benkay: bathe in the sweet sterilizing rays of non-dilutable currency
benkay: breathe the hard vacuum of bitcoin
benkay: i want to see an illustration of vexual on the internet by accident
benkay: #49 is one of the better ones
benkay: what phone book of actual use story memos did you miss?
benkay: people just run java web apps all the time
benkay: yeah man
benkay: this is a stupid discussion.
benkay: in any event
benkay: so then client relations - i want to demo a thing with the UX flow a client spent an ungodly amount of money on. i'm not going to ruin my demo with my personal settings.
benkay: isolate isolate isolate
benkay: they always want to do crazy shit to the dom.
benkay: mystery browser plugins are a source of indeterminacy.
benkay: i have learned the hard way to remove sources of indeterminacy from my stack
benkay: not programming.
benkay: language is poetry.
benkay: you have obviously spent much time debugging legacy javascript
benkay: ho ho ho ho ho
benkay: oh
benkay: hahaha
benkay: congratulations, you obviously don't operate in derpy web application zone land.
benkay: jesus twitter
benkay: herbijudlestoids if you ever link an autoplaying video again i will straight murder your face
benkay: well on an entirely different topic
benkay: BingoBoingo: do you use a dedicated bitbet address?
benkay: BingoBoingo ^^
benkay: i'm nowhere near enough of a lisper to catch your ref, B
benkay: your 15 minutes of fame have passed, BingoBoingo.
benkay: we're all security people now.
benkay: except we've seen coins get diff-pinned before.
benkay: and down.
benkay: up...
benkay: and down.
benkay: up...
benkay: but you do take coin in the kiester!
benkay: i like being a part of a family story in a physical location that's endured for a little bit.
benkay: no its great nubbins
benkay: so i actually moved back into the neighborhood in which i grew up.
benkay: the kids need computers to just have sex these days
benkay: BingoBoingo: have you heard of Tinder?
benkay: they even got the grammar correct my my
benkay: can't say as i agree, mp. before i was limited pretty solidly on increasing revenue. nowadays, i'm only limited on revenue by my ability to find work and people to do it.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay splendid stragety.
benkay: and if ironic what precisely the message is
benkay: mircea_popescu: can't tell if sarcasm or irony
benkay: was totally planning to, but then i dropped the well-paid infotech work to do the same thing with good friends for clients paying a third
benkay: wish i were
benkay: not unless revenue picks up significantly
benkay: nah man
benkay: you guys can't shave my sideburns are just starting to come into bloom! i was shooting for an assets beard conference.
benkay: BingoBoingo: unfortunately those who need what you have to offer are too stupid to realize they need it.
benkay: BingoBoingo: he used to be a commercial Lisper as well.
benkay: translation?
benkay: third question of the day: can they survive a bank run?
benkay: second question of the day: how long does it take them to move weight into their hot wallet?
benkay: question of the day.
benkay: to this philosophy.
benkay: <benkay> coins will drift out of wallets operated by people who do not adhere
benkay: completely stellar and unsmirched record.
benkay: btc. anyone with whom i'm going to put btc on deposit must have a
benkay: <benkay> and also yes, i put a huge risk premium on anything having to do with
benkay: <benkay> has* [14:05]
benkay: <benkay> the gox operation as a history of completely fucking it up
benkay: <benkay> the gox mgmt team has a history of incompetence
benkay: <benkay> evaluation criteria: management teams, past performance
benkay: i am currently hammering this point home in the portland bitcoin channel.
benkay: yes.
benkay: el oh el
benkay: altoids lol
benkay`: me: "because its not bitcoin"
benkay`: business partner on discovering our banking partners wants 5 dollars for every physical check: "why is this so stupid? why do banks suck so much?"
benkay`: me: "because its not bitcoing"
benkay`: babe, on getting a new credit card: "why is this so commmplicated"
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://github.com/litecoin-project/litecoin/blob/master-0.8/src/main.cpp#L3059, https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/blob/master-1.5/src/main.cpp#L3141
benkay: "about"? has january's not gone out yet?
benkay: it's the world, really. most people just insulate themselves from it until that awful day it rears up in all of its raging complexity and they're forced to deal.
