pankkake: thestringpuller: :o)
Naphex: they want it too
thestringpuller: there is an implementation of hot wallets that don't require the key ring to touch the internet
Naphex: only the hot wallets
thestringpuller: so you keep the keyring hot?
Naphex: now the users have that secret, so an intruder couldn't do much without user secrets
Naphex: if the user's OTP is not valid
Naphex: won't accept any messages, whatever the source or trust
Naphex: thestringpuller: for example, current hot wallet software
Naphex: you trust the sig
thestringpuller: depends on the transaction volume
thestringpuller: you can't trust the TCP/IP stack
Naphex: i will when there is something working
Naphex: either that or in reverse, where it connects to a aggregate server, and that just runs pubsub
dexX7: as source for the data?
dexX7: anyway. Naphex: i did only follow the last lines, so i'm not 100 % sure, if your intention is clear to me -- if you are looking for a simple solution to establish some kind of "bitcoin based event notification system", you may use the (redirected) debug output as basis which could be parsed and processed further
Naphex: to ward off any physical attacks like physical hdd theft
Naphex: whatever you can install the cleanest
Naphex: danielpbarron: linux would be fine, but make sure you don't run other stuff
dexX7: hmm.. so gribble and assbot had some troubles identifying me with another nick: http://dpaste.com/1801925/
thestringpuller: isn't there trusted software for that by now?
artifexd: thestringpuller: You are describing cold storage. It sounds like danielpbarron is looking for warm storage.
thestringpuller: send coins to the paper wallets
thestringpuller: generate addresses offline print them on paper
Naphex: what's the luck for?:P
Naphex: for the exchange i use something else entierly
Naphex: and i was getting into posting the messages and thinking
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mike_c: ;;later tell hanbot one easy way for PIF bitbets to be publicly auditable would be to use the same out address for all the bets. is that the plan?
mike_c: kakobrekla, would it be troublesome to add a primary key to http://bit4x.com/panacea/history/? seems to me there isn't a reliable way to determine uniqueness. you could very well have two trades with the same.. everything.
pankkake: reply in notice on !up would be nice too, because I just /msg the bot, and the reply opens a query
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
Naphex: kakobrekla: is there a list / help of assbot commands?
pankkake: maybe there is an eur shortage
gribble: davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 2 hours, 34 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <davout> random_cat: wet pussies are the consequence of so much log, not the other way around
BCB: thestringpullerso havelock is definitely in scam territory now? << Why do you say that
pankkake: but I've had an instance of it not updating trilema, so maybe it wasn't there earlier
fluffypony: it's at the bottom
fluffypony: thestringpuller: I meant his poll to my rss feed :)
thestringpuller: fluffypony don't use rss then
fluffypony: pankkake: is the rss poll broken? my most recent blog post isn't showing up
BCB: thestringpuller: eys
thestringpuller: never used them
BCB: them
thestringpuller: BCB: does it not say on the site?
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
gribble: JAY-Z - Change Clothes ft. Pharrell - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6G1uwe20wg>; Jay Z – Change Clothes Lyrics | Rap Genius: <http://rapgenius.com/Jay-z-change-clothes-lyrics>; JAY-Z LYRICS - Change Clothes: <http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jayz/changeclothes.html>
thestringpuller: ;;google change clothes and go
fluffypony: yeah, I love how at the end he's like "I'm going to litecointalk!"
HeySteve: from the thread you link, rethink your strategy
pankkake: otherwise I'll do it with a RSS parser I know, which already handles the "is this thing new" aspect
pankkake: I'm looking at how I can do that with venus (the tool I use to build blogs.b-a). the sending to irc part is easy, I already have a dumb bot for that
fluffypony: maybe assbot should poll the rss feed to watch for changes?
