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BingoBoingo: Sometimes the fun in an activity comes from the potential for breaking, and the times people break reinforce the excitement.
punkman: moiety: yeah that seems to be a common theme where brits go to vacation
moiety: i watched this program called "What Happens in Kavos" and it was all people like that. broken legs, ribs, noses but so wasted they either don't notice or don't feel it enough to do anything about it
BingoBoingo: adding hypothetical future and past bets
TheNewDeal: it doesn't analyze only the current list of bets to date?
TheNewDeal: here's a potential suggestion to ponder, we can talk about it more if I get back at you. Placing future bets to see how the pot changes
BingoBoingo: punkman: Maybe give it a new name then...
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BingoBoingo: "get away with" at the cost of setting a horrible precedent
TheNewDeal: neglecting the 1% fee...
TheNewDeal: if you originally bet 1 btc, you could "get away with" selling .5 btc at double the timeweight
TheNewDeal: depending on the amount being purchased though
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Sure I offered a discount, and I tried offering you the same as well. A discount and a synthetic weight though are very different animals.
TheNewDeal: which is essentially the same thing
BingoBoingo: Even though the circumstances in which the actual underlying couldn't cover the synthetic would have been exceedingly unlikely... Trading on an artificial weight would have set a bad precedent.
BingoBoingo: Maybe if I MM'd MPOE options I'd feel comfortable offering a synthetic, but as a person who MM's ATC...
BingoBoingo: Well, there's also the problem whereing I lack the experience and reputation to feel comfortable selling a synthetic bet.
TheNewDeal: I think it's rather trivial to price them, but finding something that would make sense financially between the two of us was the difficult task
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Well, it was a simple disagreement in pricing. Particularly how to price these things. We both disagree on how to do it.
TheNewDeal: bingoboingo, that we weren't able to strike a deal on the difficulty had little to do with wording. More to do with you placing your bet later than I trying to sell my Yes bets
moiety: TheNewDeal: yeah i get a note when manul is mentioned so i just returned a picture.... like a manual manul bot, if you will :D
BingoBoingo: Well, Obama's a lawyer so he just kind of holds these things himself
BingoBoingo: You know like the ones that order those drone strikes
BingoBoingo: The first time a keylogger was mandated may have come from one of those seekrit courts
TheNewDeal: I was asking what was the first time you heard of that
TheNewDeal: so I was just reading about the sentencing of Sabu. does anyone know the first time a judge mandated a keylogger in the USSA?
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BingoBoingo: justlurking: You could do the thing I did, pick a silly name and then later find out you are stuck with it.
BingoBoingo: justlurking: Another one of Pete's jews?
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BingoBoingo: It's really amazing how many catecholemine affecting drugs are merely the base chemical with various things snipped or tacked on...
TheNewDeal: what is the way to rate a dopamine reuptake inhibitor
BingoBoingo: I'm telling you that cholorine atom on the ring is the only thing holding it back from greatness and success in the back alley
asciilifeform: pharmacologically weak, like 'nonalcoholic' beer, rather.
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: useless is perhaps wrong word
asciilifeform: mine must've had a good payola year, because they had costly hp units
asciilifeform: depends on the uni
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: usually chinese digital scopes, like mine
TheNewDeal: what do they have in university labs? I always assumed those ones were very inexpensive
asciilifeform: it'll put you over the weight limit for most airlines, though.
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: if you want a new unit with reasonable bandwidth - a few $K.
asciilifeform: benkay: i hear they'll let your machine through if you bring it as... carry-on baggage
TheNewDeal: in other news, "US Marshal only spelled with one L"
TheNewDeal: or at least that is what the article claims
dignork: usms later said that these are not bidders, just people that where asking for clarifications
TheNewDeal: we could import it in parts and then bujild it
TheNewDeal: who's going to run a cnc shop? I work on cnc equipment at the moment
mircea_popescu: "This mechanism is easy to devise following a community discussion that establishes the principles"
benkay: except that it gets stopped at the border.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck can current miners preserve ths investment lmao
mircea_popescu: The header is signed with the coinbase transaction's private key, and the hash (SHA256(SIG(header, privkey))) of that signature is smaller than a second difficulty parameter Y.
mircea_popescu: i guess scammers and academics will never stfu are they
mircea_popescu: "Overall, it provides a gentle fix to the recent GHash fiasco"
benkay: how on earth are you supposed to run a machine shop when they hold your mills at the border?
benkay: lol except for the machinery
mircea_popescu: the peso looks well in trouble lol
mircea_popescu: also exactly where the vc wants them : once they're in the ring they pretty much gotta close, no matter what the termsheet.
mircea_popescu: which is the worst thing that can happen to the hound. the poodles... well... what do they care.
