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Duffer1: is there bitcointalk !bash?
Duffer1: "To be an investor you simply need to invest money. There is no minimum or qualifications like you imagine." - Jimmothy
benkay: nm then
dub: fuck if Im taking keys to somewhere my bank balance alone is more than 1000 people earn in their lifetime
benkay: some days i'm just hopping onto an available web client and don't feel like iterating through the list of people i know in the chan manually to get upped
benkay: so that when i'm on a roaming connection i can get everyone's attention for the !up at once lol
kakobrekla: i can see the comment
benkay: they're hidden.
mircea_popescu: benkay why should they signal ? if anyone sees some interesting looking new people they can voice them.
mircea_popescu: benkay do i have to install some sort of special software to see these comments ?
benkay: - some mechanism for new blood to signal they'd like voice
mircea_popescu: the irony here being that his comment about moderation ended up in spam
mike_c: perhaps "The named individual is in fact at the time of this agreement the sole proprietor of MPIF and the operator of MPEx, and they were represented..."
kakobrekla: i dont see the contract up?
mircea_popescu: but issuing shares after the agreemnet.
mike_c: sole proprietor means you get all the money.
mircea_popescu: yeah maybe not the best wording. still, i am controlling both things, and so forth.
mike_c: "The named individual is in fact at the time of this agreement the sole proprietor and operator of both named corporations,"
ThickAsThieves: "as much as 69 percent of extra virgin olive oil in the US is substandard"
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: pfffft, then you should go and change authorised to authorized :-P
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mircea_popescu: http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/24/cops-found-nothing-in-raid-so-they-planted-drugs-to-frame-innocent-woman/
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: otherwise it looks all good
mircea_popescu: anyway. this thing is freely and amply advertised. your shyness in naming the other clearly makes the point :
dub: its on a network with no services and most of the people have 1 or 2 degrees RL separation, all net eng types
mircea_popescu: g to their mortgages to determine if there is an issue with their propertys chain of title or verify if there is a free, clear and legally traceable ownership of their homes.
mircea_popescu: The bankruptcy terms allows Berkshire Hathaway and Ocwen to purchase over $400 billion worth of mortgages and RMBS trusts for less than $5 billion. Once these mortgages are sold, Berkshire Hathaway and Ocwen will be bankruptcy remote. That means that once the mortgage assets are sold to them, American homeowners, like Morse, will not be able to obtain, through discovery, in judicial proceedings, the documents pertainin
mircea_popescu: According to court documents, the second amended Joint Chapter 11 Plan, approved on December 13, 2013 allows for the liquidation of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of homeowners mortgages to legendary business billionaire magnatethe fourth richest man in the world, according to Forbes, Warren Buffetts Berkshire Hathaway, Inc. and Ocwen Loan Servicing, L.L.C.
fluffypony: instead of the normal join -> derp -> "hey here's a link to my IPO for AwesomeCasino 3.9"
mircea_popescu: rather than "well... guess what... i suck"
mircea_popescu: dub the impersonality of it is quite important. people are otherwise too inclined to figure " ican't talk because x is mean"
mircea_popescu: it's like... "198470598094385 updates!!11" then you look... three people favourited five things.
dub: ThickAsThieves: indistinguishable from removing the casual derptroll imo
mircea_popescu: i swear, twitter has got the art and science of making it look like shit happened when nothing occured down to a fine point.
mircea_popescu: the sort that then stomps on the balls of everyone else and sends them to work in the mines of cambodia
fluffypony: I don't think the issue is spam
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo there ?
dub: I couldnt at the time :)
benkay: yup right there in spam
benkay: nobody's clawing their way north, speshully in teh us
dub: mp: point is the 'any man can claw his way north' politics that lets most people sleep an night is clearly bunk here
dub: so, any auxillary factor or guradian angel bullshit aside, they are fucked
dub: the kid was not exceptional
dub: and now their former overlords (frenchies) or western capitalists own all the means of production and basically work the native population to death
dub: the majority of his peers have inhereted their parents placitude meaning he's isolated, he can't build useful networks or get much help from anyone
mircea_popescu: which is why rather than paying tax you'd be better off picking kids off the street in cambodia
dub: they probably fought for pol pot, it was a chinese backed communist coup
mircea_popescu: sucks for him, too, seeing how the random people in a position to be charitable are trained not to be.
