asciilifeform: 'Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle. If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send a second.'
mircea_popescu: the last paragraph is perhaps quite important, for all the "bitcoin entrepreneurs" so very eager to sign plea bargains. broz tito outlived stalin, and nearly outlived the soviets.
mircea_popescu: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18140285 << apparently they know a whole lot.
mircea_popescu: ter some delay, with a false confession allegedly written by Rostov in the death cell. This was too shameful, and it would hardly have served the purposes of reeducation." and then goes to search, curious what the internets know of rostov ?
mircea_popescu: so a man reads "But that particular December nothing positive had taken place, except for the Soviet-Chinese talks - though even they seemed to have got bogged down - and the seventieth birthday of the Leader of the Peoples. He could scarcely tell the Germans about the trial of Traicho Rostov, at which the whole blatant MISE-EN-SCENE had suddenly come unstuck in open court and the correspondents had been fobbed off, af
mircea_popescu: they can pm!
kakobrekla: (hint: they cant speak)
moiety: mircea_popescu: cus you should marry to stick by someone, not run off when they cant have sex for 24 months
assbot: Monty Python - Ypres 1914, The Short Straw - YouTube
moiety: nsa thanks you asciilifeform but they get bored of cats....i don't however, just so you know
asciilifeform reports from the unintended-side-effects-of-new-tech-department: put on new set of noise-cancellers, can now hear my tongue move. disturbing.
mircea_popescu: moiety normally they rotate quarterly, but i've done like 3 or 4 this past month cause why the hell not sorta thing
moiety: i like this one, how often do they rotate? the last one eas really nice but didnt stay as long as monoply or have i lostt time via moving - entirely pribable
moiety: such bonny coluring, folk just run in and steal them,exotic pets or fur trade gives a lot. urgh
assbot: On The Superiority of Monarchy (or, adnotations to Why the Worst Get on Top) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/on-the-superiority-of-monarchy-or-adnotations-to-why-the-worst-get-on-top/#comment-101188
asciilifeform: moiety: the cat - siberian lynx. no tamer naturally than tiger. 2nd link, the man describes how he disciplines the animal
moiety: asciilifeform: on second vid... they are pretty big fullly grown! these guys dont mind having them in home, no bother
mircea_popescu: lol what are you, the new sr madam ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'first you pillage, then you burn' or how did it go
moiety: asciilifeform: i cant understand this but tht cat ispretty huge! do you think tho that that's cat's general nature. they need, you give = omg you have a domestic - ish
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03: i would buy many write blocking devices if s.nsa offered them for sale <<< asciilifeform when are we making this man happy ?
benkay: <moiety> you know they talk back after X years right? // you should have heard the things as what came out of my mouth.
benkay: although re smacks mine responds most promptly to a squirt of water in the face.
mircea_popescu: moiety if you ever get to kill a bunch of people and a bunch of animals, you'll eventually notice the difference :)
benkay: the thing about pits is that they've got this long history of being bred to defend the family from things, where things can be everything from home invaders to bears on the plains during the trek to oregon
moiety: mircea_popescu: how do you know they are empty?
mircea_popescu: moiety you know, animal eyes are empty. the humanity you see in there is your own projection.
justusranvier: Pits are extremely affectionate dogs towards humans. Some of them have been bred for dog aggression.
benkay: because americans don't think, they react to fear moiety.
asciilifeform: there are tiger, lion tamers, in america
mircea_popescu: so then. ocelot is even worse
mircea_popescu: and maybe five other people in your town
mircea_popescu: and training means a thing. not whatever some derp has the stomach for
moiety: you know they talk back after X years right?
mircea_popescu: <benkay> that one must actually train them? << yes.
moiety: my favourite dog no one had even heard of. i like the jp chin. they are like cats you know they dont bark. does this mean im a cat lady to the bone or accepting?
asciilifeform: there's a school of thought that one should have a potentially man-eating pet, that way you know that it really likes you
benkay: that one must actually train them?
moiety: it's the life if a bad rep... it doesnt mean you are bad, just thatpeople have said you have done bad things
asciilifeform: (not the species)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: moiety: i suspect that ocelot is quasi-tame (lives on the dock, fed fish?) << not that tame from what i hear
mircea_popescu: fluffypony im not even sure, but i think 16 was back in the 90s before all the nonsense about fucking teenagers gripped the us
Mats_cd03: im using the vinco board to do it in lieu of golden toilet
Mats_cd03: i would buy many write blocking devices if s.nsa offered them for sale
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: ;; later tell mircea_popescu I just got a rather big shock.... thank you very much :)
moiety: ;; later tell mircea_popescu I just got a rather big shock.... thank you very much :]
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: ;;later tell mircea_popescu I thought he was 16/f/cali? but then again, I forgot my robe and my wizard hat...
