kakobrekla: lots of fun css files in the dropdown
pankkake: well the white version looks much worse without my base firefox styles: https://i.imgur.com/uCtNgFa.png (except for graph integration)
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
FabianB: curious about the next bbet statement
jurov: okay, if 30day volume will be NaN then it propagates into NAV calculation and all hell will break loose
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kakobrekla: get yourself in the wont if you want to talk
jurov: "the lineup still doesn't include any African-American characters"
jurov: Mats_cd03 we aren't there yet. apparently there's still "diversity gap": http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2459629,00.asp
adrrr: (the picture)
adrrr: the picture is a joke
benkay: i do all of my ui with the htmldollar
benkay: you mean the dollar?
kakobrekla: so we are not changing the css?
kakobrekla: but it would make the number smaller or bigger. :(
benkay: yeah hey i mean they're really small numbers
kakobrekla: i usually use the shorthand ==(=)
benkay: <kakobrekla> adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind // ah i always knew it mircea_popescu is a DAC
jurov: so what is the problem?
adrrr: no not css or anything. By the way nice website ! I just think the odds are to bad to play. It's just what I think :D
kakobrekla: i can fix it in the css.
kakobrekla: adrrr you want the number bigger or smaller?
kakobrekla: fluffypony there is some intersection for sure.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: ;;later tell moiety I think I found the first cat that can take on a manul: http://i.imgur.com/PZNxrN4.jpg
kakobrekla: adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind
mircea_popescu: i can't wait until people start reading the logs before they think they're being all newsworthy and shit
Dimsler: i can't wait until the first kidnapping for btc occurs
mircea_popescu: i recall back in 2012 when i was beating the bushes for sane iranian peoples lol
mircea_popescu: aite then. dealing with iran isn't such a bad thing anyway
davout: i desire them, that's what's special
mircea_popescu: i dont see what's so special about them but anyway
davout: also they were featured i some tv bitcoin documentary, what decided me to get some was how the iranian shoe maker made fun of the western journalists shoes
davout: their shoes look rad
mircea_popescu: too strong statements put you in the unenviable position that a ready counterexample can be constructed that speaks to what you say, and then your entire argument looks weak, where it needn't.
mircea_popescu: take pussy for instance. pussy is constructed with the average user in mind. it's not shit, that's a different hole.
mircea_popescu: Right off the bat, we see that Litecoin is pitched at the average user. This, of course, is a huge red flag that Litecoin is doomed to failure. Anything aimed at the lowest common denominator must necessarily be shit. <<< like what, like air ?
mircea_popescu: if you say "<<At around US$30/LTC, its more affordable to outright purchase too. >> This author, like many a CoinDesker, is of the mistaken belief that buying a whole shitty thing just because you can afford it is better than buying a part of something far superior. Today, you can buy a million satoshis for $6 or you can buy most of the Dogecoin for sale on the market. Incredibly, some people will actually go for the la
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete you know, your litecoin article'd benefit from a lot more reductio ad absurdum and other directly-obvious proofs to displace most of the appeals to authority.
davout: did anyone buy the emblematic iranian shoes?
jurov: *they
los_pantalones: out of the country ?
jurov: los_pantalones what's better word for poor schmucks like me that need to get the fiat out somehow?
los_pantalones: i always thought UAE would be the best jurisdiction for btc
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mircea_popescu: lol the voiceless!
mircea_popescu: ore disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks ar
mircea_popescu: The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigger,
mircea_popescu: seductive, and S. 190 goes down in flames before a horde of political activists chanting that easy money is sound, and opposing it is racist, nazi, ignorant, and generally hateful, the recent S. 190 debate on limiting portfolios (bond issue supporting dud mortgages) by government sponsored enterprises being a perfect reprise of the debates on limiting the issue of new assignats in the 1790s.
