benkay: whether it's fancy paper with imaginary value now, or metal stamped paper with imaginary value in the future.
benkay: it's allllll just paper.
benkay: hasn't had the stones to call mp out on the same scam tho
benkay: yeah he's been banging on about pmbs being a scam
benkay: face it man we're all just dancing around trying to fuck each other
benkay: "assuming this mintage is worth more than the underlying in the future"
benkay: nubbins` you just lost the moral high ground.
benkay: so do all pmb purchasers
benkay: nubbins` u scamzor!
benkay: scammer!
benkay: you crazy numismatists
benkay: BWAT
benkay: d_rebel why u change names constantly
benkay: hey d_rebel what's your deal
benkay: so kakobrekla nubbins` retarded or not?
benkay: he's also a filthy pothead
benkay: nubbins`: 'cause i really want my house smelling of bong water.
benkay: that's always struck me as an indicator of inefficiency
benkay: so make one
benkay: the clever's seal blows out after about 3 years of constant use
benkay: but hiding from them all in fear is a pretty safe approach.
benkay: hey KRS-One there are a bunch of different kinds of plastics
benkay: FUKKEN PLASTIC
benkay: everything's plastic.
benkay: it's plastic.
benkay: super precision coffee making
benkay: nubbins`: what i love about the clever is that it combines the extraction time of the french press with the filtering of the pour over
benkay: nubbins`: yeah all of the things that szabo/satoshi wrote over the past 5 years or so
benkay: but subject of coffee, y'all ever fuck with the clever brewer?
benkay: you should enbookify 'em
benkay: BingoBoingo's nominally gathering up the satoshi letters
benkay: eyo nubbins`
benkay: there is an awful chasm between people who want encryption and people who are willing to operate under the inconvenience of actual security.
benkay: so the flipside of the additiction to 'standards-compliant' is that now some people in big cushy chairs are finally getting the idea that their standards are just a backdoor for the us of a.
benkay: although...
benkay: if the opportunity presents itself i'd be happy to. i'm not about to cold-call all the international law firms in dc, though.
benkay: besides they get to mark up the time spent fucking around with encryption to their clients - it's a win win win win win!
benkay: nevertheless, that law firm needs some cardanos and training on how to use them.
benkay: there are fifty people over there - and only one with a checkbook and the brains to recognize a solution that needs implementing, frequently attended by much organizational resistance to doing anything.
benkay: this is the enterprise sales problem.
benkay: asciilifeform: the cardanos come free with the implementation package for your two organizations.
benkay: the kind of idiots who don't know about cardanos to begin with.
benkay: defo gotta leave the us before doing that.
benkay: sell everyone cardanos at 1000x markup.
benkay: hm. maybe start a consulting company around "secure international comms"
benkay: "but the supreme court dismissed their fear as 'speculative'"
benkay: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: odds on the satoshi hoard moving to an unspendable address?
benkay: banged the client *out*
benkay: i kinda begin to see why satoshi banged the client like he did
benkay: never put into the blockchain that which you can handle on your own machines.
benkay: er, pump
benkay: there's some money in that dump
benkay: "start out crazy long shots, end up nailbiters"
benkay: made 100k
benkay: "hit by the brandhammer"
benkay: barely put any effort in...
benkay: sicilian female slavery??
benkay: yeah plus you get such great intel about all of them from their reactions i bet
benkay: i use commie as an insult. it confuses people.
benkay: programmer
benkay: i'm going to go design a thing. computers suck.
benkay: *flips table*
benkay: which i totally have time to and will do in the next decade
benkay: solution is not to implement venus actually but to fix rss in emacs
benkay: but man you know what else sucks? my rss story.
benkay: probably sucks
benkay: slash other stuff
benkay: rss thinger
benkay: no no no kid focus focus kid there are far more important things
benkay: or curate a republication of a bunch of feeds
benkay: makes me want to run my own aggregation channel
benkay: holy fucknuggets venus is illmatic
benkay: wow pankkake venus is some brilliance
benkay: what did you learn?