benkay: DrSteveBrule:
benkay: discussion starts here: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2014#479849
benkay: building a finite state machine. can't be arsed with option pricing.
benkay: eh
benkay: ;;calc 500/(1-0.4879)
benkay: ;;google serialized delusions options mpex
benkay: ;;google delusions options
benkay: the breakeven on the position is a function of both the strike price and price paid.
benkay: the perspective you're missing is how much that person paid for those puts.
benkay: ;;calc 487.9146/1000
benkay: i see.
benkay: how'd you construct that position?
benkay: dafuq?
benkay: no gdp bets on bitbet eh
benkay: tru nuff
benkay: mp suggested blogging as a series of notes to self, as one can't actually remember all the bullshit waded through over a significant period of time.
benkay: also, herbijudlestoids think bout blogging as a long term thing you do - not one-off shots that might bring some fame
benkay: herbijudlestoids: https://www.fpcomplete.com/business/blog/moving-quantitative-finance-industry/
benkay: nice pankkake
benkay: reason fifteen million bitcoin is not consumer tech
benkay: children should be more frequently exposed to genitalia.
benkay: this punk thing was cool when kdrake put his together. auctionpunk is just shameless derping.
benkay: doubtless
benkay: sounds like assume bitcoinj is trash, in that case.
benkay: oh he's behind the antifungibility song and dance?
benkay: mircea_popescu: 'cause google?
benkay: do we like hearn?
benkay: additionally on the bitcoinj topic, the litecoin folks have put together some funds to hire someone to port it to litecoin.
benkay: you have to be an american jew to do that black music well, or actually grow up in the ghetto.
benkay: wu tang finance is inferior white people in blackface
benkay: kingofsports: options called out with a T are for this month, N for next.
benkay: chipug: again, don't think in terms of people doing stuff to bitcoin. bitcoin is here, and the world must now deal with it. that in now way entails saying no to the changes it will bring.
benkay: "market maker" is the term of art kingofsports
benkay: fail everywhere
benkay: maybe.
benkay: it'll explain your experience here today.
benkay: also chipug read this http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2014#479282
benkay: chipug: the attitude to bear is "don't fuck with bitcoin" not "oh no this is going to hurt bitcoin"
benkay: source please, chipug
benkay: why can't you, chipug?
benkay: important? sounds important. also amazing.
benkay: top of the blockchain
benkay: great danes are large and gentle as well
benkay: but a hug and a shoulder to cry on can help the poor abused kitten return to normal.
benkay: color me surprised.
benkay: nerds make tasteless jokes?
benkay: bitbet not scam?
benkay: wow a significant month for bitbet without significant donations
benkay: ;;calc 0.8*24*30
benkay: ;;calc 0.8*24*365
benkay: so what's a more tractable problem: supplying high-quality keyboards for shitty cobbled together laptops, or producing entire chassis?
benkay: well look asciilifeform there's digikey, there's a 3d printer, and there's a mess of hardware out there. nobody's going to mass-produce a *nix laptop but Apple, and we can't use theirs. the solution is to cobble our own together.
benkay: this means that people who care about the problem should probably invest some time and intellect into fixing it instead of waiting for a corporate sponsor like BSD does.
benkay: junkyard ware is all we get now asciilifeform
benkay: i can definitely arrange for btc to get burned. i don't think that's a sensible business plan, though.
benkay: anyways
benkay: ever heard of the Mythical Man Month?
benkay: ha
benkay: the altcoin generation bit is pretty easily did and the exchange its own bundle o' giggles but there are performance considerations around running an arbitrary number of wallet watchers
benkay: mp wants the moon, unsurprisingly.
benkay: for some of the parts
benkay: a few months is the answer
benkay: mircea_popescu: pm
benkay: wowee #dogecoin is an utter shitshow
benkay: upyourbutt.coin
benkay: fortuneover9000
benkay: what the hell is up with the pool software space
benkay: no clarification needed nubbins`
benkay: eloipool?
benkay: what's the hot jam for running pools?
benkay: goodness the things they say about network design
benkay: i was perusing a buddy's lady's business textbook
benkay: back in a few
benkay: uptime's a thing, yes
benkay: i actually think setting up build servers would be fun
benkay: so he's incentivized to ship more to improve his profits
benkay: how is the relationship with kakobrekla set up for ongoing work on bitbet?