mircea_popescu: Then knowledgeable people complain that the evil financial network is heading for disaster, that the government sponsored enterprises are about to cause a “collapse of the total financial system”, as Wallison and Alan Greenspan complained in 2005, the government debates shrinking the evil government sponsored enterprises, as with “S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005″ but they
mircea_popescu: Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil financial network is bigger than the honest financial network, with the result that even though everyone knows what is happening, people continue to use the paper issued by the evil financial network, because of network effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use if you want to do business.
assbot: Feds put up signs telling cats to stay away (Psst! Cat's can't read.) | The Libertarian Republic
mircea_popescu: but re the paper conundrum, take this ancient quote : trilema.com/digging-through-archives-yields-gold
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's been through the years the most popular scam. "deposit lump sum, we'll pay you a few %s of it a few times. annuity ftw!"
pankkake: paying dividends seems the way to keep investors happy
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jurov: afaik it was the case with fiat before central banking
mircea_popescu: the only reason this isn't the rule now is the relative small size of the deals, which makes cluelessness seaworthy
mircea_popescu: all the "everyone made ROI hand over fist with a 60% btc loss" crowd will be well served.
mircea_popescu: (stuff like "deposit your bitcoin with for 50% per annum!!1" small print "repayable in either bitcoin or fiat at our option")
mircea_popescu: increasingly more respectable firms will be offering btc denominated savings accounts with a fiat clause as the cheapest most accessible way to get in the game
mircea_popescu: on the short term, 2015-2016, it'll be AMAZING what sort of interest people will be able to earn if they don't actually want their bitcoin capital back
kakobrekla: ah i get it, the bitfinex model
chetty: <mircea_popescu> <jurov> if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything<< well your slaves can do it
mircea_popescu: <jurov> if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything
chetty: so in Pennsylvania if you don{t log into a bank account for 6 months the state takes it
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pankkake: well, http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/28/tongue-piercing-disabled-paralysed-magentic-stud-wheelchairs-smartphone
jurov: if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes
davout: asciilifeform: it's much funnier to change the background to a full screen shot, and then hide the icons
davout: lol, i guess it needs to be tailored to the target
davout: well, if each time you leave your desk without locking your session you find full-screen gay porn playing upon returning there you start paying attention to locking your session
davout: nsfw can also help improve security policies at the office
mircea_popescu: http://files.sharenator.com/They_said_I_could_be_anything_Infinite_Picdump_117-s598x462-311626-580.jpg << here you go.
pankkake: somehow I feel the last links are NSFW
davout: i can't wait for the triple-entry accounting illustration
kakobrekla: its inset buttcoins in the bck
jurov: she prolly forgot the text "insert bitcoins here"
assbot: I scared myself today | The Musclehead Gym
mircea_popescu: http://muscleheadgym.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/i-scared-myself-today/ << i wonder how this guy's post'd look like if a cop had picked him up for gta, and then kept him under key until such a time a translator could establish the woman's not angry at having caught a thief but relieved at having been broken into her car.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, my pyjamas have little octopuses on them, my table is an inch of glass, i prop my knee under it while sitting. 3rd fucking thims this morning i had a peripheral vision panic of "WHOA WTF ARE THOSE"
mircea_popescu: how was your father's day btw ?
pankkake: will the prices be public?
mike_c: or, if i'm putting words in his mouth, then that's what i think at least.
mike_c: jurov: for the record, my retarded comment was about buying the coins to sell, not your theory :) but i agree with mp that I don't think the bitstamp price will have much to do with the auction price.
mircea_popescu: pankkake you don't have to use the exchanges. you can just undercut los_pantalones here :D
los_pantalones: and i think the process is not bad, chunky sizes to better financed entities
jurov: but still.. maybe it's the same derp who bought s.dice day after divs were paid
pankkake: can the exchanges even handle 20000 coins? that sounds risky for a quick profit
los_pantalones: i thought the market should have rallied on the auction news, it wasn't necessarily clear how they would sell the coins
jurov: yes.. i got no explanation then.
mircea_popescu: jurov kinda nonsensical. if he dumps the price he gets competition.
