asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: only the 2nd best pill.
mircea_popescu: " Latinas apparently view mapache (aka. trash panda) as mystery critter" << that's pretty funny, seeing how... that's EXACTLY how people see latinas themselves!
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( raccoon, to euro folx, can look like exotic fairy tale beast, but it's effectively a dog-sized rat , can chew hole straight through the typical north ameristani wooden house ) << Latinas apparently view mapache (aka. trash panda) as mystery critter and protagonist of children's stories
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they have fields tho. and it apparently knows how to level a hectare/day, like boar
asciilifeform: ( raccoon, to euro folx, can look like exotic fairy tale beast, but it's effectively a dog-sized rat , can chew hole straight through the typical north ameristani wooden house )
BingoBoingo: Well, shipping container would be on the other side of the city. Could be airplane passenger
asciilifeform: there are nao raccoon, i recall, in germany, some idjit brought'em in
asciilifeform: ( difficult to picture nao, but at one time the rat was unknown west of urals )
asciilifeform: or prior : the rat
mircea_popescu: kinda how the plague m,oved, too. old history of shipping spreading... new ideas.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in orcistan where zoo snake still has glands, prolly the war museum has shells with live fuse still in, betcha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my recollection is that circus snakes are typically 'fixed', de-venomed. if was 'pet', then prolly belonged to hindu fella
asciilifeform: billymg: you may also take an interest in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1762 , tho the mechanism relies on friendship with existing l1 folx , and is considered experimental ( it is a means of insuring against catastrophic crypto breaks )
asciilifeform: only the display, presently, isn't.
asciilifeform: billymg: notice that you're self-voicing, so the actual mechanism is real-time.
mircea_popescu: iirc other than new voice model, a "flush addy" was also in deedbot upgrade spec.
mircea_popescu: oh. right then.
mircea_popescu: tattoo on slavegirls, whynot. then -- 3bn identicals!
asciilifeform: billymg: for some , ciphrogram printed on drum printer; for other folx -- burn a 1980s rom chip and put in a crate of 9000 identicals ; for yet others -- memorize ; very deeply personal preference
mircea_popescu: billymg this is altogether an open question.
asciilifeform has nfi what the english pilots call it. perhaps 'mccain pilotage'...
asciilifeform: losing key is the ultimate 'coarse error of pilotage', and it's happened before, so worth mentioning to all n00bz.
mircea_popescu: in any case, even if i say "basfii-liceform is actually asciilifeform 's new key, he managed to lose the old one", you'll be stuck speaking from the new name and depending on everyone evermore both a) encountering that notice and b) giving a shit, to jump the gap.
asciilifeform: billymg: the only way to ever change a key is to 1) sign with old 2) ask trinque politely. there are no 'emergency resets'.
mircea_popescu: well, folks who personally know other folks can beg for a rebirth cert from those other folks. not that it fixes everything.
asciilifeform: billymg: prolly this is obvious, but i'ma remind for the record : whatever you do, dun lose yer pgp key. it's your only connection to the wallet, pizarro, wot . nothing can be done for folx who lose key.
billymg: are the rockchip mini servers shared hosting as well? or is it 1:1 customer:hardware?
asciilifeform: there's 2 vacant rk boxes btw
billymg: somewhat related to an mp-wp theme, i'd very much like some reliable hosting. do i join #pizarro to ask about that?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-10 03:34 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859841 << hory shit, i still pay ~40. includes pretty girl, nice view, lots and lots of hygienic ritualism... and anesthetic, tho i don't take that.
mircea_popescu: btw, i utterly fucked up my maffs (i bring sake excuse) : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-10#1859954 tis not 40, tis 160. i applied the 2 factor wrong way.
