kakobrekla: well, the quotes carry great educational value.
kakobrekla: where are these ad slots you speak of
jurov: instead of these quotes.. kakobrekla, you'ere up to it?
akstunt600: and saw the bot and people mention mpex
pLambert: <mircea_popescu> jurov "don't wanna pay 30 btc ? use coinbr!" [12:17] <mircea_popescu> it even rhymes <<< What they hell, how is that even close to a rhyme?
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akstunt600: Thanks for the offer Azelphur
akstunt600: I guess yeah multisig solves these probems with trust too
jurov: i'll make an ads saying "coinbr is the legitimate broker" or what?
Shakespeare: there's one closer to me
Shakespeare: never been to the one in jax
artifexd: I'm partial to the beach
Shakespeare: though the next one will be in Berlin
BingoBoingo: benkay: Probably a confusion of ideas. The maid should have been a dockworker.
ozbot: Startups Compete For Crowdfunding Dollars In Person At The One Spark Festival - Forbes
Shakespeare: http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2014/04/11/startups-compete-for-crowdfunding-dollars-in-person-at-the-one-spark-festival/
Shakespeare: it's the annual IPO festival in Jacksonville this week
Azelphur: I still can't believe that haha, how could someone end up with one of those...and then just leave it in a box
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: you won't believe this :x, yesterday some guy got in contact with me wanting to start a bitcoin meetup for my area, I go meet him and he tells me he has something from butterfly labs and that he plugged the US power supply into our UK sockets and broke it, so it has been sitting in the box since, didn't know which model it was or whatever, so I agree to go take a look
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I was probably on about some game thing. I had to address the Carbon Monoxide detector.
akstunt600: oh well, nobody expects the spanish Inquisition
mircea_popescu: it'll get unfollowable otherwise
mircea_popescu: yeah and ideally keep the discussion in comments
mike_c: just in the blog comments
mircea_popescu: this thing with the order id keeps getting brought up for some reason
jurov: oh the joy *reads on*
mircea_popescu: mike_c the later, imo.
mike_c: is the goal to try to have some kind of proof in the case where a customer and mpex disagree on whether an order was accepted? or is is just to give the customer more tools to manage their orders.
mircea_popescu: mike_c me either ;/
mike_c: I am not getting a clear picture of the potential customer issues the MPEx rfc is aiming to fix. Perhaps I am being thick.
Shakespeare: if you can deal with idiot pollution like minersdidit, i'm allowed a wall of text here and there
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bounce: apparently the log will have to do for a pastebin too. amazing versatility.
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bounce: not the first time I hear someone complain that people don't pick up on this, and I'm probably extra double guilty, but from this armchair... er, well, it'll do, it's like, need a working culture of enthousiasm and picking up on things for people to do that. not everyone is enthousiastic from the get-go, but people'll pick up on it if the other sheep are doing it too, or if that's just the thing you do.
Shakespeare: they show a loss for past 2mos
mircea_popescu: i mean... what, they're going to keep it a secret ?
mircea_popescu: Shakespeare shockingly inept these people.
mircea_popescu: you'd think people'd jump on the change to play dolly house on my money, but somehow... nop.
mircea_popescu: bounce i bought a guild tavern, there's tons of decorations available. the position of "guild tavern designer" is pretty much oipen for the asking.
bounce: buy one share to see the report?
Shakespeare: lol the HIF qrtlyt report "only available to unit holders"
bounce: could try and organise a few community officers or whatever you'd like to call'em, have them organise meet-ups, in-game parties, whatever.
bounce has no idea what drives the generic gamer, though. been years since I happened to play along with a bunch of fanatical gamers. mostly starcraft on university computers.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's confounding then.
fluffypony: they should switch to floats. I hear good things about floats.
Shakespeare: the obnoxiously overpriced IPO was discussed mos ago
pLambert: yeah, it is havelock, maybe the price is so low it is not showing?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo hardly, that's the rub. game has tons of 12man team content, we;ve barely scratched the surface. item rarities go over 7 tiers, the best available atm is tier 4 or so.
pLambert: HIF just released their quarterly staement, price is dropping like a rock
mircea_popescu: i mean don;'t get me wrong, im not butthurt or anything, join a 2 year old game and own the top guild on one shard within what, 4-5 months is not trivial.
mircea_popescu: i guess if i go looking for it, the "they're just retarded" theory actually has a lot of support.
mircea_popescu: i've have enough of my hands full being pretty much... the marketmaker there. it's fucking ridiculous with these people.
