mircea_popescu: BohemianHacks: Pretty much, I tend to switch distros and clean up my harddrive tons << either that, or tend to try and social engineer off old dormant cool sounding nicks.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: but lots of people are obviously still on slow connections, which drags the average down << nope. you can't currently get anything under 100mbps even if you want to pay specifically for it. it's just not economical to maintain the old stuff.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: that makes me a sad panda << you can take solace in the knowledge that the thing is complete bs.
mircea_popescu: see who gets the furthest. "bob is so much further ahead of me" finally means something, geographically. etc.
mircea_popescu: there's probably a yurting period one could observe over the duration of his life, if he had the freedom do live in a manner adequate to his own manner.
mircea_popescu: keep doing this. at any point you want something from the oild yurts, just go drag it to the current one. (never ever move stuff back tho, only forward)
mircea_popescu: when full, build a new one a little off, carry whatever pieces of the old one you wish.
mircea_popescu: i suspect this would be the ideal living arrangement for the true hardware engineer : much like a silkworm's. built a yurt roughly 10 body lengths in diameter, fill it with material slower.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: folks expecting to play 'doom' on cardano will be disappointed. << you know back i nthe day one way to make the old impossible amiga games playable was to downclock the damned things
mircea_popescu: decimation: sounds like bureau-speak for "we hire idiots and they produce nothing" << bounce disagrees, argue with him, i'd like to watch. ty both :)
mircea_popescu: "unrealized damages" that is to say 'my eyesight was worth 100B, but now i have no eyes, therefore pay me 100B'? << exactly.
fluffypony: no wonder the Romanian phrasebook wasn't helping me
fluffypony: well there you go
fluffypony consults the phrase book
fluffypony: the pronunciation is trippy compared to Italian
fluffypony: I don't see any concrete plans for trading "stock" in the company
jurov: i guess they shorting was "omitted" from mastercoin protocol
BingoBoingo: There is no real Bitcoin after 0.7
fluffypony: oh wait nm, they don't actually have a product
fluffypony: kakobrekla should host assbot on the MaidSafe (tm) network
jurov: "..some of the pre-reserved domains will soon be available for purchase. The domain(s) in question are: bitcoin.bargains bitcoin.cheap"
jurov: i love when i register for various crap and then get sudden lulzies
jurov: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/04/29/accounting-for-the-amazing-company-the-bitcointalk-standard/ show some love for pankkake :)
Naphex: or another record field, where you can reverse associate the address to the specific dns signature
Naphex: i'll build up a service and see if we can poke holes in it, dnssec sign each zone, and reverse/point fowards for the addresses
fluffypony: and then let's plz BIP it, I'll do the grunt work of writing the BIP if you're feeling lazy
fluffypony: once everyone reads through this log I'm sure there will be some input
Naphex: and dnssec setup if he wants to authenticate that data
fluffypony: ok but for the sake of simplicity a person in control of their DNS records can just add a TXT record for themselves with their BTC addy + signature, right?
fluffypony: it looks up the txt record for you
fluffypony: instead of for the whole domain
Naphex: bip70 you will have to validate the pki
fluffypony: is there any issue with having lots of txt records?
fluffypony: Naphex: I think this is going to be the preferred solution once it's in common use - https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0070.mediawiki
Naphex: you could just use google pub dns servers, and place some trust on them, they support dnssec
ozbot: Domain Name System Security Extensions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
fluffypony: I like the idea
fluffypony: so the only way to do it as a standard
fluffypony: they have a financially viable reason to spew out bad records
fluffypony: is there a standard for this?
BohemianHacks: and I dont run extensions other than RES
fluffypony: you have to explicitly trust the extension
fluffypony: my favourite are the "solutions" on Reddit
Naphex: so they can totally overpass anything with targeted attacks
BohemianHacks: after you turn 18 cyber crime risk out weighs the reward, even if your morals dont stop you
fluffypony: and it just changes the destination address
BohemianHacks: I thought about going back to the dark side, but its still not worth it
fluffypony: I mean, they have this dodgy extension installed, and then they go and transact on CoinBase
fluffypony: have you been seeing all the people getting Bitcoin/Dogecoin stolen from that malicious Chrome extension?
