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ThickAsThieves: neo has already committed to professionally prepared quarterly financial reports, so assuming they follow-through, the IPO funds *should* be accounted for
mircea_popescu: i've not followed it either. how do they look ?
ThickAsThieves: it's 9mo-old gossip that lasted a few hours due to having the same name
Duffer1: i haven't kept up with the gossip
ThickAsThieves: they dont even look alike
ThickAsThieves: yknow the whole coma Danny B was already covered here
ozbot: Calling out the premier scam on Havelock at the moment
Duffer1: did TaT not vet the NEO principles?
Duffer1: "I’m not sure what the implication is here, perhaps that he should be receiving his information from Wikileaks, like the rest of us ? "
mircea_popescu: buffet on the topic of "god forbid the free market works"
mircea_popescu: If, however, costs and prices are determined by full-bore competition, there is more than ample capacity, and the buyer cares little about whose product or distribution services he uses, industry economics are almost certain to be unexciting. They may well be disastrous."
mircea_popescu: administered in some manner and thereby insulated at least partially from normal market forces. This administration can be carried out (a) legally through government intervention (until recently, this category included pricing for truckers and deposit costs for financial institutions), (b) illegally through collusion, or (c) “extra-legally” through OPEC-style foreign cartelization (with tag-along benefits for dom
mircea_popescu: "To understand the change, we need to look at some major factors that affect levels of corporate profitability generally. Businesses in industries with both substantial over-capacity and a “commodity” product (undifferentiated in any customer-important way by factors such as performance, appearance, service support, etc.) are prime candidates for profit troubles. These may be escaped, true, if prices or costs are
Duffer1: spring is upon us, the new field of retards will need another month at least to grow
kakobrekla: last page,.. even the retards are starting to get it, amazing.
mircea_popescu: also would be nice to get a read as to whether danny webster is an uneducated welder from Leicestershire who tends to get involved in street fights. his subnormal mug certainly supports that theory.
mircea_popescu: we're not on the 1st of february, nor are we on the first of march, nor are we living in the alternative world where craig woods is a businesswoman or danny webster a ceo.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile a 23yo fuckwith stated that "The public facing websites are being tied into the advertising campaign which starts on 1st Feb. If you have concerns about me then so be it, if you would also like me to spend my time delivering updates then just say, however I do look forward to proving posts like these wrong."
mircea_popescu: so to this day if i google "neobee" i get 1st a havelock link and 2nd a webmail account for neobee.net, then reddit and btctalk pages.
mircea_popescu: where do you bury them all.
kakobrekla: another day or two and we will fuck up the states.
kakobrekla: was suppose to go in the other box.
mircea_popescu: or in george's gf's words, "Ha.Ha.Ha. ha...You don't have any money. I make more money than you do. ha. ha. ha. Yeah.. give me the papers I'll sign 'em.( she leaves) a pre-nup..."
mircea_popescu: themisescircle said so
mircea_popescu: i suppose ceramic armor plates on tanks don't shoot, either, and so it's immoral to spend military funds on armor plating research and deployment
bitcoinpete: "It is unethical to create an altcoin with the purpose of making money off of it for this reason. They should not be taken seriously."
bitcoinpete: "Altcoins are not viable because they cannot reproduce that which gives Bitcoin an overwhelming competitive edge: its market cap." Neglects that pre-mined recently that was actually useful developmentally for Bitcoin. Name escapes me...
mircea_popescu: these purists.
ozbot: The Coming Demise of the Altcoins (And What You Can Do to Hasten It)
bitcoinpete: Didn't know Ricciardo is Australian... He's 2nd on the grid.
bitcoinpete: And Lewey Hamilton is on pole at the first F1 race of the season
mircea_popescu: Mar 15 03:49:38 <bitcoinpete>;;later tell mircea_popescu: I should check out the film, I've only seen the mainstage production :)
bitcoinpete: 03:56:21 mircea_popescu:;;later tell bitcoinpete you've seen the mainstage production of tom green's freddie got fingered ?! that existed ?! >> What was this in reference to?
mircea_popescu: you mixing two articles together ?
mircea_popescu: the two seem unrelated ?
bitcoinpete: haha I'm still trying to figure out where you pulled the tom green bit from in the first place. I thought we were on the King & I. Or is Tom the Canadian King, and I Anna?
bitcoinpete: the adaptation of freddie got fingered, the mainstage production?
mircea_popescu: the what ?