mircea_popescu: which means their kid now has to depend on random people's charity.
mircea_popescu: his parents failed to die fighting pol pot to protect the cool people of cambodia
dub: probably only enough to sustain their 9 kids
dub: his parents survived meaning they farm rice
dub: thats almost all of the kids
mircea_popescu: they should slave. forever.
mircea_popescu: i really have no fucking sympathy for peoples that failed to protect their elites.
dub: they slave
mircea_popescu: so what do they do
dub: they just don't seem to have any means to improve, under the 'murica way type bullshit sentiment capitalism relies on
dub: khmer rouge etc, but they were subjugated long before that and still are
dub: interesting study of the nigger dilemna there, a generation ago all the smart people were removed
dub: that is shopped I can tell by the pixels and etcetc
dub: a) the gender of that thing is unclear b) looks like a shitty 'your message here' generator things
dub: it doesnt hurt me but it puts him in the same bucket as ukyo
mircea_popescu: just as long as he's not "sharing" or w/e bullshit the bovines engage in.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, there's an infinite supply of pompous idiots, and an infinite supply of fecal "consensus" these shitheads readily adhere to.
mircea_popescu: an exact mirroring of the infinite hitpoints problem : society strictly exists because of the trolls.
mircea_popescu: ever since the 90s, various pompous idiots du jour have been rehashing thins nonsense about "how bad trolls are".
mircea_popescu: notice that it's published by the... climate desk.
fluffypony: when you look at that visual MS and Apple are the kings in terms of turning a profit, Google to a lesser degree
bitcoinpete: but there's more than 3 of us
bitcoinpete: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/26/exodus-from-egypt/ <<ThickAsThieves benkay asciilifeform and their asylum
bitcoinpete: i'd rather air miles
fluffypony: "please tip the author...who wasn't me..."
bitcoinpete: just like it's all about the words
bitcoinpete: it's all about the feelingz
bitcoinpete: nice fluffypony: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/#comment-1358111132
fluffypony: On Friday, the Ohio Department of Public Safety ruled that "Bitcoin cannot be accepted as payment for alcohol in the State of Ohio."
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mike_c: not worth the hassle?
jurov: benkay if you really do, i'm having a few serious words with you then
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah the AN-225 is neat but only one built I think. The An-124 is more closely competitive with the C-5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-124 (call these guys if you need one http://www.poletairlines.com/) It would be ideal for porting your submarine from one ocean to another.
Naphex: withdrawals are blocked from the API atm, so withdrawals only from frontend
Naphex: but the website is meant too ease up stuff for regular folks
Naphex: not really, just in the frontend
benkay: i imagine the u/p requirement is baked in pretty hard by your framework?
Naphex: with gpg auth the flow is going to be username/pass -> gpg otp -> logged in
Naphex: already started work on implementing gpg otp in the validation server
benkay: locals are asking about where to trade these days
ThickAsThieves: btw someone here recommend i watch the Black Mirror, turns out I already saw it, and had been trying to remember it for a while cuz i liked episode 2
mircea_popescu: check out the dice better
jurov: the result is 4e6 watts? maybe i have an error
mike_c: artifexd: nethash is through the roof too. altcoin is just booming in general.
artifexd: Last ATC trade was at 224 satoshis. BingoBoingo pushing up the price?
benkay: or if you're doing something like a phased microwave array around the planet, coating the bottom of the vehicle with a microwave rectifier
jurov: the saving would be disproportionally big
jurov: but even if it can replace only 30% energy that is otherwise needed to get by burning fuel
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, how many lux are needed to boil a mol of water ?
mircea_popescu: well then i don't follow.
mircea_popescu: the only place where it'd matter would be if the part of wire with high mommentum was lighter than the parts surrounding it. this isn't going to happen.
mircea_popescu: jurov the weight has very little to do with oscillation.
