fluffypony: bounce: they've got a wide market
bounce: how the fsck is a novelty headphone brand worth 3.2bn dollahs?
fluffypony: I think there are some guys that want to do things in a way that is successful
mircea_popescu: i guess the rest you could rape...
mircea_popescu: you can only insult the willing.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony yes man, that's how it works. take dr foreskin : he does something stupid. he's publicly told just how stupid he is. he moves on to claiming that THE WORLD IS BROKEN
pankkake: also, lol at not using BitPay because they are "in bed with BFL"
fluffypony: and Jasun7211's advice is golden because he's the *respektud sharezholder*
pankkake: and who the RESPECTED shareholder is
fluffypony: "Hmmmn, tricky. Go with the new poster whose first post started with a personal insult or take the advice and recommendation from an established and respected shareholder? What will Ken do? Tricky."
fluffypony: pankkake: his reply is what triggered the blog post I'm writing
Naphex: well BB might just get 0dayd with all those PHP scripts they run
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu re Kyle Bass, he is saying in that presentation that Argentina is the best country to invest in for the following years
mircea_popescu: somehow they think the strategy involved is not transparent as glass, i have no idea why.
fluffypony: anyway I was writing a blog post about the fucktards that are Coinbase before getting distracted by this, I'ma finish it
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic re buffett : i chuckled at the recent sacking of that wsj reporter over calling buffet a hypocrite for no good reason.
Apocalyptic: he took the Buffet way out
Apocalyptic: I like how the first question he's asked is "what do you think about bitcoin", despite it not being mentionned at all
mircea_popescu: he got trampled to shit by mpoe-pr for being a fucktard, rather than admit he;'s a fucktard he prefers to claim "it was impossible anyway":
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: he's not wrong, assuming he's referring to the "stock" on BitcoinBourse and CryptoStocks
mircea_popescu: someone needs to hit him over the head with the http://trilema.com/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/
mircea_popescu: "If, instead of treating their BTC like play money and throwing it into this kind of junk, folks just took a portion of their available dollars and invested that capital into random selections from the S&P 500, they would likely do much, much better."
mircea_popescu: "Not to go all off-topic, but another alternative is that you could just conclude that with very few exceptions, the entire Bitcoin securities universe is currently populated with junk -- and not even bother."
fluffypony: Naphex: with that smile I wouldn't trust him further than I could throw him
fluffypony: to the death!
mircea_popescu: think about that! in the past couple of years, the dollar has lost ground AGAINST THE ROMANIAN LEU
fluffypony: "We are currently duel listed on https://cryptostocks.com/securities/126 and bitcoin Bourse and shares are exchangeable between the two."
ozbot: BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today
fluffypony: right that's enough fr.wikipedia.org for the day
fluffypony: there's that
fluffypony: "The term soupeur means and first of all individuals who take pleasure in eating food soaked in the urine of others"
chetty: doods, always buy off the self, security. random stuffs is safer
mircea_popescu: the only way is to buy it physically.
pankkake: anyway, the choice isn't that great in retail
pankkake: eww buying pc parts of the shelf?!
mircea_popescu: pankkake because he's assburgers and can't drive 50 miles to fucking vienna to buy the stuff off the shelf
mircea_popescu: Naphex back then, like 90% of the entire market cap was this one austrian conglomerate.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony sort-of. these guys : http://trilema.com/2012/doua-poze-mii-de-cuvinte-milioane-de-lei/
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: you mean the crowd that self-identify as "ibankers" ? :-P
mircea_popescu: Naphex no but i mean the derps that pretend like they're bankers and bvb traders and whatnot
Naphex: yesterday was straight wall for most the day/night. 120 @ 1342 , 1344
Naphex: but there is no patience,
Naphex: they realize i think
gribble: USD to RON - The Money Converter: <http://themoneyconverter.com/USD/RON.aspx>; USD/RON - The Money Converter: <http://themoneyconverter.com/RON/USD.aspx>; USD to RON Exchange Rate - Bloomberg: <http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRON:CUR>
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mircea_popescu: isn't the usd like 3.20 or so ?
Naphex: although there was a 120 wall at 1340
mircea_popescu: muisti = cocksuckers in romanian. a very economic language, needs fewer letters for the concept. also reflective of the fact that romanian women are on average better trained & moar experienced with it so it doesn't take as long.
