artifexd: The amount I deposited doesn't match the amount I was credited. I originally thought the missing amount was the monthly fee because it was on 1 May.
davout: mod6: also i like my gpg-agent running, otherwise i woukdn't, you know, run it :D
davout: pankkake: "killall -HUP isn't a real kill, just a signal" <<< the HUP signal, so?
jurov: "director of engineering" ..maybe it was the official title for ultimate phone hotline sink for unruly customers?
pankkake: it's often used to tell daemons to reload their config
Namworld: Well I'm out for the weekend.
jurov: mircea_popescu: coinbr referral code is fully optional, and i scoop the fees by default, so i don't need one myself :D
Namworld: or someone else paid a kid to do a short video, for the same reason mentioned above.
davout: he had me at "Fein Coin is a e-currency that in the beginning 1 Fein Coin=$20"
Namworld: >>I came across a idea to make the idea of electronic currency.<<
Namworld: "My name is Ben Fein. I founded Fein Coin with the picture of letting people pay for them the buy gift cards using a mobile app. I came across a idea to make the idea of electronic currency. Enjoy. :)"
davout: i need to delete the internet icon from my computer
davout: what has the internet done
pankkake: yeah, it's annoying, I'm using 2. because of thunderbird, but then I can't use it over ssh without changing the pinentry
joecool: this is a gnupg 2.xx issue, gnupg 1.xx didn't have the problem because it didn't use pinentry
davout: joecool: wat? when i use it on servers it works fine, and with OSX everything also goes better than expectation, did you try a Ctrl+L to unfuck the term (untested)
joecool: but going back to problem one, it'll just corrupt the term anyway or not show up proper
joecool: davout: it sucks ass, there's two ways for me to use it
pankkake: fun command of the day: gpg --list-packets
mircea_popescu: davout> it encrypts the message symetrically IIRC, and only repeats the symmetric key for each recipient << this is correct
pankkake: fluffypony: that's better than the golden crackwhore
joecool: but i also have key expiry set, i can't change my key expiry unless i load up gnupg with my offline copy and change it there
joecool: i use openpgp smartcards, i don't keep my keys on any other form of storage other than my master key which is kept encrypted on an offline archive disk (this is so i can mint new openpgp smartcards if necessary)
benkay: i'm just derpy and didn't know about the multiple recipient procedure mircea_popescu
benkay: <davout> it encrypts the message symetrically IIRC, and only repeats the symmetric key for each recipient // joecool that's the deal right there
joecool: maybe someone in here with a better understanding of the inner workings of gnupg can answer this
davout: it encrypts the message symetrically IIRC, and only repeats the symmetric key for each recipient
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: http://deadspin.com/leaked-internal-scouting-report-the-patriots-do-not-li-1574040417
benkay: so then you get an email with n giant gpg blobs?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
joecool: need to have a key for the team to work that way, or encrypt each message with each member's key
davout: benkay: it's just a problem with the tool
bounce: let's write a series then
fluffypony: punkman: agreed, it was way too long in the teeth. that's the problem with fan-driven show "resurrections", often the fans are too embroiled in the show to realise that it's time to die.
fluffypony: season 5 will be the end
fluffypony: so Joel McHale's White House Correspondant's dinner speech was so bad they cancelled Community
fluffypony: I don't think there's an implied problem in that graph, it's more a statement of fact :-P
mircea_popescu: so what is the problem ?
benkay: "A group of 13-year-old girls from Nelson Mandela Bay's elite Collegiate High School have landed in hot water after being caught sipping vodka and watching a pornographic video - allegedly of one of them having sex with her boyfriend - on a cellphone.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: o yes, was just generally commenting on it being the bottom of the barrel
fluffypony: then it was like watching a car accident
fluffypony: actually I have found a place worse than the forums
davout: fluffypony: if the guy was able to write properly he probably wouldn't be that retarded :D
jborkl: so no scam, what award do they have?
jborkl: No Mpex has the double cheery truck seal
bounce: so garbage hauling is a sound investment, you say? fan of the fun lovin' criminals perchance?
mircea_popescu: and spend the proceeds on lobbying for having vessenes appointed submarine captain in the vietnamese fleet ?
fluffypony: I say we pick one of these every week, setup a bullshit site, and list it on BitcoinBourse or CryptoStocks
fluffypony: "Whitenoise is like a social network for the music industry."
benkay: they bumped to 140k i b'leev.
bitcoinpete: mike_c: ayup, i know a guy who's going to san fran for 3 months this summer to go through the yc meat processor. it's 6%
mircea_popescu: i dunno how the fuck a fixed % can work
mike_c: YC companies are supposed to hand over 6% of their company to join
mircea_popescu: pankkake i dunno why dood. ask mike_c, he understands the whys of marketcaps.
pankkake: isn't quora just a forum where ycombinators derp at each other?
mircea_popescu: isn;t that thing proposing that it's worth ~1bn, ie more than mpex these days ?
mircea_popescu: i hjave no idea wtf they must have been thinking.
mircea_popescu: wasn't the new paul graham derping about how they "frown" on corps that went through other "accelerators" because they should have been already accelerated ?
mircea_popescu: let the kids have their free speech, they'll use it for a good purpose whether they want to or not.
mircea_popescu: eh fuck em, you tell me someone's going to bother select that gnarl and paste it in browswe window ?