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jurov: and again, i'm not sure the pull stress on fiber will end up so big. fiber is already in use for to communicate with mother ship
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asciilifeform: i.e. how are you to convert the light into usable thrust.
asciilifeform: (note what shape the world's talles buildings were prior to structural steel.)
mircea_popescu: that means i pick the length, not you
artifexd: And in others it would be 100km across.
artifexd: Truly random would mean that at some point the diameter would be 0.
asciilifeform: the only elevator scheme described to date, afaik, that stands a chance of working, is... 'tower of babel.'
artifexd: I would think that the minimum diameter (given similar materials) would determine the breaking point, not whether the diameter of this cross section is the same as the cross section 100 ft away.
mircea_popescu: the first serious capitalist building was... a rope factory.
mircea_popescu: that longest length of rope valueestablishes the largest ship you can build, i nthe age of sail
mircea_popescu: it works like this : the quality of the rope (ie, its uniformity) establishes the longest length of rope that can be operated credibly
mircea_popescu: do you know what was the first industrial product, and the one thing that started the industrial revolution ?
jurov: don't forget the length (and harmonic freq) will change dramamtically over time
mircea_popescu: artifexd this leads you to the problem of the rope. do you know the problem of the rope ?
artifexd: Reduce the quality control on the fiber productions in order to introduce random variations in the fiber thickness and thus harmonic frequencies.
mircea_popescu: so do the math. calculate the the maximum shear force that can occur in a taut fiber of arbitrary length ?
jurov: neds to be simulated/computed. but i hope for such thin fiber, the air is viscouous enough so that it will dampen it
mircea_popescu: at any arbitrary point 100km worth of air can decide to sing traviata into your fiber and there's jack shit you can do about it.
mircea_popescu: and the glass popped
mircea_popescu: caused by the medium going harmonic.
benkay: these things stack.
jurov: mircea_popescu: since the fiber is very light, major factor will be air drag (should be minimal in case first 100km of takeoff is vertical takeoff)
benkay: bonuses in preheating the h2 by cooling incoming air
jurov: benkay: it still must carry half of the fuel
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mircea_popescu: jurov ever calculated the maximum shear force that can occur in a taut fiber of arbitrary length ?
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> i doubt he cares THAT much << i can't imagine either.
benkay: more attainable within our lifetimes, jurov, is the rocket engine that uses ambient oxidizer to mach 5.
fluffypony: asciilifeform: just use the Web of Thrust
asciilifeform: (ignoring, for a moment, the purpose of suspending 100km of fiber, sans payload)
asciilifeform: then, pesky problem of thrust.
fluffypony: kakobrekla: the "please…" line was when he rage-quit
jurov: that's about the volume of 100km monomode fiber
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
fluffypony: there was a rage-quit
asciilifeform: then, wind on cross-section of 1km * 0.1mm (or whatever thickness)
mircea_popescu: that's the volume of 100km of 1mm squared.
fluffypony: pankkake kicking ass and taking names on the forum today
asciilifeform: other nuances. calculate electric potential difference between top and bottom.
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artifexd: I always assume that the usg has always-on access to my bank accounts. I guess I should start assuming the same with my coinbase activities.
artifexd: What data does coindesk have? Reader's ip addresses? They're a news aggregator.
mircea_popescu: meaning any info you upload to them, such as bank acct numbers, id scans, etc, is now held by the usg and by all the hacker groups.
mircea_popescu: they're also insecure, and have been hacked repeatedly,
artifexd: Is that a real thing or a joke on the nsa watching/logging everything?
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fluffypony: mircea_popescu: my paternal grandmother is a very traditional, superstitious, short Italian woman (who cooks accordingly). she says my dad was the most successful of her 3 children because "he steal alla of tha calcium from me, he leave none for Daniele and Sonia"
benkay: fluffypony: y'ain't seen me log out yet, eh? my logs ain't the publogs.
asciilifeform: 'the salvation of the drowning is work for the hands of the drowning.' (russian orthodox proverb)
asciilifeform: not as such. but the occasional misfit tried to make some sort of legalistic case, to the laughter of the judges.
mircea_popescu: did anyone actually sue the kgb in soviet russia ?
asciilifeform: let's sue the kgb, sure. and don't forget to include a 1700s obscure tort case in argument. etc
asciilifeform: like the 'sovereign citizen' crackpots mp had an essay about
asciilifeform: but point being, people who imagine 'hacking the legal system' tend to end up pathetic cases
benkay: important to note that just because a thing claims to be legal in the states is no guarantee of its legality or quality or anything really.