BingoBoingo: 2.5 ish is stil close to 10% of their last fundraising round
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: So 3-10 million burned
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BingoBoingo: Bitpay continues burning money at an alarming rate http://valleywag.gawker.com/there-will-be-a-bitcoin-ncaa-bowl-game-1592534915/+laceydonohue
asciilifeform: usms manages to get SCAMMED << had urge to bet on this, immediately after the press release. then understood that probably 'badBet.'
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: never really knew his real name << http://trilema.com/2011/fetele-bitcoin-ului-episodul-iii/ like.
mircea_popescu: o boy. that'll be the lol of all time.
TheNewDeal: what do you mean exclusive, like the sole copy?
mircea_popescu: for all the usg knows, we all have a copy, and the keys, and are sitting here lolling at their punk ass.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal right.
Naphex: here is a question, will USMS send the bitcoin to the winer or give him private keys/paper wallet?:)
mircea_popescu: the difference between us being, of course, that i've had occasion to beat things out of people.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: they don't have the keys (at least not that they've admitted to), but once they have them they can beat the keys out of him with a wrench << this is a dubious proposition at best.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones: does anyone know if the us govt has control the private keys on the silk road wallets ? << they claim they do.
Naphex: the cookie hashing scheme seemed a bit lacking
mircea_popescu: ok so believe it or not, trilema credits just had its first hash collision. two guys with very reasonable emails + their ips hash as the same thing. who knew.
mircea_popescu: * chetty thinks MP has been reading tea leaves again// << the funny thingbeing... i don't even drink that much tea :D
mircea_popescu: <punkman> 9393 was only the winners' input btw << well yes.
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dignork: tl;dr version: we add another puzzle with controllable difficulty, which pool will have to solve, but it uses privkey, so he won't outsource it.
dignork: punkman: this proposition does not solve anything really. gigahash will run his private servers to solve the second puzzle, happily keeping 99% of hashing power.
punkman: yo dawg I heard u like difficulty: "The header is signed with the coinbase transaction's private key, and the hash (SHA256(SIG(header, privkey))) of that signature is smaller than a second difficulty parameter Y. "
mike_c: if only there were a way to verify who wrote an email..
fluffypony: "If you are on my investors mailing list this is the email number. Please cross check.
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mike_c: i would hope so. diff flipped on the 18th though.
asciilifeform: it is very reminiscent of the 'atheism books' one finds in u.s. shops. if you were never a christian, they're a total snore.
asciilifeform: ^ finally forced myself to read that book - not a fan. despite not really disagreeing with the arguments (to the extent the man bothered to make arguments)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
l337: it must be painful spending it once the dollar goes to shit
fluffypony: ;;8ball will 1 Bitcoin = 1 Bitcoin by the time we hit 2030?
fluffypony: by the time we hit 2030
fluffypony: long-term I already know the price of Bitcoin
l337: I seem to know that already, it's the long-term value I am interested in
davout: there are a few addresses that have no associated name, a couple folks that lead to multiple google hits
los_pantalones: and are you bidding or just asked them a question ?
fluffypony: I wish that was in there :(
los_pantalones: don't think there were any bcc
los_pantalones: i think that was the full list
Naphex: anyone got the full bcc?
Naphex: anyone did any intel on the bidders yet?
