moiety: i've made a start to the wiki bot commands list with assbot, i'll finish gribble tomorrow. mod6 and i working on atcbot soon. totally wiped out, night all :]
decimation: "Art, from the Great Pyramid on down, is actually about the most talented and/or self-confident bullying the rest of us into furnishing them with the resources to realize their visions, while the nice liberal dweebs pass on to us the artists? self-serving justifications."
decimation: the genius thing is that he got the critics to rave that he was writing a movie about Obamacare
decimation: re: elyisum (from steve sailor's review): "Elysium originated in a disastrous visit to Mexico in 2005. While shooting a Nike commercial in lovely San Diego, the Boer crossed the border one evening to see Tijuana, where he was abducted by corrupt Mexican cops who shook him down for $900 in return for not killing him."
BingoBoingo: Right, even though ideally the same instruction sets are implemented.
BingoBoingo: I remember when AMD fucked their compilers by cribbing Intel
decimation: if you discount Christianity's assertations about the nature, I would agree with you
assbot: Matt Adams now tied for the /hashtag/stlcards?src=hash team lead with three triples.
BingoBoingo: Fattest person on the team hit a triple https://twitter.com/LangoschMLB/status/478714633327349760
mircea_popescu: lol so then you don't count
asciilifeform: (as outlined in mp's essay on the subclasses)
asciilifeform: the wrong gay
decimation: mats: yeah that's the other point - if the "logic" of your computerized government system is reprogrammable, you've fucked up
decimation: lol re: college admissions - it's also well known that putting something like "future farmer of america" or "boy scout" or "rotc" (high school junior military "club") greatly reduces the probability of admission
Mats_cd03: yeah and for fucks sake audit your code so the peasants dont ruin elysium
mircea_popescu: "Then he got to her essay. As he remembers it, she mentioned a French teacher she greatly admired. She described their one-on-one conversation at the end of a school day. And then, this detail: During their talk, when an urge to go to the bathroom could no longer be denied, she decided not to interrupt the teacher or exit the room. She simply urinated on herself."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I kind of though that was part of the MP attitude towards building certain ideas. If you lack the captital to not roast your leg and can't ask for money, you eat yourself.
decimation: mats: heh yeah you are right. I think he was trying to convey several points: 1.) half measures don't work - shoot down the third world shuttles when they invade 2.) democracy turns to decadence - too weak to hold the allodial rights to a domain
asciilifeform: they could also saw off their own limbs and roast them. save on food cost for their startup.
mircea_popescu: i suppose that could yield them a profit.
Mats_cd03: decimation: elysium's production value was incredible. props from peter jackson's failed halo movie made it into elysium, like the flying machine
BingoBoingo: peterl: You didn't quite hit the contrapositive of my position.
decimation: I think bingo means why would they buy D series from mircea
kakobrekla: i guess we shall see about the practice part.
mircea_popescu: no but there's no difference between avoiding a debt and making a gain. inasmuch as the offer is there, it's indifferent who you buy from. if you buy from me you prevent someone else from doing so, who will in turn have to buy from the "Founders"
mircea_popescu: anyway, it exposes the hostile agents to a hard case of the "either stupid or evil" dilemma.
peterl: but buying from you does not get capital to the people who would make it work
kakobrekla: (in theory)
mircea_popescu: i expect anyone who actually thinks one of the things is worth money to buy from me first, yes.
peterl: do you expect people to actually buy shares from you, or will it just be a way to expose the sham they are running?
mircea_popescu: no. this is a way to expose the usg agents trying to push bitcoin a certain way.
peterl: ah, so this is a way to make money off the endless stream of derps?
mircea_popescu: the rent re-ipo*
mircea_popescu: because now they are actually going against sanity, much like the "havelock users" that somehow "bought" the re-ipo, briefly at 200% averages
mircea_popescu: now suppose 7/11 down thestreet from him sees this and puts up an ad : "same thing. 75c"
peterl: What happens if they sell out to a big company instead of listing?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
peterl: I figured. is there a simple way to understand it?
peterl: and how does that squash them?
mircea_popescu: what have been doing with the assbot kako ?
assbot: Elysium: Neill Blomkamp Fools the Critics Again - Taki's Magazine
decimation: I watched "Elysium" on the redeye back from hawaii last night. Steve Sailor's review nails it: http://takimag.com/article/elysium_neill_blomkamp_fools_the_critics_again_steve_sailer
kakobrekla: chill the fuck down assbot, you are not.