Shakespeare: theyd probly all hate you anyway ;)
mircea_popescu: well that's the thing, i'm not about to spend a ton of time derping in guild chat or w/e.
Shakespeare: as soon as they hit any kind of obstacle or friction they will first think, well should i just own it myself?
artifexd: Maybe he/she wants to be revered. It is easier to be the big fish in a small pond.
mircea_popescu: im tempted to think that people are by now so fucking blinded by the idiocy of the us system that rather than aspire to live, they aspire to one day be the ones to give the orders.
Shakespeare: i bet theyd prefer to have a leader
mircea_popescu: nono i meant about the stake
mircea_popescu: then they joined the other guild. im like wtf you dummies, you three go join two dudes in a lvl 4 guild ? why don't they join you in your lvl 13 guild wtf.
Shakespeare: ask them why
mircea_popescu: some earlier dudes (whgich is when istarted suspecting i may have a problem) wanted permission to raid with some other guild. i was like fine
mircea_popescu: cause it's the most recent example, i guess.
mircea_popescu: chick in question ? didn't even know all this. tho it's on the fucking guild wall
Shakespeare: some guilds would try to tackle catering to all these things
Shakespeare: generally all these things are offering relevance
Shakespeare: then, like children, some people need order
Shakespeare: people play for different reasons, you cant cater to all of them
rithm: recently in #bitcoin-mining: <Meldrysha> i bought a antminer u2+. but cgminer or bfg miner cant find the antminer. can anyone help me with my bad english?^^
cazalla: you know you can have the best of both worlds with a meyer lemon, i have a tree, best lemons in the world
MisterE: but this shuts the country down like nothing else
MisterE: there are 3 Ney Years celebrations here
MisterE: my stomach is a rock so I dunno why i eat chilies by the truckload
pankkake: without the fiber it must be harder to digest
MisterE: in US I used to get the low acid concentraded OJ
pankkake: I like the small oranges, clementines and mandarins, maybe because I'm a filthy individualist?
MisterE: hmm I do like me a fresh orange juice in the morning but lately the acid is not my friend :/
mircea_popescu: imo the biggest drawback of xckd is his psychotic relation to sexuality.
mircea_popescu: i dunno man. i really see it there. i love myself a summer evening apple, but also a winter morning orange.
pankkake: https://xkcd.com/1354/ when you see it that way, you wonder how the fuck it wasn't found right away
Apocalyptic: <intgr> "Theo De Raadt just set OPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEAT on libssl for OpenBSD. Shame that the actual flag is OPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEATS, so the commit does nothing."
mircea_popescu: this isn't really meant as a first line "learn about bitcoin and share your feelings" venue anyway. there's the various forums and social media sites for that.
artifexd: Of course, that increases the chicken/egg problem. Maybe being ident would be enough?
pankkake: there was a troll?
artifexd: After the 12 hour troll fest in here last night, I wouldn't be surprised if #bitcoin-assets became +m and to get +v you had to be rated in the wot.
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mircea_popescu: is this the same dork that kept trying to pump ixcoin ?
Apocalyptic: they did
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: did they seriously misspell official?
Apocalyptic: these people...
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pankkake: castracoin should be enough then
pankkake: rape credits would be better. make them work like carbon credits
BingoBoingo: This is what, the seventh, eighth time already?
mircea_popescu: either that or rapecoin.
fluffypony: well there you go
MisterE: I read a city minted a coin, only the local gov can mine it, and they're giving it for charitable things people do to help the city. now you can exchange for a title or crappy council resolution but trying to make more incentives for it.
mircea_popescu: and every single nutty idea will try to pile itself on top of the train, as it were, just as long as they figure "thge train is going somewhere"
mircea_popescu: that's the winklevoss twins, in a word : scum facebook sorta-drug with it.
mircea_popescu: and every time something looks like it's going that way, the filth tries to hitch a ride.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony basically it's like this : society consists at all times of some people in the center, and a bunch of nuts at the edges. they are at the edges because they suck.
fluffypony: what in actual fuck are these people smoking
fluffypony: currencies are going to be traded in the very near future."
