mircea_popescu: so then why'd it be a surprise, just one day... honey, whack!
ThickAsThieves: i'd do whatever made sense at the time i felt i needed to do something
mircea_popescu: so there's no connection whatsoever other than...well... she's got a cunt and you got a plug that fits ?
ThickAsThieves: we chat and if it's at the bar we likely go get it on to some degree hf bases
mircea_popescu: so there's this girl you like. what do you do ?
ThickAsThieves: probably at the bar or via business dealings
ThickAsThieves: the slaving beating stuff
ThickAsThieves: it's honestly the only thing i cant rationalize about you
ThickAsThieves: why do you beat them anyway?
ThickAsThieves: then i'm in trouble
mircea_popescu: i suppose the times of blackberry and iphone have been quickly forgotten have htey.
ThickAsThieves: "If the proposal before us now turns out to be insufficient or if we observe anyone taking advantage of the rule, I won't hesitate to use Title II," writes Wheeler, referring to an option that would let the FCC regulate ISPs much like landline phones.
ThickAsThieves: they use example for Beat in tuning
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the solution to the megaphone madman (mentioned in your 'twitter' page) isn't laser - it's ultrasonic 'voice in head' trick.
dexX7: outcome yes, if price rises above 4000 and THEN goes sub 400?
mircea_popescu: of all the conceivable reasons to have an affair...
mircea_popescu: "o no, i won't be involved with basketball, they're nigger loving faggots"
asciilifeform: is there a single white man playing?
mircea_popescu: "The fine will be donated to organizations dedicated to anti-discrimination and tolerance efforts that will be jointly selected by the NBA and the Players Association, Silver said."
mircea_popescu: i am not and all the rest of youse have to suffer.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's not that they "don't like him". it's that they just got a cock and would like me to be impressed.
ThickAsThieves: if they dont like him, leave
asciilifeform: mr. mold once described the 'diversity quota' crap as 'there must be a Party member on every elevator ride.'
jurov: they construe it as "hate speech does not fall under freedom of speech" and/or "fredom of speech concerns only your relationship with govt, since we're not govt, we're free to punish you as we see fit"
cazalla: mircea_popescu: "the average declared weight is 180.94 kgs" and i thought i was a chubby chaser
mircea_popescu: i own a girl who recounted the story of how the school administration made all the girls lift up their skirts to prove they actually were wearing panties or not be allowed inside the hs end party
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's in the us, so im sure it does.
ThickAsThieves: does he have some kind of code on conduct in some kind of contract with the NBA that allows any of this?
asciilifeform: the way i understand it, the team won't be permitted in matches so long as he is owner.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck does that work. he... owns it.
mircea_popescu: mike_c wow, they can ban AN OWNER ?!
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I jest about Fiddler on the Roof:) I think things like the Golden Gate and all those cathedrals with the semi-spherical towers (Saint Basil's being the obvious go-to for every movie set in Russia ever) are a sight to see. also Manshikof (sp?) tower and the Chelyabinsk opera house are on the list.
mike_c: "Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling has been banned for life by the NBA in response to racist comments the league says he made in a recorded conversation."
asciilifeform: fluffypony: if you're expecting to find the village from 'fiddler' in russia, i must disappoint you.
asciilifeform: (strike that. lib.ru was merely censored. it's some of the mirrors that charge)
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: don't get me wrong - I'm a huge opera buff, and I could get lost in the architecture of the ancient Greeks, but I love being in places that are so fundamentally different to my own frame of reference
asciilifeform: (someone mirrored the good stuff, 'took ball and went home.')
asciilifeform: the 'real library' has been at flibusta.net, for ages.
asciilifeform: the thing that makes this a mega-lol is that lib.ru sold out to copyrasts years ago - charges for access to a number of things, incl. books by folks who never asked for this
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I disagree - people have been living there for more than a few hundred years, which means they've developed not only a language, but art and architecture and even ways of thinking that differ from my own...which I think is the essence of "culture"
asciilifeform: tldr - russian pediwikia bans the mega-library lib.ru - on account of warez.
fluffypony: although I'd probably end up quoting "Fiddler on the Roof" the whole time if I went there
fluffypony: and I think the architecture in places is incredible
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I find the culture fascinating - I wouldn't want to live there (hate snow), but I find the culture so different to everything else that it intrigues me
asciilifeform: fluffypony: the only remaining actual law is - 'Не верь, не бойся, не проси' ("Don't Believe, Don't Fear and Don't Ask." russian prison maxim, at least a century old)
asciilifeform: fluffypony: setup mining operations in the US... rent it to someone outside << lol, you think 'rule of law' is a thing in the usa
ThickAsThieves: Roman G: I understand your frustration and would like to keep monitoring your website performance for another 2-3 days and in case of any issues do not hesitate to contact us back at once
ThickAsThieves: Roman G: The issue was reported to our technicians at once and it should be fixed now
mircea_popescu: what was the error code biatch!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves now you get to be the customer and always wrong!
