nubbins`: apparently the original picture was a tweet directed at american airlines
mircea_popescu: they probably accidentally sent her a care package full of dongs
BingoBoingo: That and the run up to $1200/BTC
BingoBoingo: I think the Seals breach pretty much killed BTC poker.
BingoBoingo: Chicken wings, then wyngz, wyngs don't sell... revert to chicken
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo omit :D to emit is the act committed by the emittor of emissions, whereas to omit is the act of the omittor of omissions
asciilifeform: post office slave claimed they were made to watch 'training' films of burning planes
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: A number of watches still use silver oxide cells... << the better ones, anyway.
asciilifeform: 'it had lithium cells in the cargo!'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if it's safe enough for the road it can't not be safe enough for teh planes :D
BingoBoingo: Now... A lot of similar batteries in the same form factor will emit the long form labeling and the naming tends to be less complete.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I changed watch batteries at a mall kiosk years back. I still see them on the shelves. There's still many available
asciilifeform: TestingUnoDosTre: found the battery crap when mailing a package and they now ask 'no lithium batteries, swear?'
adolf_fishler: the hitlers were a good people
asciilifeform: adolf_fishler get in the wot.
TestingUnoDosTre: <asciilifeform> laughable at best - "ICAO does not consider these changes will necessarily reduce incidents involving lithium batteries; but they will significantly improve safety."
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nubbins`: altho tbh i generally just walk to the bank
BingoBoingo: artifexd: I actually probably would have been more likely to have written this http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/baseballs-new-strategy-drop-the-ball-on-purpose/
thestringpuller: i feel like I should jump the bandwagon for when it bubbles
benkay: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/19_the-tragedy-of-remote-hands-canadian-bitcoins-robbed-of-14394.html
benkay: mircea_popescu: would you tell @patrickmcguire that i broke the canadian bitcoins story a month ago?
benkay: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/19_the-tragedy-of-remote-hands-canadian-bitcoins-robbed-of-14394.html re canada and bitcoins
Apocalyptic: so kakobrekla how is thing atc.blockr.io thing going ? they are integrating x-bt or not ?
kakobrekla: i got the notice.
nubbins`: ah, i didn't get one these past two joins
BingoBoingo: MP had a good writeup on the subject of Address reuse being good for certain kinds of privacy, but finding it might take some digging.
BingoBoingo: There are a number of reasons to want wallets with different kinds of behavior. For some purposes different change addresses is a bug.
fluffypony: and the rest are all deterministic, including your change addresses
fluffypony: so you make sure you have the privkeys backed up/written down for your random addresses
dignork: fluffypony, you can, but then you'll have to treat your wallet as non-deterministic
BingoBoingo: I like the Multibit interface more for handling multiple wallet, but I'm liking Electrum more and more as I play with it. I just wish there was a good solution for handling both Deterministic and random generation wallets.
Apocalyptic: <jurov> and at least they admitted the problem // that's not something you see everyday in this industry indeed
jurov: yes. except for one small case where they insist routing of traffic between paris and aws ireland via the US
fluffypony: jurov: didn't even know they have a VPS offering
BingoBoingo: (or other older architectures would be welcome)
fluffypony: pankkake: had an average-ish experience with them a while back, will give them another spin
fluffypony: any recommendations for a reasonable VPS provider that won't throw a tantrum if I run a bitcoin node? DigitalOcean want me to provide DNA samples and ownership of my unborn child to allow me to create a new VPS (despite having two hosted with them for the past 18 months)
mike_c: it got pissed about the new elitism.
artifexd: It isn't even in the channel
TestingUnoDosTre: Funny comment from the pi calculation slashdot article" Goddamn mathematician wasting precious ammunition to have a statistics wank-fest after MY goddamn zombie apocalypse?
TestingUnoDosTre: Was worried the world wide web was invented by a guy that just recently wants to format an opinion on password managers. Phew
TestingUnoDosTre: That's not the real Timothy B Lee, right?
BingoBoingo: Java programmers who merely stitch together libraries and want embeded chips capable of running Java when a Z80 would be fine
BingoBoingo: on the subject
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BingoBoingo: Really this is just the case of doing something already know yet forgotten and presenting it as a new scoop.
asciilifeform: it wasn't part of the curriculum, as far as i recall
asciilifeform: even here they have chalk.