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punkman: so these guys are gonna develop truecrypt now: https://github.com/FreeApophis https://twitter.com/doekbrijder
asciilifeform: moiety: i suspect that ocelot is quasi-tame (lives on the dock, fed fish?)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: ;; later tell unbalanced thanks :D homemade is always better http://imgur.com/a/vmd8a#2 :D we do need something to soak up the whisky lol
moiety: asciilifeform: amazing markings! especially the ears. isn't it fascinating how all cats no matter feral-ness or genus do the rubbing against your legs for attention?
chetty: yeah but emails?? who in the hell would believe that?
asciilifeform: 'we accidentally the evidence'
moiety: but they are meant to look after you!
asciilifeform: moiety: why can't you have one << sadly i lack the skills, time, resources to care for a second pet
moiety: actually, same goes for the people....
moiety: the more north/rural you go here, the less cats behave like your usual housecat. somuch roaming the wilderness in all weathers for them
asciilifeform: moiety: have you tamed one of these animals ?
asciilifeform: these are 'compatible' with regulation cat.
asciilifeform: ancestor of the domestic
asciilifeform: moiety: last i heard, it was the felis silvestris that was hybridizing with the domestic, rather than bobcat
asciilifeform is fond of cats, even if one can only look at them
moiety: asciilifeform: sounds fab! apparently feral cats here are breeding out the true bobcat
moiety: to get cats away, people put down anti-freeze because its sweet to cats D; half burying a 2l bottle half filled with water on it's side will discourage them without death
asciilifeform: it doesn't bother me (grew up in a place with, possibly, more feral cats than people)
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moiety: probably cus you don't bother him. would make sense for more feral cats to do the not covering of their mess also.
moiety: asciilifeform: re cats digging, there is a UK comedian (Eddie Izzard) who says cats are drilling (purring) and digging when they are behind the sofa lol in actuality, i think people can confuse digging for taking care of their claws. re covering their mess, incidentally they don't do this when they want to show who is boss in a household.
asciilifeform noticed first 'in anger' test of stabilizer - mains went out for ~1s, ups (upstream of stab) didn't even notice. plenty of joules in the xformer's magnetic field...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where'd you get the dervish ?
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Apocalyptic: "I think it's funny that people think a bitcoin subreddit is the center of the bitcoin universe"
mircea_popescu: pankkake methinks you take the internet too literally.
pankkake: reddit, the actual reason to sell your bitcoins
assbot: I never mined the Bitcoin or other alt. I'm investing into Petamine just to fight against CEX/GHash.IO : Bitcoin
pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/284epj/i_never_mined_the_bitcoin_or_other_alt_im/ and this is in the top posts too…
assbot: This is RIDICULOUS. Andreas Antonopoulos, I will personally pay you 25BTC if start the conversation on Eliminating Pools & Solo Miners w/ frequent payouts... : Bitcoin
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nubbins`: bbl checking out the iceberg
fluffypony: ah, so you'd struggle with circumcising me then - good to know
nubbins`: but cuttong a 15x22" sheet down to business card size, you gotta keep moving the backstop
nubbins`: now, there are back-stops you can use for consistency
mircea_popescu: they managed to make printers autofeed 30 years ago
nubbins`: your business card is cut 0.125" off-center, the card looks like shit
nubbins`: but all the placement etc is still by hand
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: ;;later tell moiety Let me know costs re: the flash drive and I'll send BTC to cover, and then once it arrives we can sort out re-shipping and your time. Thanks!
nubbins`: cutting is the killer
mircea_popescu: should be about the same thing no ?!
