tg2: we're really giving ycombinator a run for their money
tg2: each on their own
tg2: there are about 5 teams owrking on a bitcoin payment processor
tg2: it looks like a template on themeforest
tg2: if you follow the startup scene closely
tg2: we have, and you can count them on one hand
tg2: 2.8 of them flop
tg2: as thats pretty much the value of an idea
tg2: That's what the drinks are for
benkay: rip 'em to their face.
tg2: Going to startup-drinks to hear people talk about how much they think their ideas are worth for 2 hours while drinking. It's an excercise in tolerance and humility.
moiety: that cat: fuck you , im in the box
tg2: just put a bunch of keyboards in the wild
moiety: "fuck this - back to the chinchillas"
moiety: i think the only reason people don't make coats out of them is because its hard to skin them when theyve ripped your face off
tg2: either created or not
tg2: so who has the funniest idea for a shitcoin
mircea_popescu: because well... manul is pretty close to the latin root for "hand".
mircea_popescu: manuella is, in romanian folklore, the date of all chronic masturbators.
moiety: manul coin will destroy them all, and enjoy it
mircea_popescu: nubbins` so get some derpcoin then, now's your chance
BingoBoingo: tg2: He means Altcoin, the meta altcoin
tg2: it is the altcoin, maybe I'm not getting what you're trying to imply
ozbot: X-BT - The new marketplace for trading Bitcoin with Litecoin, Namecoin and Altcoin
mircea_popescu: yes, but i mean the altcoin
tg2: anwyay, read up, if you choose to invest in it, or mine it, I think it has merit as a coin, in stark comparison to every other piece of garbage that was forked in the last 3 months
moiety: well that was the most disappointing twitter link i have ever clicked, thanks
moiety: asciilifeform: lol i must look that up. i did find the only way someone would be smiling while holding one http://www.avianexoticpetclinic.com/images/clinic2/PallasCat2.jpg
tg2: there are several hundred criteria that you could arbitrarily rate a cryptocurrency on
asciilifeform: moiety: phun phact. wash. d.c. zoo has a scale, demarcated in... cats. tells the visitor what species he would make the best meal for.
moiety: ^ so much yes, i will look after them til shipping
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nubbins`: so if it uses half the power
moiety: asciilifeform: entirely, i need them daily now
benkay: the "number" of "coins" is arbitrary.
benkay: tg2 it's a meaningless number. you can make the block reward whatever you want.
tg2: you mine darkcoin on your gpu, it uses literally 1/2 the power
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, "Half the power"
nubbins`: i'm going to put in $75k, keep an eye out for the bump
nubbins`: i'd better buy them all now
B007: remember to post a to the moon thread on 4chan
tg2: i have $50k in them
tg2: means it should see some significant upswings when the summer heat settles in in north america
tg2: coupled with the fact that mining it uses 1/2 the power and produces 1/2 the heat on graphics cards, and that there are no asics for it
tg2: its not just a copy of another coin
tg2: 1: the mining algorithm is power friendly on GPUs
tg2: if you post in the announcements(altcoins) forum of bitcointalk it should just autoban your IP
tg2: and I know it wont be that long, thats the sad part
tg2: who consorts the consortiums
tg2: I think the crypto industry needs to have some kind of consortium that rejects new coins
cazalla: B007: google trends is misleading, add litecoin so you can see the trend relative to another keyword
mircea_popescu: i guess nobody is from the 70s.
moiety wonders why there is no manul game; goes to find game dev
mircea_popescu: im in it for the social justice aspect.
tg2: quite the game
mircea_popescu: i have endless piles of platinum, gold and other game currencies
tg2: better than being a student with nothing to their name
mircea_popescu: at least if you believe what they say in chat.
tg2: darkcoin 3x coming in the next 2 weeks
tg2: thats the best advice I can give
moiety: BingoBoingo: bahahaha that's epic. i love how they all have that "fuck off" face
nubbins`: home of the legitimate fund
ozbot: Manul The Cat On Holiday by badratio - Meme Center
mircea_popescu: check that shit out. i remember the days the counter was... you know... xmas. http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuple/
tg2: " Why is the site off line SO OFTEN Huh "
mircea_popescu: (goat was at the time running the more obviously fraudulent, highest volume shit glbse was listing)
mircea_popescu: s "assets" in a rather similar fashion
tg2: clown had his old software site hosted on the same ip before
tg2: i tracked somebody who said they got scammed, followed the coins, went into a wallet with 17,000 LTC
tg2: straight up just stealing them lol
joecool: mircea_popescu: too much work, I already have other writers on those sort of projects
tg2: like them
mircea_popescu: well... you do it then ?
joecool: mircea_popescu: get other people write it?
joecool: mircea_popescu: you ever consider a tabloid-style sister site of trilema? "Writing dumb shit for the masses"
moiety: err who to the goat rape pic?!
mircea_popescu: http://www.myzimbabwe.co.zw/news/210-jealous-silobela-man-finds-donkeys-having-sex-kills-the-male-one.html
tg2: dolphins are the only species to copulate more frequently than your mom.
mircea_popescu: afaik dolphins copulate like most other mammals
moiety: combat dolphins?! sort of useless when they get distracted and go off on year long gang rapes
TestingUnoDosTre: lost my username for a moment there http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml
joecool: BingoBoingo: well the US lost a bunch with toxic dart guns attached some years back
mike_c: have no fear americans, we're on it. "The facility is one of only two such combat dolphin training centers in the world, the other is run by the US Navy in San Diego."