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cazalla: i think you can disregard any without 1 next to them
fluffypony: they're "significantly premined", so if two of them sell for 100 satoshi but there are 10 trillion premined
fluffypony: pankkake: looks much better than the actual site
cazalla: Isracoin has been doing ok, they're gonna have an airdrop, wonder if the palestinians will do that for them heh
MisterE: I know but chix sand not the worst and I do get cravings here
fluffypony: "Marinecoin is far ahead of its time, 5-10 years beyond traditional thinking. Let them make fun of you if they wish, for you will have your "Who is laughing now?" moment, guaranteed."
fluffypony: "Safari refresh couple of times if you don't see the entire webpage contents below."
pankkake: I should have made the bet last more, but April 1st was a good date
mircea_popescu: or their penises.
BingoBoingo: Dogers aren't the type to have discovered hedging yet though
mircea_popescu: ya but it never gathered 10 btc worth of interest iirc
MisterE: there's a bitbet about dog still worffing
mircea_popescu: MisterE the shit consists of nothing but trying to somehow buy press coverage. so... yeah. rumours.
mircea_popescu: in spite of having made ~70% losses on his total investment so far, and in spite of having managed to attreact the wrath of mp, dude still hopes.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yeah the buy was at 98
fluffypony: "This is a pump to say the least."
fluffypony: from Reddit: "It's a Bitcoin investor that is going to capitalize on the ingenuity and creativity of Dogecoin."
MisterE: mircea_popescu: tl;dr Thais are the nicest people money can buy.
mircea_popescu: i much prefer the european system (pedestrian have priority over anything)
MisterE: and anyone important here gets a police escort there's dozens maybe hundreds a day
MisterE: so pedestrians are on the bottom ofc and have to wait for everything, then motorbikes (mopeds), then cars, then trucks (medium size) then busses because state owned bug dgaf and will hammer you) then big trucks with like trailers and finally everyone yields to the lat model Mercedes Benz . This is because the Benz may be driven by a well connected person who could make problems for you so fucks in Benzes flaunt everyone
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla check that out, there's class warfare on bitbet
MisterE: oh check out how the right of way system works here...
mircea_popescu: humiliating the police force is pretty much the test. if they don't understand that they have to get out of the way of *some people* it ain't a country worth living in.
mircea_popescu: then get back to me about corrupt
MisterE: tbh it effects me very little maybe once every other month in a minor driving incident
mircea_popescu: MisterE try and tell a us cop that he either gets on his knees or he loses his job. then go pay his boss to fire him.
MisterE: I may have more respect for Asians who just say hell with it and lay it on the table
MisterE: yea shit gets done when the wheels are greased
MisterE: yes works to the foregners advantage almost always
mircea_popescu: the advantage of corrupt societies.
MisterE: I feel more free in reality here despite the nice piece of paper back in the US and my passport
MisterE: well it's got that but on the upside nobody fucks with you here the cops do nothing they dont see their pace to intervene in personal disputes, you must have personal responsibility
mircea_popescu: MisterE amusingly, that part i can see. unless you're willing to go to war for the throne, stfu about the king.
MisterE: the Lesse Majeste laws are what th is really know for being regressive about
mircea_popescu: i remember some ridiculous thing where some blogger said she found a cockroach in her soup and then had to take down the post because the eatery objected
MisterE: \\\truth is a defense if you can afford to defend yourself defamation is prosecuted by the state and has a very chilling effect
fluffypony: MisterE: indeed - that's the textbook I use for my Advanced Alcoholicist course
mircea_popescu: MisterE lmao and they're allowed to ?
MisterE: reminds me of talking about saving face, Thai Air plane went off runway recently, monor accident few people roughed up but before deplaning or doing anything they had a crew out there covering the Thai logs
MisterE: corps hate us because we will gut and assimilate them one day
mircea_popescu: this is here so i have what to link journos when they need to be told how to cover btc.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: CORE security flaw in the Bitcoin ponzi scam!
MisterE: right, proicks protecting their corporate friends
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, if it were some shitty service nobody heard of that happened to take btc ?
mircea_popescu: god fucking forbid they say EXPERIAN
mircea_popescu: "The North Carolina Attorney General's Office is now joining other states investigating a massive data breach at a credit reporting agency that has put 200 million Social Security numbers at risk."
mircea_popescu: haha which reminds me, there used to be this whore advertised as a cum grader
cazalla: mircea_popescu: tassie is small, i'll find an area with a school within an hour and the wife can drive him
mircea_popescu: cazalla with the kid ?!
mircea_popescu: haha we're exact opposite ends of the cycle. i'm sick of peace and quiet.