BingoBoingo: I think at my lowest points I made a couple tanks of gas off of them. Stopped because their editorial policies made anything useful impossible.
mircea_popescu: While Demand Media went public for a blistering $2 billion in 2011, its articles were largely useless, with titles ranging from "How to Boil Water" to "How to Turn on a Mac Computer." Google, in an effort to serve up quality content to its users, dropped Demand's articles down in the search results. The company's traffic plummeted and its shareholders were left researching "How to Write Off a Worthless Stock."
mircea_popescu: ok the rosenblatt article is quite lulzy
BingoBoingo: If getting fucked up has no consequences no one appreciates the danger of it.
BingoBoingo: Honestly I doubt anything could end civilization faster than booze without the hangover, but then... You see those opiates collapsing US civilization.
mircea_popescu: you can tlel people anything you want, they're still gonna imagine drugs are cool mkay
BingoBoingo: On the plus side though people would do anything for a bitcent.
moiety: This hasn't changed. You can explain until you are blue in the face. People do not want to listen/learn.
BingoBoingo: Also so many people fell for other idiots pitches where they were making asics in their garage. It was a nightmare.
BingoBoingo: The Coinchat tard were largely forum tards for whom the forum could not burn their money fast enough. And without and option to remotely fry their retinas I had no stick with which to educate them.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Wanted to purchase exactly what the bet could underwrite. TheNewDeal wanted something better. Even if mike_c's payment would have been lower it was infinitely more attractive because the bet could underwrite itself.
BingoBoingo: This goes into the distinction between mike_c and TheNewDeal trying to buy into my no bet against the same hard boundaries and only one of them speaking a language I could agree to.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, people kept buying cex inspite of the PMB article.
BingoBoingo: Well, people still need to buy participation in the form of Trilema credits to keep up with the cool kids. The bottom of the class will never understand the distinct difference in value returned.
mircea_popescu: and you know, collect 20 bux a week in exchange for equipment these idiots "use" to make the sun keep rising
mircea_popescu: which in turn creates a class of guys selling them participation.
mircea_popescu: the death of critical thinking in school curricula has inter alia resulted in this mass of idiots who will think they're important and meaningful no matter what.
BingoBoingo: Where the consistent loses are merely club dues.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla so clearly it's bvetter than all other investments. stop trolling :D
BingoBoingo: At its birth Cex has derps by the ISIS truckload.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: I'm talking on the low end. Last summer.
BingoBoingo: Cex.io is going to cause much more butthurt than Gox ever could and it was promoted by the same tards.
mircea_popescu: the one thing that may make a datacenter feasible is having someone trustworthy to oversee it
mircea_popescu: not the biggest cost, but a relevant factor ; yes.
mthreat: dumb mining question: is electricity the biggest cost these days? If so, has anyone set up an operation in a locale with cheap (possibly subsidized) electricity?
asciilifeform: (yes they're still extant)
mircea_popescu: "hijack the fab toolchain"
asciilifeform: even more fun than the traditional compiler infector.
asciilifeform: betcha all the current btc asic houses use, e.g. 'synopsys'
BingoBoingo: All of a sudden any user makes their own wildly incompatible bedrocks.