ThickAsThieves: motherfucker!
ThickAsThieves: namecheap: Roman G: What was the exact error you received?
jborkl_: I got a API to the site and working on a pubnub to stream in live trade data :)
Thelamarvelous1: Thanks for the info
kakobrekla: fuck you just trying to get someone to do some work there.
ThickAsThieves: the mining thing seems a little too obvious to be noteworthy imo
pankkake: Thelamarvelous1: first step would be to register with gribble
kakobrekla: is that fincern mining thingy worthy of wiki, if so, someone should put it there.
ThickAsThieves: motherfucker
ThickAsThieves: all i have otherwise is a client server (all that's left of my mktg biz is the website hosting)
mircea_popescu: Thelamarvelous1 how do you know ?
ThickAsThieves: <+mike_c> ThickAsThieves: thedevilwearsbitcoin is down. /// looks up to me, but that's the second downtime already... a testament to Namecheap's hosting service.
mircea_popescu: why's it so hard for the inferior to do what they are told by better men in no uncertain terms ?
ozbot: Mircea_Popescu @GlennF The consensus seems to be that your noggin ain't really w - Pastebin.com
assbot: Voicing Thelamarvelous1 for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !up Thelamarvelous1
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: thedevilwearsbitcoin is down.
mircea_popescu: pankkake yes they were suing bfl.
pankkake: eh, they have BFL too
mircea_popescu: if anyone's not seen the lion in winter, you definitely must.
JorgePasada: I used to spend time on the forums back in the day... back when you could actually find useful information without digging through pages of BS
mircea_popescu: oh by the way, rehashing http://trilema.com/2014/agency-and-other-notes/#identifier_0_52070
benkay: i learned to sniff out the banal stench of scam and stopped.
fluffypony: you know what they say
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> ThickAsThieves: no, I was just flipping through threads << i imagine he's picked up the benkay task.
mircea_popescu: idiots, of course, never have the sense to actually name names, and admit whom they wish to copy, and for what reason, and what all that means.
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> so Havelock admitted to insider trading, of a sort? << no. they're just trying to make vague claims as to anything. that they're registered, should that seem desirable. that they're mp, should that appear a value. that anything and everything, no matter what it may be.
mircea_popescu: i'll have my horses graze on him. for he's a glenn, and they like glens.
mircea_popescu: on the same grounds, i
mircea_popescu: glenn thinks he should not have to listen to assbot on the grounds of assbot's amazing name
benkay: either that or there are sensible people at the helm in some places. hard to believe, but a possibility.
JorgePasada: which is strange coming from them
fluffypony: rent it to someone outside of the US
fluffypony: setup mining operations in the US
ThickAsThieves: fwiw mintspare came to me first and i sent them packing
pankkake: mintspare raised before the havelock escrow thing
fluffypony: THEN
fluffypony: Havelock say "We do hold the Bitcoins raised during their offering in escrow and only distribute those funds as needed."
fluffypony: so then the question is - why are MintSpare so quiet but Havelock claim to be speaking to them
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ThickAsThieves: so HL is saying they havent disappeared?
fluffypony: then Havelock say "We have been working with Mintspare closely during the past few months and they have a bright future ahead of them. They should and will start to post and respond to requests on this forum."
JorgePasada: with the WoT
JorgePasada: Nah, finally authenticated
moiety: might be a slightly wrong route to go, taking away from the manuls and all
mike_c: the worst part of dicks or gtfo is that the channel would be flooded with pics immediately..
ThickAsThieves: <+moiety> in #manul-assets it'll be dicks or gtfo btw guys ;P /// lol, best quote of the day
fluffypony: "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo
benkay: "In the end, the Christian Democrats failed to secure a player and the Feminist Initiative player had to decline due to other commitments."
HeySteve: the stupidity is overwhelming
HeySteve: ?? http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/04/29/calling-girls-fat-may-make-them-obese.html ??
moiety: i thought their preferred speak just consisted of fuck off bitch
fluffypony: moiety: "niggaz" is the preferred colloquialism to a manul
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: basically this guy would like to be here, but he doesn't know that here exists, or how to get here. which, imo, speak to structural deffect. if he weren't a broken being he wouldn't have the problem.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the notion that andreessen is a source or has anything to say about bitcoin is laughable, but it's also so very cute
mircea_popescu: so let them fail, miserably and humiliatingly, and from that failure learn how little shit they got for brains.
benkay: twitter users can't think in units of length greater than 140 characters, and they labor over each character. i don't want to suggest we value qlty over qnty but ffs i don't think these people can engage in real time chat style webversations.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe it jolts the dude out of his intellectual complacency and he actually gets informed about btc.
mircea_popescu: yeah, why do something useful, that's like hard. better to yak at people about what words they use.
moiety: mircea_popescu: the whole idea we can't use 'guys'. i get this kind of crap all the time. also when i use 'dude'. i get feminazis giving me into trouble and i am female myself.