BingoBoingo: mike_c: There is no greater endorsement that would be competitors being forced to advertise on your platform.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what % of the various derps i ask for a quote from, receive a horribly mangled piece of nonsense that I never reply to realise that they fucked up.
asciilifeform: all i could think of was the infamous 'we had to destroy the village in order to save it' (u.s. papers, circa vietnam war)
jborkl: 'my vagina is my village.' - seen printed on a tshirt, at the university i live near. <1. That is a really big vagina 2. Does that mean they live in vagina village or that they are lesbo? I dont get it
Apocalyptic: oh most definitely but i was told never to put your dick in crazy no matter how good the lay is // they prolly wanted to keep them for themselves
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: stierlitz rose bright-and-early ('с позаранку') and tore back the curtain ('отодрал занавеску'). little did he know that Позаранку and Занавеску were Romanian spygirls. ('отодрал' can also mean 'fucked raw'; the first segment is a gag on the rus. accusative declension '-у.)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well if you listen to everything you're told...
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i imagine they make great lays actually. << oh most definitely but i was told never to put your dick in crazy no matter how good the lay is
asciilifeform: (in case anyone thinks this only works for the pheminists, http://www.nature.com/news/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-papers-1.14763 )
mircea_popescu: i imagine they make great lays actually.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: yea pretty much that. also most guys are told not to date anyone from there because they may run off with your penis in the middle of the night
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stirlitz rose from sofa and tore at the curtain, wherein a romanian spy was hiding ?
asciilifeform: 'my vagina is my village.' - seen printed on a tshirt, at the university i live near.
mircea_popescu: on like the internet or something. i didn't go into that much detail.
mircea_popescu: i'm the sort that shoots you in both shoulders and both knees, then pulls a chair close and watches you bleed.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the turmoil of the unworthy amuses me. i'm not the sort that calls the cops if you break in.
mircea_popescu: either way it's someone goofing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: languages and the arts: see if you can digest this russian tidbit: 'Штирлиц встал с позаранку и отодрал занавеску. Он не знал, что Позаранку и Занавеску - румынские разведчицы.'
benkay: mircea_popescu: i don't know how you have the fucks to give about people who communicate in gifs.
jborkl: mircea-popescu : Did I really see the Bitcoin awards list or was someone goofing?
davout: i should make a bot that echoes assbot, the chan would explode the instant someone says amazing
bitcoinpete: jborkl: now there's a difference
asciilifeform: 'i like rotting meat just fine except for the number of weevils'
mircea_popescu: funny how terminally braindamaged entities which by the very definition of the term can not possibly have a personal relation to anything
davout: "Personally, I like cryptostocks except for the amount of scams on it"
mircea_popescu: this is what various romanian derps called themselves
gribble: Conducător - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conduc%C4%83tor>; conducător - Wiktionary: <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/conduc%C4%83tor>; Şcoala Tînărului Conducător Ediţia XII-a - Seara Culturală, CLT ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRu8HyvFTwk>
bitcoinpete: "Questions about whether a market is trustworthy go to the heart of a market’s survival. Is the market fair? Is it efficient? How does it facilitate capital formation? Are investors protected? Do you trust it?"
fluffypony: asciilifeform: yeah, I'm waiting for one of the CEOs to start calling himself "the Conductor"
bitcoinpete: "The federal securities laws are built upon the premise that an informed investor is the key to robust and efficient nature of our markets." << the root problems
asciilifeform: ever notice how the tech hucksters use names like 'rails,' 'engine yard,' etc. - meant to evoke pictures of an era when industry was still in good health
ozbot: SEC.gov | Remarks to the Council of Institutional Investors
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: they should call a spade a spade and just say "was still a senior developer, but we lost a bunch of managers and needed a lead developer that needed a sense of self-importance"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` they're not really distinct. same root, abranch was broken off to rub clits with is all.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I dispute that "Director of Engineering" means what they think it means
mircea_popescu: fluffypony you dispute the track record of success ?