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: I helped write the adaptation. Someone had to.
bitcoinpete: here, we're finally in the plusses and enjoying spring
bitcoinpete: Was in London last week too at the seat of the empire
cazalla: bitcoinpete: you're from canada, right? a brother in the commonwealth
cazalla: i guess lovely was the wrong word, it's more cozy with the storm coming over
gribble: The operation succeeded.
bitcoinpete: Most of the false flagging seems to be in oz right now, the no-longer-black-haired-bernie is back with penis-nosed motor racing
mircea_popescu: the false flag conpiracy theory is getting better and better hah
mircea_popescu: soo, the missing plane is placed between kazakhstan and turkmenistan now ?
mircea_popescu: none of the old infrastructure was usable, not really, towers is one thing copper is another and so on
mircea_popescu: joecool i guess there's a good point here, in the sense that the infrastructure is really old, phreakin did exist, what is one to do
joecool: asciilifeform: i mean the communication framework was setup in the early 30's
mircea_popescu: they wheeled in some ancient revolutionary bolshevik to praise the party.
mircea_popescu: someone did this as power moved from lenin to stalin but i don't recall who the fuck
mircea_popescu: hey, even sacred monsters a la buffett are reduced to teary eyed confessions of belief in the party, even at the zenith of their career/intellectual lucidity
asciilifeform: in the case of at&t and certain others, arguably earlier.
mircea_popescu: which is strctly command economy under another name
asciilifeform: they've been linked in this way since the war.
mircea_popescu: they've plainly confessed to it what with the "too big to fail" doctrine,
mircea_popescu: it's by now a mistake to see anything in the us command economy as meaningfully separate from anything else.
asciilifeform: the cliche 'privatize profits, public pays losses' is overused, but applies.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea who exactly would wish to live in a world where a company making a product asks any government what it thinks on the topic.
asciilifeform: the mandatory use of toy crypto in consumer telephony was blatant and entirely conspicuous.
mircea_popescu: so knowing that, let's build another whole industry on rotten basics
mircea_popescu: the whole banking system was well fucked, what with its odd notions of a cheque
joecool: gsm mitm is fairly easy with 2G technologies, the hardware isn't very expensive and the software is opensource
mircea_popescu: this is engineering these days.
asciilifeform: and certainly no serious authentication of 'this is a genuine tower'
asciilifeform: but is perfectly adequate for this other purpose.
gribble: IMSI-catcher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSI-catcher>; The body-worn “IMSI catcher” for all your covert phone snooping ...: <http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/the-body-worn-imsi-catcher-for-all-your-covert-phone-snooping-needs/>; Septier IMSI Catcher: <http://www.septier.com/146.html>
joecool: asciilifeform: there are a lot of standards to cover with a fake tower
asciilifeform: you can't buy this one from 'alibaba' but there it is.
asciilifeform: the most effective cell jammer doesn't simply piss out white noise, but emulates a functioning tower - one which happens to route calls into '/dev/null'
joecool: asciilifeform: cell jammers are also much more effective as they move away from towers
asciilifeform: you know, the same one that gets a magic packet and steers the flying coffin 1000km into the sea and then down.
mircea_popescu: did they ever get fitted with that in the end ?
asciilifeform: or, if you like exciting life, in the plane's own instrumentation.
mircea_popescu: and so they didn't. period.
mircea_popescu: then again... chinese people. someone probably told them not to use cell phones
chetty: they were over land there of a while
asciilifeform: chetty: not much cell service in the sea.
chetty: If that plane went on for hours why werent the people on board using cell phones?
mircea_popescu: rom entities to rules, it also lost the support of the people. There weren’t that many people burning American flags in 1860, you know ? Why do you think not ? You can support a government killing Indians, or bison. You can’t support a government fighting chemical compounds."
mircea_popescu: specifically, "As far as experience shows, people don’t tend to support states that either stupidly or unwittingly include rules among their enemies. You can’t win a war against math, or against drugs, or against “social injustice”, or “kulaks”. Soon after the Soviet government moved its focus from entities to rules, it lost the support of the people. Soon after the other-Soviet government moved its focus f
mircea_popescu: anyway, the statement of that point im happy with is in http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/
ozbot: News from The Associated Press
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell jborkl_ the point about "over regulate people" is vague, in that nobody, from obama to ayn rand, believe their activity is "over regulatory". indeed, all over regulators in history carefully consider the point of over regulation (in their own reference frame) and decide they're being reasonable.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell jborkl_ perhaps the oil painting example is weak, seeing how the artist would probably benefit from being physically present for the wedding.
ozbot: Let’s do the telegraph pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu the correct way to do 'hardware wallet is' -- well, why piss out out here. 'obvious to alert reader.'