BingoBoingo: afaik asciilifeform HN and the aggregators banned you for a reasons...
asciilifeform: the monoculture in engineering software puts microshit to shame
asciilifeform: likewise: if the toolchain is diddled on the manufacturer's (golden master copy) end, you can own multiple (all?) ic producers.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo by open i mean, a situation that doesn't have a fixed border at the 8th column, ora fixed nuymber of pieces and no generators etcv
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If you wipe out the other pieces two bishops and a king can mate a king. actually works better with less clutter on the boardd.
mircea_popescu: nobody has a clue what's in their toolchain anyway
asciilifeform: yereaditherephurst (tm)
asciilifeform: i'd even dare to guess that the much-hyped ic fab diddling does indeed take place - but through...
mircea_popescu: the "value" of the sabotage is high. to expect an agent to do a high value thing just so YOU can capture its benefits...
nubbins`: right on! so this local arts newspaper wants to do a spread on pink eye for their july issue
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for miners ? who gives a shit, they're bricks in a year anyway << not necessarily. let's gedankenexperiment. picture scenario where the two or three remaining producers ship... sabotaged ic. (take your pick - timed self-destruct, perverted algo with collusion of 'dev' folks, etc.)
BingoBoingo: By the time a person takes it they are too late to reconsider another institution so after a year of shoveling shit they either get their act together or die.
BingoBoingo: Still, I think the matriculation test is a valuable idea.
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03: shits weak << he has you there bb.
mircea_popescu: jurov you willing to open your fiverr to the chan ? or who was it that had one, mike ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I also can't be arsed to make a Fiverr account. << yeah i kinda need fiver type of things but can'r be arsed either.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: and the all bitcoin wallets
is an outright lie. << consider the source. the guy doesn't readily know which hole his piss comes out of .
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: to my knowledge common chalk minerals are readily digested by the lungs... Electronics and chalk are another matter.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform blackboard << always wondered if mathematicians ever die of 'white lung'
BingoBoingo: They whore successfully on their own of whore for a master. Classes can be taken around that.
mircea_popescu: seems the one thing a woman can do to make sure she won't be remarkable, or remembered, is stay in school as a teenager.
BingoBoingo: Indeed, and both rose to astounding success in their whore specialties
BingoBoingo: The dark hair and ridiculous lipstick on a girl do it for me.
mircea_popescu: personally i think i'd prefer the yankee.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ah ok. when i google "argentina national drink" it says mate. I think the national drink is peronism
mircea_popescu: mthreat but you know, national drink in the sense of how romanians have tzuica and scotts scotch.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Prolly the most valuable part of my college education was learning which 40 oz bottle of Malt liquor were palatable.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you can just drink the medicinal alcohol here. i know, cause i tried it. cue "ok, that is by FAR the most ghetto thing I ever saw you do" from floored assistence
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> mircea_popescu: You know the restaurants ther would serve it... << ya prolly
BingoBoingo: I might just switch to grain alcohol and distilled water. Purity of essence for the win.
buanz0: BingoBoingo: I like my absinth with good iced water, depending on the kind of absinth I might add a bit of sugar. the cube thing is just for show.
moiety: that was originally because of laudenum though, the sugar cube, wasn't it?
moiety: BingoBoingo: never had it on ice. i need the sugar or it's so harsh to me
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: As long as the beef accompanies it.
mircea_popescu: gotta offer guests the best!
BingoBoingo: moiety: I like absinthe, but on ice. None of that sugar cube stuff. Don't want to become another Diabeetus 'Murican.
mircea_popescu: me "ow shit, that's why it tasted like shit. i thought you kept tea in the cupboard"
mircea_popescu: (also, funny story : i visit friend, she's not there, i decide to make tea. i make tea, i taste it, ittastes like shit. eventually i get bored and leave.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ever notice people walking around with a big thermos and a small silver cup with a silver "straw"?
benkay: i have a bag of mate in the cupboard
buanz0: the national drink is a herbal infusion known as mate
benkay: it comes in big gulps at the big clubs
BingoBoingo: Usually there's only a little vomitting. I've only had the experience thrice before surrendering to it being unpleasant in spite of the right genetics.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Strega's nice. mthreat buanz0 If you want to robotrip just drink the tussin. Unless you have unfortunate genetics at CYP2D6 you'll survive a bottle.