BingoBoingo: Indeed. It is simply amazing though that it can be done with off the shelf equipment from Walmart's sporting goods section
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the simplest test of rng bias involves exactly this kind of calculation
BingoBoingo: http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/04/14/1144256/mathematicians-use-mossberg-500-pump-action-shotgun-to-calculate-pi
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pankkake: mircea_popescu: about the image board thing, I don't know if there is an actual demand. I'll see how expensive (in terms of maintenance) it is in the coming days
pankkake: or maybe you can commission the rosebud guy
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bounce: the great unwashed and shutting up. there's an idea. though we'd be left with spambots. indiscernible, perhaps, but not an improvement.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "If I believe at any point there is value or use in them I can just… take… them. If experience is any guide, I shall take them the next day" << do you reccommend that as a general strategy?
mircea_popescu: lol. think of the implications had they discovered it in the cod's tail rather than stomach.
mircea_popescu: what's this ? the sheep bladder system ?
bounce: they did used to have technology, like that earthquake detector, that they subsequently forgot how to make work. bit sloppy for a state to forget its own achievements, and not even the excuse of getting toppled and replaced
mircea_popescu: they were eating rice anyway.
bounce: you're saying that communism has turned out irrelevant to the chinese
mircea_popescu: even things the russians mistake for "slav spirit" are about as chinese as it can be.
mircea_popescu: this has been china for pretty much the entire interval
mircea_popescu: buncha equal peons, and the emperor drunk out of his mind. between these, a bureaucracy, completely arbitrarily "educated" by rote.
mircea_popescu: i don't think they were ever anything else.
bounce: anyway, china going communist has, well, at least given a different flavour to the thing. wonder if and when they're going to do something about that
benkay: well the things are real. the constructs i wrap around them are just figments of my own mind.
mircea_popescu: is the world for real, or just pretense ?
TestingUnoDosTre: Translate the tornatore
bounce: china was always quite a lot self-centered. this appears to be a bit less the case of late.
mircea_popescu: or in the words of tornatore (uomo delle stelle), "e il mondo vero, or solo per finta ?"
benkay: just a mass of undifferentiated atoms banging off each other
mircea_popescu: benkay no but on the naively nominalist view that "you" existed sincer forever and will exist forever. soul or w/e.
mircea_popescu: the steady state of planet earth is china being teh world empire
benkay: everything oscillates. there is no such thing as steady state in natural systems.
bounce: interesting to see the differences. as an up-and-coming empire they're occasionally serious about appearing to be a functional government (as well as not that respectful of human life; they feel they have too many people running around already), where the US, er, works a bit differently.
mircea_popescu: yet the chinese routinely shoot people for 1mn
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and the thing is, god help you if you sell the chinese golden toilets. afaik nobody got shot when it was discovered haliburton "misplaced" 1 bn in the various senatorial etc campaign slushfunds in iraq
bounce: not just 4chan. slashdot is another
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/04/14/new_sipri_data_russia_china_and_saudi_arabia_dramatically_increase_arms.html
mircea_popescu: only one i can think of. and the definition of "fine" must be pretty... broad.
bounce: there's places that allow 'true' unnamed discussion and have it work fine, too
mircea_popescu: "The magazine couldnt afford moderators, as many news organizations cant." herp.
bounce: I'm reminded of the register, where they used to moderate each and every comment, and then gradually lifted the requirement. they have a reasonably vibrant commenter community, without requiring facebook or real names or what-have-you.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic i wonder if they'll do a wot-based +m :D
mircea_popescu: the thing goes offline w/o coolant.
mircea_popescu: bounce not really. all the bullet needs to do is perforate the coolant room. anywhere.
bounce: or that. anything to cause a nice electrical fire. bullets have a harder time there, despite their awesome speed. substations are like that.
mircea_popescu: bounce how so ? do the energy calc.
mircea_popescu: they're conveniently forgetting to mention the ominous part where the attackers disabled the security with minimal, expert moves.
benkay: (how the fuck do you snipe *anything* inside a substation - lines of sight have to be like 20ft max)
bounce: what was it again, guaranteed (low) prices for consumers and "free market" stupidity for suppliers, in california, that led to under-investing in infrastructure and utilities basically bleeding themselves dry, leading to years to come full of brownouts and blackouts
fluffypony: the Electricity Ninja cometh...
mircea_popescu: it's gonna be a long hot summer boys and girls. no better way to get the masses to believe in global warming than keeping them without ac for a summer.
ozbot: It's way too easy to cause a massive blackout in the US - Vox
mircea_popescu: fucking kiss of death, this, only commodified businesses have the time. finance is dead.