nubbins`: i was actually reading a gabriel garcia marquez story the other day where the guy talks about "a beautiful four-color poster"
nubbins`: i'd say one could dredge up some old letterpress machines down there if one had some time to kill
mircea_popescu: but i tell you by the way... i've seen some machinery on that hunt... this whole town's half a museum
mircea_popescu: this is just the offset. apparently you can't get special tints in digital
nubbins`: see, business cards are exactly the wrong thing to silkscreen
mircea_popescu: im gonna get it just to see wtf 100 bux buys you. but srsly, if they can deliver atthat price you prolly should move your whole operation down here
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you'll never guess what these guys quoted me for 1k cards btw.
mircea_popescu: other later sedimentary strata of the brain have trouble talking through the barrage of endorphin release
chetty: example: oh boy I got HUGE tax return = free money, completely ignoring that is the gubermint returning your money they took
mircea_popescu: both methods of organising labour are utterly horrible for anyone interested in quality work. they do deliver a very extensive array of crap
mircea_popescu: if you had to pay fiddy bux to edit github bleedin' heart would still be there and a bunch of dorks all over the web would be explaining how it's not really that bad
mircea_popescu: the only reason shit like the openssh was full of is even getting fixed at all is that it costs nothing to alter code.
mircea_popescu: you know it just occurs to me, the democratic political process and open source software have a shitload in common.
mircea_popescu: but then forgot all about how handles work ?
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kakobrekla: >Dude you created an account just to come here and troll, at least have the decency not to hide your real account. Our little section of Bitcoin is doing just fine, OgNasty is one of the most upstanding members of the Bitcoin community. To come here and claim he is running some type of scam is ridiculous. You seem to have already climbed back into your hole, please stay there.
fluffypony: yeah I'll pay the extra
moiety: fluffypony: ok so you save about £57 getting it from the us but it will take longer
mircea_popescu: dude you have some hash then :D
moiety: though i didn't mean the E and Y to be giant
moiety: 1MoiEtY7kGWwxr7isWhS492gXJZqGUbWFy << :D its even a speshul one ... kk so that one isn't the best deal imo, lemme dig a little more
fluffypony: find the cheapest new one in that list
fluffypony: moiety: from earlier - fluffypony: if anyone's interested, I'm looking for someone to buy a $900 item (aforementioned flash drive) on Amazon for me and ship it to me, will pay in Bitcoin and also pay for the effort
moiety: fluffypony: I love it, it's amazing! but i got stuck in the empty old flat for a few days and haven't had internet here. I've moved half hour drive away in the smallest car you can buy i think and me and mum aren't exactly weight lifters lol how are you? :D
fluffypony: also how is the sex weeks flat?
mircea_popescu: hey there moiety :D
gribble: moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 21 hours, 9 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <moiety> i do but there's a lot of time left
fluffypony: if anyone's interested, I'm looking for someone to buy a $900 item (aforementioned flash drive) on Amazon for me and ship it to me, will pay in Bitcoin and also pay for the effort
mircea_popescu: DAMMIT YOU CAN HAZ NO CONTENT CONTROL WITH THEZE INTERNET KIDS TODAY!
mircea_popescu: and she's doing 2quite the show
punkman: lol "An interesting addition to these drives is a small LCD display on the side that might at some point show meaning information, but sadly ours only boasted the 1TB size."
fluffypony: it's been a year since Kingston released a 1tb HyperX Predator flash drive, I can't believe no other manufacturer has one yet
mircea_popescu: well kako is more than welcome to fork it or w/e if he likes the code. tech decision.
mircea_popescu: this notion that anyone can randomly decide they'll now develop things works fine for weblogs or w/e
mircea_popescu: fluffypony it's missing two key ingredients, the most important one being - done by people i trust.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: it's roughly the system you describe - it stores a hash of a document in the blockchain
punkman: and in the interest of not writing things twice, assbot could send each bundle hash here http://www.proofofexistence.com/developers
mircea_popescu: well, it's definitely the blockchain-friendliest approach, seeing as only a hash is stored in the first place. moreover, i don't see how nonspendable tx helps anything other than pruning
punkman: but not like you'll be making tons of them anyway
punkman: not having to keep it in unspent tx list is the more important part as I understand it
punkman: also miners don't have to keep it in the unspent transactions list
punkman: less stuff in the blockchain
mircea_popescu: 2. once every 512 seconds, submitted text is checked. all that is clearsigned content by signatures in assbot's l2 gets bundled together, hashed and the hash is included in a special tx through which b-a pays 1 btc to itself with a decent miner fee
mircea_popescu: 1. somewhere on b-a website there's a text form where people can submit random text up to say 16kb in length. this all goes into db.
