pLambert: now it is NEOBEEQ, the q is for questionable
mgio: what do you predict the price will go to, say, in an hour?
gribble: Vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours, and 9 seconds ago: <Vexual> lasers in the eye is never good tat
pankkake: where is Vexual by the way?
pankkake: I have some preferences but hard to describe them. general preference to bitterness and high vicosity
pankkake: oh there's one actually called that. it's an expression
truffles: well that guy on the bottle..
pankkake: delete all the things!
pankkake: also deleted the MP ones
pankkake: wikipedia deleted an article I wrote years ago, which passed the deletion test once… but that time it was quick and sneaky
kanzure: is there any rule 34 fan art of mozilla monster killing homos'
truffles: and other places nm
mike_c: and the goat suspension of 2014. cog is trading again too
mircea_popescu: is nefario on the advisory board of havelock or is stupidity just this copy/pasta by nature ?
mircea_popescu: so wait, you can now trade the suspended neobee symbol by trading neobeeq ?
ThickAsThieves: do they even lawyer?
pankkake: that migth explain the decision :(
pankkake: The Fund will now be designated as NEOBEEQ to reflect the uncertainty of the future of LMB Holdings
wywialm_: i mean irony, mircea_popescu means race if the french bow stuff is racism :)
truffles: i think the word u seek is prejudice
mircea_popescu: im sure the british would sing under pressure as much as teh french.
mircea_popescu: maybe that's most of what's reported in the press they read, so that's what they think about.
mircea_popescu: weren't they very limited geographically ?
pankkake: but stuartuk is supposed to be from the uk
mircea_popescu: anyway, i wonder what the root of this imaginary crime of "commercial attacks" is supposed to be. a mistranslation or something ?
truffles: Napoleon wasnt weak why dont they mention him?
mircea_popescu: i just hope nobody takes offense at the bff suggestion. i love lots of you just as much!
pankkake: the best is that the two found each other in their desperation - they both lost a lot in scams, and made a common merged enemy
truffles: the insult about being french?
pankkake: I've dealt with a lot of stupid on the interebs but this is… I don't even want to reply to the thing
kakobrekla: >Popescu's best buddy the Frenchman pankkake is also in this deep. He has taken money from MP to carryout attacks on all things not MPEx. Pankkake knows enough to put MP behind bars for blackmail, extortion, commercial attacks. If the FBI put pressure on pankkake he will talk. The French bow to pressure very easily. Always have.
mircea_popescu: fortunately people found better inanity to bother with
mircea_popescu: otherwise the story of the irreducible differences would easily fill the libraries. which it had been filling, 500 to 1500 ad.
mircea_popescu: these are very much equally so "originals" even if the two bibles are only considered the same item for the sake of laziness.
mircea_popescu: for the western church, centered around rome and the western (mostly, gaulish) dioceses in latin.
mircea_popescu: well, a set of texts which was originally written in mostly aramaic has been transalted. for the eastern church, centered around byzantium and the eastern dioceses, in greek.
mircea_popescu: latin is as much an orginal language of the bible as greek is.
numerisTrade: well, ok, he commented the latin translation, but still translation and not the original - i thought nubbins` referred to original languages
mircea_popescu: cryptolemming kinda. you know how to pull up the logs ?
cryptolemming: so a rather eclectic collection of conversation points here I take it, look forward to getting to know some of you better in time. for now, I'll resist the temptation to bring up neo & bee, if not primarily bc I can only assume it's been discussed to ends.
mike_c: lol. maybe they can get ver to convert
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
the20year2: just that they stated he lied
mircea_popescu: mike_c i wonder if they have jesuscoin jesusi
mircea_popescu: that boxed edition where you discover the supersexy voice actress is a 4 foot 6 troll.
nubbins`: i'm actually working on a project right now, silkscreening a copy of the gospel according to mark in scriptio continua
mircea_popescu: the20year2 what specifically about it ?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` actually, greek, aramaic and latin. hebrew is more like... you know, the sort of boxed edition they release 10 years after the movie.
the20year2: mircea_popescu: reason i asked about HFT was this is on the 1st page of reddit - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-03/bats-admits-ceo-lied-about-hft-cnbc
nubbins`: the20year2: it could be successfully argued that english is what brings a new aspect to it.
the20year2: hebrew and greek certainly bring a whole new aspect to reading the bible
nubbins`: whenever someone claims "the bible says x" and they don't speak greek or hebrew, it's actually okay to hit them in the face
the20year2: If the leader of your church says to?
nubbins`: nothing lulzier than people talking about the bible as it's translated into English
mircea_popescu: and they don;t ?
truffles: danielpbarron now ure of one mind with the church of bitcoin!!
the20year2: But if it's literal that means all christians share the exact same physical brain, if you believe in strict literal interpetation
mircea_popescu: cryptolemming ah i recall you. so get in the wot ?