asciilifeform: if you have an amulet of invincibility and the gods have informed you that you will never encounter a pwned pc, you need no exotic hardware.
asciilifeform: the whole point in taking the trouble to design a hardware gizmo
asciilifeform: attacker pwns the pc, you personally unlock the card, thinking you will do operation X, in actuality: Y.
asciilifeform: doesn't matter - you unlock the card, and it signs whatever kernel wants it to sign.
asciilifeform: yes, and hence the smartcard is garbage.
asciilifeform: joecool: this is a grave misconception. if pc can 'if XXX then hardware wallet is present' even once, you're fucked.
joecool: asciilifeform: i need to play with the yubikey neo implementation of bip32
asciilifeform: but tell the 'trezor' etc. folks that.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu if the pc can deterministically find that a hardware btc wallet | gpg apparatus | trng | etc is plugged in, owner is fucked.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu if the pc can deterministically find that a [hardware btc wallet | gpg apparatus | trng | etc] is plugged in, owner is fucked.
jborkl_: ok, Thank you for the input. I do appreciate it
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask ThickAsThieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves. Trust relationship from user joecool to user ThickAsThieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=joecool&dest=ThickAsThieves | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ThickAsThieves | Rated since: Sat Mar 2 11:19:18 2013
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask ThickAsThieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user ThickAsThieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=ThickAsThieves | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ThickAsThieves | Rated since: Sat Mar 2 11:19:18 2013
joecool: jborkl_: i figured US but writing is a little different than northeast
Duffer1: paste the OTP mesage into where you sign messages, copy the result, then come back and type ;;everify signedmessageresulthere
ThickAsThieves: I assume I do not save the OTP
ThickAsThieves: is the last part just to make sure it works both ways?
joecool: jborkl_: no glaring things wrong with the writing. a couple quotes missing and maybe some comma weirdness
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves open terminal, go "gpg" paste it there
Duffer1: it's the message you need to sign for ;;everify
mircea_popescu: you'll gotta read the docs
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i think there's a special command like addkey or somesuch
ThickAsThieves: and then i did a ;;changekey
moiety: "Tragically, he really thought he could be the West’s friend, failing to see that his own repressive policies made that impossible." errr since fucking when?
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps the best i've read on the topic, for any value of best equal "entertaining due to the propaganda dial being turned to such 11, the insanity of the whole process becomes obvious even to the casual observer resulting in an unintentional self-parody quality"
ozbot: Paranoia leads Vladimir Putin to the point of no return - Telegraph
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete you've seen the mainstage production of tom green's freddie got fingered ?! that existed ?!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: couple lesbians ordered him on craiglist (<<< lol) but they didn't follow proper procedure and home inseminated. therefore states says he's the daddy
moiety: did you see the sperm donor that is getting done for child support?
Duffer1: oh here's the fun part, in the US if you've cared for the child, then find out later it's not yours, family court will still likely find you liable for child support
moiety: the less*
moiety: christ the more i hear, thelss i like people
Duffer1: their target is 18 year old hillbillies who don't know any better, and have nothin better to do than join the army
joecool: moiety: apparently having cancer can cause them to flag positive
moiety: joecool: i thought they tested for oestrogen levels
Duffer1: so she wins no matter what unless the guy is actively aware of the scam and dumps her lyin ass before marriage
joecool: hm i remember some months back a guy pissed on one for the hell of it and it came back positive, turns out had testicular cancer
lnovy: or they are used to get money for "abortion"
lnovy: make me another :)
Duffer1: they're popular near military bases
MisterE: fucking pete with the blog and dates and life....
MisterE: they will be all over that
MisterE: do the Japs know about this?
MisterE: it's funny how you call the opposite or pregnant "clean" :p
lnovy: moiety: the drug test shows 2 lines when clean, 3 lines when under drugs... pregnancy show 1 for clean, 2 for pregnancy :)
moiety: lnovy:that's crazy about the test strips!
moiety: I haven't seen the film but ive seen a stage production of the king and i
bitcoinpete: What a scene. Brynner, such a pleasure to behold, has the most unbelievable poise and strength of movement. Not a single muscle fibre out of sorts.
ozbot: The King and I (1956 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
gribble: The operation succeeded.