fluffypony: bip32 is good for your cold wallet, you'd then be able to regenerate the private key from the seed at any point in the future, and import the privkey into Electrum / Bitcoin-QT / whatever
fluffypony: depends on the level of paranoia you're aiming for :)
fluffypony: BohemianHacks: a simple-ish solution is Electrum; deterministic key (so you only have to scribble down 12 words and save them), and it's bip32 encrypted
BohemianHacks: I would like a single key and a cold storage wallet and then just not worry about it from there. So long as I have a safe place to store some
BohemianHacks: so I am working out the best system for storting my coins and keys
BohemianHacks: I had coins all over the place and stored in unsafe ways
BohemianHacks: I have been working on a bunch of other projects and I am thinking my payments will largely be in coin
fluffypony: except it wasn't the dude that started/owned Dragon's Tale
fluffypony: what is concerning about cryptostocks is that there's no due diligence done, not even the smallest little bit
BohemianHacks: Naphex: that it does, which is a bit iffy as a tech company but they have some legit ideas
fluffypony: at the end of the day you have to do your own due diligence and invest in whatever makes the most sense to you
fluffypony: if you're shorting the stock I suppose cryptostocks is an option
BohemianHacks: and they are doing an IPO on cryptostocks
BohemianHacks: I would really like to check these guys out is the main reason http://www.bitcoinkinetics.cc/invest.html
fluffypony: BohemianHacks: also this is a good read - http://trilema.com/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/
ozbot: The wunderbar S.MPIF pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
fluffypony: http://trilema.com/2014/the-wunderbar-smpif/ <- that's coming soon
fluffypony: I think the biggest thing is that you have to make a distinction between a fiat-profitable company looking to raise fiat funds, but doing so in BTC for convenience
fluffypony: maybe nanotube can weigh on this if there's any recourse
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BohemianHacks: besides I would rather have fpga's to play with at my house
fluffypony: for the most part
BohemianHacks: I like the idea of investing in real businesses over mining hardware but that seemed pretty hard to find.
fluffypony: BohemianHacks: there's a voice model in here, blog post on it - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html
Naphex: then residential consumers
joecool: i always wondered about the broadband rating for romania though, is it counting business/residential connections or just average for ip's there
joecool: not rly sure what happened there
fluffypony: 2nd in the EMEA region
benkay: oh the prison
fluffypony: but lots of people are obviously still on slow connections, which drags the average down
fluffypony: Naphex: they're 7 worldwide in terms of *peak* broadband speeds
Naphex: getting ready to leave for the office
benkay: yo everclear that nick's unregistered in the wot - looks like you're sitting on some prime real estate
assbot: Voicing the20year1 for 30 minutes.
benkay: !up the20year1
decimation: yeah I think the electric hob would give more control anyway
asciilifeform: but, there is no shortage of material re: how to do this.
decimation: what about the traditional modifed toaster oven?
asciilifeform: (plus ir thermometer)
asciilifeform: paste pump consists of the very same syringe, but farts out puffs of air of controlled volume
decimation: basically you tack the qfn down and then use a really fine tipped soldering iron to "push" the solder in little grooves up under the chip
decimation: apparently it is popular to prototype the greenarrays chips on a "schmart board": http://www.schmartboard.com/
asciilifeform: what'd be the point
asciilifeform: the only weirdo analogue piece in my current work is the rng, and, as you might expect, it doesn't simulate.
asciilifeform: well ok, they'll calculate meanders for HF circuits.
asciilifeform: it was never entirely clear to me what makes these 'good'
decimation: there is a weird divorce in culture between EE's who build hardware and EE's who touch software
decimation: weirdly all of the "good" EE design packages are winblows only
asciilifeform: i've yet to meet an autorouter 'worth the electrons it's printed on'
decimation: what software did you use for the design? your choice is either crap open source or crap $$$
decimation: sounds like bureau-speak for "we hire idiots and they produce nothing"
decimation: loltron: http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/cryptologic_quarterly/NSA_Culture.pdf : "NSA will undoubtly have to keep staying agile, valuing qualifications (even if on paper), speed, productivity and decisiveness, while acknowledging the need for accuracy, expertise and informed decisions."
benkay: "unrealized damages" that is to say 'my eyesight was worth 100B, but now i have no eyes, therefore pay me 100B'?
decimation: there is little doubt that the Augean Stables of the west are piled with mountains of horse shit. who is going to wash them clean?
mircea_popescu: "To be perfectly honest, those jobs are reserved for my children, but yours might still be able to find work as their personal bathroom assistants, if they are docile and pretty... let's pretend you didn't hear that."
mircea_popescu: such a stupid name, too. where were all the branding experts ?
decimation: http://rwcg.wordpress.com/2014/04/23/corrective-glossary/ health care: any arrangement with a corporation in which you send money to them monthly and they sent you a brochure at the beginning, but may or may not pay you anything in return; e.g. ?With Obamacare at least I have health care?
mircea_popescu: if the us were a program, it'd be discarded as unmaintainable.
mircea_popescu: which is why the entire mess is so difficult to fix : like one of those old products of mad artisanry, nothing works as intended, everything's tied up in unrelated parts.
decimation: yeah the "insurance" doctors in the us must carry against unrealized damage claims is an incredible tax
mircea_popescu: i actually talked it over with a couple of people over lunch. it's our considered opinion that the difference between the us and the ro health care systems can be distilled in one very simple point :
asciilifeform: 'eat recycled food. it's good for the environment, and ok for you!'
decimation: well, I mean "want" as in "want of the actual necessities of life"
asciilifeform: in the words of a recent u.s. presidential candidate, 'don't impeach - impale.'
mircea_popescu: humans are supposed to watch half their litter impaled before their very eyes, not to pester them to death with vaporub.
decimation: your orthodox fathers would certainly endorse that sentiment
mircea_popescu: course, this may be a bitch for anyone trying to raise children or you know, live the life of X.