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works because alien dragon being of pure energy, charges from wall socket.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am also missing-the-details on, e.g., exactly what hand feels like in a bear trap. but got enuff sense not to put it in, or go to sv..
a111: Logged on 2018-10-10 15:27 billymg: i have been working in the "tech industry" for about 10 years now, mostly as a ux designer but i can also produce code
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-10#1860043 << if you're very much dedicated to sticking to ux, eg eulora's client's in the early stages of being rewritten, Mocky may want you. otherwise, just pick something and whine at the owner, from v to whatever. write a mp-wp theme. there\s wghat to do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but you're missing the details, such as "girls complaint ? air corrodes tampon thread, can't pull them back out" sorta truly annoying interplay of general principles.
billymg: fwiw i'm in the nyc branch of sv (impossible to distinguish, i imagine, when on "campus")
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i only have a distant idea ( sorta like my idea of the atmosphere of venus )
mircea_popescu: they literally caged ~50k monkeys who have nothing to do all day. king of the flies is a joke, these are adults (well...) not highschoolers and tens of thousands not hundreds.
mircea_popescu: you have no idea (in fact, i am sure no human can form idea, as an attempt from first principles) what the frisco atmosphere is like these days.
mircea_popescu: are you the "BT" on diana_coman 's comment section ?
mircea_popescu: dude it's great waking up in the morning.
BingoBoingo: As this was a public auction, I am inclined to believe this is the number we should be using for invoicing.
BingoBoingo: In other news, today is pizarro invoicing day and hanbot's auction closed per "<lobbesbot> AUCTION # 367 has ENDED: 500usd via WU SOLD to BingoBoingo for 76mn coppers. Attn: hanbot" leading to a price of 6579 usd/BTC
asciilifeform reads the #e spamola, some of it is a++ lulz
billymg: i can pull together some older examples, will think about where to host/publish
billymg: i know it's the home of eulora
billymg: but i have worked a lot with those in the graphic/illustration side, so can speak their language and manage them through projects if need be
billymg: but more of the software interface variety. although i can also make things look aesthetically pleasing
asciilifeform: billymg: in my experience, if yer fiat shop is looking for a reason to sack you, they'll find one whether or not you posted anyffing 'interesting' ; and if not, and you're actually doing something useful there for the pay, then not
billymg: art not so much (not a designer of the graphic/illustrator variety)
asciilifeform: billymg: for so long as you avoid obvious hand-in-bear-trap in the vein of 'hi, i'm j. smith and i work for xyz corp and their product is liquishit' , generally nobody gives a shit
billymg: i have been working in the "tech industry" for about 10 years now, mostly as a ux designer but i can also produce code
billymg: i work for your typical sv company, which is my current connection to a fiat faucet, and for that reason i'd like to keep this identity separate from my fiat identity (to avoid an overzealous coworker who may stumble upon the logs trying to get me kicked for a CoC violation or whatever)
asciilifeform: otherwise won't work when you're newly plugged in
billymg: i don't mean to only lurk, i'm a long time log reader and am hoping i can be of service to any of the lords in their projects. by trade (as defined in fiat land at least) i am a ux designer and developer. happy to introduce myself in the channel if i am voiced again
billymg: first of all, apologies for cluttering the channel, i missed when my name was mentioned earlier
asciilifeform: there's a whole bunch of weird stuff in gnat, some of it potentially plunderable, some -- dunno -- e.g. a ~complete implementation of SNOBOL
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:52 diana_coman: hm, speaking of costa rica style...do they actually have hot water at the taps in costa rica (i.e. not shower only)?
BingoBoingo: Nah, not with all the circles. Too much for users.
Mocky: 'plus' was googles chance to play the role of bing, but to facebook
BingoBoingo: You should have seen the lines in April when it first opened
a111: Logged on 2018-10-10 01:30 asciilifeform: ... either via the usual means (instrumented node, spilling its peer table) or via brute force ( port scan 8333 )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-10#1859951 << i'd rather see the latter, if anyone feels like running it again.