Naphex: never ever did they deliver on time or 'right'
Naphex: so its either emag or its cousins
Naphex: there are no local stores that carry anything high end over here
Naphex: every year or so, then i order it and regret it while i wait for stuff for weeks
Naphex: what am i going to do with a cooler and a PSU the whole weekend ;(
Naphex: everything arrived, except the pc parts
mircea_popescu: it wasn't a confrontation : we stayed the fuck away from them, so there was no need for them to beat our living daylights out.
mircea_popescu: There wasnt any communication [with the Chinese] due to both Blue Ridge and its helicopter being a safe distance away, Marks said.
mircea_popescu: USS Blue Ridge, the Japan-based 7th Fleets flagship, transited without incident near the two ships, Navy officials said.
mircea_popescu: some online news outlets to label the encounter a confrontation, which 7th Fleet officials disputed Friday.
mircea_popescu: time to start seriously discussing the irrelevance of the world bank. perhaps it's time it just goes away, as it has little chance of being folded into mpex.
fluffypony: Naphex: they lost me at "made for peer to peer interaction"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: twizt: pankkake is the #bitcoin-assets police detective
gribble: User 'twizt', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1AimBm6kNoYu1jTrqFWPBewhw9phMA8Prp, registered on Fri Jan 31 11:04:43 2014, last authed on Tue Apr 29 02:06:58 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=twizt . Currently not authenticated.
pankkake: eh, you have the same success rate as me yesterday
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/25398n/samuel_l_jackson_crusades_to_kick_cancer_in_the/
pankkake: BingoBoingo: the URL is funny enough
Naphex: hehe, yes, saw the price on bitcoinaverage yesterday :)0
BingoBoingo: tim-tams: The Charity is my left nut. It learned to kick itself. I want other people to know the fear I have. That their testicals too can learn to kick themselves.
BingoBoingo: tim-tams: If you do manage to get the funds for this thing I'll sponsor some efforts of yours to raise awareness for a very important charity
benkay: oh it's assbot and i'm late to the party again
mircea_popescu: enthusiasm is good, don't get me wrong, but you're not there yet.
mircea_popescu: your blog got 0 comments the past month. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKw7dwBSnG0 < you get like... 72 views ?
tim-tams: I was expecting the sponsorship to be a form of advertising but if you'd rather just sponsor us because you think it's a good use of your money (which it would be ;) ) then we're ok with that haha
mircea_popescu: to... get my name out there ?
tim-tams: we're hoping to interview some people, and we'll definitely talk about the presentations a ton on the show
tim-tams: mircea_popescu haha to get your name out there, advertising and such
TheNewDeal: charlie shrem is going to be there!
TheNewDeal: can I pay like 5$ for you to include a small middle finger dedicated to the Chief of Operations of Butterfly Labs?
tim-tams: Bitcoin in the Beltway
TheNewDeal: wheres the conference?
tim-tams: our budget for the whole trip is $1400 and I got one sponsor for half that. So $700 more for an equal spot
tim-tams: looking for a sponsor who would be mentioned every time we talk about the conference in our show
tim-tams: "this" as in the sponsorship?
tim-tams: thenewdeal hey
TheNewDeal: getting all the lelz tonight
kakobrekla: hehe did you take that from twitter TheNewDeal ?
artifexd: It would fit with the twitter names: BitBets and BitBetsBets
artifexd: I imagine that there is a database with a table of bets and a table of, uh, bets. Both tables can't be called bets.
artifexd: Do you have different names for them in your database?
artifexd: There's my confusion. Bet refers to the thing being placed and the thing upon which it is placed.
mircea_popescu: <Duffer1> perhaps it was expanded? >> 50 then 113
decimation: The ceos all agreed that the lawsuit sucked, and the lawyers agreed to have a payday! The beta engineers, who already accepted years of being screwed, have accepted being screwed again.
ozbot: Robots and restaurants | Lion of the Blogosphere
decimation: http://lionoftheblogosphere.wordpress.com/2014/04/30/robots-and-restaurants/ When rich people do go out to eat, they will not want to be served by robots, so high-end restaurants will still have human waitstaff. As I?ve pointed out before, many people who aren?t born rich will only be able to make money if they have the ability to entertain the rich or make them feel good about themselves.
decimation: as long as none of the objects in the area have the evil ports, the security gods shall be pleased and grant us the anti-snowden
decimation: "indles, iPads, and other tablets/e-readers are currently forbidden on Navy vessels. They take up space, and, more importantly, can be a security threat because of connectivity points like wi-fi, expandable storage, and USB ports."
TheNewDeal: or was there a btc/atc combo investment?
moiety: i'll be more to renew than i was in the first place
moiety: is it just the uk that keeps bumping up passport prices every five minutes?
ozbot: The Navy's new, secure e-readers are called NeRD.