benkay: the brand i've been made aware of by a friend who once smoked three pots (!) all at once (!) is 'spyce'
asciilifeform: and, naturally, the 'legal' crap doesn't contain delta-9 or any other thc, said substance being on the ban list
asciilifeform: benkay: no actual baths involved. it appears to be the spam brand under which a thousand things are sold.
asciilifeform: the folks who flock to 'new! legal!' u.s. btc exchanges, remind me of the ones who buy and smoke the 'legal marijuana substitute' stuff
mircea_popescu: kinda why regressive tax is actually the only way for national/polis stability. it acts as a de facto offer.
mircea_popescu: also known as the view that locations have to make you offers, rather than vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: principally due to the important benefits one derives from... rootless cosmopolitanism,
mircea_popescu: spanish/european jooz were the merchant class pretty much.
mircea_popescu: well cca 1500, the jooz.
mircea_popescu: there are people you do not mess with, or else your head.
mircea_popescu: they did the same exact mistake, much higher scale : got all the gold, pestered the jews,
mircea_popescu: sort-of on par with the bulgarian empire of 900ad
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform depending on what measure of wealth you use. but if you consider % of extant gold shipped to capitol, the us is way behind england, rome and pretty much every empire in between
mircea_popescu: figured they're me or some shit.
asciilifeform: us one of the richest countries << the automobilist term of art is, i believe, 'running on fumes'
mircea_popescu: fluffypony they're only different if you're into splitting hairs. otherwise, same people.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: coinbase yo, coindesk is the news site
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, the average us peon thinks oprah is one of the richest people in the history of the world,
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, none of this matters in any actual sense.
asciilifeform: everyone made his peace with being a candidate for the wagen
mircea_popescu: the whatsapp had "users", airbnb is "a success", coindesk is being pumped by gigaom as "relevant" and coindesk has a lot of users and etc.
asciilifeform: but granted, the psychology is very reminiscent of '90s russia, when it had no formal tax code
mircea_popescu: there's no argbument that the us-based vc-scammers are very good at what they do : faking numbers.
asciilifeform: these are usians
fluffypony: I know some of the OTC/localbitcoins sellers do the sell with GWallet/wire transfer/cash > deposit into bank -> instant buy on CoinBase, rinse/repeat
asciilifeform: tell them about autosnitch, etc. - 'ok, we're condemned, what can we do'
fluffypony: they are going to get burnt
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no you have to create an account to use them, not based on a cookie'd ID
asciilifeform: reminds me of russian madman v. pelevin's story 'Пространство Фридмана' ('Friedman-space.') where somebody tests this hypothesis experimentally.
fluffypony: I wouldn't be surprised - every time someone buys BTC through them doesn't it create a wallet?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i guess after my extradition i can STILL make more than the average forum guy.
fluffypony: btw if anyone wants a $125k/year job with the US treasury: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/367808700
ThickAsThieves: [11:51] <ThickAsThieves> bitcoin probably approaching the point where "community consensus" = paralyzation
fluffypony: if you'd prefer the torrent
Naphex: "You try and do your best for women, but they all just run us down. Bitches" ;]
fluffypony: the first few times I watched it it was interesting
fluffypony: neither
ThickAsThieves: i cant stand them
fluffypony: every time they have an old retired person who's moving out of Germany they look at houses in Spain or Ibiza or Cape Town
fluffypony: the wife watches this show called Mieten Kaufen Wohnen where Germans go house hunting
ThickAsThieves: probably which places they sell real estate in ;)
fluffypony: I wonder what criteria they used for that list
fluffypony: but still, $1 mil goes a lot further here than the small-ish town my in-laws are in in Germany
fluffypony: and they're all 4-6 bedrooms with views
fluffypony: http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-houses-flats-for-sale/parow/the-bishopscourt-of-the-northern-suburbs/1001121944610910002300409
fluffypony: but for the most part R10 mil will get you a pretty huge and elaborate place
fluffypony: R10 mil ($1 mil-ish) won't even touch sides there
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: see, all the signs are pointing towards one place