Mats_cd03: asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo: while I weld the server shut to drop off at the colo << if you don't already own one, a very usable spot-welder can be made from the ubiquitous 1F+ capacitors sold for use with automotive 'boom-booms.' << 'dis spark plugs?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
punkman: strange that a text adventure hit #1 on the app stores
bitcoinpete: so we get beats, the next uber
mircea_popescu: nobody wants to admit the entrepreneur does no more need the financier. horowitz least of all.
mircea_popescu: and so, the stupid meets the lazy : nobody wants to admit the fiat paper is pointless ; horowitz least of all.
mircea_popescu: in fact, it costs so little he doesn't even need horowitz. nor does he have any reason to talk to them. which he doesn't.
bitcoinpete: "In effect, a $3-5M seed round or a $3-5M "New Series A" is a recreation of the original conception of an A round from historical VC."
bitcoinpete: at least maidsafe and bitgo left a comment on the blog
bitcoinpete: coindesk kid did the same
assbot: Instagram for business: How to make the most out of timing, hashtags and more: http://t.co/uPjD35zCYK via /TheNextWeb /hashtag/socialmedia?src=hash
bitcoinpete: tweeting about the importance of instagram minutes later
mircea_popescu: i guess they share a lot of screens
bitcoinpete: o wait, the nonfunny one got more
mircea_popescu: o there you are.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: naggum's best work, unfortunately (or...) is unpublished - still likely grinding away at - oil refineries, weather bureaus, dark halls of norwegian finance, etc...
mircea_popescu: nobody ever does anything because the idiots.
asciilifeform: but hell only knows, he had other reasons to waste away than the idiots and their blather. dumped his girl shortly before found dead, too (her blog is linked somewhere in there)
mircea_popescu: So why do I not want Common Lisp to be a mass market language? Because this kind of people will want to exert influence over something that is good because it has been restricted to the elite that has made a conscious choice to be different from /something/, indeed to /be/ something. The very word exist derives from to step forth, to stand out." << this, incidentally, is why the same splooge tries to
mircea_popescu: "the kind of people who have a strong desire /not/ to think become not just a liability on their immediate surroundings, they force a change in how civilization can sustain itself when these people think they should have some power, and indeed /have/ some power qua mass consumers, where everybody is in fact just like everybody else and were being a minority costs real money if not convenience.
mircea_popescu: So why do I not want Common Lisp to be a mass market language? Because this kind of people will want to exert influence over something that is good because it has been restricted to the elite that has made a conscious choice to be different from /something/, indeed to /be/ something. The very word exist derives from to step forth, to stand out.
mircea_popescu: the kind of people who have a strong desire /not/ to think become not just a liability on their immediate surroundings, they force a change in how civilization can sustain itself when these people think they should have some power, and indeed /have/ some power qua mass consumers, where everybody is in fact just like everybody else and were being a minority costs real money if not convenience.
asciilifeform: the latter (smbx) keyboards were castratos compared to knight's
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asciilifeform: (betcha there'd still be annoying buggers who 'bah, it won't build!')
asciilifeform: unlike gurlz, widgets don't wiggle away if you're inept. persistence can substitute for talent in the case of trivial problem, hence the existence of 'instructables', 'make', et al.
mircea_popescu: they only have to... want enough ?
mircea_popescu: davout but that aside i dun see much problem with it. gavin is copying the sec, hard to find fault even should you be so inclined.
mircea_popescu: re davout's link , "take the time to run bitcoind and p2pool." << running any recent bitcoind is much worse for bitcoin than mining on ghash
asciilifeform: 'Was born in february of 1979 in city Kiev (the USSR), grew disobedient. Favourite toys: designer's sets and matches.'
gribble: You rated user Blazedout419 on Sun Mar 2 12:59:46 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: trusted trader.
davout: "There are some practical problems with carrying out that attack, though. They are likely to get caught, because it is impossible to wire money to a bank account anonymously. It seems very likely they would find themselves in legal trouble for defrauding the exchange."
davout: oh shit, it's actually the second part that's retarded
davout: "The first thing they could do would be to double-spend already confirmed transactions. For example, they could send some bitcoins to an exchange, trade them for dollars, wire the dollars to their bank account, and then announce a longer blockchain where the transfer to the exchange never happened. Now they have dollars and bitcoins." <<< such braindamage
asciilifeform: for the innocent: most usb flash drives have reprogrammable micros, with various amounts of code space.