Naphex: so there is a list of bidders
nubbins`: nanotube, first name on the list
punkman: why isn't the hashbang working, how do I linux?
punkman: there's some work to get to AMAZING
davout: the list is genuine
asciilifeform: 'Avarus, Inc. (we, us, our) was incorporated under the laws of the State of Delaware on September 20, 2010. The Company was originally organized as a blank check shell Company to investigate and acquire a target company or business seeking the perceived advantages of being a publicly held corporation.' << lol!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
los_pantalones: but if it comes AFTER the conviction
los_pantalones: ha, idk, i don't doubt they will try
fluffypony: Joe "The Plumber" Kazinsci will work his wrench magic on DPR
fluffypony: they don't have the keys (at least not that they've admitted to), but once they have them they can beat the keys out of him with a wrench
los_pantalones: fluffypony you understood that was the process or that the feds do not have the private keys
fluffypony: that's the way I understood it too
los_pantalones: but still only theoretically
asciilifeform: los_pantalones: dpr might be sitting on a stake as we speak, coughing up the keys
los_pantalones: does anyone know if the us govt has control the private keys on the silk road wallets ?
davout: how does this guy get resolved if the auction is kept private? --> http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/
benkay: <mircea_popescu> incidentally, what's the us black slang to denote a woman in her 20s that spends her life naked in the household of some local lord / trap star ? // video ho in the rap industry
asciilifeform: mthreat: the bnd thing is old hat.
mthreat: asciilifeform: that nsa-spiegel-snowden PDF is pretty interesting. It seems like Germany is basically part of the "five eyes" countries, which would make it "six eyes"
asciilifeform: punkman: snippets from the new spiegel collection
asciilifeform: there are still state-level trademarks, afaik
asciilifeform: as i understand, not quite stolen yet - just some of the bolts holding it down removed.
chetty: goes so nice with theft of redskins trademark
chetty thinks MP has been reading tea leaves again// "- I suppose youve never learned of the law that protects peoples rights and propety
"
asciilifeform: all the good bits carefully censored out.
punkman: 9393 was only the winners' input btw
asciilifeform: oh sure they did
mircea_popescu: i wasn't watching at the time, but did ayone in the early 90s/late 80s say hey, lenin's nep previewed what'll happen here ?
asciilifeform: result was a miniature preview of the 'roaring '90s'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and even so soviet tax collection was better than the tsar's.
mircea_popescu: so it's really a blind alley : those on whom it'd work are probably the same set that think "bitcoin is bad" or w/e
asciilifeform: burn a registered company and walk away and start a new one << interesting historical degenerate case: russia during lenin's 'NEP' - 20s - folks would close a firm immediately prior to tax day, open new one the day after with same assets
mircea_popescu: if you do, you can. if you're random joe blow you can not, but then again this stuff is not for you anyway,
fluffypony: "I can show business registration papers so therefore"
fluffypony: I agree with that - it was more to show that personal liability is always an option on the fiat side (reckless trading etc.), so this idea that you can burn a registered company and walk away and start a new one is also flawed
mircea_popescu: why, specifically because the fiat method does not work.
mircea_popescu: why did "bill" and everyone else involved seem to think that once the 10mn is wired, that's it, the fraudster won ?
mircea_popescu: consider the earlier case described by altucher.
mircea_popescu: what i mean is specifically this : that the construction of recourse and remedy on the infrastructure of fiat is not going to work.
fluffypony: and then almost as an afterthought "ohey, fundraising is in Bitcoin and so are dividend payments"
mircea_popescu: anyway, imo the fiat approach is naive.
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fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I still use DCE when drawing up an MoU for a freelancer in another country
punkman: it will be in the app
mircea_popescu: o look, south africa actually uses the ancient dce concept. nao i don't need to fumble trying to explain to people what domicile means anymoar! just reference south african law!
punkman: Fun fact: out of 10310 bitbets, only 313 have lost money betting on the winning side, and only 100 of those had a weight of 10k
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/dattank-mining-any-chip-any-hardware-any-currency.330080/page-4#post-7067314 << is this guy actually using the dot to represent scalars (ie, as opposed to vectors) or wtf notation is that
nubbins`: unlike a barber shop, where you can come in the next day for a free tune-up if you don't like what they've done
nubbins`: and then i can't even fix it because i throw out all my scissors and clippers when i'm done :(
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nubbins`: Naphex: i don't pay someone else to cut my hair for the same reason i don't pay someone else to cook my food
nubbins`: mp, i think that's not the first time you've called me that
chetty: we are on to hair cuts? what happened to the fingernail polish, ladies?
asciilifeform: i know plenty of people who cut their own hair.
punkman: and they use too much of it too
punkman: my biggest problem is the shitty shampoo everyone has
punkman: Naphex, I cut them myself last couple of times, with a little help from the girl, since the barber is not around
nubbins`: why would anyone do anything for themselves?