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/08/the_navy_s_new_secure_e_readers_are_called_nerd.html
PLambert: did you see the article about the guy who accidently got shipped a drone by US gov? he should have sold it on silkroad :)
thestringpuller: either that or you don't do repeats often or ever :P
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it's old you know.
thestringpuller: there we go
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nubbins`: when we work out our deal to publish trilema excerpts in dead-tree format, that should be on the cover.
mircea_popescu: replace the ; see
kakobrekla: or is there a length limit
kakobrekla: edit the log
kakobrekla: well tbh i can make it go either way
kakobrekla: i just saw the proposition on bbet
kakobrekla: they both are.
kakobrekla: here a question, you know whats the thing with winklevoss twins and redundancy?
moiety: BingoBoingo: what i mean is i think the biggest issue is drowsiness. theres only one that will make a person sick -- that i know of
BingoBoingo: Just because there is one building in town that will kill you for sure if you jump from it doesn't mean jumping from the other ones is an idea worth endorsing.
BingoBoingo: There's plenty where it is ill advised.
moiety: theres only one antibiotic you cant drink on, its a myth
moiety: tim, the bike crash guy, he loves it
moiety: this is true. it mimics how the body takes to other things. this doesn't translate well in me. tramadol is one of things people either do really well or really badly on.
BingoBoingo: Eh, NSAIDs weren't doing anything and this does something. They seem to scarcely prescribe much else anymore.
moiety: thats really good BB :] everything go alright then?
moiety: once one thing gets sorted, all the rest will be easier i think
ozbot: Behind the NSA's mysterious coded tweet - CNN.com
mircea_popescu: moiety so what are you up to these days
artifexd: I didn't mean to imply that it was. It is just a source of useless (but interesting to me) information. That's it. I didn't mean anything deep or important. Just a "hey, there's this thing that you may, or may not, find interesting".
moiety: pankkake: seems some's dead pools are more popular than others lol
artifexd: mircea_popescu: There's an entire website dedicated to how numbers are interesting: http://numbersapi.com/ There's lots of cool stuff in there.
benkay: on one of the many many many api's available for derping through openssl, loading the public key in first and then the private key results in garbage out
pankkake: the guy won't add things like bieber
mircea_popescu: notrly, but they prolly don't know what words mean so ok
jurov: We will say that the fund to assassinate
jurov: About assassination market: The target that had “amassed” the biggest bounty surprised us. That person is not an elected official. We decided to not include that person’s name here
mircea_popescu: 97 (ninety-seven) is the natural number following 96 and preceding 98.
mircea_popescu: wikipedia has a page dedicated to the number 97 ? bouvard & pecuchet live!
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kakobrekla: who will be the lucky winner
mircea_popescu: also this line appears in the log as #666555
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: i will end up kidnapped by senior finance types and fucking burned at the stake for my numerous heresies.
mircea_popescu: so i've been having this weeklong discussion with this polish economist guy. the results are the most fucking improbable shit. for instance... i just comitted to the proposition that there's no such thing as "fixed income" and the whole class is nonsense.
fluffypony: apparently they didn't appreciate my wit.
pankkake: I do not check the "remember me" case anymore, it helps
mircea_popescu: wait, you are actually in the active miner thread arguing with people ?
mircea_popescu: lol is the spelling accurate ?
fluffypony: how dare I question the Great Kennith
fluffypony: well my reply got deleted by the thread moderator
mircea_popescu: https://imgur.com/gallery/IVAts?no-script=true << if anyone needs visual aids for the tardstalk forum
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: that the accusation makes no sense
pankkake: what is there to lint in json? it's a pretty strict format
ozbot: JSONLint - The JSON Validator.
davout: if they want to do business in europe
davout: bitpay has an office in amsterdam, they're not licensed in any way which is going to be necessary for them
davout: like the msb license thing?
pankkake: I'm not sure why they would even need that
fluffypony: it seems to be the knee-jerk reaction when someone says something you don't agree with on the securities sub-foru
pankkake: fluffypony: it's amazing how the MP paranoia spread
jurov: ah psychiatry...but who'd pay for that ? their "investors"?
jurov: they need what?
pankkake: I believe it means ass to mouth to most of the world
mike_c: what do you call them?
pankkake: is "ATM" used outside of the US?
ozbot: The Next Unreal Tournament: Totally Free, Developed By Public - Slashdot
pankkake: http://games.slashdot.org/story/14/05/08/1910227/the-next-unreal-tournament-totally-free-developed-by-public Epic copying MiniGame
gribble: The operation succeeded.
benkay: "Mr. Anderson acknowledged that technical hurdles and cost considerations have turned the initial vision into a distant dream."
mircea_popescu: mike_c didja identify the event that lead to that 30% drop btw ?
mircea_popescu: did they have a battery explode and burn a bunch of 5 yo blonde white girls ? or what ?
davout: mircea_popescu: there are already a couple
mircea_popescu: we accept women in the treefort now ?!
mircea_popescu: i should bash the very valid gribble observation. "first" is indeed not a valid integer.