JorgePasada: Yeah, not sure what their model is for monetizing that
mircea_popescu: <benkay> These operations are run by what you could consider as volunteers << can't tell if stupid or being ironic << it's idiotic.
FabianB: mircea_popescu: that was my guess after seeing 19:27 <+thestringpuller> !jd MPIF
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: this is among my favourite of the things you've said - "There’s a baby, its bathwater, and Mastercoin. Let’s just throw out the latter two."
mod6: The Will to Power was put together by his sister after his death. Mainly a collection of papers and personal notes. It's good though.
mod6: The Twilight of the Idols, Thus Spoke Zarathustra and The Antichrist are all good. I read now and then from The Will to Power.
bitcoinpete: i'd never really read nietzsche but he's on the fuckin money as far as -assets and bitcoin go
benkay: ah but the third one
benkay: the honeypot?
benkay: there's already a connection between two machines sending btc protocol messages back and forth
JorgePasada: It's a network, there has to be points of entry
JorgePasada: I mean, I don't see how it could work any other way...
benkay: who d'you think made the protocol changes that broadcast IP addresses with every network message?
JorgePasada: but in the middle it's like he's arguing past andreessen
JorgePasada: Eh, it's just frustrating because I've talked with him about the bitty coin extensively, and he gets it, and the conclusion isn't bad at all
benkay: let's try something from princessnell: http://theumlaut.com/2014/04/29/scenes-from-a-dying-imperial-city-the-export-import-bank/
benkay: "It also glosses over theft. Because Bitcoin relies entirely on the private retention of secrets (private keys that prove ownership of given Bitcoins), a stolen Bitcoin is only traceable within the system to a certain extent, and thefts of millions and tens of millions of dollars have already occurred. Because committed transactions are irreversible, stolen Bitcoins are valuable and nearly laundered." << this is bananas.
JorgePasada: Increasing optionality, especially when talking about markets in the aggregate, is always good
JorgePasada: It's 100% guaranteed to be a net value add to the system as an aggregate
JorgePasada: 'and the cost and nature of that can’t be determined.'
JorgePasada: more accurately the very last part
JorgePasada: Bitcoin doesn’t eliminate fraudulent transactions; it only eliminates counterfeit payments. This can, of course, save many tens or hundreds of billions of dollars a year globally and translate to more efficiency in commerce. But removing the intermediary also removes recourse outside of courts, and the cost and nature of that can’t be determined.
benkay: These operations are run by what you could consider as volunteers << can't tell if stupid or being ironic
HeySteve: <+JorgePasada> is identity = reputation? <- I'd say no. identity is what you know of yourself, reputation is what others know of you
JorgePasada: That paragraph bothers me.
JorgePasada: Because a Bitcoin transaction can’t be reversed, it means that the party transferring value has no recourse within the Bitcoin system to reverse or dispute a transaction. Thus, someone who wants their money back has to go to court, and companies that accept Bitcoin as payment aren’t above the law. This will move chargebacks from intermediary mediated settlements to small-claims court and higher civil courts
JorgePasada: I'm happy, they're happy
JorgePasada: where I think people don't understand the market
benkay: his identity (in the sense of a thing that persists past each scam) is only relevant to other scammers. the con man must burn his identity for each con.
benkay: tends to be at odds with the gentleman's desire to cultivate an identity, though.
JorgePasada: Wait a minute, all of these people are way way less knowledgable about this stuff than I am, they're just more confident
JorgePasada: benkay: I think that's the realization I had when I was like 24 or so
benkay: running the confidence game can be very lucrative!
JorgePasada: benkay: Step two is still all question marks... so in theory a lot
benkay: but at a rough approximation: my own biz, some other biz, -assets, and my personal wot.