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete yeah, and the dictionaries end up looking like lists of contexts
mircea_popescu: princessnell my only familiarity with the term is in the context "he proposed but she demured", ie, how to end up a spinster.
bitcoinpete: hashfast vp of engineering: Amy most recently came from Engine Yard, where in less than two years she went from Senior Developer to Director of Engineering. She oversaw the development of the flagship product, EY Cloud, growing revenue by over 60% in one year.
nubbins`: i've imagined it to be like having a secret, but i suspect that's more due to my not being demure by nature than to an actual understanding of the condition
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete no i mean the bitcoin miner
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: figuring out where to put the capitals of finance for the 21st and 22nd centuries
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bitcoinpete: i imagine they'd be in europe and asia
benkay: bitcoinpete: what are the target capitals?
Namworld: I can see why they would be in demand.
Namworld: Hey, they actually look pretty nice https://www.flickr.com/photos/beatymuseum/4661706048/in/set-72157623691146419/
mircea_popescu: but, they're for some reason really desperate to push this everyman btc angle, so...
Namworld: There's a shortage of huge, hanging whale skeletons?
bounce: sold the meat to japan, or what?
nubbins`: washed up on the shores of some small communities
nubbins`: bunch of whales got trapped in the ice here recently
nubbins`: not to the same degree, anyway
nubbins`: ah, the wonders of outsourcing
Namworld: Of course now with home brands, there's less of this "name brand", but still.
bounce: the own brand stuff is made to spec by smaller shops, though they make (supposedly to different spec) for various chains
bounce: the "name brand" stuff, yes. like, unilever, kraft, nestle?
Namworld: Like most of the stuff in stores is like what, ultimately owned by 2-3 large conglomerates?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` whio the fuck can even pay attention to 12 things in a year
bounce: there's the pay people to do homework racket. I'd be interested in selling such services (getting paid to learn? cool) except that it'd enable idiots to get diplomas.
Namworld: Oh, Sobeys bought the group that held the IGA franchise in 1998. Explain why they use same brand now.
asciilifeform: long ago. before the 'edukation' racket.
nubbins`: asciilifeform, benkay: gotta pay the piper!
princessnell: egalitarians require we take their religion classes ("multicultural" courses) to graduate with any degree in most us universities
benkay: i hear tell of a mythical time where one could attempt the US bar without having a law degree.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: three credits per course was the norm << same. but with some comical undershoot. e.g. 'operating systems' took about 40h/week of actual work for most of the kids, but earned... 4 credit.
nubbins`: when i went, three credits per course was the norm
asciilifeform: (keeping them out via any means other than price is thoroughly forbidden by various laws, decades old at this point)
asciilifeform: to understand how this works, visit any u.s. location where the folks subsisting on gov. 'welfare' and petty crime can afford to live.
asciilifeform: the reason why no experiment whatsoever with cheap housing en-masse is possible in usa, is that any locale with such becomes 'infested' overnight
benkay: "i'm doing an internship this summer, and apparently i need to take an ethics course before i'm eligible for credits from the internship"
asciilifeform: one other thing about housing in usa - that is rarely spoken of in the open literature - is that the americans switched to housing price as a means of putting the '60-70s race wars on hold
asciilifeform: as mp pointed out some time last week, dynamiting the permafrost to lay foundations is costly, etc.
asciilifeform: but for some reason alaska climate puts them off.
nubbins`: not sure about the usa, but if a canadian takes a job "up north", they get a government subsidy called the "northern allowance" to offset the increased price of goods
mircea_popescu: very expensive. have to ferry all the shit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wasn't that ohio guy quoting in the 20k range ?
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nubbins`: for parking too close to the stop sign.
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asciilifeform: for so long as the racket of letting an average salaried schmuck borrow $MAXINT to repay for the rest of his life - the price floor will remain.
asciilifeform: there is definitely a palpable 'price floor', that remains solid, at least outside of war zones (e.g. detroit)
asciilifeform: rather than let price fall
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the americans found a more barbaric and elegant solution to propping up housing costs - foreclose en masse and let the buildings rot, harvested by copper thieves, etc.
mircea_popescu: labour is a dollar an hour, you don't need much more than a few hundred man-hours anyway. renting the machinery and getting some concrete/sand/brick isn't the end of the world.
bounce: so where does the cost come from, labour?
mircea_popescu: that's the product.
mircea_popescu: so the product is "getting photovoltaics to be common so they may be deemed standard so they may become mandatory so the developers can sell and the finance economy can work etc"
mircea_popescu: so, they're trying.
mircea_popescu: if they could make it so building a house cost 100k,
mircea_popescu: the actual cost to builkd a house now is ~5k.
mircea_popescu: benkay you seen the derpage ensuing from 30 btc mpex reg fee ?
asciilifeform: photovoltaics are not the product << the cocktail of self-righteous envirowhinerism and successful penny pinching (while 'pound-foolish') is the product.