Mocky: foto blog is in the pipeline, sometime after figuring out coffee and food
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859933 << wasn;'t this the wanna-be google facebook ? born out of some dispute where facebook was gonna wean them off its ugc feedpipe ?
phf: it's definitely a lag between the irc servers, because i got the same burst of your messages, while i was getting ascii in realtime
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:37 Mocky: asciilifeform, nice and warm. encountered a traffic wtf. stop light in the middle of the city with literal 10 minute cycle time in one direction ~20 seconds. took 3 cycles for my taxi to get thru
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859895 << alf has a point, the correct process for updating key should include delete old one before import new one. otherwise you just end up with dysfunctional historical midden.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:54 asciilifeform: Mocky: does the place live up to the reputation for 'top smog' ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:37 Mocky: asciilifeform, nice and warm. encountered a traffic wtf. stop light in the middle of the city with literal 10 minute cycle time in one direction ~20 seconds. took 3 cycles for my taxi to get thru
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859861 << there's a famous half hour one in boston.
phf: asciilifeform: i saw the last messages on btcbase, but i'm curious what if anything got lost
asciilifeform: hm, loox like the fleanode oddity mircea_popescu alluded to once, where mysterious 5min lag b/w fleanets
asciilifeform: ugh wat's going on with the log bots... both split..?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 17:59 asciilifeform back from dentist... new one better than prev, nao with anaesthetic! tho costs ~3x moar, pretty impressive inflatola, ~1k orcbux for ~halfhr of drill
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859841 << hory shit, i still pay ~40. includes pretty girl, nice view, lots and lots of hygienic ritualism... and anesthetic, tho i don't take that.
asciilifeform: ... either via the usual means (instrumented node, spilling its peer table) or via brute force ( port scan 8333 )
asciilifeform: imho could be interesting to attempt a similar survey , but without the asinine filtration ( and on top of this, to forgo listing the liquishit that makes up 99+% of the supposed net )
asciilifeform: ( granted if mircea_popescu has a mpb noad there, it won't show in in this heathen www , iirc they filter vers. #s <0.8 )
asciilifeform: the exception : r179-25-205-162.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy << dialup ?!
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ltRHd << per same, of the 4 public noadez in BingoBoingostan, 3 are in pizarro
asciilifeform: in related lulz, according to the above heathen noad surveyor , #1 pseudonode hoster aint lulazon any moar, but : hetzner ( 1029 , vs lulazon's 726 )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: recall, coupla yrs ago asciilifeform considered to buy one, then found he dun quite have the budget for the req'd terraforming
asciilifeform: reminds me of those blox of flats in bmore, where city brings out bulldozer when the 1 remaining old d00d in it finally keels
asciilifeform: lolyea got this from the qntra
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's the google thing Linus kept his almost blog on
phf: trinque: ack, but i've also noticed that if i were to import ascii's new key over ascii's old key it resets the expirations on both pub and sub, so let me figure out what's going
trinque would prefer phf just sign "I would like trinque to delete my key and reimport X" for sanity's sake, as it saves me from having to reason through whether this new key is an acceptable substitute for prev, incurring all the "how does gpg really work again?" and so on.
asciilifeform: phf: you should still be able to override the clock and sign a letter to trinque with old pub
phf: trinque: yeah, it basically appended all the new bits on top, and didn't reset the pub key's expire. you would have to do --delete-key before --import
asciilifeform: aah the prev yes
phf: asciilifeform: it looks like key updates got merge into the old key, rather than replacin it. the pub is the same, and hasn't been update (still marked as expired), but sub has been replaced, and is now "expired: never". it also added the new identity (where i removed the email) to the rest of the existing identities
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno if you know how the local racket worx, but 120bux is what i actually paid on site; but if i add up the insurance premiums, it's ~breakeven
asciilifeform: phf: the deedbot one still does contain a sign with today's date tho
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, the paste shows that i grab keys from both urls, and the deedbot one is still the old key
asciilifeform: phf: try the one that deedbot returns to !!key , it dun go
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> speaking of streets, street names appear totally optional, address can be a paragraph long description. << AHA, Montevideo killed that with sane street numbering, but apparently that happens in the boonies here
phf: trinque: i think something failed in the deedbot update, because the scrubbed key at link is proper. i've tested it, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cIIG6/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> asciilifeform, for ~1k bux you can probably fly to Ro and back and have the dentist treatment included too? << Also that sound like maybe 100-120 USD in Uruguay
asciilifeform: tho it could be artifact of gpg on trinque end, depending on how he keeps these ( if you use the built-in 'import' mechanism, it never throws out cruft )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:31 phf: i had expiration set on it, which i finally removed for good. the thinking at the time was that i didn't really trust my opsec (mac was still in the loop), but it wasn't much of thinking since the mechanism is promisetronic anyway. i also took an opportunity to clean it up off extra "identities" and random signatures
asciilifeform: phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859792 << ftr the crud-scrubbing didn't work either, various old cruft still apparently in there
trinque will bbl to further dissect
asciilifeform: ^ loox like the old one ?