JorgePasada: Also, just bought my ticket to the amsterdam
benkay: the kind comprised of adults that'd socialize budding humans not poorly.
benkay: mind you, JorgePasada, i'm talking about a real community of humans who get together and derp on a patch of dirt for potatoes or tomatoes during the day and sing and drink at night
mircea_popescu: moiety will play either way.
moiety: mircea_popescu: what does 'switch' mean? re the piecharts
benkay: don't explain things to them, that's teaching and takes time. just glare and kill their ego with your disapproval.
mircea_popescu: either that or we're just getting lazier/stupider/etc
JorgePasada: moiety: Eh, just ignore them.
moiety: nah i have no time for that. shotgun + face + close range = can get on with other things nao thx
moiety: children are the bane of my existence
mircea_popescu: beats the "pot to piss in" by a large margin.
mircea_popescu: think : the guy doesn't even have ONE friend to take his picture.
mircea_popescu: and then have friends.
mircea_popescu: and i thought to myself... here's a crow, that has no friends, but through the use of technology will make itself a profile, and put it online
mircea_popescu: it was just him and the crows, which were also playing with sticks and items in a similar figety manner
mircea_popescu: who was fiddling with the camera to get it to sit up so it'll take his picture
mircea_popescu: what triggered for me was that i was walking through a park yest, and there was this lonely kinda strange tall lanky black haired guy
donpillou: i'm a random guy from the internets
JorgePasada: Not every other week
JorgePasada: 5th Tuesday of the Month
benkay: no get together?
JorgePasada: Man, so bummed there's no meetup tonight
benkay: <mircea_popescu> on one hand, having a third party involved in any bitcoin transaction, in any way, is breaking the protocol. << not a fan of multisig?
thestringpuller: it talked about professionalism and how one doesn't care if the mechanic's dog died earlier that day
benkay: mircea_popescu: ah i was wondering if the gentleman had his own outlet
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller um not sure ?
fluffypony: punkman: ala the little php snipped in http://trilema.com/2013/a-little-bit-of-ddos/ but forward proxying instead of reverse
punkman: I'd rather keep my NC password on my local box only
punkman: fluffypony: well yeah I guess, or make a bot that goes and approves the IP before it tries to do anything
mircea_popescu: but don't they email ?
mircea_popescu: maybe "how to use a battery to light a bulb, wearethepremieretechandblablainstitutionintheworld" ?
punkman: so I was making a little cli interface for Namecheap, and they want me to login on the website and approve my IP address for API access every time it changes
punkman: good thing they didn't make MITcoin
ThickAsThieves: or the like
ThickAsThieves: maybe bitbet that 80% of it ends up with 20% of the people?
ThickAsThieves: they wanna see what happens
ozbot: Announcing the MIT Bitcoin Project | MIT Bitcoin Club
kakobrekla: ah, sorry, im not from the ghetto.
the20year: hopefully when mrstickball he can grab decent BW on the fiber that runs right next to the complex and start renting servers or some such
pankkake: I wonder if there's a request on what.cd
ThickAsThieves: this should be funny, wu tang fans trying to scrape together $5m to buy the promo album coming out (only one copy to exist) https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/wu-tang-disciples-unite-for-once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin#home
bounce: there's a baseline guaranteed brokenness courtesy php, though
pankkake: I hate the new admin interface
fluffypony: mike_c: I can imagine, we'll put it on the list of broken things I don't want to touch
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: because WP is so badly written...I wrote a plugin for it years ago, and that was honestly the most painful experience in shitty PHP coding
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> I really want to start a movement of anti-web things << join the queue!
fluffypony: kakobrekla: the server it's hosted on hosts a bunch of our local sites that are heavily trafficked, so I keep it purposely low-impact
fluffypony: pankkake: I have control over the content? you can turn off that advertising thingy where they show similar content
pankkake: and I don't like the anti spam ways of using javascript. websites should be fully usable without
pankkake: asciilifeform: definitively. or at least auto-mod them
pankkake: at least I have full control of the content!
kakobrekla: do you get like millions of hits per day or are cpu cycles that expensive there?
pankkake: but for now I'm happy with the lesser evils of wordpress
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mrstickball: ;;gettrust the20year
fluffypony: so very low impact on the server, as nginx just ends up serving stuff that's cached in memory
fluffypony: disqus is the easiest way for me to have comments without dicking around for 2 days with unsupported plugins
fluffypony: mike_c: I hate all the comment plugins for jekyll
gribble: The story of Pointless and Witless pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-story-of-pointless-and-witless/>; MPOE, January 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/mpoe-january-2014-statement>; Notorious M.P. layin down that subliminal shit, na mean ? pe Trilema ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/notorious-mp-layin-down-that- (1 more message)
the20year: HL sends me daily sales reports, if I felt like it I could post them showing who bought the shares
ThickAsThieves: they shut off trading for like a month
mike_c: kakobrekla: you have finally shamed me into fixing my comment approval system. there will be no more spammers on btcalpha.
mircea_popescu: how did that work in the end ?