mircea_popescu: i was telling buanz0 about their bdsm party and he was all like... omg when's the next one.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: actually, a place you might like is one of the "secret" speakeasys
mircea_popescu: <mthreat> so i guess it's the equivalent of drinking robitussin << ok, i can see that.
mthreat: so i guess it's the equivalent of drinking robitussin
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mircea_popescu: haven't tried galliano and other herbal shit, but anyway
mthreat: BingoBoingo: an italian told me that in italy they drink it like a medicine
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ill give them ths much tho , you can order strega in most cafes and they'll have it.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ack, mthreat At their best bitters of any sort are a garnish, not a drink of themself.
mthreat: apparently the hipsters in SF are big on fernet right now
mircea_popescu: that's the central fernet factory
mircea_popescu: hey there.
mthreat: they mix it with coke
mthreat: that doesn't mean it can't be the national drink
mircea_popescu: i'd rather drink donkey piss.
mircea_popescu: re the reddit ghash link, "It's ironic they propose "starting" what everyone else has been doing for years." << this will be the fucking epitaph of bitcoin once it finally fucking croaks
BingoBoingo: Eh, if it isn't a good brown liquor, I'm prefer the closest thing I can find to a pure solution of ETOH and water
assbot: The problem with idioms...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Wait, no hard liqour of worth there?
BingoBoingo: moiety: So you know what they are into.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well ya they have good wine, but i mean licker
mircea_popescu: and what do you think, he's lookng for something new ?! he's not looking for novelty, he's looking for the same old thing well oiled.
moiety: mircea_popescu: do they just drink everything?
BingoBoingo: Then again as mircea_popescu pointed out last month... I probably need to target a cleaner class of girl...
BingoBoingo: So... after a lot of drinking on the matter I think I know what I'm doing with the portable.
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> heat math << unterseeminer. << going into the trouble with pressure watertight sealing for hardware with lifespan measured in months? dunno << he has a solid point. the most important effect of overheat is shortening lifespan of chips. for miners ? who gives a shit, they're bricks in a year anyway
BingoBoingo: I don't have resources to interfere with random blogs much less pools. Pool politics is getting rather Nasty. Reminds me of that place upstate named after it's stench.
BingoBoingo: Does anyone here know how firearms laws work at the intersection of Panama and COlumbia?
bitcoinpete: i basically don't drive in the summer… all 4 months of it here
BingoBoingo: I just like the idea of a car that is acceptable to move from one garage to another by one's hands and feet
moiety: they are meant to handle brilliantly
moiety: i honestly think they only look good hard topped
moiety: my uncle refurbed one for my mum as her first car before minis had their revival and panels were still £15 each. great wee car.
moiety: well the thing is, you can fit a six foot person in np, because there is nothing inside. ther foot wells are bare. so seat right back and you can fold a large person in. their head sort of skiffs the roof though
BingoBoingo: moiety: I have a suspicion the redneck's intention for the turtle was soup, but... Would not be surprised if the turtle won.
moiety: the old minis are fun little things
bitcoinpete: there's not a lot to drive to or by
moiety: you encounter a lot of wtf shit whilst driving BingoBoingo, like the pizza-sized man-grappling turtles and floods from nowhere
bitcoinpete: but some cars have a way of worming their way into your heart
bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: as the passenger, sure
BingoBoingo: Eh, I don't judge my road experiences on what I'm driving, but on the WTF shit I encounter.
bitcoinpete: it was one of the funner driving experiences i've had
moiety: bitcoinpete: that's immense! thanks for the link, so nice to read an actual experience of it :D i also didn't know: "A 5-speed manual was available from the factory, but of the 20,000 Figaros produced, only a small fraction had the do-it-yourselfer installed."
gribble: They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao>; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/perfect-money-corrupts-absolutely/>; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/>
Mats_cd03: give it a few years and that bitcent could convince klye to enact the scene for you
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: The thing is for this purpose he is to... not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for someone as lost with the English Language as I am reading Romanian Trilema articles.