assbot: This is just about everyone on the Internet pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: you saw this guy : http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-just-about-everyone-on-the-internet/
jurov: mike_c i don't understand the sentiment, either... rather suspect someone hopes to win the auction and is tryng to dump the price
los_pantalones: mike_c i've noticed a lot of people arguing that everyone who buys in the auction is going to sell into the market
chetty: Obama announces 275 US troops WILL be sent to Iraq to protect American embassy in Baghdad days after saying they would not return = suicide mission
mike_c: ^ wtf? people think marshalls are going to dump the price?
los_pantalones: i'm no mathemagician, but that seems high
mircea_popescu: "The company will publish financial statements and certified audits frequently to make calculation of operating expenses transparent."
mircea_popescu: i dun recall them actually delivering 5k of the things, they had a limited supply prolly bought off some suprluss deal.
mircea_popescu: pankkake how many coins would that be? << the early (only) bfl delivered miners were commercial fpgas, so you know... a lot.
mircea_popescu: "we also knew what chips bfl had sanded off in 2013 way back in 2011, which allowed us to beat them to the punch by two years but keep quiet about it"
pankkake: also, why would they need to raise funds
pankkake: Our first larger scale immersion cooled cluster consisted of 6048 Xilinx®Spartan-6 FPGAs in 24 tanks and was built in early 2012 with the Bitcoin still below $5.
mircea_popescu: "During years of engineering time, we have built a network of partners, resources and contacts in Asia, Europe and the USA." yet the best they could do was still havelock.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if document is genuine, this is likely a 'marketing scheme' for the usg blacklist crap. << if it is it'll backfire, ppl get to learn first hand just how harmless btc actually is by telling these folk to stfu / ignoring them
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: jurov: but upon presenting them, namworld sid he can do better and old logo was actually okay << hey, my vote won!
mircea_popescu: but then what's that scrape when blackberry wouldn't give its keys to some foreign, i don't recall, russia was it ?
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if document is genuine, this is likely a 'marketing scheme' for the usg blacklist crap.
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
jurov: but upon presenting them, namworld sid he can do better and old logo was actually okay
jurov: they are not employers but freelancers/partners, what makes things worse
jurov: and still learning to manage people and other company/accounting intricacies
assbot: How did the RCMP crack BlackBerry’s security? | Ottawa Citizen
assbot: Hidden message on the new sourceforge TrueCrypt site
davout: fluffypony: meh, we're basically back at the time where you could nuke ppl
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Fiverr takes Bitcoin now, well worth making an account - there's so much stupid shit I've used Fiverr for it's well worth it
fluffypony: it works, but the text is all fuzzy
BingoBoingo: I'd almost venture to say based on Opportunity costs that the F-35 might have been as injurous to the US as Iraq
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mircea_popescu: no wonder they can't get talent.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You have to realize everything he does is the near opposite of what you enjoy and consider healthy
mircea_popescu: look at that man. he went in there all plump and looking 35. a decade later he looks 60
mircea_popescu: http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5384eff869bedd306fc96e9e-800-/ap53047226600.jpg << dude the white house has a skeletronizer somewhere.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that'd have required people with something other than cotton between their ears living and breathing in washington
mircea_popescu: o yeah, and of the ~50bn spent on reconstruction (1% of total, or 10x the benefits) pretty much nothing of any use was built.
mircea_popescu: NOT worth it. in fact, if the usg simply invested its 7trn budget into bitcointalk "investments" the us would be ahead today
mircea_popescu: that's 0.1% of the total cost, roughly speaking.
BingoBoingo: I though at least a full trillion disappeared into the hole and graft...
mircea_popescu: the revenue from iraqi oil was 5 bn in 2013.
BingoBoingo: No dispute there.
mircea_popescu: and since we're discussing the war in iraq, let's debunk some common myths. the us has spent close to 2 trillion on it so far, which balloons to 7 trillion if you count interest payments, as the us is flat broke (the affair will be paid for by 2055ish).
BingoBoingo: Well, UN sort of Statehood is, but they can prolly keep this feudal de fact autonomy going a few decades. Also UN sort of statehood is on its way out.