BingoBoingo: Who really wants to go to heaven if you have to live like a Saint while there?
decimation: all in the name of freedom, liberation, and enlightenment
decimation: at the heart of the progressive religion is a great desire to cut loose the straps that bind the devil
mircea_popescu: in general by examining the reality in the field, rather than whatever naive theories of the eager teenagers, one dicovers the opressed generally deserve it.
decimation: "land of the free" indeed
ozbot: Donald Sterling racism: Why the Los Angeles Clippers need to boycott their next playoff game.
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2014/04/donald_sterling_racism_why_the_los_angeles_clippers_need_to_boycott_their.html
mircea_popescu: you know... i may be the only one.
decimation: in the US it is customary to make a house out of the cheapest materials available, on the smallest possible lot (to maximize the builder's profit)
BingoBoingo is simply happy the tornados spared this house today
decimation: I think future historians will call this era "the golden age of mendacity"
mod6: what's up thestringpuller
decimation: "But as the campaign has gained national popularity, its detractors have bristled at the effort, calling it a politically correct war on words that will stifle free speech and suggesting its true aim is to redefine terms to control public opinion and ? ultimately ? public policy."
mircea_popescu: (.) and (|) will be the new digits.
asciilifeform: mr m & co got a few $mil from vc. i admit that i check back on these folks only in hope of being the first to see when they get sued by a 'diversity' werker for strong typing systems being sexist or whatnot.
mircea_popescu: "When peoples lives and careers are subject to litmus tests, and fired if they do not publicly renounce what may well be their sincere conviction, we have crossed a line. This is McCarthyism applied by civil actors. "
mircea_popescu: it's only the insufferably devilish nature of the mothers that ruined it, otherwise being cool is straightforward.
asciilifeform: 'immutable data,' 'strong typing,' etc. - all crud invented by mathemasturbators in their efforts to pretend that they are proving theorems
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, all women currently hated by their daughters for being insufferable
asciilifeform: at any rate, the hilariously funny bit about urbit is that mr. m wrote volumes condemning american academia, pseudo-mathematics in algorithmics, etc. - and then proceeded to crap out a widget emblematic of same.
decimation: except, there are only so many minutes in one's life
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a soviet variant, where the 'horned man', an old army officer, answers 'better to eat honey in company than - shit, by one's lonesome'
mircea_popescu: provided the stuff finds its way out too.
mircea_popescu: heads are cunts, swallowing shit whole doesn't hurt them any,
mircea_popescu: the old man is a little amused. "so what of it ? you think cunt is made of soap, to run out with use ?"
mircea_popescu: one day the rancher takes the old guy aside and points out to him that the woman is a paragon of indiscretion, with all the discretion and awkward shyness you'd expect out of a true blue american.
decimation: yeah one of the unfortunate features of modern electrical engineering is that you find you often invest your soul only to get chickenfeed in return
asciilifeform: i swallowed all of that crud whole, as it came out of the arse! who's gonna pay that back.
decimation: for a few days I entertained the idea of learning his crazy rune language
decimation: yeah I saw that. I think you profited on the deal
peterl: mircea_popescu: having somebody actively market making for the fund should also encourage lively trading, I think
asciilifeform: i sold me moldboat for scrap iron, but still check on them occasionally.
asciilifeform: it's still there, pumping valiantly to stay above waterline.
artifexd: mircea_popescu: Do you expect to increase the fee again?
peterl: mpex fee startd at free, then it was 20, now 30. coinbr used to cost more per month
asciilifeform: decimation: mr. m sold his arse to the vc circus
mircea_popescu: peterl given that theres so much info available about how the various pcs are doing, i imagine there should be some lively trading going on
artifexd: peterl How does that work? The MPEx fee is/was/will be 30btc, right? Has the coinbr fee changed over time?
asciilifeform: decimation: i'm a believer in 'propaganda by the deed'
decimation: I think you are doing more about the situation than most
mircea_popescu: decimation the way it works, as far as the orthodox tradition is concerned, catholicism is a bunch of ridiculous simplifications and barbaric nonsense.