Apocalyptic: the issue is he is a poor writer
bitcoinpete: moiety: one day, i would like one of these http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/nissan/1367206.jpg <<i've driven a figaro! very rare 'round here. http://www.carenvy.ca/2011/09/an-afternoon-aria-driving-on-the-wrong-side-with-the-nissan-figaro/
BingoBoingo: Where do the Bitpoor hang out nowadays?
BingoBoingo: The true threat doctorine is bullshit, and will not stand.
assbot: Elonis v. United States: Supreme Court will hear the Facebook speech case.
BingoBoingo: Fuck Facebook http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/06/elonis_v_united_states_supreme_court_will_hear_the_facebook_speech_case.html
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
Mats_cd03: cant hold his lies together properly
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Don't forget local wallet on machine separated from the internet...
pankkake: and the all bitcoin wallets… is an outright lie. there is at least a clear line between web wallet where you don't have the key, web wallet where you have the key but malicious js can be served, and local software
pankkake: lol at the bullshit answers
BingoBoingo: Nice. I've always liked the idea of something simple like a Lotus 7, but... In practice I prefer a more disposable conveyance.
moiety: saw a black one roll through my new town other day!
moiety: one day, i would like one of these http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/nissan/1367206.jpg but i want to modify it to manual gearbox and bigger engine (they are only 1L autos)
BingoBoingo: moiety: The drive was 2 minutes of terror and three hours of boredom.
bitcoinpete: Derpopolous: "All bitcoin wallets are “potentially insecure”, blockchain’s less so than anyone else." "100% security doesn’t exist. There are weaknesses in any system. We manage these risks…"
BingoBoingo: Well drained roadway with deep ditches on both sides, but the rain was falling faster than the water could runoff.
BingoBoingo: moiety: Yeah. Was driving this morning and the temperature jumped 20 degrees... Then the rain came...
moiety: washed off the road? were you driving? :o
BingoBoingo: moiety: I managed to survive the winds, but was nearly washed off the road this morning.
moiety: you survived the storm BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: There was an earlier discussion about existing BTC ASIC maker's mistake.
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nubbins`: what's next, wolves giving sheep "get out of shearing free" coupons for grazing further from the shepherd?
assbot: Barrys new tell-enough memoir tries to recast Mayor for Lifes legacy, deny troubles - The Washington Post
BingoBoingo: Let's get out the tinfoil bitches.
nubbins`: if you look up the docs for codename GIGA it's all spelled out
benkay: it's the Government pool
BingoBoingo: Maybe we should start the rumor that Ghash.io is Government has, and refer to it as G-Hash and its operators as the G-men
BingoBoingo: And the Altcoin Market remains a standoff
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Well, Perhaps in the quad there will be a block of slate for the caned to bend over. Because slate is the correct writing surface in a classroom...
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: I'd prefer you just have the good sense to realize the inherent superiority of Chalk on Slate.
BingoBoingo: Also at Bingo University, anyone who commits the crime of introducing a whiteboard to the campus will be caned in the Quad.
BingoBoingo: The Pre-Freshman year reading will be Spinoza's ethics. There will be a matriculation exam.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: At least the students will be comforted that the summer reading before freshman year will never deviate.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: By the time it happens I imagine I'll still be boozing, but the kids will be on their medical PCP or whatever.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: When I start a university the prospective students are going to have to interview under the influence.
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
asciilifeform: from the lolpharmz:
BingoBoingo: trinque: Did you know that there is a device for accessing any secrets stored in a living human's memory.
BingoBoingo: trinque: SO you're a 'Murican afraid of the gasenwagen as well
BingoBoingo: In a few centuries assbot error messages will be studied in the Classics department.