BingoBoingo: At the moment though Iraqi Kurds have money, they actually like the hardware the US left them, and Turkey prolly wants to trim its welfare rolls...
mircea_popescu: the notion of any sort of kurdish state would require commitment to the level of 100k boots on the ground for a few years, and then ongoing support a la israel.
BingoBoingo: Sure, they probably take the south. The Kurds keep the productive north. Isis keeps the bullshit parts.
mircea_popescu: i think iran will invade if that's on the books.
mircea_popescu: the us paid ~500mn to boost online reputation of white house official.
assbot: There Are No Giraffes In Ghana, Delta
BingoBoingo: http://screamer.deadspin.com/there-are-no-giraffes-in-ghana-delta-1591759195/+Sean-Newell
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell decimation something in the long run you'l have to grapple with here is the apparent aversion people have to eating strange.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
decimation: right, but the point is that a realistic nuclear attack isn't going to be much more damaging than conventional bombs if defenses are prepared
Mats_cd03: uh and the trillions in infrastructure damage?
decimation: so - civil defense got the boot.
decimation: this is an inconvienent fact if you want to hype the bomb into a mega-weapon in order to manipulate the masses into supporting your "peace programs"
decimation: it's a bit wordy, but the bottom line is that civil defense against nuclear weapons is extremely effective
assbot: Declassified effects of nuclear weapons and other threats: minimizing weapons effects on civilians
decimation: asciilifeform: I think you wrote about how the effects of the nuke bomb were seriously hyped back in the cold war days. Here's an interesting link: http://glasstone.blogspot.com/
decimation: perhaps the fate of the US is to have a "russian 90's" and then see a putin-like figure arise. I kinda doubt it though, because of the intense allergy us folk have to anyone telling them what to do
asciilifeform: anything resembling 'accountability' would see the entire orchestra demolishes, the earth where it stood - salted.
asciilifeform: decimation: visit any university lab in the u.s., anywhere. invite a postdoc for a drink, ask how much of what is done stands any chance whatsoever of 'working' - in the customary meaning of the word.
decimation: lol the scott locklin article. basically the NIF is a shrine to big engineering project meets pseudoscience
asciilifeform: just remember kidz, we're all connected to each other and the universe through quantum-intestinal resonance.
decimation: well, "popular science etc" are pretty much there today
asciilifeform: just to keep the heat on
asciilifeform: 'наука и жизнь' ('science & life', the russian equivalent of the - pre-90s-decay - 'scientific american') circa '91-97 was running pieces on nostradamus.
decimation: the mind reels. the amusing thing is that most of the "red state" enemies of the USG elite all think democracy is the best thing since sliced bread
asciilifeform: thought pandering to bureaucrats sucked? try the public.
asciilifeform: all the 'democracy' catabolic collapse processes get thrown into high gear when the paycheques stop coming.
asciilifeform: physicists selling 'biorhythm' charts in bazaars to feed their children, etc
asciilifeform: re: nasa & collapse - the very same thing happened in ussr
BingoBoingo: 2lbs of them already fired for $3.50
BingoBoingo: OMG, these chicken livers were prolly my best purchase this year.
asciilifeform must have spammed the moldbug-on-cs link a thousand times
decimation: yeah moldbug talks about the same phenomenon in computer science
asciilifeform: e.g. the fusion folks
asciilifeform: easy target. but understand that u.s. academia is divided into pissant fiefdoms entirely like the climate chumpatron
asciilifeform: plenty of physics folks still getting bread ticket there. but they are taught - on what toes not to step.
decimation: well, the current pseudoscience shamanhood appears to be the climate change wing of the party
asciilifeform: decimation: gotta understand why they threw this fellow under the bus to cover for the shaman
BingoBoingo: decimation: KDE isn't a desktop environment anymore though. It is nao a kitchen sink circle jerk. Eventually they'll make a kernel... Just you wait...