MisterE: it wore off now deciding what to do next and rural is definitely the way forward
mircea_popescu: (really, very small places throw the curve)
MisterE: my last place was about 80sqm, near the beach, a duplex, 2 bed 1nice bath and full kitchen (not often found here) and rent $230
mircea_popescu: food (actual, as opposed to whatever the fuck us fastfood is) will run you ten bux a day and so on
mircea_popescu: how not ? i've lived pretty much all over the world. living space costs you something in the range of a dollar per square foot per year.
MisterE: well you can't match the cost of living here in most places where Western comforts are available granted though I've given up on most of them just because of changing
mircea_popescu: the trick is to not live in rome, as it were.
mircea_popescu: really, this is true of most of the world outside of some very narrowly selected places.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu would retort with "who the fuck wants to fuck stupid people"
MisterE: I irc a lot and hang out at the foreign corespondent's club and stay sane that way
mircea_popescu: MisterE actually i think i get whart you mean re vacations. costa rica is a pleasure, but yeah the locals are really slow.
MisterE: old money here has been around for generations and nothing much has changed under the hood
mircea_popescu: who the fuck wants to be with stupid people.
fluffypony: btw pankkake, good article on another XXE issue in OpenID from earlier this year: http://www.sensepost.com/blog/10178.html
MisterE: they really are dumb I mean I dont want to be racist but Thailand is run and full of dumb people
mircea_popescu: so basically, thailand is a set of old landed gentry trying their best to stick to relevancy ? sorta like argentina ?
MisterE: they lost billions on a populist rice pledging scheme
MisterE: and all the boat people coming back to Vietnam with Western education things are booming there
MisterE: they buy their degrees from schools who dont make them work and are guaranteed work from family
MisterE: actually it's not a meritocracy, rich here often are the most stupid
fluffypony: oh FFS, our maid just broke another iron
MisterE: that and the no fail policy are why I left as fast as I did
MisterE: well it could be if used right but, since only wealthy kids here can afford Western teachers it's lazy dumb rich kids who cry to daddy when you try to get them to do anything productive then daddy calls school and teacher has a problem
MisterE: thats a terrible thing about the education system here teachers don't judge students because of the cultural / social hierarchy teachers are rated by students with rich parents
mircea_popescu: people usually harp about it, but this is why they do it.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony you've4 just explained the market incentive for ms windows to stay obscure and broken.
pankkake: by the way, if you like git, you can *diff* openoffice documents. https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitTips#How_to_use_git_to_track_OpenDocument_.28OpenOffice.2C_Koffice.29_files.3F
fluffypony: and the cycle continues
fluffypony: and then everyone goes back to MS Office
mircea_popescu: and you're doing more for a better world than any vegetarian/ecologist/occupywallstreet/other idjit.
mircea_popescu: anyway, your solution re the file problem : get them to migrate to open office, have their shit exported as whatever mark-up, it can be uploaded and validated on webserver.
fluffypony: but what I've seen happen is that some IT guy gets the bright idea to cut down on licensing costs by going OO/LO
pankkake: or other crap
MisterE: I dunno why they, Asians at least, simply can't get it in their head that there are other options.
fluffypony: yep I know, but they're afraid of it
fluffypony: cazalla: they have an education edition of office, can't remember what it's called, but it's cheaper - not free
MisterE: yea it's terrible I got out of teaching ASAP but good way to land in a country and get the lay of the land and make a few connections
MisterE: they absolutely know nothing else but Word Excel and FB
mircea_popescu: i never would, personally, which is why i don't teach there.
mircea_popescu: ok. i now appreciate the shit you folks have to deal it.
fluffypony: or try teaching them to use sql as an alternative
mircea_popescu: fluffypony you mean their cheap matlab clone ?
MisterE: with multiple vags they probably won't have to worry about typing to make money heh
fluffypony: well the reason Excel is so pervasive is because it allows for simple (and sometimes invalid/incorrect) data analysis for even the most non-technical
MisterE: the education system in many countries turns out the most low quality product I could ever imagine
mircea_popescu: just think about it ... chicks that could be walking around with synthetic vaginas in their tits
mircea_popescu: enrich their fucking minds damnit
mircea_popescu: this is how kids grow up to be 37 yo "senior counsel" that can't express itself in writing needs to talk on the phone.
MisterE: editingmovies on the fly heh
mircea_popescu: dun tell me they're "making changes" in photoshop