. If youve been following up to here you probably have a question in your mind : what in the world were they going to do with a billion of their own money ? Good question. The fund had access to heavy leverage, as high as 100:1 in many cases. One billion leveraged 100:1 means one hundred billio
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Any sporting analogy is best as a baseball analogy, the greatest precision is there. Even if the metric is love of the cunts
mircea_popescu: course in a sense nsa as it is stands in a relation to nsa-as-thus-described about roughly as that merry bunch of Meriwether's thieves stood with THEIR sensible value proposition
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is the core and the whole of nsa's value proposition : people sign, subtly, but definitely, what they do.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ironically... relics ? scavenger world ? thermodynamically doomed ?
asciilifeform: thermodynamically doomed
ozbot: A compendium of basic points about Bitcoin for the benefit of various confused noobs. pe Trilema - U
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/a-compendium-of-basic-points-about-bitcoin-for-the-benefit-of-various-confused-noobs/#footnote_0_52959 << added that which i regret i forgot on the first pass
BingoBoingo: I am the wheel, you seriously don't want to deal with me. You need to reinvent me.
nubbins`: "hey, why reinvent the wheel?"
asciilifeform: or just the usual 'work is too much like work, let's crib it all'
asciilifeform: was the cribbed source even interesting in some way?
BingoBoingo: The problem is a need for time machines
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason i always encourage people to read the history is quite this : endlessly fascinatingly amusing thing.
asciilifeform: perhaps these folks belong in a large glass jar. where they are to feed upon one another, and the last one remaining to be extracted and will perhaps be good for something.
BingoBoingo: At least New Zealand tries to earn the money back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlcIKh6sBtc
mircea_popescu: for the obvious reasons.
mircea_popescu: to the tune of i forged, but 10's of k's of btc
mircea_popescu: which is currently the only asset some new zealand executor has to try and repay the creditors
BingoBoingo: The mysterious antiques dealer
mircea_popescu: and in no case was he authorised to "make open source" the codebase
mircea_popescu: they were (illegally) leaked by amir taaki, who in he process exposed sensitive passwords
mircea_popescu: bitfinex (the thing which now is misreported as > 30% of the bitcoin average usd price)
asciilifeform: and if so, why weren't the obligatory logic bombs set off
asciilifeform: did some chump really build a whatever-the-fuck with a set of leaked sources?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this probably wasn't the purpose of 'compendium of basic points...,' but now i'm marvelling over the ancient forum garbage
bitcoinpete: Been a few, but I've been up on the logs
mircea_popescu: mart specifically refers to the loss in backgammon when you lose without having taken out any of your own pieces.
mircea_popescu: "there are waiters who, from all they've heard from conversations and debates of intellectuals, could put away a university professor, especially should they proceed quickly"
BingoBoingo: I mean unless @magicaltux does the manual sorting
BingoBoingo: The april 2013 trilema article on GOx is about to make slashdot frontpage.
nubbins`: actually got eulora compiled! but forgot to install a ton of required crystalspace libraries... so didn't get much other than a white screen with "welcome to eulora 0.0.4"
ozbot: A compendium of basic points about Bitcoin for the benefit of various confused noobs. pe Trilema - U
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/a-compendium-of-basic-points-about-bitcoin-for-the-benefit-of-various-confused-noobs/
MisterE: and update on the /. front?
asciilifeform: 'Effective immediately, we are discontinuing all breathing pending an atmospheric gas review. At this time we are unsure when, and if we will resume breathing in the future.'
mircea_popescu: guess the venue.
mircea_popescu: "Effective immediately, we are discontinuing all business operations pending a business model review. At this time we are unsure when, and if we will resume operations in the future."
asciilifeform: ;;rate MagicalTux -10 pathetic Judas Goat.
BingoBoingo: Well, one thing I remember vividly from undergrad is that the nepali students were some of the chillest people on campus, but woe unto the football player who took a fancy to a Nepali girl and was then introduced to a cricket bat.