TestingUnoDosTre: Fun fact: someone I know sent to a dispensary in Denver that sold bath salts, but the cashier had to warn" not the ones you're thinking of"
mircea_popescu: TestingUnoDosTre they were prolly doing bath salts
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mircea_popescu: http://www.havenews.com/news/local-news/havelock-police-bust-party-charge-mother-teens-with-alcohol-offenses-1.301928
mircea_popescu: in other news,
mircea_popescu: benkay i'm just being steganographical. see because sometimes the things i say are in reality secret messages for uknown third parties according to secret schemes of encoding and so forth.
BingoBoingo: I've just been locking the price into a range I find sustainable and magic happens
Apocalyptic: I heard the price is up 50% from last week, he better :)
mircea_popescu: Namworld:Depends on the sort of capital they have. Gox's name isn't what's doomed. << you gotta be kiddin' me.
thestringpuller: what makes atc a currency then?
mircea_popescu: a well. wrong arizona then :p
mike_c: the mediawiki scammers have bots that solve captcha. apparently that is more important than bitstamp.
mircea_popescu: i think the answer is self-oblivious.
kakobrekla: >API calls are returning a captcha page. Regular visits to the site do so as well, but unlike me, my bot is unable to solve the captcha on its own.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay http://trilema.com/2014/the-discreet-escort-or-how-bitcoin-makes-prostitution-unprosecutable/ ask and ye shall receive.
mike_c: i would think that would be the case. i would welcome an analysis of that topic with numbers and examples :)
mike_c: not sure what you mean by traditionally. generally in betting you can only close your bet by taking the other side
los_pantalones: just started looking into it and was trying to get my head around some of the bigger bets
los_pantalones: but in this case there is a penalty to closing your bet
los_pantalones: so, there is opportunity cost
peterl: There are probably different results if the resolution date is known (like X will win on such date) vs bets with unknown and possibly early resolving dates (like X will stay above Y until such date)
mircea_popescu: bounce publish on your blog, link to the offensive thing, omfg we're creating value out of nowhere!
bounce: afraid I'm gonna have to do a writeup. n'mind until then.
mike_c: los_pantalones: if you're working on that, something that I have always felt about exponential time decay is that it is really no better than just closing the bet early.
nubbins`: everyone went down to the waterfront to watch it come in ;(
mircea_popescu: do you understand the difference between a good and a not so good bug report ?
bounce: apropos, that nurture-not-nature for elitism argument isn't very well developed. nice examples, but I don't see'em supporting the premise.
mircea_popescu: artifexd: Because, seriously, who the fuck am I? << you were here at the right time lol. what the fuck do you imagine a barony is ? exactly that, review the early english history :D
mircea_popescu: bounce no, but we can still talk. either are excesses : omg can't talk to no-one except other rear admirals / omg everyone i talk to is exactly like me. middle fucking bitcoineus i say!
mircea_popescu: Here, mircea and I should not exist in the same caste. I'm just a normal dude. He's a Romanian Billionare. WITH A B! I can conceive of no reason that someone that high up the food chain would give two shits about what I think or why I think it. << it's the internet, dood. why else did you think it was revolutionary ?
TestingUnoDosTre: And then acronyms came and fixed it all
mircea_popescu: or at least make such a complete mess of everything nobody'll be able to entangle it and everyone'll just move on to another language.
mircea_popescu: then no earthquake.
mircea_popescu: srsly. this really should be part of obamacare. any woman over 30 may get her tits fixed, take the stuff out upon retirement.
mircea_popescu: i guess the next logical step is silicone implants
TestingUnoDosTre: With the device? If so, usb probly is more secure
bounce: "retrieve coins" would be the point, I suppose. which apparently involves destroying the thing.
mircea_popescu: "here's this bit of plastic. make it orgasm, you may spend your bitcoin. otherwise... make someone else orgasm, spend their bitcoin"
jurov: someone actually acted on the hookers+microphone proposal?
bounce: apparently my google-fu is lacking. anyway, $source thinks they need to go down before they manage to rake in funding. that'd be the message.
dexX7: there is a nfc chip inside
kakobrekla: it shines but where are the keys ?
joecool: goes along with the farts
bounce: so hire'im on condition he only thinks about marketeering, and leaves the other pretense at the door.
mircea_popescu: lol. i see what you did there!
bounce: did urbit make it to the bbc, boing boing, something I can't decipher, wired, el grauniad, AND tech radar?
mircea_popescu: imagine the fun on board!
mircea_popescu: the only project in history to have actually fielded leaky submarines.
mircea_popescu: urbit there we go
bounce: +0 and -0, 'cuz all you need is the sign, right?
nubbins`: (see what i did there?)