gribble: You are now authenticated for user tg2 with key 31FAA963C3333333
pankkake: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Slave_at_St._Andrews_cross_(3092).jpg/768px-Slave_at_St._Andrews_cross_(3092).jpg probably more related to the discussion
mircea_popescu: anyway, in a doomed effort to improve the porn-to-text ratio of this god forsaken channel, i present you
tg2: and unto thee, god said "adulterers and fornicators rejoice, as my gift to thee I bestow the holiest of librification"
cryptolemming: Hi, I'm new here, would just like to introduce we will be announcing a pre-launch of our dice-inspired games casino in the coming weeks. Will be around here a bit in the meantime and likely moreso after launch.
jborkl: What happens to everyone that picked the wrong one?
jborkl: what God is the correct one, I need to make sure to pick correctly- kinda important.
the20year2: how often do you talk to them about catholicism?
tg2: somebody ask assbot what he thinks on the matter
mircea_popescu: the20year2 sort-of.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron well so there you go, your master can make you make a choice. qed.
tg2: where was it assumed that god can cause the choice to be made?
mike_c: no, you are not saying it makes sense. but you are saying that it would make sense if we were god's slaves. there may be other explanations, but that is one possibility that makes sense. i'm pretty sure you said that.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron tell that to the slave.
rithm: oic this is your fanciful game, not theirs
truffles: well i think i brought up the religion thing
mircea_popescu: rithm because i am evil and they are easily tempted.
mircea_popescu: whether it does or does not make sense, as far as your raa goes it might as well.
rithm: why the fuck.
rithm: or the romanian belongs to someone
the20year2: all the words look funny
truffles: Someone made the discussion about themself, why he is like God to his slave because he locks her up etc..
tg2: and then, unto his followers, he said, "scroll, and all shall become clear".
mircea_popescu: it's not accessible from their frame.
mircea_popescu: ok. ascribing a purpose to my actions is what frustrates the slavegirls, too.
mike_c: i am aware there is a distinction.
mircea_popescu: mike_c you familiar with the cause/purpose distinction ?
SatoshiJack: I believe the Son of God rocks for sure -- No one could kick Hercules's ass !
mike_c: but you do those things for a reason. so unless god had a reason, the parallel is not there. i can not imagine what you are saying god's reason is.
mircea_popescu: i am saying that what you propose about god is within my own personal experience, and in the experience of people i know. this has factually happened.
the20year2: A local landlord here hired a liquidation company for a few of her properties, in the end she got way more than I would have ever predicted
mike_c: well, then you are saying the slave is doing something useful. what are we doing that is useful for god?
the20year2: I've already contacted a liquidation specialist, and our corp atty to see what needs to be done, granted in real estate I've done it before plenty of times. That way if i was to get run over by a bus, die from too much blow, ect there'd be an automatic liquidation process that would go through
mircea_popescu: the20year2 just make sure it doesn't turn into a novel way to "sorry lost all the coins".
mircea_popescu: that flows from the role definition, not much argument even.
the20year2: Just quoting it from the book
benkay: the20year2!
the20year2: He told them to come to him who are weary, burdened, ect so they could believe in Him, so they could be changed. If it wasn't a choice ,Christ would have never said ' come to me', he would have just done it to those whom he was speaking to.
mike_c: 1) He made eve eat the apple. 2) He knew who told eve she was nekked. 3) He had a conversation about it with her anyway, already knowing the answers, the outcome of the conversation, and everything that would happen before and after.
jborkl: mircea, is -pr still banished from the forum?
the20year2: In Matthew 11:28 he doesn't?
the20year2: If choice doesn't exist, then why does Christ say "Come to me all who are weary"
mircea_popescu: i guess kansas counts as southern for this purpose.
truffles: in some english translation its there
the20year2: truffles: not exactly, his viewpoint is pretty common in US southern Baptists
mircea_popescu: apparently their office is abandoned, employees unpaid went home.
truffles: acutally eating that apple was the beginning most likely
the20year2: i saw that mircea_popescu. I was curious if anyone had actually stopped by their offices in Cyprus?
truffles: <danielpbarron> He's an all powerful God; if He didn't cause evil (and evil exists) then He is not all powerful >>>> my understanding was God made His creations and left them to freewill which amounted to this widespread evil
mircea_popescu: the20year2 there was some article earlier, apparently they're bein investigated for fraud by cyprus police now.
jborkl: well now that is gross, you know what is on the floor?
jborkl: otherwise looking good
benkay: i've seen burner chicks with better hair at day 12 on the playa
benkay: mircea_popescu: i'd rather talk about lasers and encryption and rockets and titties
mircea_popescu: cmyers either that or you're not a perfectly good worker :D
mircea_popescu: benkay i claim dibs on having produced the event.
benkay: what are the odds.
the20year2: That's not where i"m going cmyers, I rather am saying the answer to your question is there
cmyers: then god can suck my dick
cmyers: so god exists because the bible explains it all, and the bible explains it all because god exists. awesome.