mircea_popescu: if nipple piercings ensured the women carrying them will be used as fucktoys, giving away free cool nipple piercings would not be giving away any product either
hanbot: the grass must be made greener
asciilifeform: (note that the piece correctly describes the fate of apple corp. not that this deserves prize of any kind, it was pretty obvious)
mircea_popescu: "@SunSentinel · 1h Man drives Tesla from New York to Miami at no cost" who the fuck came up with this idiocy. the tesla is a luxury product. the people who buy luxury products are being sold on "no cost" housewife routines ?
asciilifeform: yeah after i noticed what attracts derpmeisters, i moved on to other, more interesting subjects
mircea_popescu: you gotta learn to ignore the reactions to the major hits and focus on discussing the others.
asciilifeform: the chinese plastic turds fail, the machines which survive years in a rucksack without serious mechanical problem, generally pass
pankkake: so there's various degrees of holding it wrong
pankkake: if you hold a macbook with only one hand too much, they'll eventually bend
asciilifeform: pankkake: that looks like the familiar Li battery swell.
asciilifeform: (this - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=316 - less-interesting - post, was an answer to the derpage generated by the above.)
mircea_popescu: I should also note that no one else makes a laptop whose metallic chassis enables it to pass the Creak Test hold a device by two opposite corners and flex gently. Do you hear a noise of any kind? If so, you are holding a mechanically-unsound piece of garbage.
mircea_popescu: Imagine that every car maker save for Toyota insisted on using the infamous East German Trabant as a standard of quality yet blindly imitated random elements of Toyotas visual design. How long would it take for the whiners to appear on the scene and start making noises about monopolistic tyranny?
hanbot: asciilifeform: i actually thought it was 'cryptographer / radioman / funker.' << s'not as cool as all that, but who can resist the allure of shiny golden insignia
mircea_popescu: not heard of them.
peterL: has anybody had experience with escrow.ms on bitcointalk forum for doing escrow? are they reputable?
pankkake: one day, I'll up on the first time
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mircea_popescu: this one is sex in baie (fucking in the bathroom). sec (dry) sin (tit) baie (mine)
asciilifeform has been dipping into the slavic influence in Ro. lang.
thestringpuller: lol sorry for derailing the conversation ~_~
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mircea_popescu: if you figure out enough of them you get a key
mircea_popescu: i had a guess the word contest whatever you call it in english
thestringpuller: i guess I'm misunderstanding the little key symbol on your blog
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller what do you mean gpog certified ?
mircea_popescu: apparently they have large penises AND large orders of magnitude in south africa
pankkake: it's actually why I like to sell on auctions: I'm not setting the price
pankkake: oh that's what the icon means?
mike_c: ok, proxy would work. if the buyer accepts your counterparty risk.
pankkake: you could action the credits
mike_c: except you can't sell them :)
mike_c: it's like selling private keys though, doesn't work. you can't enforce that you won't use the cookie after selling.
fluffypony: danielpbarron: I think the cost is too low to have a measurable impact on one's personal wealth
mircea_popescu: people ocasionalyl just want to make a donation, and so i think there are some people with 5 or 10 btc's worht
mircea_popescu: well, let's say i won't change the price until btc reaches 1mn each
asciilifeform: trilema credit is probably the life support hose keeping tor alive...
asciilifeform: speaking of derpatronics: there i was, trying to pick up some chair on the cheap, and saw:
mircea_popescu: i mean, fcc employees aren't supposed to derp on random etsy boutique blogs on their fcc connections anwyay
mircea_popescu: but what'd be the thing ?
mircea_popescu: so basically, every failed marketing fucktard in the world has by now flocked to doge coins, as a great example of the "unlimted possibility" and "all that cvould be achieved" for marketing fucktards, in their own opinion.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: their effort isn't the big deal - they published the nginx rules, and there's been a bit of uptake from other sites implementing them
mircea_popescu: i'm not on the right drugs am i.
mircea_popescu: so some random nobody throttled... the access "of fcc" to his random site nobody but you reads ?
mircea_popescu: i wanted to make a ocmment, but then i couldn't understand what comment i want to make.
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pankkake: I was able to see it with the link
fluffypony: normally it sends an email and I can reply to the mail to approve
fluffypony: benkay:Magento's a really good example of this. <- this is so freakin' true. Even worse are when they pay for a ton of dev work on Magento Community Edition and then move to Magento Enterprise, and basically have to re-engineer and re-do all the work
mike_c: asciilifeform: NYPD doesn't put up with that crap either
asciilifeform: mike_c: over here, they sometimes celebrate by wrecking shop windows, lighting fires in the road, etc. but a public and ostentatious mass police beating put a bit of a pause in this 'colourful tradition' - at least, for now.
asciilifeform: more interestingly, sometimes (at least in 'college towns') there is chaos if... the 'right' team wins. celebratory riot.