asciilifeform: Mocky: i seem to recall that they have petro-smog
Mocky: the air looks quite smoggy, but also over the gulf and away from the city to the point where I wondered if it was actually smog
diana_coman: in costa rica I know they don't
diana_coman: hm, speaking of costa rica style...do they actually have hot water at the taps in costa rica (i.e. not shower only)?
Mocky: it was funny to fly over the rural areas of qatar and see so many traffic circles and ~25% have a branch that dead ends into desert. prepared for growth i guess
asciilifeform recalls mailing a FG to CR and address wouldn't fit on the customs form
Mocky: the building style is very different from what I've seen before, but ~all the signs include english subtitles for traffic and store fronts
Mocky: diana_coman, no worries, prolly better to expose the issue sooner than later
asciilifeform: eh we have these here in washingtonistan
Mocky: asciilifeform, nice and warm. encountered a traffic wtf. stop light in the middle of the city with literal 10 minute cycle time in one direction ~20 seconds. took 3 cycles for my taxi to get thru
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:20 diana_coman: Mocky, btw sorry for the mess up with your public key; did it actually create a problem other than the wrong wot.deedbot graph?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: erry so often i try an' search for some symptom that heathens know of trb etc., ~never found
diana_coman: (so perhaps there ...is somewhere, well hidden?)
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it's not as much those particular slides themselves - it's simply that I haven't seen anything *other that that* in *any* "academia" material/discussion anywhere
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:04 asciilifeform: 'As more people with less commitment to quality and much less attention to detail got involved in writing it, its educational value diminished, too. It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an in
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:11 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859786 -> I tend to agree; given how easily I could tell the poor lecturer what was in his inherited slides *before I even saw them*, I guess they literally have (echo of an echo)^n and it was anyway just some hearsay to start with
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859842 << erry so often, when using searchtrons, i run across some slide deck from e.g. uni of bangalore etc., they invariably have this flavour, where it is clear that deck itself was made from googlelolade ,
asciilifeform: by that token, cuba prolly even cheaper ( tho getting to it from the reich is a little tricky )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 18:15 diana_coman: asciilifeform, for ~1k bux you can probably fly to Ro and back and have the dentist treatment included too?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859844 << if not counting the time -- then just about == , i expect, to a few %
diana_coman: Mocky, btw sorry for the mess up with your public key; did it actually create a problem other than the wrong wot.deedbot graph?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, for ~1k bux you can probably fly to Ro and back and have the dentist treatment included too?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 16:12 lobbes: deliberate misinformation, it is simply that they have ~0 information to begin with
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-09#1859786 -> I tend to agree; given how easily I could tell the poor lecturer what was in his inherited slides *before I even saw them*, I guess they literally have (echo of an echo)^n and it was anyway just some hearsay to start with
asciilifeform back from dentist... new one better than prev, nao with anaesthetic! tho costs ~3x moar, pretty impressive inflatola, ~1k orcbux for ~halfhr of drill
mircea_popescu: off to the beach. plox not replace my key meanwhile.