benkay: oh you
benkay: bahaha
benkay: just about a third of the rentalstarter ipo.
benkay: btw that mpex trade, like 74 btc?
benkay: !t h rent
benkay: mircea_popescu: you're missing out on all sorts of context not at least sampling videos
benkay: maybe the same stoya?
benkay: everything's part of the point i suppose
benkay: maybe the point
benkay: wtf not the point
benkay: of course the woman's response is "i hate the essay!"
benkay: thanks for that cads. babe and i just watched stoya's. a+
benkay: well hey some of us are unversed. you have depth in it.
benkay: dang asciilifeform you're a taskmaster
benkay: ;;calc 74*600
benkay: is there a ranking of purely crypto exchanges by vol?
benkay: ;;calc 59.7639 + 14.2174
benkay: orwell's responsible for modern socialism?
benkay: 1806-1859.
benkay: yeah. people were cool once.
benkay: once upon a time it smelled like blood and money.
benkay: these days certainly.
benkay: the old kind
benkay: well i bleed american capitalism
benkay: hm
benkay: Mats_cd03: are you on cocaine?
benkay: amen
benkay: you mean brians
benkay: cads: what kind of factory worker reads about formal verification of large software projects?!
benkay: glass bead game?
benkay: sure but then you're not really putting the barrel through its paces are you?
benkay: u want shells too sir?
benkay: more like a potato gun
benkay: hah
benkay: most us unis i've been to are similarly oriented around hoovering up research + dod monies asciilifeform
benkay: yup.
benkay: mircea_popescu: cs departments are for research. mechanical and ee departments are apparently where you learn to actually weld shit together.
benkay: mircea_popescu: it's a goddamn shame that everyone's leaving it to the self-taught hacks
benkay: prezactly.
benkay: the flaw is in people using the txid as a bookkeeping device which satoshi explicitly warned against iirc
benkay: anyways, this malleability thing as mentioned above is not really a flaw, cads.
benkay: bwaaaaat
benkay: copumpkin: do you write in public anywhere?
benkay: the "ship to forum sockpuppets" asic ploy.
benkay: ;;ticker --market mtgox
benkay: oh, our corpus isn't quite *that* large or *that* stochastic now...
benkay: this is true of π as well.
benkay: cads: well then there ain't nowhere to go but up!
benkay: stochastic extraction of "sensible" strings from longer ones?
benkay: mircea_popescu: yup
benkay: cads: you can find greater job satisfaction at a lower rate doing stochastic inventory and supply chain stuff. that said, you have to live in factories or warehouses and interact with line staff from time to time.
benkay: mircea_popescu: what?
benkay: i was cracking wise about the technical folks' tendency to resort to blind incantations.
benkay: mircea_popescu: stochastic simulations, generally? you'd know more than me...
benkay: i'll buy that one ;)
benkay: quantitative finance -> kabbalah
benkay: no mircea_popescu you see i have this model and it shows that if things were different things would be different
benkay: req'd reading.
benkay: options derivatives and stuff
benkay: also jc hull
benkay: that'd be the piece in question, cads.
benkay: cads: joshi, derivatives.
benkay: !b 7
benkay: testing in production since 2011
benkay: #bitcoin-assets
benkay: ;;ticker --market btcavg
benkay: just joshin ya boss
benkay: color my ass surprised?
benkay: mp wrote a spec that performs
benkay: oh well then
benkay: color my ass surprised
benkay: wow the spec didn't account for all edge cases
benkay: !b 1
benkay: proleblems
benkay: lol prole problems
benkay: mircea_popescu's having software trubbles
benkay: foar history.
benkay: !b2
benkay: well yeah
benkay: malleability options next?
benkay: teh horreur
benkay: lol yeah he saw you fiddling with your key again and pulled the bot
benkay: i don't really much care in the grand scheme of things but its a point what needs making.
benkay: i care where's my damn options bot profit
benkay: morale*
benkay: ritual canings will be administered until moral improves.
benkay: all terps are henceforth confined to their quarters
benkay: yeah but - 'terp'?