mircea_popescu: my lash, and not my slave's butt, is the measuring stick of good.
mircea_popescu: they aren't.
the20year2: Dpeends on if you believe or understand the biblical roots of sin and mankind. If you understand those it answers the question cmyers
mircea_popescu: it unites the epicurean with the cheeky children of today, all presuming they are a measuring stick for good.
cmyers: there is evil in the world. If god is willing to stop it, but unable, he is not omnipotent. If he is able, but not willing, he is not perfectly good. IF he is neither, why call him god? If he is both, then whence commeth evil?
the20year2: Thus why i said traditional theological classes
cmyers: danielpbarron: I wonder what your answer to the epicurian dilemma is?
mike_c: who else was talking at the time?
mircea_popescu: the "who told you" question is indeed old.
mircea_popescu: actually if a rule was made that discussing the bible in any other language is heresy and lake-of-fire it'd be so much better.
mike_c: no discussing the bible?
mircea_popescu: why are you buying bitcoin then ?
mike_c: "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked?" << well who do you think it was?
benkay: musta not made the nicean cut
mircea_popescu: including the lilith story ?
mircea_popescu: how's keisercoin doing these days ?
mircea_popescu: "But compare and contrast (by which I mean meditate upon) the alt coin with max keisers alt coin and youll perhaps
youll come to something."
mircea_popescu: re-reading this february piece http://trilema.com/2014/on-periphery-and-the-peripheral-ephemerides-are-also-mentioned/
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i meant re the abortion/gospel stuff
mircea_popescu: also, from the ridiculous tourban department :
mircea_popescu: benkay i would guess the work efficiency differential displayed there was about 1000:1.
mircea_popescu: so now they read... everything else.
mircea_popescu: cmyers because i have fifty million people employed who no longer read the forum.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "there drugs". obviously.
truffles: they can be religious only in name though
cmyers: but remember, a "millitant atheist" uses a pen and a keyboard. what does a "millitant christian" or "millitant muslim" use? The words are all out of whack.
cmyers: truffles: I agree, there is much derp on #atheism and /r/atheism and you will find some there
truffles: at least the ones that self select to those places i have bad experience
cmyers: I idle in there as well.
cmyers: erm, #atheism
cmyers: anyways, if you would like to continue this discussion, join #atheist on snoonet.
truffles: here lies why id prefer discussions with a troll than a "knowlegeable" person cuz at least the troll knows he's trolling
cmyers: danielpbarron: if that is true, then god caused me to disbelieve.
cmyers: there is no "two sides"
cmyers: you can be gnostic or agnostic, theist or athiest
cmyers: agnostic and atheist are not mutually exclusive
cmyers: truffles: no, that is now how those words are defined. I am an agnostic atheist
truffles: well then ure agnostic imo
cmyers: I am certain I do not believe in a god. I am not certain there is no god
cmyers: I am open to evidence to the contrary, but thus far I ahve seen no evidence
cmyers: no. I lack a belief in a god, which is what atheist means
cmyers: I am an atheist.
cmyers: certainty is the biggest enemy of truth.
cmyers: I've come a long way over the years. I'm happy to say I'm engaged, in a fulfilling job, etc etc. But in particular, I've spent a lot of time studying (armchair-studying) epistemology, and how people know things
ThickAsThieves: " I don't think it would be an issue if they were stopping everyone. The fact that they are picking and choosing is the problem."
ThickAsThieves: "Really! If you think you can do a better job, strap on a vest, join the force and get your butt out there!"
ThickAsThieves: "I think I will call the Sheriff and tell him Thank You and good job officers !!!"
ThickAsThieves: "The fact that they randomly are checking cars sounds good to me! That's how they find the people that are hiding there drugs! Why would you be so worried about it? If they pull me over at random I have no problem with them checking my car cuz I have nothing to hide! Things like this help keep the community safe and drug free!"
asciilifeform: what braggartry! the things i don't understand... could fill a galactic library.
ThickAsThieves: So I posted about out the Supreme Court found that "narcotic checkpoints" are unconstitutional, in the local community Facebook group. Guess what most people replied?
truffles: id rather hear about ur coding fails or procastinations than this gpg ..
khersonus: none, I haven't typed single key yet in vim either
dexX7: but other clients or tools
mircea_popescu: they really should respecify the thing, have it spit out a base64 blob which can then be used directly.
dexX7: <khersonus> so, bitcoin sig needs: btc address, message, signature. << ?? you need a privkey and a message to generate a signature.. from the sig+message you can derive the public key
mircea_popescu: in other words, my blog just told me it's only accepting comments from human beings.
mike_c: well, i am eager to hear about it! not sure how one profits without a counterparty taking the loss.
mircea_popescu: mike_c well since he says "and without the house needing to take the opposite side of a position" i imagine he's at least tried.
mike_c: have you thought through how to avoid the problems it had?
mircea_popescu: that part was never difficult to prove historically. the other side is the grand contribution of gpg/bitcoin to legal practice.