asciilifeform: plenty of lulz in there
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 00:49 asciilifeform: the funniest bit is that anybody who spends a few $10k to find sha1 collision, can take it one step further and make a valid subkey for asciilifeform's, or mircea_popescu's, etc. key
a111: Logged on 2016-01-05 01:37 asciilifeform: anyone recall how mircea_popescu spewed chunks when i pointed out that he's been signing with a subkey and not with the magical modulus ?
mircea_popescu: then we'd know this is a
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you know what'd have been the lulz of all time ? if both pastes had the same 5digit id
mircea_popescu: trinque she has a point, that table needs a unique on the fp column. deedbot can't accept registeration of keys it's already seen.
diana_coman: but hm, does this mean that basically anyone can register the public keys and mess up the http://wot.deedbot.org/ ?
phf: but yeah, it comes up from time to time. i finally took time to observe the mechanism in action
phf: i was under the impression that the subkey gets created as a default genkey behavior, but then you can shuffle things around through edit-key. if you were to remove the subkey through edit key leaving only primary, gnupg refuses to use the primary for encryption.
mircea_popescu: phf we've all ranted about it at some time or another. needless to say replacement rsatron does not include idiotic half-baked state machines. much like trb-i doesn't include "accounts" nonsense.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, o.O apparently I ...did; and I found out how, as well: the crappy lappy on which I had the away account had imported a few public keys, first of which Mocky's
phf: in related apparently you can't have a key without a subkey. the whole primary key/subkey mechanism appears to be mandatory. i think asciilifeform might've ranted about it, but i've not seen it mentioned in the logs
phf: i had expiration set on it, which i finally removed for good. the thinking at the time was that i didn't really trust my opsec (mac was still in the loop), but it wasn't much of thinking since the mechanism is promisetronic anyway. i also took an opportunity to clean it up off extra "identities" and random signatures
lobbes: deliberate misinformation, it is simply that they have ~0 information to begin with
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 18:56 diana_coman: it's more a matter of wtf to do to get through to them in the least seeing how they are so ...far away on all dimensions to any reality
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859601 << far away they are. not too long ago I went to an "Understanding Cryptocurrencies and Blockchain" webinar type thing here at $usg.toobigtofailbank. As you'd expect, was filled to the brim with such lulzgems as "Unlike bonds/equities, cryptocurrency has no intrinsic value. No way to establish price point!!". imo They are so far from reality it isn't even
lobbes: congrats Mocky on the safe landing!
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in private : <nicoleci> now back to summarizing the logs everyone laughhs at :( <nicoleci> my lifes work <mircea_popescu> :D <mircea_popescu> can you believe how your life turned out btw ? <mircea_popescu> i mean, even in your darkest nightmares, "ima spend all day working really hard at this super tough task, only for everyone to laugh at my work" <nicoleci> nope, still unbelievable.. not sure when that reality wil
trinque: possible. there isn't a codepath to change a key, so I'd have to ponder what else might've happened.
mircea_popescu: maybe she had that in a buffer somewhere reg'd the wrong thing ?
mircea_popescu: trinque this shouldn't be possible, they have to confirm a reg right ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-09 06:09 Mocky: reminds me of 29 palms california. I guess desert pretty much the same everywhere
mircea_popescu: why be up to watch the atlantic slide by anyways!
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 23:38 trinque: truth. the new voicing behavior oughta help when it comes about.
Mocky: I had planned to visit imperial war museum and british museum, but didn't make it to either. I did see wellington arch, hyde park, buckingham palace and assorted others
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 16:31 mircea_popescu: good thing he placed a 30 hour gap there lmao. "what are you going to do in heathrow for that long !? " "fly back and forth repairing planes."
Mocky: took them ~2hrs to fix and had to power down plane which drained the battery from some other system which then had to be recharged before we could leave
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859485 >> we headed up the east coast from raleigh past dc, ny, and started over the atlantic at cape cod. shortly after cape cod we turned back to nyc. pilot said primary systems all functioning correctly but a backup system has a malfunction light on and they cant fly more than an hour from land like that.
diana_coman: at least they have internet!