pankkake: I might do it more, I didn't want to hammer your blogs too much, but it's actually quite smart (it checks the last modified date of the rss if it can provide one)
pankkake: I'm the one running it
fluffypony: kakobrekla: I've actually got another blog post that is just waiting for April results, I'll include a link to that in it
kakobrekla: you might as well link them: http://trilema.com/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/
cazalla: moiety: didn't see any male midwives while my wife was in hospital (private), i wouldn't mind being a lactation consultant, it was pretty sweet watching the younger ones caress the missus' tits for milk :P
HoreaV: mircea_popescu: hey back, Naphex is still setting me up with the console and explaining. i'll be done in a sec
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user davide: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=davide | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=davide | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: HoreaV hey there ?
mircea_popescu: kinda why the male gyns are better, too. they don't have one so it's scary on some level.
moiety: and yeah we switched around doctors whenever the patients wanted
mircea_popescu: i know women who won't use a male gyn, to their detriment, as male gyns are usually better. but hey, her lyf, her call.
mircea_popescu: ends up generally misrepresented as "well the problem is he propositioned her". nonsense. the problem is he apparently has the discernment of a five year old.
mircea_popescu: but the problem is he sucked, basically.
mircea_popescu: no argument there.
mircea_popescu: a doctor shouldn't have to follow some ultimately absurd behaviour guidelines, because he's an adult, and a patient should not have to depend that the doctor does follow such, or that they're adequate, because he has no options.
moiety: asking someone who is crying about their daddy issues to suck your dick isn't flirting tho
mircea_popescu: you should be able to trust your doctor not to be unpleasant, of which you are the only judge. and if you don't like him go to another. which is why the free market is important.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well rather than an institutional investor I've just assumed you've transcended to being the institution
mircea_popescu: curious if he'll go the "o mp is not an institutional investor, because breaking the back of everyone else does not qualify one" or "he said fucktard so i no longer have to listen nao lalalala"
fluffypony: which was their response to me raising 14 questions on the TagPesa crap they're trying to piddle: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=586230.msg6418858#msg6418858
mircea_popescu: tell him my concerns are that he's a fucktard, and ask him to please address them.
mircea_popescu: but you're always in a position of trust. this "position of trust" analysis is bollocks. at the very least you trust the random passerby not to mug you.
fluffypony: lawlz seedcoin: "We have regular contacts with institutional investors, I am not sure how many institutional investors may have expressed a lack of confidence (publicly or to you) in what we do, if they have I would be happy to answer their concerns, but I wished to inform you that the institutional and angel investors we have been in contact with have expressed great confidence in Seedcoin and our support to crypto startups."
moiety: this is true. the problem with him being picking someone that had severe issues around it when he was in a position of trust rather than a nurse/doctor/person in the street
mircea_popescu: if a society isn't willing to put up with "inappropriate" propositioning, that society will have to put up with specially designated "proposition pens" where everyone's fcking awkward and the whole thing's unpleasant.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, i've hit on doctors/nurses/people in the street/whoever the fuck. what's the big deal.
mircea_popescu: it's just that he sucks, ie, the substance of that proposition.
mircea_popescu: moiety there's this confusion being peddled, in classic libertard manner, that it's the form rather than the substance. however, in my experience it's absolutely never THE FACT that he propositioned her that is the issue.
fluffypony: and gotten her therapy fees back with interest
fluffypony: moiety: she could have transitioned from one type of moan to another
mircea_popescu: it's a common mistake of the pompously clueless, and good sister of the entire "trolls are bad for society" mtyh
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yeah, which was the number 1 reason why I never went to another IRC meet after my first one in 1997
mircea_popescu: hence all the "you wouldn't say that to my face" bs
mircea_popescu: fluffypony early internet people held the idiotic belief that "meeting irl" is some sortt of gold standard.
fluffypony: well they broke it the minute they started having "signing parties" at every con in existence
mircea_popescu: and shouldn't be called a wot in the first place.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the gpg wot is imo a broken beyond belief implementaiton
mircea_popescu: but... the trust level it's your own
fluffypony: --send-keys just pushes my key, not the trust level
mircea_popescu: you export their pubkey
fluffypony: how do you push that updated keyring to the keyserver?