BingoBoingo: The real prize in Crimea http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140326/188762672/Crimean-Military-Dolphins-to-Serve-in-Russian-Navy.html
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/apparently-im-not-the-only-one-pointing-out-the-obvious/
moiety: MOTD (manul of the day) http://wall4all.me/walls/animals/cats-manul-wildcat-1009019-1600x1067.jpg
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you sure you read it there ?
BingoBoingo: I'll dig up the Trilema article
asciilifeform: it's interesting how, after many years of talmudic sophistry, the 'pua' folks arrived at their current technological state of the art: buying a plane ticket out of the u.s.
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mircea_popescu: (the heartiste thing i mean)
mircea_popescu: oh, is this some dood from the pua scene ?
asciilifeform: he's one of the folks who write guides for axenic mice on how to emulate having an immune system.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: linked to me once, a few years ago, describing as 'the moldbug of computing.' not sure if complement or curse.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: famous in the 'moldbug' set
benkay: the po
benkay: kinda one of the features of bitbet, TestingUnoDosTre
mircea_popescu: byt the time he's 50 however... he can no longer be fine. no matter what.
rithm: the old people similarly will need drugs to survive
asciilifeform: and ~100% of dropped mice end in them
TestingUnoDosTre: I thought the quote was because people tend to speak here before thinking...
rithm: you give them 2 years
mircea_popescu: if you took the average 60 yo and paradropped them naked anywhere in the world, they would not live to be 65.
mircea_popescu: they would live to be 18.
rithm: but I would say nothing separates the jar
rithm: if you had a jar and closed and sucked all of the air out
asciilifeform: rithm: understand 'breathe vacuum' as 'steal enough for a plane ticket and move to afghanistan'
mircea_popescu: kids CAN breathe vacuum
mircea_popescu: much less theoretical.
mircea_popescu: the kid could run as is
asciilifeform: theoretically.
asciilifeform: the elderly engineer could take his next few salary cheques and run
TestingUnoDosTre: wait wait wait. How is a lowly engineer below an elderly engineer or businessman that's mortgaged up to the gills
mircea_popescu: dude chick's 40 and still running the gauntlet
bitcoinpete: Highlights: 5) Hire people you like and trust >> Sounds like WoT to me. 7) You CAN figure it out – you have the ability.>> Right...
asciilifeform: next: man of leisure, but bound to the land
ozbot: Advice From The Youngest Self-Made Female Billionaire in History | Entrepreneur.co.za
bitcoinpete: http://www.entrepreneur.co.za/advice-from-the-youngest-self-made-female-billionaire-in-history/
asciilifeform: next: elderly engineer or businessman with serious income, but mortgaged up the gills
the20year3: Got the little cottage rented out, joy
mircea_popescu: i dunno how these nominalist things work.
asciilifeform: perhaps 5 if you count the vagrants
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: well there are at least 4 layers
bitcoinpete: mike_c: surely there are those who don't have to work anymore, but choose to. i call that retired
bitcoinpete: *the
bitcoinpete: i thought they wiki authors were retired or semi-retired, like many here
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete by now i can't separate the "from the ground up" automatism from the earlier linked retards.
benkay: "to allow consumers and businesses to use digital currency safe in the knowledge that their governments will be able to know everything about our customers without resorting to thermorectal cryptanalysis."
bitcoinpete: promise to allow consumers and businesses to use digital currency easily, reducing much of the friction and risk that is currently associated with Bitcoin."
bitcoinpete: "Circle is one of the first companies built from the ground up to provide financial products for consumers that harness the power of Bitcoin to enable faster transactions, lower costs, greater privacy safeguards and increased protection against fraud and identity theft while enabling more frictionless global economic activity and cross-border transactions. The company’s forthcoming products, which entered limited availability release today,
mircea_popescu: o look at that. there's some sort of fiat competition to bitcoin etc.
mircea_popescu: "We accept most international and local credit and debit cards as well as PayPal. Flattr use Euro as its base currency, but it doesnt matter what currency you use, we take care of the exchange."
mircea_popescu: mike_c no, but they may accidentally shoot some grannies...
TomServo: Either I forgot how to read a graph or gribble and ozbots' diff stats don't match sipa. What am I doing wrong?