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mircea_popescu: god help you if you live in a soviet revolutionary state and dare piss on the politburo's most recent taxidermy exhibit.
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bounce: tell it the potus
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benkay: so first off is princessnell on the wot you?
mircea_popescu: princessnell what's the snag ?
fluffypony: Bitcoin early adopters can now buy their very own politicain!
fluffypony: "FEC, in ruling 6-0, says Bitcoin contribs to pol committees will be treated as in-kind contributions--same as stocks, other items of value."
davout: from the bitstamp fee thread:
TomServo: Cows, agriculture.. the food supply basically
asciilifeform: u.s. trade mags grew thinner in the '90s, then 'fattened' again with ad crapola, like the proverbial swollen torso of the starving african.
fluffypony: yeah I faked the BitcoinBourse listing as well
bounce: that the thing with three warring sockpuppets?
pankkake: specialized publication is far from dead, except perhaps the IT one
mircea_popescu: say the romanian central bank's thing or w/e.
pankkake: and of course public libraries and other kinds of subsidy laundering
pankkake: I thought their only sales left were retirement homes
mircea_popescu: except... joe blow politician prolly can't get in there anyway
pankkake: anyway, no reason one would advertise on newspapers when there's the web. cheaper, stats, targetting, etc.
fluffypony: "if you were foolish enough to buy their very own "BBS" IPO shares at 0.1 BTC each you would have earned a whopping 0.00007138 BTC in dividends in 7 months. You can expect to recover your investment in about 9813 months (818 years) at the current average dividend. If you're particularly lucky and they hit their Nov 2013 dividend high every month you can expect to recover your investment in a mere 1676 months (140 years)."
ozbot: BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today
pankkake: benkay: well, gotta target the dumb
asciilifeform: (Stierlitz [film hero] gets shot in the head. 'it must be a dum-dum,' thought Stierlitz, racking his brains.'
benkay: anecdotally, a client in the political business tells me that web advertising budgets are just touching 10% of the overall campaign budget (the bulk of the remaining 90% is...television)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: the fly: old joke - 'Штирлицу выстрелили в голову. "Разрывная"- подумал он пораскинув мозгами.'
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yeah they live in a little world of delusion. idiots.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony https://bitcointa.lk/threads/pre-ipo-symmetric-step-trading.292080/page-4#post-6318694 make that 2011 to really bother him. i don't think ANYONE from 2011 or prior isn't in the wot tbh.
benkay: there are miles between sloth and knowing one's speciality, asciilifeform.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: davout do you know what's the last thing going through a fly's head as it crashes on the windshield ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the bovine will go where the herder points. the sad part is all the folks who ought to know better.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the infantile worldview. there is no "my house" as far as teenagers go, just the place other people pay the mortgage on << i still think we're dealing with 'poverty of the spirit, not the flesh.' people fall for the 'cloud' crapola out of... sloth. don't wanna buy a disk, i'll use this stranger's. don't wanna find toilet, i'll shit where i stand. etc
mircea_popescu: i don't believe in shitting on the character set.
mircea_popescu: and with that the catholicisme francais class is dismissed.
davout: that's the way you say it :-)
mircea_popescu: failed to parse for me too, i brieflythought he is fighting the tendency of ceo types to buy telescopes to spy into the bedrooms and showers of lonely milfs.
pankkake: the old man party is Chasse, Pèche Nature et Traditions (hunting, fishing, nature and traditions)
pankkake: not really. it's the "taxes are bad" party, but he's nothing (there are actual taxpayers associations, with actual members)
mircea_popescu: lol ok. pankkake voted for the old man's "GET OFF MY LAWN" party.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic you consider adding the vertcoin thing ? or not doing scrypt coins ?
BingoBoingo: davout: That's kind of my position on the issue
davout: well then you're a sneaky bastard, wanting to legalize them so others are slower so you have some edge on them
benkay: light stinging on the cunt, eh? i'm a little more interested but it's STILL FILTHY.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: initially, it's architected for other coins, so they'll be added as time progresses
BingoBoingo: On that note I'll be headed back to the doctor soon. If I don't reappear within a few hours start praying for my testicles.
pankkake: I don't you will be able to vote for them
fluffypony: by "all the work" I mean management, not actual work :-P
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yes - we structured it as: I own 50%, Peter owns 50%, we've diluted our shareholding (equally) for the IPO. he does all the work, I operate as chairman of the board (which currently consists of me and me alone, that will change later)
mircea_popescu: no fucking ew. lick the smelly spot beotch.