fluffypony: when you import someone's pubkey and set their trust level
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: question on the gpg wot
moiety: they have tools for that kind of thing
moiety: deserves a smack in the face
moiety: "I had to think of something that would relax her ... I thought I'd stimulate her clitoris to get access to the inside to do that proper examination, hoping that she'd relax." WTF .... a woman that avoided internal exams .... kden thats really going to relax her
mircea_popescu: "A doctor charged with sexually assaulting a patient at Dapto Medical Centre has told a court he took the unusual step of stimulating the woman on his clinic couch after she clamped down on his finger with her private parts, aggravating an injury to his shoulder."
cazalla: there's actually been 3 or 4 doctors struck off for similar things at that place, not that i knew at the time, it was the only place open late
fluffypony: cazalla: so you took the script and sold it on SR?
cazalla: i went to a walk in medical centre with issues about my neck as I couldn't get an appointment at my usual GP, the GP at the walk in just assumed I was after pain meds and wrote a script for endone (oxycodone) without any hesitation to get me the fuck out of there
mircea_popescu: so anyways i ask the guy what he doing in/with bitcoin and he says he "just left a start-up and wants to be a core dev" << so send him here.
cazalla: difficult to find a good GP in Australia, the older doctors are few and far between but will allow you adequate time, the younger GP's are usually found in medical centres where the aim is to get you in and out ASAP to bulk bill medicare as much as possible
fluffypony: bitcoinpete:naturally, i prod further and his area of interests is sidechains because they "fix bitcoin's incentive problems" <- with that attitude he's well on his way to being part of the Bitcoin Foundation, maybe he should just apply for a seat?
BingoBoingo: It's amazing how these things work out
mircea_popescu: and i would argue healthcare, tho not stellar, is better here than there.
mircea_popescu: somehow a country larger than the entire fucking cascadia can function on 1/10 to 1/100 of the us costs.
mircea_popescu: typical office overhead for a doctor's office is in the 10 to 15k a year, all inclusive, typical doctor visit is $100 or less (depending, GP is like $10)
mircea_popescu: anyway, they do the office practice here too. most romanians are insured by virtue of going to work, the cost is about $100 per month. most rich romanians don't bother with the state insurance and just pay out of pocket.
mircea_popescu: they have this well patined sense of humor.
mircea_popescu: "3. CEO at my hospital laid off 10% of the nurses last year and got a $7M bonus."
mircea_popescu: "this guy is giving me the timmy-jimmies", voted most likely to succeed coinage of 2014.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: ;;later tell duffer1 well when you can't decide whether your name is "Timothy" or "Jimmy" it's unsurprising that you'd self-identify as an "investor" despite never really invested in anything:-P
fluffypony: I'll pastebin the markdown source
mircea_popescu: fluffypony wouldja just pastebin the thing ?
mircea_popescu: HeySteve exactly. letting people know about how their lives depend on bitcoin-ability is a charitable deed.
fluffypony: or none that needs to execute to see the table
HeySteve: that sounds dangerous for the villagers
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no js on the page
mircea_popescu: im sure the lion's all hurt and emo over it.
mircea_popescu: like you know, there's this lion in an african village, and the local peasants are... not recognizing it.
mircea_popescu: HeySteve it... is. it has been, for a while. hence the serenissima.
mircea_popescu: HeySteve yes, there is such a science. what do you think we're doing here.
mircea_popescu: whereas everyone else reported by the 5th of next calendar month, so it always was later
HeySteve: <+mircea_popescu> "Without a hierarchical structure it is not possible to transform freedom from a fable into a fact." <- there should be a science of resilient hierarchical structures which resist corruption and decay. it should draw from historical fact, military tactics and decentralised methods. it should inform a technocratic leadership.
mircea_popescu: this because for most of its life mpoe reported on a "last week of month" period, and reports came in within hours of exercise closure, so it almost always was within the month.
mircea_popescu: and had it been paid 3-06-2012 it'd still have been the may dividend
fluffypony: yes but if you take the dividends table on the listing page for MPOE it correlates to "month in which it was paid" pretty much
mircea_popescu: well yes but it was for the month of jan
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell decimation you left out the best part : "Without a hierarchical structure it is not possible to transform freedom from a fable into a fact."