benkay: 's why i keep saying stop saying clojure to mp
benkay: such moving parts
benkay: requires knowing how long it really takes
benkay: also mircea_popescu save me from myself and help me not price myself out
benkay: going afk for a bit gents
benkay: asciilifeform: it's a turd, but it ain't java.
benkay: go watch your sportsball.
benkay: can't say as i know what you're going on about.
benkay: free version of coingen?
benkay: has anyone here built an altcoin from source?
benkay: jurov: it's called emacs
benkay: ah seeds
benkay: what's number 4?
benkay: exchange, coingen, poolgen?
benkay: coingen, exchange, poolgen?
benkay: so: dev priorities then
benkay: mircea_popescu: http://docs.hylang.org/en/latest/
benkay: agqreiuhglerjbgaksdljbfsd
benkay: well, it's just lisp so they shouldn't have too hard of a time
benkay: playing my biases so obviously just puts my hackles up
benkay: ermergerhd
benkay: mp stoppit
benkay: one doesn't, jurov
benkay: i'm talking about linode-style virtualization compromises of wallets
benkay: talking about different things here
benkay: oh well sure web heads are virtualized
benkay: right
benkay: no way are you suggesting putting wallets on virtual instances
benkay: colo with mpex?
benkay: so needs dedi
benkay: ofc
benkay: well there's an altcoin market involved right?
benkay: location is another concern i want delegated to capitalizers of operation
benkay: more than happy to set up servers etc but it must be actually run by not me
benkay: i don't want to run this
benkay: okay so concerns
benkay: (s)
benkay: oh i see welfarecoin
benkay: no i have no idea about altcoin mkt
benkay: windows over os x?
benkay: really?
benkay: no.
benkay: yeah we skip windows build
benkay: tee hee
benkay: ho
benkay: ahaha
benkay: ;;calc 1000*800
benkay: that's a great big fuck off pile of work
benkay: HATE
benkay: i hate working for free
benkay: someone knock together a reasonable ownership structure
benkay: let's do it in clojure you guys
benkay: oh i have
benkay: oh god stop
benkay: dealing with the ungodly long enterprise sales cycle is all
benkay: be serious or be dead
benkay: life is dead serious
benkay: "a thing worth doing is worth doing well"
benkay: the -assets altcoin doesn't have source in the wild. that's hilarious.
benkay: aw man
benkay: not a terribly bad strategy so long as he allocates correctly on his +ev options
benkay: not terribly effectively though
benkay: goat hiding his tracks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82573.0
benkay: i like the little recoil and pouty face
benkay: what, women?
benkay: look i farted - now you have my poo particles in your mouth
benkay: is this an elegant demonstration of the modern practice of saying things are other things cause words and derp?
benkay: oh its chemistry o'clock nao
benkay: Bones: did you miss the part where the shit is in your living space in one of those scenarios? or does that not matter to you?
benkay: sounds like a great deal of overhead.
benkay: or a house!?
benkay: why on earth would i have a yard!?
benkay: i personally walk my dog
benkay: all living things stink
benkay: you know, like going outside
benkay: works with my personal proclivities marginally better
benkay: finer things, in my case, are dogs.
benkay: i am not having fucking absorbent chemically impregnated who knows the fuck what scattered all about my living space
benkay: i am not paying someone to maintain a shitbox in my residence.
benkay: i am not maintaining a shitbox.
benkay: perhaps its that i live in america where men don't know how to handle women or cats and so all cats i encounter are of the 'let me out now let me in now let me piss on your rug' variety
benkay: oh you
benkay: cats are impossible
benkay: women are hard enough to domesticate
benkay: listen i expect my dependents to honor my every desire and worship at my feet
benkay: get thee hence
benkay: undomesticated to boot
benkay: cats are filthy scavenging vermin
benkay: goat tits
benkay: they do payroll and what have you
benkay: well sv bank can hardly be thought of as a high finance operation
benkay: like 'i am startup and will rule all the buttcorns'?
benkay: entertaining and all but from the ants perspective how is what they're doing an attack?
benkay: attacked?