Mocky: reminds me of 29 palms california. I guess desert pretty much the same everywhere
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859623 << this is what happened to that node when i ran it without the increased aggression patch
ben_vulpes: phones to line up nexthouse like a champ; the only things left are to get someone to install grates over the roof vents, rent the house, and skeeeeeedaddle.
ben_vulpes: in boring meatnyooz i liquidated the corvette (at a 16 2/3% loss from purchase, notbad given the damage i did to it experimenting with exciting nonstandard control regimes), hired cleaners, scheduled pianoanchor for transfer to a good friend remaining in libtardistan, basement is packed; girl has mucked augean stables of corporeal art school baggage, booked temporary housing at $dest and has been working the
ben_vulpes: apologies for the degredation in service, i have personal irc logs and will stitch them back into history
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You're welcome. Message made it into a logged channel, glad you debugged and reported the experience.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: tyvm for bringing that to my attention. i dropped the ball on service cutover. as mp astutely observed, the temporary host for these services is not a cuntoo, but some heathen convenience, conveniently different enough from my normal remote home that the logger for the ircbot refused to start, which (somehow!!!!!) fouled the bot's self reboot capabilities.
trinque: truth. the new voicing behavior oughta help when it comes about.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 18:54 asciilifeform envisions sumthing in the vein of hanbot's letter ( hey mod6 , did that ever get sent anywhere yet ? ) but obv the detail is up to diana_coman's skilled hand
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859589 << I didn't send, no. Should I replace Hanna's name in there and the phone number?
trinque: billymg: anyone back there, eh?
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought that we were rid of these
BingoBoingo: I'm not turning up anything in heathen pits but someone who maybe contributed more bugs to drupal
BingoBoingo: trinque: I submitted a comment clarifying that line concerned where the crap drugs are located
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, who the fuck is billymg ?
trinque: "Bingoboingo provided an update on where the good drugs are located" << these things are hysterical.
BingoBoingo: As mimi is not logging pizarro I present the latest report draft http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/XAMut/?raw=true for mod6 ben_vulpes asciilifeform and all other interested parties
asciilifeform: ( will be interesting to see what the dynamic is once we have chain/forklet-reorg plotter going )
asciilifeform: incidentally just cuz a heathen says he is 'current' dun mean much, reorgs are a thing
mod6: ok, i see some nodes drinking it down: https://bitnodes.earn.com/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/
mircea_popescu: (reference is to the perception of magician's acts)
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 16:28 asciilifeform: and if someone wants to mention godel etc -- ethical engineer MAY NOT cite godel, EVER, just as a police detective MAY NOT cite the supernatural and admit a hypothesis of miraculous theft from a safe
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the spirit of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663960 are you aware the age-honored mobster expression for "ran away/disappeared" is "took a powder", literally conflating the two FOR THE REASON of making your exact point in folkloric style ?
BingoBoingo: Anyways, presenting conservative sanity as thoughtful "minimalism" has tremendous social engineering value by brainfucking the pantsuit
mircea_popescu: diana_coman if you end up seeing Framedragger / jimmy hoffa / elvis tell them they're missed.
mircea_popescu: watch that she ends up with an academia chair, thereby having ended up in the exact latrine she was trying to avoid by virtue of the very hay she was avoiding it by!
diana_coman: I'll have to sit down and sketch for myself some clear options so that I know what I want from this; then I can serve it to them "take it or leave it" and that is that
mircea_popescu: the situation of white woman on amazon island is that whatever the fuck you talk about, it's dirigible-to-shitshack more interesting than whatever ~else~ they could be hearing about.
diana_coman: before talking of "blockchain technologies" I'd much rather talk of the whole non-technology part that is anyway more important
mircea_popescu: seriously tho, have them hook an irc client to a projector, that way it's "chance to hear" + "be remembered". already +ev.
diana_coman: aha, hence my "chance to hear" rather than anything else
mircea_popescu: won't likely help them anymore than ye olde story of prikoke, but what can you do.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman BingoBoingo has a point, including ample warnings of the dangers of hallucinated optionality, man-aloneism, following pr-rangerism, mit-ism, eterdation etc can't possibly hurt the young'uns.
mircea_popescu: ie, 90% of the bugsoup that produced delays before is removed, the remainder 10% will naturally stand out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whole orchestra too ; i dunno what state of improved patching it finds itself, but if it thereby "increased reliability" in an uniform manner...