asciilifeform: decimation: they remind me of the soviet-era 'kitchen dissidents.' yeah, let's sit around and chat about how much brezhnev sucks.
artifexd: The monthly fee bothered me until I realized that it would take over 130 years for that fee to equal the MPEx entry fee.
asciilifeform: decimation: i sorta got bored with the moldbugista folks
decimation: he is among the most impressive bloggers I have read
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decimation: One could argue that they are mostly in the "big tent (john 3:16)" but any of the ancient fathers would have turned them over to be flogged
decimation: and the dispensationalists
decimation: Yes, read about the postmillenals some time
mircea_popescu: and the silliest sects too.
mircea_popescu: how is "christians" a thing even. the us is mostly neoprotestants,
decimation: The Law Of Merited Impossibility is an epistemological construct governing the paradoxical way overclass opinion makers frame the discourse about the clash between religious liberty and gay civil rights. It is best summed up by the phrase, ?It?s a complete absurdity to believe that Christians will suffer a single thing from the expansion of gay rights, and boy, do they deserve what they?re going to get.?
asciilifeform: there was one with an md5 hash
peterl: anybody want to speculate: will MPIF be actively traded like MPOE, or will it be a snoozer like the other stocks on mpex?
asciilifeform: eat the heart of a lion for courage, of hyena for endurance, etc.
asciilifeform: man never really moved 'beyond' what archaeologists call 'sympathetic magic' (as in 'voodoo doll')
decimation: the mind reels
asciilifeform: (theatre)
decimation: apparently most folks can't tell the difference between a bridge and a pile of raped goats anyway
asciilifeform: bridges still need to be built << nah, we can cross the water on dead goats.
decimation: I guess if bob can convince people that his goat orgy is a secure bridge, then he's good to go
asciilifeform: decimation: bob can fuck ten thousand goats, and he's still bob the bridge-builder.
decimation: how is that possibly in their interests?
mike_c: ah, the forum is just not worth reading without mpoe-pr. "On average your investment of one BTC on that platform will have yielded about 0 BTC (dividends included) by Autumn."
decimation: asciilifeform: I think the RSA keyfob hack demonstrates your point about yubikey perfectly
mike_c: there is going to be a stock that tracks the fund that tracks the bitcoin economy as a whole.
peterl: mircea_popescu: mpex.co still lists S.MPIF as upcoming, shouldn't that be removed now that there is a link to F.MPIF in the "funds" section?
pankkake: yes, better. the second consists should have a s though?
mircea_popescu: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/04/29/accounting-for-the-amazing-company-the-bitcointalk-standard/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, the ny mayor is now communist, that guy is teaparty.
benkay: mircea_popescu: why chase pennies from paupers when there are guys out there willing to spend single-digit integer fractions of btc for tits?
jurov: moiety: wanba be The Real Manulcoin ambassador?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: >>The Mcdonalds of webcam based adult entertainment is my goal.. And I will keep working at it until I achieve it!
BingoBoingo: problems beget further problems
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BingoBoingo: I throw that out, because the storm sirens are engaged.
ozbot: The Moment A Mississippi TV Station Evacuated For A Tornado
BingoBoingo: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-moment-a-mississippi-tv-station-evacuated-for-a-tor-1568929551/+barryap
ozbot: The FBI arrests New York Congressman Michael Grimm for fraud, perjury.
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/04/28/the_fbi_arrests_new_york_congressman_michael_grimm_for_fraud_perjury.html
benkay: besides, who ever knows what they want.
benkay waits for the punchline
mircea_popescu: you got a 70lb chick in the house that cooks with the use of a hammer and wants beer ?
benkay: told her 'when dinner's actually done then you can have a beer'
benkay: lol now she's complaining about the fact that i stole her beer
mircea_popescu: they're... not jets.
mircea_popescu: mikaeldice but the scams and incompetents aren't bitcoin corps. i mean it's like saying turbojet propulsion isn't used by model airplanes. sure.
mikaeldice: True, but the goal would be to generate red flags on incompetence more than anything
fluffypony: it's not like if you create an easier system all the scams will be like "ohai, let's be legit!"
mikaeldice: Are you narrowly defining what a bitcoin corp is? Taking a look at the securities forum, it's almost not in use by most of the scams and incompetents there. When there is reporting, it's late and/or incomplete..
fluffypony: mikaeldice: the reason it isn't being done isn't because it's complicated
mikaeldice: Well, the problem is that things aren't getting done the right way. The system you outline in your website is a good one, but few people use it.
thestringpuller: why do people constantly want to do things differently than the way things are done i have no idea. << like when people try to put the square block into the circle hole?
benkay: girl is using the mini sledge to pulverize peanut brittle