decimation: and was confused when he thought his nominal job title meant anything to the way power is actually excercised
decimation: So, basically the guy was fired because he was put in charge of a Party member
decimation: In addition, NASA?s Guhathakurta pointed to a core philosophical theme, about the connections among the building blocks of the universe and their connection to human beings. ?People will have now seen it with their own eyes,? she said. ?And they will see that at a very deep level ? a molecular level, really ? we are all connected to each other.?
assbot: Lives of the Stars, Courtesy of Whoopi Goldberg, Madhlika Guhathakurta, Ro Kinzler and A Cast of Millions | Women's Voices For Change
decimation: where did Ms. Guhathakurta pop up in google? http://womensvoicesforchange.org/lives-of-the-stars-courtesy-of-whoopi-goldberg-madhlika-guhathakurta-ro-kinzler-and-a-cast-of-millions.htm
bitstein: ;;rate bitcoinpete 2 Great blog, brought me into the #bitcoin-assets WoT.
assbot: Livermore Engineer's Mysterious Death / Investigators in the brutal slaying of Lee Scott Hall -- who found a flaw in a billion-dollar project -- are exasperated by the lab's lack of cooperation - SFGate
asciilifeform: at least they didn't plug him
decimation: "?I believe that the problems in the Heliophysics Division are dominated by the continuing actions of Dr. Madhulika Guhathakurta,? Chenette wrote. ?By her actions she chooses not to work as a member of the Heliophysics Division team. More than any other person she has been an unusually divisive and polarizing presence in the heliophysics community.?
decimation: examining the details is interesting though. Here's a USG employee who was actually "fired" - and he named names: http://www.spacenews.com/article/civil-space/40868nasa-heliophysics-director-fired
asciilifeform: decimation: not a secret. only throwing some light on the mechanics.
decimation: ascii, as long as USG is able to keep the bezzle going - joining the bezzle wot is going to be profitable. Ivies are the traditional entrance to the bezzle wot
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The mercy problem. They have 1 year to study before becoming the shit they shovel.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine gnome is one of those abandonware projects like gnash people flock to merely for their existence
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what problem. the 'patient' is 100% microzoa by weight at this point.
BingoBoingo: See. I imagine a solution to this problem. Matriculation exam and a subfreshman class aspiring to not shovel shit the next year.
mircea_popescu: exactly how the chinese ended up ruled by manchuku, too.
asciilifeform: the next stage of pipeline for the ivy kids (employment, either directly in .gov, or the many quasi-private arms of the ussa hydra) follows the same formula.
mircea_popescu: signals be signals, all i need is to know what they mean.
mircea_popescu: yes but economy has the same age old problem : it's real. once i know that ivy league predicts non-competence im not hiring them anymore.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but it's max grade from the forum's investor grading thing. A+++
asciilifeform: but in order to provide this service, they must maintain the illusion of 'we only recruit True Genius!'
mircea_popescu: i bet they do
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they make it virtually impossible for a kid to flunk
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 15k for nothing << surprisingly few people are aware of an interesting scam the 'ivy' unis run
Apocalyptic: what shit can people come to these days...
mircea_popescu: Admissions officers pay as much attention to students choice of essay topic as they do to the details in their essays, Motto told me.
mircea_popescu: , breakfast or dinners, but it does include lunch and a range of guidance, both before and during the four days, on how students should fill out college applications and best showcase themselves.
mircea_popescu: Michele Hernandez, another prominent admissions counselor, runs one or more sessions of an Application Boot Camp every summer in which roughly 25 to 30 kids will be tucked away for four days in a hotel to work with a team of about eight editors on what she told me were as many as 10 drafts of each of three to five different essays. The camp costs $14,000 per student. That doesnt include travel to it, the hotel bill
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Looked like a warning shot. I imagine actual violence comes later.
TheNewDeal: yah I was going to say, the sipa chart doesn't show much of a bump http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth-10k.png
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: It wasn't a long thing, seemed like a strong warning.
BingoBoingo: The Ghash.io DDoS
TheNewDeal: didn't seem to slow the hashrate
benkay: prase the handjobs!