ThickAsThieves: "Male university students in North Korea must get the same haircut as their leader Kim Jong-un, reports say."
mircea_popescu: where's the overlord-padishah-grandking or w/e his name was
mircea_popescu: trying to push the looming hole on newbie "investors"
mircea_popescu: so basically a rehash of the old "pirate pass through" scam
Mats_cd03: the bottom is going to fall out at some point
benkay: the apartment will now get cleaned
benkay: the girl is over her sickness
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/26/5550260/wu-tang-clan-will-only-sell-a-single-copy-of-their-new-album how long before it leaks?
ThickAsThieves: if not, other board members are likely to be
dhenson: Makes me wonder if FC is one of the private investors with a portion of the 60k private shares.
dhenson: But with new chips... everyone assumed they would.
ThickAsThieves: is it more than a PMB? is it any less exposed to diff increase than other mining?
ThickAsThieves: so you buy RM shares and then slowly get your money back via AM divs?
ThickAsThieves: if he is on the AM board, how is a fair price determined
mircea_popescu: it's there.
mircea_popescu: dhenson in the manner.
Apocalyptic: <dhenson> not yet, they are going to build a UI just for trading their shares. << classic
mircea_popescu: o hey, like the 2012 mpoe ipo
dhenson: not an exchange, direct btc deposit to their IPO btc address.
dhenson: 15k shares pre-sold in blocks of 2000+ before the public IPO so they sold out before most people had a chance to buy in.
dhenson: They opened up 3750 shares for a public IPO at noon china time and they all sold in 13 seconds.
mircea_popescu remembers the days of bitvps ipo...
dhenson: regardless of the validity of the investment, that Rockminer IPO was crazy last night... 13 seconds.
asciilifeform: there is plenty of data on what makes for a terrible one, though.
mircea_popescu: there's no consensus of what makes a better language, other than edge cases such as ergativity
mircea_popescu: exceptions tho apparently have their own advantages
ThickAsThieves: has he actually taught anyone the language and studied if it isn;t worse for being so stripped down?
mircea_popescu: dude who the fuck is trolling wikipedia to this insane degree
mircea_popescu: "Nobody likes you, generally speaking, and the presumptuous, misguided sort of nonsense I'm responding to here is a prime example of why. Romania is a large country, populated by a lot of distinct Internet users. Comparatively, wikipedia is a small shithole populated by a lot of indistinguishable idiots. Please stop getting into everyone's day."
ozbot: Project Unspell: Why doesn't it use the Latin alphabet?
ThickAsThieves: the hive mind is improving
the20year3: utilization of the letter so it doesn't become obsolete
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: software people writing 'spell checker' mostly understand this to mean just the websterian reform, where they snipped the 'u' from 'colour', etc.
asciilifeform: well, in afghanistan, a hill tribe 10km from another such may or may not understand the speech. but to us, they both speak pashto
ozbot: Southpark - They Took Our Job - YouTube
dhenson: At what point is it going to stop being called 'English'? Referring to the divergant language in parts of the US (south especially).
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dhenson: Nah, she was driving away and bumped the car into him and ran over his foot. just assault
dhenson: Of course, she did run over him with the car.
adolf_fishler: ur just supposed to let her. its the law.
dhenson: They would only need 1 in 3 to speak english. With all of the american tv programming, I could believe it.
Mats_cd03: their ESL programs are horrible
VanCleef: america should just ban the internet
ThickAsThieves: when will they ban Twitter?
asciilifeform: VanCleef: afaik this has been the case for years.
ThickAsThieves: obama better hit the gym
benkay: "We! Are! The 99%!"
mircea_popescu: "please believe us when we say the shit we sell you is worth buying"
ThickAsThieves: surely dont understand bitcoin either
ThickAsThieves: most retarded headline of the week: Poll: 48% of Americans understand bitcoin but most still prefer gold - See more at: http://www.pfhub.com/poll-americans-distrust-bitcoin-and-prefer-gold-457/#sthash.yidxzuVA.dpuf
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ThickAsThieves: how did people get negative balances? why are they refunding people in cash?
mircea_popescu: plenty of people trying to make a career out of doing the wrong thing.
mircea_popescu: FabianB i would suppose they're taking the opposite tack to the now-famous "fuck you and read" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.0
mircea_popescu: much like a singer won't win if they're good. they must suck to win, in order to "represent" the idiots watching at home.
mircea_popescu: a large part of the entire "start-up success" fantasy by now is specifically NOT having any sort of technical merit or actual value
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves somehow this discussion is a strange rehash of the older "platinum records / musical talent" thing.
ozbot: Overdose: The Next Financial Crisis - YouTube
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol the saga of bad crypto never ends does it.
Mats_cd03: wouldnt be the first time someone said that
VanCleef: i think these are signs that market is topping and everything over valued bubbles etc and could see a decent crash this year
ThickAsThieves: but they are tabled or something
Duffer1: maybe they want to offer a vr platform for minigame devs?
ThickAsThieves: i dont see how socilmedia-izing the Rift will help
Duffer1: also the sequels to Leviathan Wakes were pretty disappointing imo