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell mircea_popescu: I should check out the film, I've only seen the mainstage production :) I'm not sure how very strange my naiveté is. I'm less naive than I was 2 months ago, prior to the commencement of my IRC yeshiva, but hardly deserving of expectation. Either way, and as always, thx for reading and the feedback.You're like having a younger Taleb as a personal tutor...
lnovy: hehe.. when you switch a drug amphetamine test strip with pregnacy strip and the girl is clean, he will test pregnant :) And she can even show this before soon-to-be husband:) There a great bussiness in Poland with these...
cads: I just don't want to have to write a feature detector that needs to know about the global geometry at play... maybe I can train a feature detector that just detects the silhouette fingerprint of localized choppiness and other print failures.
cads: so something that convolves an energy impulse with the surface and then measures the scattering should be ideal.
cads: though I want something more stupid - surface quality is either flat and smooth and the printer can speed up, or the surface quality is blobby, choppy, with sparp peaks of plastic, and the head needs to slow down to 'heal' the print's next few layers.
ozbot: Watch Rep. Jared Polis Subject Cash to the Bitcoin-Regulation Test - Hit & Run : Reason.com
ThickAsThieves: bled dry and left for the rats
ThickAsThieves: Today, the US government gave up a major portion of its control over the day-to-day functions of the internet, as the US Department of Commerce announced it was giving up its oversight role over ICANN"
ThickAsThieves: lol WSJ has been making many typos lately "Weibo, Twitter’s China, Files for IPO in the U.S."
ThickAsThieves: I see the hint of instructions on how to change it, but not clear on whether it just replaces it
ThickAsThieves: can you have both a gpg and bitcoin registration in the same WoT listing?
BingoBoingo: tim-tams: Unstyled html lists and tables are the new marble columns and granite steps
BingoBoingo: tim-tams: Maybe that's the part that makes me a bit queasy
tim-tams: at least on the top
tim-tams: To me I always thought the design was badish and it was way too busy
mircea_popescu: dignork anyway, the honest answer is that i've greatly overstated what's likely happenstance to make an otherwise valid and much more general point.
ozbot: Canadian lawsuit to seek $500-million from Mt. Gox bitcoin exchange - The Globe and Mail
mircea_popescu: jurov so how's that look, is the guy winning or what ?
Apocalyptic: the Cardano ?
asciilifeform: turns out that the instrument i proposed for raping casascius coins is available commercially:
nubbins`: TWERKING BANNED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
nubbins`: from the club: "Due to the recent uproar caused by photos taken from our opening weekend, females [sic] patrons are advise [sic] of the following rule changes: 1) females are restricted from wearing clothes that expose more then 25 percent of there [sic] body. 2) exposure of breasts is strictly prohibited 3) the dance craze known as Twerking is banned until further notice. Other forms of dancing
asciilifeform: e.g. the late Sun
ozbot: Apple A6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform: they stamp out their own 'arm' clone now
mircea_popescu: apple aren't engineers, they're like yahoo. a media buying company.
asciilifeform: why a gizmo where the manufacturer controls the whole stack, silicon up, needs any prng at all, remains a mystery.
nubbins`: apparently it's worse than the old one.
nubbins`: interesting how they capitalize Good Samaritans
mircea_popescu: me either. but from reading this i can't imagine the woman under 200ish lbs
mircea_popescu: so basically in rothbard's reading, this rand character is the quintessential balabusta, a staid, obnoxious, overarching yet profoundly ignorant and puritanical fat old woman.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` supposedly this is how art evolves. mistakes end up baked in by their success.
ozbot: New MicroSoul coins for the masses 0.01
nubbins`: we usually buy skin-on salmon and it gums the fuck out of the pan
nubbins`: fish is the one thing that i dislike frying in cast iron
HeySteve: the first Diesel engine ran on peanut oil
ThickAsThieves: if they were lucky
mircea_popescu: it could be inspected in detail, his doom as a member of the movement was effectively sealed."
mircea_popescu: information and after spending a sleepless night, the girl rushed to inform the top leadership of this terrible transgression. Promptly, the leading participants were called on the carpet by their Objectivist Psychotherapist and bitterly denounced in their "therapy" sessions: "After all," said the therapist, "you wouldn’t mock God." When the owner of the tape refused the therapist’s demand to relinquish it so that
mircea_popescu: "Driven by their conception of rational duty, every Randian lived in – and indeed was himself – a community of spies and informers, ready to ferret out and denounce any deviations from Randian doctrine. Thus, one time a Randian, walking with a girl friend, told her that he had attended a party at which several Randians had made an impromptu tape imitating the voices of the top Randian leaders. Stricken by this dire
mircea_popescu: which you know, is what the economy of the bankrupt world degenerated into, the economy of views. of which unit of account is one "mom look at me! mom look! mo-om!"