asciilifeform: but they're still common
asciilifeform: no need to add another micro
asciilifeform: (why? ask the folks responsible, not me...)
asciilifeform: but to the microcontroller, which gives os (winblows naturally) an ignorable 'pretty please don't write.'
asciilifeform: a more interesting fact is that, if you open a consumer usb turd that has a wp toggle, it is - afaik - never connected to the flash rom proper
asciilifeform: sha256sum /dev/sdwhateverthefuck > hash.txt
dignork: but there is much more common use-case, gave a usb disk to colleague to copy a movie w.e, now i need to reformat it...
gribble: Computer Forensics Write Blockers - Digital Intelligence: <http://www.digitalintelligence.com/forensicwriteblockers.php>; Write Blockers - Forensics Wiki: <http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Write_Blockers>; Forensic disk controller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forensic_disk_controller>
asciilifeform: incidentally, there are commercial incarnations of this. used by official disk diddlers:
asciilifeform: there are really not many applications that will behave well with this.
dignork: asciilifeform: i understand the implementation complexity (not too bad), and just wonder how come it's not a marketed thing.
asciilifeform: gotta implement the mass storage command stack on both ends - a bit of a bitch
dignork: it seems rather trivial gadget, but i've never seen it implemented so far
asciilifeform: experience not so different from tasting WD-40 << mircea_popescu clearly tasted the local 'cheese' in usa
mircea_popescu: im sure here they do
asciilifeform: funny part is, betcha no one alive remembers how to pick these.
mircea_popescu: the problems of democracy.
asciilifeform: and he dealt with problems that are rather familiar to us, if superficially unrelated.
asciilifeform: whatever else could be said about herr naggum - the man had actual thoughts.
benkay: "well of course! there's no IDE for pencil and paper."
benkay: we were talking about this in the context of programming user interfaces earlier today. "programmers are just so resistant to formalizing and writing down their problems, preferring instead to just hack at their computers until the have something that sort of works".
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this is genius : writing things that are correct as you write them, and then stay correct as later readers apply them to circumstances you could not have foreseen.
mircea_popescu: the issues of "entrepreneurship" as practiced by the circus could not be better described.
mircea_popescu: another job fast. fourth, when mass markets develop, pluralism suffers the most there is no longer a concept of healthy participants: people become concerned with the individual winner, and instead of people being good at whatever they are doing and proud of that, they will want to flock around the winner to share some of the glory."
mircea_popescu: er need as the motivation to enter the field. second, an unskilled labor force will want job security more than intellectual challenges (to some the very antithesis of job security). third, managing an unskilled labor force means easy access to people who are skilled in whatever is needed right now, not an investment in people which leads to the conclusion that a programmer is only as valuable as his ability to get
mircea_popescu: "something important happens when a previously privileged position in society suddenly sees incredibly demand that needs to be filled, using enormous quantities of manpower. that happened to programming computers about a decade ago, or maybe two. first, the people will no longer be super dedicated people, and they wont be as skilled or even as smart what was once dedication is replaced by greed and sometimes she
asciilifeform: it gets rather annoying.
mircea_popescu: lol top ofthe stack
asciilifeform: (it's dumb, of course. a shaped-charge would plasma-jet through the cover, like butter.)
gribble: Loper OS » The Wisdom of Erik Naggum: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165>; fogus: The iPad as the Ultimate Imponator: <http://blog.fogus.me/2010/04/18/the-ipad-as-the-ultimate-imponator/>; Erik Naggum - Wikiquote: <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Erik_Naggum>
mircea_popescu: so someone kills the president. big deal, bout 50mn unemployed lawyers ready to take over
mircea_popescu: i dunno what the fuss is all about
asciilifeform: ^ turns out they used to do proper welds?
assbot: Opinion analysis: The triumph of the Lanham Act (and of federal private rights of action) : SCOTUSblog
Mats_cd03: http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/06/opinion-analysis-the-triumph-of-the-lanham-act-and-of-federal-private-rights-of-action/
asciilifeform didn't believe the legend of them actually doing this, until seeing the tabs. they look like pull tabs from soda cans.