benkay: also wtf terp asciilifeform?
benkay: ruminating on the future of los estados unidos
benkay: all in their bedrooms
benkay: ThickAsThieves that sounds like a call for a subscription market service.
benkay: it's not making any money for mpex shareholders not trading!
benkay: people can't price options on their own, though mircea. that competence thing.
benkay: it's his fault.
benkay: indirectly?
benkay: did i just get mircea_popescu to watch a video?
benkay: plus also the animations are pretty sweet
benkay: especially deanclkclk
benkay: THAT IS EVERYONE IN BITCOIN
benkay: you guys you guys you guys
benkay: use your brian BingoBoingo
benkay: openex scam
benkay: doge-vu
benkay: jurov had to pay me to write a manual for your "exchange"
benkay: well you write for yourself, is it any surprise?
benkay: it's like you write 'em yourself or something ;)
benkay: yeah your howotos suck, mircea_popescu
benkay: deanclkclk: you might listen to davout he does what you're dreaming of doing.
benkay: play is an important part of thinking
benkay: deanclkclk does that mean our deal's off?
benkay: and maybe in retrospect it's not so much a shorting as entering into an option to spend some time if the guy leaves us alone, delivery of which he'll take when/if he delivers
benkay: deanclkclk: you agreed to bugger off 'till you delivered something i can audit. now do so.
benkay: deal? you stop bothering us about this until it's done, when it's done i audit your codebase.
benkay: all the audits going to say is probably something like "kinda full of holes, operationally bogus, liable to lose your coins"
benkay: you make an exchange, i'll audit it for you.
benkay: not at all
benkay: less talk, more do.
benkay: now go do it
benkay: yes
benkay: shh
benkay: precisely.
benkay: ThickAsThieves: he's convinced me to hack an allchain watcher together
benkay: gotta keep the brain in tip top condition
benkay: nigga i got an endless list of shit to process
benkay: oh mimisbrunnr?
benkay: before i do what now?
benkay: yeah if he delivers i gotta deploy some time on a code audit
benkay: how had i?
benkay: i'm not taking this bet, mp.
benkay: outta mah FACE mircea_popescu
benkay: i'm shorting his delivery.
benkay: he's never going to deliver.
benkay: deal?
benkay: and i'll go through the trouble of auditing your code.
benkay: set up the simulations
benkay: set it up
benkay: yeah simulate it
benkay: nah if any'd obtained the necessary ins
benkay: heh i'd be surprised
benkay: oh enlighten my derpy ass
benkay: how so?
benkay: huh that's an interesting take
benkay: five who and what?
benkay: for teh lolz
benkay: o yea
benkay: well that second one was actually a noob trap
benkay: ThickAsThieves: what jobs?
benkay: Duffer1: only thing holding you back is you, cousine.
benkay: much less a reputation for outright scammery.
benkay: one can never fix a reputation for incompetence.
benkay: one can always earn more bitcoins.
benkay: pankkake i gotcha buddy
benkay: whether 'all' is 9 bucks like in herbi's case, or everything everything in yours...
benkay: losing it all is a part of the learning process
benkay: deanclkclk: do something useful, don't screw people over.
benkay: Duffer1: just like people who'd benefit from BingoBoingo's advice on how not to fail in bitcoin are too wrapped up in their silicon valley bullshit to listen to him.
benkay: Duffer1: just like people who need to read "so you want to start a bitcoin business" can't get over their egos and get it.
benkay: Duffer1: people who need to read Variety Speak won't get it.
benkay: "so you want to start a bitcoin business"
benkay: you also need to read the thing you were linked way back up miles above
benkay: deanclkclk: tech is a trivial thing.
benkay: deanclkclk: incorrect.
benkay: first you must wot
benkay: if you want to btc
benkay: ;;gettrust deanclkclk
benkay: who are you?
benkay: sorry for capslock :(
benkay: sorry.
benkay: NOTHING FUCK OFF DIE AND GO AWAY EXCHAGES ARE THE WORST AND ATTRACT THE WORST
benkay: i want that 50 sat back plz