mircea_popescu: in this case, the cool community of haxxorz.
mircea_popescu: it yields the illusion of being "part of the community"
ThickAsThieves: see the latest in whose advertising and what Erik has to say
asciilifeform: the real lul is that this trick almost never yields any detectable coin
ThickAsThieves: i imagine many were saved merely cuz they downloaded it to their phones
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves someone was saying a few days ago about all the bitching that thing caused in ##mtgox
mircea_popescu: but why, they'll make an electric carbit license.
mircea_popescu: notrly, let enough do that then slap a surcharge on them
ThickAsThieves: so people buy their Tesla in a surrounding state
mircea_popescu: chris christie wants to protect his career, he can't piss off the larger players
ThickAsThieves: the more the better!
ThickAsThieves: but isnt this about whats in the interest of the consumer?
mircea_popescu: but the middle man makes some money, of which it pays some money.
ThickAsThieves: the concept of disallowing direct sales anywhere is what is boggling me
ThickAsThieves: these articles only speak of cutting out middle men and new franchise license requirements
mircea_popescu: then they could charge for them
ThickAsThieves: maybe these articles should lead with that
mircea_popescu: i think they were exploiting a loophole
mircea_popescu: nj wants to extract taxes out of the deal. if nj people get hurt, nj wants to profit at least.
asciilifeform: if i recall, there were fuses between the smaller cells of which the battery was built.
nubbins`: the future is dangerous to middlemen too
mircea_popescu: the one ton ion battery on wheels.
asciilifeform: the electromobile firm? or some other tesla
mircea_popescu: yes. they're fucking dangerous.
ThickAsThieves: is there an angle that isnt ridiculous?
mircea_popescu: "In a development eerily reminiscent of the organized hatred directed against the arch-heretic Emanuel Goldstein in Orwell’s 1984, Rand cultists were required to sign a loyalty oath to Rand; essential to the loyalty oath was a declaration that the signer would henceforth never read any future works of the apostate and arch-heretic Branden."
mircea_popescu: open source infallibility, the notion that wikipedia is in any sense an encyclopedia, everyone's obsession with crowd-sourcing and usg...
mircea_popescu: people firmly believe that codebases magically improve just by adding to them the *possibility* that someone might have read them
mircea_popescu: amusingly, this is narrowly mirrored by the all too fashionable ideea these days that there's some sort of wisdo min the crowds.
mircea_popescu: g.... The party itself never makes mistakes."
mircea_popescu: "Lenin seems to have believed that the party, as organized consciousness, consciousness as a decision-making machinery, had superior reasoning power. Indeed, in time this collective body took on an aura of infallibility, which was later elevated to a dogma, and a member’s loyalty was tested, in part, by his acceptance of it. It became part of the communist confession of faith to proclaim that the party was never wron
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete ah i see it's in the footnote. but yeah, the select from a page process is very dubious (natural languages don't have equally distributed words, it's actually how zipf curves were discovered in the first palce)
nubbins`: or buy one on ebay from a rube who never bothered to learn how to use it
nubbins`: you gotta do all the legwork yourself
nubbins`: shamefully, it's impossible to buy a proper cast iron pan (i.e. one with a machined bottom) these days
nubbins`: it SLID off the fucking pan onto the plate.
nubbins`: i was in awe the first time i saw someone cook an omelette on cast iron
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete bt otherwise your article suffers from a very strangely naive approach. ever heard of a dicelist ?
mircea_popescu: you can never get the shrimp properly cooked other than in a cast iron pot.
nubbins`: teflon and other non-stick coatings are the biggest con
nubbins`: anyone who spent any amount of time writing java is likely familiar with the site; few realize the guy who runs it is a real simple-living guy
mircea_popescu: i have a pot too. they're good for many things.
nubbins`: it's funny, the guy who runs javaranch.com (a friendly place for greenhorns!) turned me onto cast iron
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ThickAsThieves: goog keeps saying theyre gonna split
nubbins`: deep frying in the home is fuckin gross
ThickAsThieves: other than that 1 week
ThickAsThieves: Sony always flirting with being known for quality, then always fucking it up by being weird
mircea_popescu: pLambert well yeah, but still. what's the average dividend across nyse index, 1950 to 1970 ?
pLambert: says the guy who has the best track record of paying divs in bitcoins?
asciilifeform: i find it strange that people would skimp on a device that they stare at for 12+ hrs/day.
nubbins`: i guess i'm not the only person who noticed topace/lightbox on that gox list
pLambert: is there a list somewhere of api commands?

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