Apocalyptic: as it's in solely your authority to decide the outcome
mircea_popescu: well to the degree betting on any fiat stock being delisted is, i guess.
mircea_popescu: Instead, this week we found out the Most Transparent Administration in American History has implemented a new anti-press policy that would make Richard Nixon blush. National intelligence director James Clapper, the man caught lying to Congress from an "unauthorized" leak by Snowden, issued a directive to the employees of all 17 intelligence agencies barring all employees from any "unauthorized" contact with the pres
ozbot: BitBet - F.MPIF to last the year
mircea_popescu: (ie... sf leufteriu of the L.o.L. ?)
mircea_popescu: google you fucking suck wtf, it's in neither.
mircea_popescu: yes but each month the stock has an average price
fluffypony: I haven't had enough coffee - can you explain the relative dividend yield? surely the dividends are absolute?
mircea_popescu: maybe mike_c does one too, then we can see if your numbers match.
mircea_popescu: if you'd find it within your heart to publish the 2nd year of dividends, same format, that'd actually be helpful.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I've been flipping through the MPOE account statements for a blog post on running a profitable BTC business, is there a cumulative count of dividends paid per share that you've published at any point?
Apocalyptic: 24h-Vol: 1770k // that's like the monthly volume last month
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu on the money
bitcoinpete: "Actual people are always on the lookout for games to put skin in. Everybody else just knows better, from the waysides."
bitcoinpete: "There’s a very simple way to distinguish actual people from non-people. It’s not whether their grandmother was Jewish or their hair is curly, it’s not whether their skin tone is this or that shade of purple, it’s not even if they do well in school, suck cock rapturously, work hard, obey the laws, go to church, respect their elders, floss, whatever the hell else. None of that matters."
bitcoinpete: does the guy of pgp/gpg? nope, "The PGP/GPG stuff has been on my list to figure out for a few months, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. I've only recently started caring (somewhat) about security since getting into Bitcoin."
bitcoinpete: naturally, i prod further and his area of interests is sidechains because they "fix bitcoin's incentive problems"
bitcoinpete: so anyways i ask the guy what he doing in/with bitcoin and he says he "just left a start-up and wants to be a core dev"
bitcoinpete: cuz i'm an expert on them or something
BingoBoingo: Still less expensive than the F-35 that doesn't work
bitcoinpete: "The land-based intercontinental ballistic missiles, the ICBMs, that we saw are just one part of the nuclear triad that includes missiles on submarines and bombers. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that operating and upgrading all three legs of the triad is going to cost at least $355 billion over the next 10 years."
bitcoinpete: "We're not up on the Internet." <<def helps
BingoBoingo: I mean what other computers would be running launch systems? Some 28nm ARM thing that runs Java?
bitcoinpete: "A few years ago we did a complete analysis of our entire network. Cyber engineers found out that the system is extremely safe and extremely secure on the way it's developed."
bitcoinpete: "I'll tell you, those older systems provide us some -- I will say huge safety when it comes to some cyber issues that we currently have in the world."
bitcoinpete: other than neomania
bitcoinpete: "And they're using really, really, really old computers. I saw a floppy disc and not a floppy disc that size. It was gigantic."
bitcoinpete: "the equipment is ancient. This, for example, is one of the computers that would receive a launch order from the president. It uses floppy disks! The really old, big ones."
ozbot: Who's minding the nukes? - CBS News
ozbot: Doctor Grumpy in the House: Holy shit I'm rich!
BingoBoingo: My favorite part is that with two pieces of wire and a soldering iron you could convert the dopamine to methamphetamine
mod6: now there's a shocker
BingoBoingo: Otherwise you can parse the logs for references to amounts and get a rough idea of the size it started at.