Anduck: their faq doesnt work
mircea_popescu: wait, no submarines ? i liked the submarines and dukedoms and reversed true/false numeric values idea better
mircea_popescu: "I'll be making money in the form of a small percentage of grid income, since I will establish myself as an active and effective grid owner of one of the most advanced grids out there. Maybe I'll also have a few DA's that are easily supported by the Bitcloud platform, too."
bounce: apparently they've been at it for months, not getting anywhere, and now are looking for funding?
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mircea_popescu: artifexd it's an educated guess, like anything else. the educated part is significant, but i've not published it. it's a complicated thing, this. i tend to readily publish the dirt on actors when they fuck up, like the sec misadventure. but it's kind-of unsportsmanlike to do the same when they're just acting rationally. anyway, complicated matter.
fluffypony: but other than that, no
jurov: fluffypony: is the squatter doing anytihng interesting?
ThickAsThieves: the gribble dribble!
pankkake: oh you can see them that way… I know I missed one with a typo and it must have expired
mircea_popescu: ahaha! check out the GRIBBLE HEARTBLEED
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03u dood, there's no u in mircea
Anduck: what is the service?
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ThickAsThieves: ah mp, i just sent a ;;later tell, forgetting the user list is reordered by +
mircea_popescu: fluffypony oh that ? the greeks had it. here's an example :
mircea_popescu: da fuck, if you're gonna refer to unrelated matters in your captatio, at least get the facts straight. snowden was a contractor not an agent.
fluffypony: "Absolutely stability cryptographic system – it’s a system that CAN BE DECIPHERED NEVER AND BY NOBODY AT ANY LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT OF A SCIENCE AND COMPUTER FACILITIES (it can’t be cracked even with the help of supercomputers, for example – with the use of the developed quantum computer, even if it is completely developed in the future, because the RMX protection system is released on a new class of mathematical functions unknown to moder
mircea_popescu: "After the scandal around the National Security Agency (NSA ) of the USA and after revelations of the ex-agent of CIA Edward Snowden it became known that NSA can crack cryptoprotection of Internet communications. "
fluffypony: "THE FIRST CRYPTOGRAPHIC SYSTEM WITH ABSOLUTE STABILITY"
pankkake: the "flagman"? lol
pankkake: argh, inconsistent usage of spaces around parenthesis
BingoBoingo: English may be rather flexible, but Texas is less so
mircea_popescu: well... there were no thousands of armed people marching on waco from six states
mircea_popescu: very. cause everyone is comparing it to the waco thing.
BingoBoingo: At least it is a very different thing so far than what would have happened in the 90's
mircea_popescu: not that it'll work, but that's the very substance of statal collapse : reasonable measures no longer actually work.
mircea_popescu: can resume at a later time, when teh people have had time to grind themselves down.
mircea_popescu: it's what i'd do too. if the guy takes the cattle away, problem solved. if he doesn't, then by definition they'll still be there,
BingoBoingo: Looks like it, or at least they are "pausing" it
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/04/12/cliven_bundy_feds_halt_nevada_cattle_seizure.html
mircea_popescu: yeah, didn't the blm leave ?
mircea_popescu: in other news.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you see that ? "thanks for the 60 minutes of fun" the man says. why can't you be more like that!
los_pantalones: k, thanks for the 60 minutes of fun
los_pantalones: and see if that would critically impact other prior bets
los_pantalones: i was going to find the optimal time to bet
mircea_popescu: to leverage the fact that we have a 50 year history of price signal in that asset.
mircea_popescu: a good approach, perhaps, would be to create a class of similar bets and follow them over the history of brk.a
mircea_popescu: i can see either side.
los_pantalones: can i ask if you are pro/anti the accelerated decay argument?
mircea_popescu: then if i don't understand wtf you're saying ima ask somebody to read it to me.
mircea_popescu: you can assume complete and absolute comprehension on the part of -assets, like you were talking to god.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as i've run 90%+ of all option volume on btc/usd i nthe history of btc, i would say yes.
los_pantalones: yeah, learning the ropes here
mircea_popescu: (see the prev day too, it was a lengthy discussion)
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones i was hoping for something more along the lines of a set of numeric examples, or in any sense some math analysis. opinion based we've had already, such as for instance :
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los_pantalones: here's the email
los_pantalones: was getting my head around them
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