Naphex: nubbins`: why would somebody cut their own hair?
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fluffypony: if someone gets the source code working I'll gladly throw it on a box
fluffypony: here's the source
pankkake: but yes that requires knowning about the nodes
fluffypony: they're dynamic with a low TTL
mike_c: they don't appear to be returning anything
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: what do you think about creating seeds.therealaltcoin.org with node seeds.
bitcoinpete: they're basically driving a kia across north america to "raise awareness"
bitcoinpete: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-roadshow-swag-special-car-giveaway-in-trek-america/ << these guys are from our local meet-up
bitcoinpete: i suppose you want the cake now too?
bitcoinpete: lol just 25 minutes late to the party
pankkake: the worst is job names. some can be gendered, some not, and even the French don't know what to do of them
nubbins`: "they" generally works but would sound odd in a group setting
pankkake: nubbins`: French would drive them mad
chetty: re:redskins decision// que the counterfeit everything, trademarks just became a joke
nubbins`: thestringpuller: sorry, was waiting a couple days to see if more orders came in. shirt's getting printed today. tracking is too costly, most people opt out
nubbins`: chetty: cue the "counterfeit" redskins jerseys / memorabilia
thestringpuller: nubbins`: do you have a tracking number for the shirt btw?
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ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> incidentally, what's the us black slang to denote a woman in her 20s that spends her life naked in the household of some local lord / trap star ? /// gold digger, groupie, slut -- i'm not sure proper word exists, not that this is even a common thing
ThickAsThieves: [04:54] <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves so is atc taking over the ltc role ? /// well it *should* take over the role of all other coins of no distinction
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Naphex: watch the video:P
Naphex: they want it recognized like baitcoin
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cazalla: i actually played with a pro, he got dumped from the aussie team this world cup though
Naphex: cazalla: the trick to being pro is getting paid to play :)
cazalla: that's a memory i have too.. i use to play soccer, cherished the ribbons and trophies, figured out you could buy yourself the biggest and engrave anything for doing nothing killed the motivation to play
BingoBoingo: I think one of the most important moments of my development was when as a child I learned the trophie store is an actual place
BingoBoingo: http://www.collegehumor.com/post/6973365/i-cant-believe-they-made-trophies-for-these-things
thestringpuller: can you reach atc.pitythepool.com
thestringpuller: what hppened to pity the pool?
BingoBoingo: I do this pretty much as I mention in the statements. It's a thing... I do it. I'll offer a range of more than most actual work the lowest performing civil servants do, but still less than nubbins` when he is in extreme focused art mode. (I estimate that to be between 0 and all of the hours in a week)
BingoBoingo: Naphex: I'm trading by hand so any moves into fiat occur only when I'm awake and ready to put in a lower bid very soon after fulfillment. << As this in in the chan it is an official disclosure. Nao.. Good luck figuring out my sleep wake cycle... if there is a discernable one.
BingoBoingo: I inhere the properties of cautions
BingoBoingo: Naphex: It depends on how the book looks. I'll prolly announce the June or July statement if I've moved into that pairing or not, pending consultation with the general manager. I'll watch at for least weeks, emphasis plural, before making a decision.
punkman: now it tells me when I've already bet on a proposition and calculates the total along with hypothetical bets. Handy for topping up a bet
ansc: interesting that the odds are so much in favor of btc with brk/a trading @189k
punkman: this curses stuff is enough to make me curse, but it's getting there: http://i.imgur.com/Jj0xIdi.png
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Douches are good, they are a force for cleansing
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Sure, at the time, but noa his is busy with OMG acquisitions!!! in his most recent messages.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is indeed astounding how the bad habits of both groups align this way
ansc: ok anyway, it's about the fed imposing exit fees on bond funds.
mircea_popescu: on one hand, the slipped up theory is convincing. on the other hand, the sort of scammer/internet fraudster depicted often tries to run a hosting business on the side
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for what it's worth the dilemma is irreducible.
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mircea_popescu: anarkitty. hey, this creates a new usecase for gribble. leave a note for osmeone, remember their name.
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