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: It will be when the first public statement is revealed.
mod6: (17:27) <+mircea_popescu> mod6 %lb ? << i'll make this change too, i'll change the commands so their much shorter.
mod6: obv tslb is desired, that'll be near the top BingoBoingo
mod6: the bot is a work in progress, let me know if stuff needs to get added/subtracted/modified and I'll work on it.
mod6: I was like wtf about the block conf's too, but blockr.io show's 'em for btc blocks too.
decimation: asciilifeform: I assume you are an emacs fan; what IRC client do you like? I'm trying to follow the path to becoming a competent emacs/lisp user
decimation: stupid chat client: Without a hierarchical structure it is not possible to transform freedom from a fable into a fact. The liberal always discovers too late that the price of equality is the omnipotent state.
decimation: The liberal always discovers too late that the price of equality is the omnipotent state.
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mod6: pankkake: so not sure why it died there. it didn't get back a null result, or it would have spit out an error, but whatever it was, wasn't valid JSON. needs some debugging in there.
mod6: pankkake: you should start your bot back up. mine has a bug somewhere, gotta debug it. haven't flexed that part of the code much yet.
kakobrekla: ping me when you register the thing
mod6: pankkake: ok yeah, i didn't bother trying to align yet. if you want me to, I can change it over to doing the trades in #altcoin.
pankkake: mod6: I just stopped my trades bot, so you can display yours. the only thing I found missing was aligning at the @
mircea_popescu: and express as satoshi rather than bitcoin
mircea_popescu: pankkake ok the guy's kinda amusing. almost livejournal level
mircea_popescu: "It's lame in a way you are more concerned about privacy of your "bank account" than creating and promoting growth and fostering a close tight knit community. It's more important to you your MSC stake or "bank account" stays private than fostering closer tie with the community who allowed you to have this "bank account" in the first place."
mircea_popescu: yeah the venue is basically if pc5 ends up with too many shares
mircea_popescu: Registrant Name: Brian Niessen Registrant Organization: SSX Holdings CorpRegistrant Street: PO Box PW 5334 Registrant Street: Babrow Building Registrant City: The Valley Registrant Country: ANGUILLA
mod6: i'll call it 'atcbot' that would make the most sense.
peterl: mircea_popescu: looking at mpif contract, "The General Manager may also destroy Fund shares the Fund holds at any point", does the manager take out btc, or do the shares just get destroyed?
kakobrekla: scambot you say? might as well just call it max keiser then
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller on the other hand, their domain whois claims it was reg'd by Brian Niessen, who is an actual somebody.
kakobrekla: ah i thought it was 'Over The Top'
mod6: it's all part of the tools "Bitcoin Options Trade Tool" package/suite
mod6: ok, lemme hack in a few changes. i'll leave this one connected for the time being.
kakobrekla: and whats with the capital 'OTT'
mod6: It has a random 1-1000 number on the end, I can make it just 'BitOTTer' though.
mircea_popescu: the guy they depict however is none of those, and moreover the only reference yo ucan find to "SSX Advisors Corp" is on their own websites.
kakobrekla: i can add him to cs if the nick is reg
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller "Kapil Bhatia Kapil Bhatia is in the digital banking industry in Qatar. " << that happens to be a common name and also the name of some indian billionaire.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: like how they say it's "regulated"
mod6: ok. ill work on that a bit. that's probably the most verbose one. all the others are one line iirc.
mircea_popescu: quite snugly fit on the scam stock exchange mo. bitcoin as a bonus i guess.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no about page other than a desk.com account, and a bunch of spinoff websites (http://curacao.sgggroup.com/en/dutch-carribbean-securities-exchange ) etc.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller this'd better be about sex.
gribble: (rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.
kakobrekla: its 1337 in the wot
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user pizzaman1338: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=pizzaman1338 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pizzaman1338 | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: that's 6. was another too
mod6: so '%' ok then? i don't want to interfere with assbot
mod6: ok mp, i'll add another short code for it.
mircea_popescu: doesn't that bother assbot ?
kakobrekla: change the prefix or command
mircea_popescu: maybe have it print the day's average once a day ?
mod6: Ok, will do. It has the ability to broadcast x-bt atc/btc trades as well, its not turned on by default.
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mircea_popescu: "All but one of the individual winners of Pulitzer Prizes in journalism this year were male." << this is particularly funny in romanian
dub: hmm the farm I buy my olive oil from has been for sale for a while, IPO?