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz re ben_vulpes : "nginx/1.10.3 (Ubuntu)".
BingoBoingo: Then again there have been other forklets to include in lectures of why "move fast and break things" doesn't work
asciilifeform: iirc BingoBoingo , and possibly mircea_popescu , have unadvertised/'stealth' noades, see if they're also ditto.
asciilifeform: all of http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html seems to be on 544911 just nao .
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in trb observatory... nuffin on surface. but! loox like all of trb planet stuck on 544911 ( heathens : 544928 )
mircea_popescu: hey, latinos are exactly like the chinese, but with samba si trabajo no gene extra. otherwise -- of fucking course they'll be copying some white man.
mircea_popescu: lulzy item. "let's mix the scary things!!!"
BingoBoingo: In other wild finds the local commies are making campaign materials to help Make Brasil Great Again: https://i.redd.it/q6olj8nxxyq11.jpg
asciilifeform: the chillunz may end up a bit confused when notice that there is no rsa in classical btc, but otherwise yes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun think i've yet met one, but i have 0 doubt that they are already on the jerb somewhere in ameristan
diana_coman: it's more a matter of wtf to do to get through to them in the least seeing how they are so ...far away on all dimensions to any reality
BingoBoingo: Ditto the trilema material on Bitcoin regulation
asciilifeform: imho http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/ is pretty good material for such a lecture
mircea_popescu: if you got the time and feel like it, go, why not.
BingoBoingo: I see nothing but upsides from diana_coman doing the lecture
diana_coman: the inherited slides are the usual mixture of "blockchain new techhxxx" + "ethereum!!!"
diana_coman: from my pov the whole gain if I'm doing this is precisely in giving at least students the *chance* to hear something other than the regurgitated bullshit
asciilifeform envisions sumthing in the vein of hanbot's letter ( hey mod6 , did that ever get sent anywhere yet ? ) but obv the detail is up to diana_coman's skilled hand
mircea_popescu: doesn't even have to be "trololol". things are what they are, the congregation of the weirdos are more than welcome to react however they can think of.
mircea_popescu: have them hook up an irc session to a projector, we can chat during.
mircea_popescu: so go, talk, why not. don't put up with any substantial shit, nor with more coincidental shit than you feel like. if they don't like it, they can shove it.
diana_coman: ftr the above comes after I pretty much demolished (at a kids' party of all places) the "content" the poor new lecturer had inherited
diana_coman: in other possible interesting things: I got invited to give a talk to students at local uni (Reading, UK) on "bitcoin and blockchain"; personally I'm not all that keen on it but given the recent ideas regarding reach out and all that, I am at least considering this; any input on this is welcome
BingoBoingo: In other lolz: Diputado del FA advirtió que “nos conviene estar en buenas relaciones” con Bolsonaro
asciilifeform: ( and where next emperor tallied up the ev and ended up ordering ~all~ boats bigger than fisherman's tub, burned... )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wasn't even all 'paper' tho -- recall the enuch vizier d00d, picking up elephants, giraffes, from africa in 1500s on maersk-sized boat
mircea_popescu: as i say -- the young hussies already are looking for slavery and abjection, in contrast to their stupid mulas and stramulas. from rotherham to anytown, usa, the 15 yo is saying "please, beat, rape and light me on fire -- anything whatsoever but having to talk with my kinmorons."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they got time. so do i. it'll make more, eventually.
asciilifeform: ( recall the ancient tale of the 'money printer machine' scam, where it was preloaded with coupla benjies )